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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #2000 on: November 18, 2017, 03:29:04 PM »
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I don't mind non-white protagonists. Just as long as they're fucking interesting or not just shoehorned in as a fuck you whitey. Non whites exist, some of them have lives I couldn't imagine whether fictional or real, tell their story, just make sure you don't leave out the fact that your game is literally there to entertain me.

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #2001 on: November 18, 2017, 04:23:27 PM »
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A modern Thief reboot would be swell, but they'd probably turn Garret into an afroed arrogant marry sue female black thief from the ghetto named Shaniqwa, and on the first mission you see Hwhite Hammerite templars harass and execute an innocent black bystander for fun. The goal of the game would be to break into as many priviledged YT mansions as possible, assasinating caricatures of  evil capitalist white patriarchs and liberating their wealth to the ghetto, culminating in you leading the Revolution and instoring true Social Justice.

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #2002 on: November 18, 2017, 05:11:30 PM »
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>Wolfenstein is high-brow political criticism
>But Wolfenstein is also really just a silly Nazi exploitation series

To be fair you have to have a really high IQ to fully appreciate the subtlety and nuance of "punch a nazi" The message of that game was literally "nazis are bad" (also brown people are good) but game journos are acting like this is info straight from the mouth of God. Also regarding that black bitch in wolfenstein whoever said she had a chip on her shoulder about hating wypipo called it, one of the first thing she says is that when the Nazi's came to America all the whiteys bowed down to their new masters, leaving woke black people and that one white cuck she has for a bf (the guy literally acts like one, he's like a young bernie sanders) left to defend America because you know whites are just awful at war, we can't stomach it, I mean according to that Battlefield 1 game the first world war was fought by blacks and muslim women. Not only does she act like a complete bitch and is somehow put in charge of everything she also keeps shit talking the one character in that game that doesn't suck. I'm assuming they were trying to do a little funny back and forth between them but it just comes out like she wants to scream RAYCIS for anyone daring to contradict the sentient afro. Its pretty crazy how unappealing they made her, I'm not even saying that in the lol niggerdeath race war now kind of way either, she alone makes up so much of the poz in that game its unreal, so of course she's the one in charge and the one who usually communicates to you to the point BJ actually screams at the enemies for being "white-ass Nazis!" I guess forgetting he himself is white, he might be trans black or something, they're probably saving that reveal for the DLC.

Edit: Also I just remembered that quote where he screams at the evil white nazis had the white part taken out for trailers of the game, like they used the part where he said it but edited it out, almost like they knew people would have reacted badly to it.
Edit part 2: while on the subject of non white playable characters the black dude in assassins kangz is really not that bad, not good mind you, but he isn't offensively shoving Egyptian style BLM messages at the player, he's just really bland which is another big problem (if not the biggest) when people decide to make a MC who isn't white is that they can't have them be interesting or have flaws because that'd racist, only white people are allowed to be interesting apparently because if you make a fictional black guy an alcoholic for example clearly you are saying ALL black people have that same exact problem. So all of these forgettable characters are the fault of the same people who screamed for them to be in games and movies to begin with.
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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #2003 on: November 18, 2017, 05:26:13 PM »
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I don't mind non-white protagonists. Just as long as they're fucking interesting or not just shoehorned in as a fuck you whitey. Non whites exist, some of them have lives I couldn't imagine whether fictional or real, tell their story, just make sure you don't leave out the fact that your game is literally there to entertain me.

The delightful irony is that the whole thing where they shoehorn in Strong Black Womyn is racist in and of itself, considering how bland and samey they are. You can't have one that's designed to be laughed at or presented as a villain, because of some unspoken rule where non-whites are perpetually treated like two-dimensional puppets.  You know what's a real white privilege?  To be seen by lefties as an individual who can have their own opinions, styles, etc; as opposed to being black where you either like the Approved List of Negro Interests, such as:

* Obama
* rap
* Oprah
* Fat white women
* The Hood™
* Black Lives Matter

Or else, you become persona non grata for daring not to be a stereotype. Thinking for yourself?  Questioning what you hear?  That's not very black.  Put on your shackles and get back to work, nigger.

Of course, trying to point this out to anyone who clearly thinks this way will just get you called a racist amidst a whole bunch of screeching.  And now we're seeing modern blaxploitation in gaming, and it's leading to very boring, predictable writing from hate-filled miserable assholes, who spend their lives trying to one-up one another in their virtue signaling game. It doesn't even matter if the game flops, just call everyone who didn't buy it a racist! Win-win, since now you have a fuzzy logic way of proving that everyone is racist, and you are the Duke of Virtue Signaling, now that you've ~proven~ just how racist gamers are.  Nevermind the quality of your game, that doesn't matter.  Character development?  Trying to make a likeable protagonist?  Just stick a nappy-headed nigger in there and call it a day, they're all fundamentally the same person anyway.  God forbid we use any nuance and unique traits to flesh out the character, daring to wander beyond the approved stereotype might be.... racist (somehow).

Speaking of which, Telltale's The Walking Dead had a great black protagonist, and nobody cared about his race.  Of course, that was before Clown World started, so it was more acceptable for him to be a deeply flawed, complex person.  His name was Lee, he was a convict on his way to prison for killing a man who he caught having sex with his wife, while he was otherwise a history teacher in Georgia, and makes friends with a white trash Floridian who has a Russian wife.  No overtones of racism, no making fun of anyone and trying to wedge them into stereotypical roles.  That kind of game just would not happen these days.

By the way, how many black game developers are there, anyway?  Seems like every beta cuck we hear about is white or Jewish.  Has there ever been a single celebrated game where the head designer was black?  At all?  Anything beyond RPG Maker quality?  I'm into gaming enough to be able to name several Japanese composers and even I can't think of a single one.
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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #2004 on: November 18, 2017, 05:52:18 PM »
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The guy who invented the video game cartridge was black. That's about it as far as contributions go.
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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #2005 on: November 18, 2017, 05:52:39 PM »
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There have been plenty of games with non-white protagonists. The crying about a "problem" with dearth of sufficiently progressive games has always been more about inserting their ideology in vidya, not black people or women or any of the victim groups they hold up as sanctified. When it's basically a copy paste "woke strong black womyn" it's clear it's about sending a message and narrative, not representation.

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #2006 on: November 18, 2017, 06:02:34 PM »
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I saw "To be fair you have to have a really high IQ to fully appreciate the subtlety and nuance of "punch a nazi"" and immediately skipped your entire post thinking it was copypasta, but I have been fooled.

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #2007 on: November 18, 2017, 06:44:02 PM »
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I don't mind non-white protagonists. Just as long as they're fucking interesting or not just shoehorned in as a fuck you whitey. Non whites exist, some of them have lives I couldn't imagine whether fictional or real, tell their story, just make sure you don't leave out the fact that your game is literally there to entertain me.

I didn't, but as a result of the constant messaging about how WHITES ARE TERRIBLE and BROWNS ARE GREAT I have grown sick even of hypothetically well written non-white characters as a concept.
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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #2008 on: November 18, 2017, 09:10:34 PM »
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I don't mind non-white protagonists. Just as long as they're fucking interesting or not just shoehorned in as a fuck you whitey. Non whites exist, some of them have lives I couldn't imagine whether fictional or real, tell their story, just make sure you don't leave out the fact that your game is literally there to entertain me.

I didn't, but as a result of the constant messaging about how WHITES ARE TERRIBLE and BROWNS ARE GREAT I have grown sick even of hypothetically well written non-white characters as a concept.

If (( (they) )) didn't harp on how great and progressive it is every time a white man is not a main lead on something, seeing wimmenz and PEE OH CEEs as leads wouldn't annoy me as much. But as soon as I hear that something is going to have a minority lead, I automatically assume it's being done for virtue signaling.

Edit: Fixed typo
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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #2009 on: November 18, 2017, 09:24:56 PM »
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If there are no strong women of color in videogames

there will be no strong women of color cosplaying at game conventions

truly an outrage

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #2010 on: November 18, 2017, 10:18:29 PM »
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Don't forget, they are also trying to push the idea of troon characters in all mediums, in all roles. So like, not just troon main characters, but troon sidekicks, love interests, side characters, as if they were just as common as iced tea or whatever. Imagine a movie or vidja or whatever where two hard bitten detectives are at a diner booth talking about a grisly murder and some six-foot-four "waitress" with stubble, high heels, a wig, and a gruff voice comes by and goes "MORE COFFEE, HON?" sounding like Peter Falk, and its never addressed because that is the clown world we live in.

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #2011 on: November 18, 2017, 10:30:34 PM »
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Atlus is working with Sega's team who did Skies of Arcadia and Valkyria Chronicles. They're making a new Sequel to VC and it's got land battles and ship to ship battles. What people know sofar is that it's coming to consoles and is not a mobile game, the previous VC and the Revolution games have been erased from continuity and this takes place right after the original. The Setting is still world war II but now there are things like submersible aircraft carriers, even bigger tanks, and a bunch of secret weapons over normandy type of shit.

Sofar the thing that can't be confirmed is if there will be dog fights because there's a bunch of pilots but no plane art has leaked.

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #2012 on: November 18, 2017, 10:37:44 PM »
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Don't forget, they are also trying to push the idea of troon characters in all mediums, in all roles. So like, not just troon main characters, but troon sidekicks, love interests, side characters, as if they were just as common as iced tea or whatever. Imagine a movie or vidja or whatever where two hard bitten detectives are at a diner booth talking about a grisly murder and some six-foot-four "waitress" with stubble, high heels, a wig, and a gruff voice comes by and goes "MORE COFFEE, HON?" sounding like Peter Falk, and its never addressed because that is the clown world we live in.

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #2013 on: November 18, 2017, 10:56:47 PM »
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Don't forget, they are also trying to push the idea of troon characters in all mediums, in all roles. So like, not just troon main characters, but troon sidekicks, love interests, side characters, as if they were just as common as iced tea or whatever. Imagine a movie or vidja or whatever where two hard bitten detectives are at a diner booth talking about a grisly murder and some six-foot-four "waitress" with stubble, high heels, a wig, and a gruff voice comes by and goes "MORE COFFEE, HON?" sounding like Peter Falk, and its never addressed because that is the clown world we live in.

Yup.  The logic they want to instill on everyone is that if you're a white man, you're awful no matter what, and the only way to redeem yourself is by becoming a tranny.  Much like turning gay 15 years ago, going full on tranny is the new way to redeem yourself for your ~sinful whiteness~.  Of course, this only applies to white men.  White women and men of other races are excluded.

Get rid of the men of a society, and they'll be trivial to take over.  The problem is, American men outside of liberal strongholds are much more headstrong than the rest of the West, and can't just be gaslighted and belittled into becoming complete cucks.  There are some headstrong men in other nations, but just not enough to stand up against the tyrants.

It's fun to know that my sheer existence is considered offensive.  I've lost plenty of friends for not joining in on the hyperbole and panic, and speaking my mind honestly and openly.  I'm really not afraid to, that's how I attract better people into my life and repel those who don't deserve to have me call them a friend. 

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #2014 on: November 18, 2017, 11:58:28 PM »
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Just finished Wolf2...the gameplay was great, but the characters were annoying as fuck. The fat woman, the black woman, the faggot, the hipster...ufff
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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #2015 on: Today at 10:54:52 AM »
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The guy who invented the video game cartridge was black. That's about it as far as contributions go.

I thought Ralph Baer invented the cartridge, he wasn't black but he was a parentheses-parentheses-parentheses.


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The biggest issue here is that every single one of these Bethesda games are well made and the exact kinds of games many people claim they want when the complain about live-services that rely on loot boxes and microtransactions. Prey and Dishonored 2 are some of the best immersive-sim action adventures ever made, and I think Wolfenstein 2 is the most impressive work of political criticism so far in 2017. The Evil Within 2 has even won over a lot of fans. But for some reason, they just aren’t finding blockbuster-sized audiences.
Therefore all single player games are not selling well and the real future is a gorillion microtransactions because none of you bought every single single player game available and you gamers are hypocrites who don't know what you want and need an educated person with a degree to tell you what you want.

And you gotta realize how inept and pozzed these "educated" people with degrees are.  If you watched the video I posted earlier ITT, Sam talks about going to the Rhode Island School of Design, which is this elite, top tier art school, and the quality of work from Sam's peers was the most basic bitch, Deviantart, Sonic with a big dick, wolf in a karate outfit holding a bo staff shit.  Imagine spending $50k a year to learn how to draw Sonic with a big dick.

Anyways, Sam went to a Job Fair and the game company recruiters were saying shit like "Imagine if you have this badass warrior, but the warrior is a little girl".  And that was a decade ago.  Just think what they're saying now.

"Imagine you have this badass Viking warrior woman, but she's black.  And she has a penis!"


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« Reply #2017 on: Today at 02:20:12 PM »
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Thematically the badass viking warrior girl would not center herself before a fight because that's more of an asian thing and would not thematically work with the character who's already a joke character as is. Berserkers just tend to erupt into a rage and to have a little girl do something like that would be funny, because little girls in reality are not that strong.

Dan Hibiki is a joke character where that would work because spending a ton of effort before the fight like centering yourself only to get zero returns on all that effort is what makes his character funny. It also fits the theme of martial arts where fighting is heavily structured so you do preparation work where as berserkers are not.
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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #2020 on: Today at 09:55:50 PM »
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Thematically the badass viking warrior girl would not center herself before a fight because that's more of an asian thing and would not thematically work with the character who's already a joke character as is. Berserkers just tend to erupt into a rage and to have a little girl do something like that would be funny, because little girls in reality are not that strong.


The point Sam was trying to get across is that the "badass warrior little girl" is the most trite, cliche way a writer can write an unconventional character.  These creatives spent $200k+ on their artfag degree and that was the best they could come up with.

If these people want to make something unconventional,  why not write an intelligent, engrossing story with interesting, relateable characters?


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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #2021 on: Today at 10:20:54 PM »
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Thematically the badass viking warrior girl would not center herself before a fight because that's more of an asian thing and would not thematically work with the character who's already a joke character as is. Berserkers just tend to erupt into a rage and to have a little girl do something like that would be funny, because little girls in reality are not that strong.


The point Sam was trying to get across is that the "badass warrior little girl" is the most trite, cliche way a writer can write an unconventional character.  These creatives spent $200k+ on their artfag degree and that was the best they could come up with.

If these people want to make something unconventional,  why not write an intelligent, engrossing story with interesting, relateable characters?
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