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Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« on: July 05, 2014, 08:34:39 AM »
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I've posted a number of miscellaneous things about A/T stuff in other threads but the poz overflow is getting too much to ignore.  Ask/Tell in 2014 is basically the exercise of injecting social justice into everything: ancient greek history, porn, Siberia, anything.

I was inspired to kick off the thread when I saw that darkpriest/Kevin Moore's porn thread turned into yet another suppurating social justice shitfest.  I've been at SA to see two iterations of the thread: an earlier one that focused more on porn and the current one that is focused on social justice, mostly gays, women, and trannies.  The last thread would at least make attempts to ask questions about the day in the life of a porn shoot, asked about chicks who disappeared from the porn scene, etc.  They're not interested in that, they're wondering what the porn industry is doing to make things more accommodating for troons and lesbians.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3628293

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What's your critical opinion of the style propagated by X-Art, Passion HD, and the like? Is it your cup of tea? Do you think they'd ever shoot a girl who's black or a darker shade of tan?

Why doesn't this porn site I probably jerk off to a thousand times not film black chicks?  What's up with that?

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Also, why does the porn industry still use offensive terms like "tranny" and "shemale"?

 :parsons: "When there are hilariously racist stereotypes in most interracial porn and most 'teen' porn is the most blatant pedo-bait, I can't believe some Un-PC terms (That a lot of people don't even know are slurs) would shock or surprise you."

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Darkpriest, can you talk a little about how race and stereotypes get handled in porn.

Like, what is it like asking some girl to call a guy who she might not even know a racial epithet during sex. Is there an easy ice breaker when you're directing someone to do that? Is that part of someone contract? Like, "Pay me x amount for anal, x amount for ATM, and x amount for shouting the N-word at somebody."

How about Asian women. Have you ever seen someone get a little touchy when some hair dresser tries to put chopsticks in their bun for like the 11th time that week?

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Browsing through the nominations for the Feminist Porn Awards :nsfw: (mouseover the tab and dig for links) is a good way to discover woman-made or -oriented, lesbian, genderqueer, etc. porn producers. There's a lot more than people would expect.

I've been curious about Darkpriests opinion of it too, and whether feminist porn has any presence in the mainstream industry or if it is entirely separate, what effect it has, if any.

I know a number of male feminists online who won't jerk off to porn unless it's feminist approved porn.

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This is petty. Can't we just acknowledge that people are into stuff because we're all humans driven by the same emotions and impulses? The barriers to creating, disseminating, and consuming digital content have never been lower. Even if women aren't creating or consuming as much porn as men, they could be, and likely will be someday. Let's not pretend that the concept of porn is somehow inherently misogynist.

darkpriest largely avoids the SJW angle and tries to answer honestly but even he was taken aback by the social justice shit:

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This thread went into a slightly different direction.

I injured my right eye, scratching the cornea. This lead to a bad infection. To make matters worse the infection then spread to my other eye. I'm extremely photo sensitive. Soon as I am have healed more I will return to answering questions.

Hopefully thread can stay somewhat on target. Sorry for the delay.

Not to worry though, autistic stripper Luscious has decided to answer questions for him:

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Hairy (or "natural") is a huge fetish that is actually not over-saturated. I think the reason why more women in the industry don't do it (and why it remains fetish) is because "commercially preferred" standard is bald.

I would assume that women who are looking to see porn where the woman is legitimately enjoying herself are aware of the fact that shaving completely will not enhance pleasure. So yeah, I can see it being more of a thing in 'real' lesbian porn, even though there are still lesbians who want to see completely shaved.

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I have never met a woman who doesn't watch porn (or hasn't watched porn). HOWEVER. I think that women (who often deal with shitty sexual partners and are kinda trained to lie to preserve their partner's ego through faking) are more critical of porn and can see through the dramatization of it. Because of that, I think that most women will watch porn to get off but don't have the same desire to seek it out and use it for fantasies and instead turn to erotica and other kinds of ~mental stimulation~.

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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2014, 09:06:54 AM »
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They want Dark Priest to have an opinion because they assume a straight, white, natural male, sex haver like him must be a racist misogynist. So they want permission to turn him into a target. You can just see their little piggy eyes, like raisins mashed into uncooked dough, glittering with excitement in the unearthly glow of the monitor and their little fore trotters held at their wheezing, slobbering lips in ebullient anticipation that he might out himself. Each one trembles... nay, shakes with intoxicated elation, barely noticing the fresh urine spreading across their lap, hoping to be the first the burn the word into the monitor: BIGOT!!!
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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2014, 12:22:54 PM »
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I stopped reading that thread about a month ago when goons were dogpiling darkpriest for saying faggots in the porn industry are shunned upon due to fear of HIV/AIDS, which is the truth. Did I mention a straight guy like darkpriest/Kevin Moore in the industry probably doesn't want anything to do with gay porn at all to begin with in general? What a shock, you fucking goons.

Its a shame, because his threads used to be really interesting before 2008 at a time when the social justice crew wouldn't shit them all up.
 
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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2014, 12:54:42 PM »
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Goons are surprisingly conservative when it comes to porn when it's the only source of release for so many of them

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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2014, 12:59:56 PM »
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Goons are surprisingly conservative when it comes to porn when it's the only source of release for so many of them

I guess the porn they actually like is already illegal anyway, so they don't mind banning the rest to score points.

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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2014, 01:02:46 PM »
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Because of that, I think that most women will watch porn to get off but don't have the same desire to seek it out and use it for fantasies and instead turn to erotica and other kinds of ~mental stimulation~.

lol if anyone uses porn for anything more than a wank or a laugh.

double lol if you think erotica is some higher class and intellectual debauchery. Yeah I get it, it is male orientated but I've always thought porno scene setting and shit was usually fucked up. But I've seen snippets of 50 shades of grey and its just some rapey rich man fantasy. Are people so unimaginative they are into such trash?

Hahaha, I just looked through the plot of 50 Shades of Grey... woman has the hots for rich, powerful and arrogant successful man, turns out to be a goony controlling BDSM weirdo who doesn't like being touched (autism?) and can't deal with it. Even women's fantasies are the things feminists hate.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1Khvineq2Q" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1Khvineq2Q</a>
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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2014, 01:50:03 PM »
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The problem with porn and erotica as "art" is that most of the shit we say while fucking/attempting to get to fuck is corny as shit. It's gooshy, emotional, and usually only profound and meaningful to the people involved in the action. So any attempt to make it into art either means it's going to be unrealistically "romanticized" or just sound ridiculous.

I've meant everything I've said to every woman I've been with, but if you quoted me on a lot of it I'd be damn embarrassed.


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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2014, 02:35:37 PM »
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They want Dark Priest to have an opinion because they assume a straight, white, natural male, sex haver like him must be a racist misogynist. So they want permission to turn him into a target. You can just see their little piggy eyes, like raisins mashed into uncooked dough, glittering with excitement in the unearthly glow of the monitor and their little fore trotters held at their wheezing, slobbering lips in ebullient anticipation that he might out himself. Each one trembles... nay, shakes with intoxicated elation, barely noticing the fresh urine spreading across their lap, hoping to be the first the burn the word into the monitor: BIGOT!!!

it hurts me to upvote your posts most of the time, but art is art my friend.   :reagan:
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The only ones "subverting" the forum here are the swole cru/wn/alt rightards who, by their own admission, want to change this forum from what it was, was intended to be, and what the former and current owners want it to be.

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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2014, 03:10:20 PM »
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Hairy (or "natural") is a huge fetish that is actually not over-saturated. I think the reason why more women in the industry don't do it (and why it remains fetish) is because "commercially preferred" standard is bald.

I would assume that women who are looking to see porn where the woman is legitimately enjoying herself are aware of the fact that shaving completely will not enhance pleasure. So yeah, I can see it being more of a thing in 'real' lesbian porn, even though there are still lesbians who want to see completely shaved.

No one has caught crabs from a fully shaved pussy, and its easier to see if they are having a herpes outbreak. Also, pubes in teeth. Hth.
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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2014, 04:10:09 PM »
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i think trimming and/or shaving is more attractive for a number of reasons, including what Ghostse said, but it also shows that the person gives a shit about their body - for example, see the goony clump of hair that hasn't been cut or washed in months, versus a decent haircut and close shave.  Am I a pedophile or misogynist for expecting a women to wax her eyebrows or the hair on her lip?  No more than she is for expecting me to keep my beard a respectable length or my nose-hair under control.  When did basic, sanitary grooming habits become signs of the patriarchy?
This forum, like all iterations before it was started by a small group of people, many of whom have been posting together on various spinoffs going on 15 years now.

Dog's plans for the forum have been extensively discussed with 3 of the other 4 fagmins, via group PM, over a period of months.

The only ones "subverting" the forum here are the swole cru/wn/alt rightards who, by their own admission, want to change this forum from what it was, was intended to be, and what the former and current owners want it to be.

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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2014, 04:53:49 PM »
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Do you think porn is harmful in their portrayl of women? It usually puts them in submissive positions, even when that's not the focus of the film and has come under critisism for being littered with unintentional and intentional sexism. I just want equal rights in porn, is that too much to ask?


WHAT THE FUCK


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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2014, 05:31:57 PM »
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I stopped reading that thread about a month ago when goons were dogpiling darkpriest for saying faggots in the porn industry are shunned upon due to fear of HIV/AIDS, which is the truth. Did I mention a straight guy like darkpriest/Kevin Moore in the industry probably doesn't want anything to do with gay porn at all to begin with in general? What a shock, you fucking goons.

Its a shame, because his threads used to be really interesting before 2008 at a time when the social justice crew wouldn't shit them all up.
 
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That was a good one.  Here are the quotes:

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Porn featuring transsexuals seem to be quite popular these days. You have previously talked about how the straight and gay porn production worlds are almost totally separate; does the same go for the transsexual stuff?

 :lolno: :clint: :rock:

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Not as much. TS content is marketed to straight men. You have performers in the past who have done TS movies and also work with genetic women as well. This is controversial and the guys are often labeled "cross over" performers.

There has been a real backlash against males that perform in TS scenes. In many ways the TS genre is its own little micro industry. There was a period where it had really expanded and everyone was shooting it. Then it shrunk and many companies backed off from it.

In the last two years or so there has been a connection, whether real or made up, between the spread of HIV into the straight talent pool coming from the gay and TS talent pool. Due to that, there has been a backlash to the genre's intermixing.

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The only thing that could possibly effect a models future work are scenes that involve "cross over" work. For example if a female work with a transsexual or did a bisexual scene and the males were gay performers. Even then that doesn't really effect the female models. The male performers tend to be the ones who have their work affected the most by doing any sort of "cross over" scenes.

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What's with the LGBT hate?

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There has been a slight hysteria, whether it is real or imagined, that men engaged in homosexual activity could bring HIV into the straight pool of talent.

This is also fueled further by the fact the gay side of the industry does not test.

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There are lots of different opinions.

The majority of gay companies do use condoms, but there are some that don't.

The conversations I've had with people on that side of the industry is that many gay performers don't want to test. There is still stigmas with having HIV. They may not want to know or want others to know.

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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2014, 05:34:15 PM »
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Even in porn the fag demographic still has more HIV.

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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2014, 05:37:37 PM »
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Another A/T thread that got ruined is the ancient roman/greek thread.  It ebbs and flows in terms of social justice.  It's gone away for a little bit but it flares up and is probably due for it any time now.  Still, there is a recent post:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3486446&userid=72274#post431711213

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I just want to say this is the absolute best thread on the forums. I love the Antiquity period, especially Roman stuff, so bravo for this.

Going back to the discussion from a few pages ago, I think if I were to go back in time and attempt to introduce modern ideas to people of ancient times, I'd be tossed into a pit or executed. They would think I was crazy, a foreign saboteur bringing ideas against the Empire, or simply making shit up. Modern maps wouldn't make a lick of sense. The common person, at least in the US, is dumber than fuck and wouldn't bring anything of note to the Romans. You could certainly introduce modern IDEAS, but practical application of things like advanced chemistry and industrial processes would probably be near impossible due to material limitations or the common person simply not knowing how to execute concepts.

I can't imagine what kind of utter havoc would be caused by the equivalent of Kenny Powers being transported back in time and having to explain to Caesar that his namesake would become a shit pizza chain. Or even what pizza is.

Then again, introducing sports could probably go real well. Smacking a leather ball with a stick is very simple to understand. You could form the first Roman Baseball League. Then you could debate saber-metrics with Hypatia or the importance of smallball with Cicero.

Someone get me a fucking time machine.

So this retard, apropos of nothing, trashes the US. 

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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2014, 06:46:39 PM »
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Do you think porn is harmful in their portrayl of women? It usually puts them in submissive positions, even when that's not the focus of the film and has come under critisism for being littered with unintentional and intentional sexism. I just want equal rights in porn, is that too much to ask?


WHAT THE FUCK

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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2014, 10:38:54 PM »
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Do you think porn is harmful in their portrayl of women? It usually puts them in submissive positions, even when that's not the focus of the film and has come under critisism for being littered with unintentional and intentional sexism. I just want equal rights in porn, is that too much to ask?


WHAT THE FUCK

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Please let me know where I should put my cock in you so as not to oppress you. Thanks in advance.


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What do you mean you are leaving me for a "real man"?  Don't fall for that trap!
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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2014, 02:44:01 AM »
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Do you think porn is harmful in their portrayl of women? It usually puts them in submissive positions, even when that's not the focus of the film and has come under critisism for being littered with unintentional and intentional sexism. I just want equal rights in porn, is that too much to ask?


WHAT THE FUCK

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Even Pornstars would laugh at that faggot.

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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2014, 05:20:17 AM »
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The problem with porn and erotica as "art" is that most of the shit we say while fucking/attempting to get to fuck is corny as shit. It's gooshy, emotional, and usually only profound and meaningful to the people involved in the action. So any attempt to make it into art either means it's going to be unrealistically "romanticized" or just sound ridiculous.

I've meant everything I've said to every woman I've been with, but if you quoted me on a lot of it I'd be damn embarrassed.

I think shitlibs get a bit touchy over porn because it's raw, unfiltered base human emotions and behaviors.  The picture painted by people's porn consumption habits isn't pretty, and liberals want to shut it down or socially engineer porn in an effort to guide people's private thoughts.

Porn is where the "you are a beautiful curvy woman of size" myth goes to die, and that enrages thundercunt feminists.

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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2014, 12:40:15 PM »
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The problem with porn and erotica as "art" is that most of the shit we say while fucking/attempting to get to fuck is corny as shit. It's gooshy, emotional, and usually only profound and meaningful to the people involved in the action. So any attempt to make it into art either means it's going to be unrealistically "romanticized" or just sound ridiculous.

I've meant everything I've said to every woman I've been with, but if you quoted me on a lot of it I'd be damn embarrassed.

I think shitlibs get a bit touchy over porn because it's raw, unfiltered base human emotions and behaviors.  The picture painted by people's porn consumption habits isn't pretty, and liberals want to shut it down or socially engineer porn in an effort to guide people's private thoughts.

Porn is where the "you are a beautiful curvy woman of size" myth goes to die, and that enrages thundercunt feminists.

This is the most vile and 1984-ish of the modern left's goals.


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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2014, 01:45:49 PM »
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Goons are surprisingly conservative when it comes to porn when it's the only source of release for so many of them

This is weird because this wasn't always the case. Before the rise of twitter/facebook/tumblr, goons were openly all about porn & prostitution. Now they're saying nothing but how pornography is systematic oppression by the patriarchal bourgeoisie against women in order to keep them down (lol) or some other form of asinine bullshit like that.

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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2014, 02:52:04 PM »
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Goons are surprisingly conservative when it comes to porn when it's the only source of release for so many of them

This is weird because this wasn't always the case. Before the rise of twitter/facebook/tumblr, goons were openly all about porn & prostitution. Now they're saying nothing but how pornography is systematic oppression by the patriarchal bourgeoisie against women in order to keep them down (lol) or some other form of asinine bullshit like that.


Different breed of goons. This is the crop that was attracted to the new SJW hugbox facilitated by the spread of LF.


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« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2014, 02:58:55 PM »
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Goons are surprisingly conservative when it comes to porn when it's the only source of release for so many of them

This is weird because this wasn't always the case. Before the rise of twitter/facebook/tumblr, goons were openly all about porn & prostitution. Now they're saying nothing but how pornography is systematic oppression by the patriarchal bourgeoisie against women in order to keep them down (lol) or some other form of asinine bullshit like that.

It's also very empowering for a woman to do porn, they've argued that a lot. The crux is that they don't like that men watch it, that's really what they're against.

So it's no surprise that most of them idolize the Swedish(also Norwegian) laws regarding prostitution: it's legal for women to sell sex, there's nothing wrong with doing that, but it's illegal for men to buy it, because that's a horrible crime against women.

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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2014, 03:37:11 PM »
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Goons are surprisingly conservative when it comes to porn when it's the only source of release for so many of them

This is weird because this wasn't always the case. Before the rise of twitter/facebook/tumblr, goons were openly all about porn & prostitution. Now they're saying nothing but how pornography is systematic oppression by the patriarchal bourgeoisie against women in order to keep them down (lol) or some other form of asinine bullshit like that.

It's also very empowering for a woman to do porn, they've argued that a lot. The crux is that they don't like that men watch it, that's really what they're against.

So it's no surprise that most of them idolize the Swedish(also Norwegian) laws regarding prostitution: it's legal for women to sell sex, there's nothing wrong with doing that, but it's illegal for men to buy it, because that's a horrible crime against women.

So wouldn't that mean lesbian prostitution would be the only completely legal prostitution on both sides of the exchange?
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« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2014, 03:51:51 PM »
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They don't like women doing it, but questioning what a woman does is verboten.

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Re: Ask/Tell Thread: Tell me about being a raging faggot!
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2014, 04:25:11 PM »
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So wouldn't that mean lesbian prostitution would be the only completely legal prostitution on both sides of the exchange?

Now that's prostitution I can get behind!

Wait, no, that would be illegal.
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