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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #50 on: October 12, 2015, 01:57:02 PM »
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This guy played the "Agents of Change" game, the game that Schools Require you to do before you can enroll in classes.

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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #51 on: October 12, 2015, 03:53:01 PM »
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-12/congress-axes-a-lifeline-for-small-colleges

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The demise of a long-standing college loan program will hit the bottom line at small colleges and standalone law schools especially hard, a new report shows.
The Perkins Loan program, the U.S. government’s oldest student aid program, expired two weeks ago, leaving small schools that depend on tuition without a lifeline. Expect “greater pressure on university financial aid budgets and enrollment volatility” at those institutions, said the report, published on Thursday by Moody's, the credit rating agency.
Senator Lamar Alexander, a Republican from Tennessee, said the Perkins Loan Program, launched in 1958, was “outdated and unnecessary” and refused to allow the Senate to vote on an extension of the program. Perkins loans were disbursed based on a complicated formula that included the level of student need and how much money a school had historically received through the program. The student need level, however, had been calculated partly based on tuition, so schools that charge their students a lot tended to benefit more from the program, said Ben Miller, an education expert at the Center for American Progress.
“Everything about the formula and its distribution was designed to give lots of money to schools that do not need it as much,” Miller said. “The program desperately needed a new formula to make it more equitable.”
The loans only accounted for $1.2 billion of the $150 billion in aid the government doles out to colleges annually. But Moody’s says the aid supported a significant chunk of low-income students, who may not have gone to the schools without the extra funds. For small, private colleges that are already having trouble keeping their dorm rooms filled, the loss will be particularly acute.
“Impact on enrollment will be most significant for small private liberal arts colleges,” Moody’s wrote. At Earlham College, in Richmond, Ind., 41 percent of full-time students depend on Perkins loans, the report said. A third of students take out the loans at Wheaton College in Massachusetts.
Some law schools are also staring down scary numbers. At the University of California, Hastings College of the Law, for example, 7 percent of revenue comes from Perkins loans — but 80 percent of students rely on them.

Is this the first domino?

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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #52 on: October 12, 2015, 09:03:51 PM »
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fap fap fap

Private LAS colleges are pozzed out shitholes. 

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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #53 on: October 13, 2015, 12:08:49 AM »
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fap fap fap

Private LAS colleges are pozzed out shitholes.

Mine wasn't noticeably pozzed when I started at it, but over the last year it's pulled a fuckin 180 and it is insane. Here's one of this years new hires:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420643/whiteness-terror-professor-hired-rhodes-college

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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #54 on: October 13, 2015, 07:33:37 AM »
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Burn down the banks and the rest will fall into place.

Although a noble goal, the banks aren't the root of the problem.  The federal guarantee on student loans is what incentivizes banks to give out a quarter of a million dollars to seventeen year olds.  [/url]

They haven't provided federally backed loans serviced by private companies since 2010. Undergraduates can't get any more than $31,000 total unless they are over 24, married, or orphaned.

Nowadays, the heavy debt loads you here about are either parents (they can get federal loans with much high limits), or law/med school. Perhaps a 17 year old can co-sign a private loan with their parents, but they can't get $50,000 a year on their own.

Need-based financial aid is the bigger problem.


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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #55 on: October 13, 2015, 10:56:11 AM »
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Student Wrongfully Expelled for Rape Triumphs in Court: Due Process Beats 'Yes Means Yes'

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A judge overturned the expulsion of Corey Mock—a University of Tennessee at Chattanooga student and star wrestler—after determining that UTC’s administration had improperly required Mock to prove that he was innocent of sexually assaulting another student.

The decision is a significant blow to the concept of affirmative consent. According to Judge Carol McCoy, UTC’s consent standard wrongfully shifted the burden of proof and violated Mock’s due process rights.

Mock’s expulsion stemmed from a sexual encounter with a fellow student, Molly Morris, during the spring of 2014. Morris and Mock had met online and quickly become friends; they hung out on several occasions and decided to attend a house party together. Morris had too much to drink—someone might have slipped her something, though no evidence established this—and went to the bathroom to be sick. Mock found her, took her to a bedroom, and they had sex.

A week after the incident, Morris told Mock that she had not given consent. Three months later, she formally accused him of raping her.

The campus judicial process initially cleared Mock, but UTC Chancellor Steven Angle took an interest in the case after meeting with Morris. Angle asked the campus adjudicators to re-hear the case. This time, Mock was found guilty.

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Earlier this week, Judge Carol McCoy recognized the fundamental unfairness of Mock’s situation and agreed with him that UTC had established an impossible standard. According to her ruling:

    The UTC Chancellor improperly shifted the burden of proof and imposed an untenable standard upon Mr. Mock to disprove the accusation that he forcibly assaulted Ms. Morris. He made no finding that Ms. Morris did not consent, intertwined the definition in SOC 7 of sexual assault and sexual misconduct, and made no distinction as to which acts had occurred.

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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #56 on: October 13, 2015, 12:29:29 PM »
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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #57 on: October 13, 2015, 09:00:33 PM »
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the one exception was a case where the police officer accidentally let it slip that this wasn't the first time this kid was in trouble for sex assault. it came up after i asked him what his opinion was on the case and he said "Well my first impression was, 'Oh, it's he's at it again'"

You're among friends so be honest:
Its because the accused was black, wasn't it?
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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #58 on: October 13, 2015, 10:21:39 PM »
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no that was back before i turned into a hitler, but yes he was black. his accuser was also.

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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #59 on: October 13, 2015, 10:28:51 PM »
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Catfish misses the point that with no information other than "repeated run-ins with the law for sexual assault" I was able to determine that he was black.

no that was back before i turned into a hitler, but yes he was black. his accuser was also.

That nigga had sex with a black woman, I'd say that was punishment enough.
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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #60 on: October 13, 2015, 10:37:51 PM »
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nice but i bet you can't guess his major!

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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #61 on: October 13, 2015, 11:25:45 PM »
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nice but i bet you can't guess his major!

Oooh, a fun game!  I guess Communications or Sports Medicine, favorites of athletic scholarship recipients everywhere.

Side story: When I was in orientation, there was an English major basketball-american (on a full ride, naturally) assigned to my group who chimped out while we were playing Green Glass Door.  In Green Glass Door, you list words that had double adjacent letters (examples: chess, cherry, nigger, etc).  The trigger?  Pushback at the play of "sleeves" because "there's no doubles."  When pressed for his spelling, he provided "sleaves."

No matter the major, every black leaves with a minor conviction!

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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #62 on: October 13, 2015, 11:28:47 PM »
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nice but i bet you can't guess his major!

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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #63 on: October 14, 2015, 12:48:18 AM »
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major was football (undeclared major),so yeah right on essentially.

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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #64 on: October 14, 2015, 12:32:45 PM »
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-14/obama-administration-hits-back-at-student-debtors-seeking-relief

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On a day when Democratic presidential candidates sparred in a national debate over who would do more to help indebted students, the U.S. government launched a new attack on student debtors seeking loan relief.
On Tuesday, the Department of Education intervened in the case of Robert Murphy, an unemployed 65-year-old who has waged a three-year legal battle to erase his student loans in bankruptcy.

Unlike almost every single form of consumer debt, student loans can be erased only in very rare circumstances. Murphy’s case, which is currently being heard in a federal court in Boston, could make things a little easier for certain borrowers. A win for Murphy would relieve him of $246,500 in debt and could loosen the standard used to determine how desperate someone needs to be to qualify for relief.

The court asked the Education Department to weigh in on the matter. In a document submitted to the court on Tuesday, government lawyers urged the federal judges not to cede any ground to borrowers who say they are in dire financial straits. Doing so would imperil “the fiscal stability of the loan program” that has existed for half a century. The Department of Education did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Murphy doesn’t deserve a break just because he is 65 years old, department lawyers wrote. Repaying his debt loan may require “that he remain employed at or past normal retirement age,” they said, even though “his income may top out or decrease” and “further employment opportunities may be limited.”
“That is part of the bargain that parents strike when they take out loans later in their work life,” the lawyers added. Murphy took out several loans to send his three children to college, but he lost his job at a manufacturing company in 2002 and has not been able to find work since.

No student debtor should get a break on student loans unless they can show a “certainty of hopelessness,” said the government’s lawyers. “[A] debtor must specifically prove a total incapacity in the future to repay the debt for reasons not within his control,” they added. The lawyers said that the point of keeping such a stringent standard is to ensure “that bankruptcy does not become a convenient and expedient means of extinguishing student loan debt.”
The Education Department is seasoned at waging this particular battle. For over a decade, the department, through its lawyers, has pushed the courts to adopt the harshest standards possible when considering pleas from bankrupt students.

“The general purpose of the Bankruptcy Code to give honest debtors a fresh start does not automatically apply to student loan debtors,” the government’s lawyers wrote.

Filing for bankruptcy ordinarily allows debtors to wipe out what they owe in exchange for marred credit for up to 10 years. In the 1970s, Congress made student loans unique. To get a reprieve on education debt, federal law requires proof that repaying it would impose an “undue hardship.”
Lawmakers have never defined undue hardship, though, so courts have tried to work out exactly how poor Americans need to be—and for how long—in order to qualify for student loan forgiveness.

The Department of Education has been successful at convincing judges to make that threshold incredibly high. A borrower now has to show that making payments on a loan would “strip himself of all that makes life worth living,” according to one court. Lawyers rifle through debtors’ daily expenses to determine whether they will be able to maintain a “minimal standard of living” if they are required to repay student loans. Attorneys arguing on behalf of the Education Department have called such things as retirement account contributions, fast-food dinners, cell-phone plans, and nutritional supplements “luxury expenses.” 

The government argues that such scrutiny of a borrower’s financial life is crucial for “protecting the solvency of the student loan program.” Consumer advocates say the Education Department’s fears are exaggerated because most debt that could be discharged in bankruptcy is not collectable if bankrupt borrowers can't pay it back.

Murphy calculated that even if he were to find a job paying $50,000 per year and then work until he turns 77, his student debt would nonetheless balloon to $500,000.

The administration must have realized that it would all come crashing down.

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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #65 on: October 14, 2015, 01:15:27 PM »
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Murphy took out several loans to send his three children to college, but he lost his job at a manufacturing company in 2002 and has not been able to find work since.

That guy's a bad case because he chose to remain unemployed--and let interest on the loan accrue--for the last thirteen years.

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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #66 on: October 14, 2015, 03:26:13 PM »
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Murphy took out several loans to send his three children to college, but he lost his job at a manufacturing company in 2002 and has not been able to find work since.

That guy's a bad case because he chose to remain unemployed--and let interest on the loan accrue--for the last thirteen years.

Seriously if he had lost his job in 08/09 that's a bit easier to understand, but how do you remain unemployed since 2002?

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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #67 on: October 14, 2015, 06:02:44 PM »
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Murphy took out several loans to send his three children to college, but he lost his job at a manufacturing company in 2002 and has not been able to find work since.

That guy's a bad case because he chose to remain unemployed--and let interest on the loan accrue--for the last thirteen years.

Seriously if he had lost his job in 08/09 that's a bit easier to understand, but how do you remain unemployed since 2002?

To be fair, the last loan he got was in 2007, at which point he'd already been unemployed for five years. The lender should absolutely face the financial consequences of making bad loans like that.

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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #68 on: October 22, 2015, 01:12:03 PM »
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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #69 on: October 22, 2015, 03:56:16 PM »
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As the old saying goes: when in Rome, don't appropriate Roman culture.

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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #70 on: October 26, 2015, 10:38:57 AM »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sxttk5REkM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sxttk5REkM</a>

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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #71 on: October 26, 2015, 10:29:04 PM »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sxttk5REkM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sxttk5REkM</a>

It's shit like this that causes the "Cathedral" conspiracy theory. Absolutely disgusting.
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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #72 on: October 27, 2015, 10:16:21 AM »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sxttk5REkM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sxttk5REkM</a>

It's shit like this that causes the "Cathedral" conspiracy theory. Absolutely disgusting.

Cathedral "conspiracy theory"

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« Reply #73 on: October 27, 2015, 11:13:09 PM »
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sxttk5REkM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sxttk5REkM</a>

It's shit like this that causes the "Cathedral" conspiracy theory. Absolutely disgusting.

Cathedral "conspiracy theory"

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Re: American Universities, Spreading the Poz one student at a time
« Reply #74 on: October 28, 2015, 03:57:15 PM »
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