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Title: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on July 21, 2012, 12:44:59 PM
I think it's no secret here that I have an especial scorn for Generation Y. I also think there are a number of people here who feel the same. Maybe you could say I'm a Gen Xer who feels his generation was passed by a bit by the media in favor of the new shiny Gen Ys who were supposed to supplant the Boomers as the Next Big Thing. There might be some truth to that. But moreso, it's because now that they've grown older, Millenials have shown that not only do they fantastically not deserve the laudations that thrown their way by eager reporters and pundits a few years ago, but they are in fact one of the most childish, regressive, and self centered generations we've ever seen.

Let's look at how Gen Y was (and sometimes still is) described in the media:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/boblutz/2012/07/06/why-generation-y-isnt-catching-car-fever/
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They no longer see the driver’s license as liberating them from the suffocating embrace of their parents. The car, to them, is a passe form of prestige, of assuming, through the BMW or Mercedes label, a dignity beyond what the owner knows she’s worth.

Generation Y eschews all this. To them, that electrifying moment we all experienced when Dad first gave us the car keys and told us to be back at 11 p.m. (no beer stains or other spots in the car, for God’s sake) has been beneficially replaced by the glowing moment when their eager little fingers lovingly, incredulously caressed their first smart phone.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/workplace/2005-11-06-gen-y_x.htm
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Generation Y: They've arrived at work with a new attitude
hey're young, smart, brash. They may wear flip-flops to the office or listen to iPods at their desk. They want to work, but they don't want work to be their life.
Get ready, because this generation — whose members have not yet hit 30 — is different from any that have come before, according to researchers and authors such as Bruce Tulgan, a founder of New Haven, Conn.-based RainmakerThinking, which studies the lives of young people.
Unlike the generations that have gone before them, Gen Y has been pampered, nurtured and programmed with a slew of activities since they were toddlers, meaning they are both high-performance and high-maintenance, Tulgan says. They also believe in their own worth.

"Generation Y is much less likely to respond to the traditional command-and-control type of management still popular in much of today's workforce," says Jordan Kaplan, an associate managerial science professor at Long Island University-Brooklyn in New York. "They've grown up questioning their parents, and now they're questioning their employers. They don't know how to shut up, which is great, but that's aggravating to the 50-year-old manager who says, 'Do it and do it now.' "

That speak-your-mind philosophy makes sense to Katie Patterson, an assistant account executive at Edelman Public Relations in Atlanta. The 23-year-old, who hails from Iowa and now lives with two roommates in a town home, likes to collaborate with others, and says many of her friends want to run their own businesses so they can be independent.

"We are willing and not afraid to challenge the status quo," she says. "An environment where creativity and independent thinking are looked upon as a positive is appealing to people my age. We're very independent and tech savvy." 
:goonette:

Angie Ping, 23, of Alvin, Texas, lives in flip-flops but isn't allowed to wear them to the office. "Some companies' policies relating to appropriate office attire seem completely outdated to me," says Ping, at International Facility Management Association. "The new trend for work attire this season is menswear-inspired capri pants, which look as dressy as pants when paired with heels, but capri pants are not allowed at my organization."
  :clint:

At first, when these twee assholes began flooding the workplace 8-10 years ago, everyone talked about how they were the "game changers," that businesses would have to adapt to them. 50 year old Boomer managers would have to change workplace policies to be more relaxed, allow a loose dress code, people to come and go as they please, be allowed to check Facebook all day, etc.

Now that the economy tanked, people are realizing that there are a ton of Gen Xers and Boomers left who need work who will work long hours, not demand a lot of stupid perks and coddling, and now Gen Y is whining about how they can't find jobs.
 :stewart:

This was inevitable, because this generation was coddled by it's late Boomer/Early Gen X parents as no other. They were not to know privation or hardship. Schools and parents ensured everyone was a unique snowflake who always won a trophy. They were bubblewrapped and kept inside to play video games and only allowed out for carefully monitored extracurricular activities designed to get them into the best schools. They were put on pedestals and never criticized and told they were going to Change The World.

Now things are a bit harsher, a bit more real, but these idiots are still careening by on the idea that everything should be handed to them and everything should adapt to them. They interview for first jobs and demand all sorts of conditions and don't respond for weeks if you do offer it to them, because they are trying to find something better because they've been conditioned to believe they are a commodity. I've had 10 interns in the past year and when I ask them what their short term goals are, 8 of them say "owning their own business" in the next couple of years.
 :geithner:



So this thread is for posting examples of Gen Y stupidity. They can be from SA, or Reddit, sanctimonious Gen Y blogs or fawning pundits from mainstream media.

Here's my first example: Blue Pony (surprise surprise, complete with Ponytar) from SA posted a thread in Ask/Tell about how she could live illegally in England:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3470892

Quote from: Blue Pony" post="401295542
I'm an American gal in her mid twenties who HAS always wanted to live abroad in England for awhile. I've always gotten along swimmingly with Brits that I've met over the years whom have told me that I neither act or sound like an American(I hear that from other Americans as well) and I have always dreamed of spending a few years over there.

Unfortunately, as many would be expats have learned, I just can't show up and get a job. You can't get a working visa unless someone over there wants pay the money for the visa to hire you AND the only way to be hired is if you have job skills that they can't find in any native workers.

Seeing as I went to Art School(Easily the worst decision a pre-recession highschool student could make) and do not have any  talents that would warrant such a thing, I'm pretty much screwed.

So now I'm basically looking at my only other option: Sneaking in.

I have friends and have met people who have traveled/studied abroad and exceeded their travel/student visas and lived illegally and worked paid under the table type jobs. They've made it seem pretty easy and I've been heavily considering this for some time.

I don't mind working a crap job, I'm currently working one here in the US. I'd rather be waiting tables or bar tending in a new country where I could meet new people and experience new things than continue doing so in the same boring town in the same boring state, day in and day out.

I'm not scared of being caught and deported, I want to be able to travel and have adventure while I'm young. I'm already stone poor and up to my teeth in student debt, I'll probably never have a career at this point, so I might as well live now and without regrets!
 :adam:--I wanted to highlight only part of these two sentences but found I had to keep extending the bolding. It almost perfectly sums up the Gen Y attitiude

Skeptical? Well she does have a pretty solid 10 year plan guys:
Quote from: Blue Pony" post="401296896
Well my ten year plan is to save up enough money to move to New York(Another life long dream of mine) work, enjoy life, and unless I met someone or an amazing job prospect came up, eventually beebop on over to England and maybe spend three or four years there.

After that, maybe come back to the USA, maybe go to Australia, they have much more lax immigrant laws there.
:reagan:
You can literally have whatever you want if you just want it to be so.

Now you might wonder how it is that she figures she can get so much money working as an illegal immigrant. Well you see, she has first (second) hand experience of how one illegal immigrant was successful, and since this business owner who has been working for 20 years longer than her has nicer things than her, illegal immigration must be the path to success! All situations are exactly the same!
Quote from: Blue Pony" post="401306515
Well so far thats the most positive thing I've heard so far in this thread, but considering my current boss is an illegal Mexican immigrant who is about the nicest, funniest guy you will ever meet, and has lived undetected for 20 years in my country and raised two adorable kids without any persecution or threat of deportation, no offense, but that really isn't a meaningful statement.

Here in America, illegal immigrants are a part of life, and are pretty welcome, despite what the popular media might say.

I mean Christ, the man owns two Ipads and each of his kids own the newest iphone! I own a mac I got for free in 2005 and could never replace if my life depended on it currently and a cheap as humanly possible go phone. If I ever got hurt, I would die in the street because I can't afford health insurance, he can. I haven't seen a docter or dentist in 15 years, welcome to America, best country on Earth!

Two Ipads!? Insanity! He must be RICH!!

Quote from: Blue Pony" post="401306839
I have never known privilege, I thought was told, like many other young americans, that taking out huge loans to pay for college was the right thing to do, and that I would immediately get a job after school and pay it off for the rest of my life.

The the economy imploded on itself and that all became a lie. I'm all on my own now and have to make my own way, without help from my family or my government. I want to see the world even though I'm so poor that $300 a month for rent is obscene to me. I've seen too many 50 year old women at my shitty fast food jobs who wasted their lives believing that things would get better if they just stayed put.

I was told I was a special and unique snowflake who could go to college for anything and would be handed success, but then the Real World happened and because I don't have what I want Right Now I might as well stop trying for a career and just live a life of Fun and Adventure!
 :tuss:

If I've said it once, I've said it a million times, thank God for these idiots though, because that just means there's that much less competition in the workplace for me.

Post your favorite Gen Y people or quotes ITT.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: LITERALLY A RAPIST on July 21, 2012, 02:01:20 PM
generation y is full of people that believe they should be able to have anything they want, no matter how unfeasible it is. When it doesn't work it, it's society's problem and the world should adapt to them. Generation Y is a generation raised on films like The Nightmare Before Christmas: turns out the protagonist was right all along and society should be forced to adapt! More than any other generation they've been exposed to that type of media in the form readily accessible television, movies, video games, and other forms of consumable entertainment. Once upon a time if you wanted entertainment it meant engaging others; you went out with your buddies and compromised on a bar. You played a pick-up game of baseball and were left fielder because you weren't the best you and you knew it.

I don't think it's any surprise that people turned out the way they did when you look at it that way. Look how many goons are upset that they can't get a job because their History degree is worthless. They were raised on the notion of doing what you want when you want and you're the hero so everything will be just fine and work out in the end. Generation Y lacks humility; everything they've done is a fantastic achievement with merit.

I'm a non-traditional college student so I get to see all this dumb it first hand. In co-op 101 I hear about one person's leadership experience because she was co-captain of the cheerleading squad (I swear this was said verbatim and I'm not making this shit up) in high school and helped make schedules.

Generation Y loves to puff out their chest and wave their e-dicks around in e-mails. Don't ever bother trying to argue with Gen Y over e-mail; they'll CC the world about it and it's like arguing with a goon. Every time I've been in a situation like that, I've hit reply to all and wrote an innocuous statement along the lines of "We don't seem to be getting our points across in e-mails; we should set up a time to sit down and discuss this face to face." Every time this happens, they've either dropped the issue entirely or ended up staring at their feet while I yelled at them. When it comes to the real world, Generation Y is so woefully unprepared that they'll back away at the slightest hint of confrontation.

Gen Y never apologizes. There's always an excuse about why, and you should just deal with it. Gen Y really just doesn't get the concept that they could have possibly fucked up at something. I can't count the endless streams of excuses I've heard. One guy missed a lab, and the first words out of his mouth were "I was hungover. It's not my fault; it was my birthday and they made me do 19 shots".  I've had Gen Yers e-mail me at 2 in the morning with their parts of the project, when it's due at 9. The idea that I might be sleeping, and not eagerly waiting at my computer for them is completely foreign.

It's not limited to America either. I can't think of a single Chinese student I've seen that wasn't woefully fucked up. They're in such a culture shock of being away from home for the first time ever that they do nothing but try to recreate Little China - stick only with other Chinese, eat the same exact thing they ate back home, and refuse to integrate or adapt in any way. Getting stuck with a Chinese student for group work is the worst, because they don't give a fuck about their terrible English. I either have to sit there and get a C, or just delete their parts and write them myself.

Fuck Generation Y.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: LITERALLY A RAPIST on July 21, 2012, 02:39:49 PM
Goons are the filtered essence of Gen Y. Gen Y doesn't believe in going out and being successful; look at how hard goons mock bootstraps. They just believe it happens because of "privilege". "Privilege" allows Gen Y to feel better about its failures; in these situations, it's not failures. Things just didn't happen because they don't have enough privilege.

You've got privilege if you pass the criteria of any one of the blow
1)White (or can pass as white)
2)Male
3)Christian
4)Not poor
5)Not from a poor family
6)College-educated
7)Straight
8)Cisgendered
9)Have supportive/educated parents
10)Are in good health
11)If you're disabled, it's something that can pass 'undetected'.
12)Lack mental illnesses

The concept of privilege allows Gen Y'ers to ignore their own shortcomings. Got a good job? It's because of privilege. Did you get a degree in a STEM field? It's because of your privilege. You didn't earn anything, you got it from your privilege. It's set to be such a wide fucking scale that anyone's achievements can be torn down. Only Gen Y could swallow such horseshit.

Gen Y is going to be a generation of serfs. Their laziness and unwillingness to actually take a good, hard look at themselves is going to stop most of them from ever being successful. Look at how easily they're swindled out of their money. Have you guys heard about "Kickstarter"? It's a website where people donate money to projects (mostly video games) in return for a free copy of it when it comes out. What happens to the rest of the profits (because the game will still be sold to the public)? The creator/developer gets to keep them themselves.

That's right. Generation Y is actually destroying the practice of investing. Rather than get equity in return for an investment, they're throwing their money away. There's no security in any of this; kickstarters can (and have) been cancelled for whatever reasons after taking donations. Of course since it's a donation and there's absolutely no form of equity, donors are left empty handed. But that hasn't spoiled the concept for the manchildren of Gen Y; Kickstarter is still going on strong. These fucking people are their own worst enemies.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: yowhatupg on July 22, 2012, 07:50:46 AM
Skeptical? Well she does have a pretty solid 10 year plan guys:
Quote from: Blue Pony" post="401296896
Well my ten year plan is to save up enough money to move to New York(Another life long dream of mine) work, enjoy life, and unless I met someone or an amazing job prospect came up, eventually beebop on over to England and maybe spend three or four years there.

After that, maybe come back to the USA, maybe go to Australia, they have much more lax immigrant laws there.

FUCK

As an Australian, as the leftists are very quick to point out, we have about 10x illegal immigration via normal aeroplane-arriving tourists outstaying their visas as we do boat people. Fuck this bitch and her entitlement complex as though the average aussie is glad that she can sponge off our iron ore-derived welfare.

:insert wrestler ruining cardboard door smiley here:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on July 22, 2012, 11:29:13 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ciocentral/2012/07/03/lets-play-to-keep-gen-y-staffers-gamify-their-work/
(http://i.imgur.com/l7bLP.png)-Your author, who will be changing the world for you.

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A recent MTV workplace survey showed that Millennials overwhelmingly agree that their jobs should reflect their lifestyle, their workplace should be social and fun, and they should have flexible hours and autonomy over the projects they’ve been assigned. They want regular feedback on their performance and recognition for their work. Who wouldn’t want all that? Millenials overwhelming agree that their jobs should be centered around them and be fun, not like work.

Full disclosure: I fit the description and identify deeply with the survey’s findings. Some people think of my generation as lazy, good-for-nothing slackers, feeling entitled to everything and entirely lacking a work ethic. But that’s wrong: Millennials have an incredible work ethic.   
:rock:

We want to work, we want to succeed and the want to reshape the world in our image. We are simply motivated in non-traditional ways. So, instead of giving up on the entire generation, let’s reconsider the way we work and see if we can’t identify improvements in the status quo that might bring out the best in employees, while satisfying work/life expectations of this generation. Let's change the entire way the working world functions to make it more convenient for a bunch of 20 year olds.
 :jesse:

Before we consider solutions, let’s fully understand the challenge. Nicole Lipkin, business psychologist and author of Y in the Workplace: Managing the ‘Me First’ Generation, is a recognized expert on the Gen Y workforce. “Millennials, like no generation before them, are demanding work/life balance, flexibility for themselves and social responsibility from their employers,” she says. There's 20% effective unemployment, but please do think you can pick and choose where you work based on how socially conscious a corporation is.
  :ultlibrage:

According to Lipkin, factors like education and technology combined with other global influences have deeply affected the psychology of my generation. Inundated from an early age with images of 9/11, Columbine-style shootings and wars against terrorism, Millennials refuse to wait until we’ve retired to live our lives. Forward-thinking corporate culture, flexibility and personal enjoyment have become essential factors in our career choices. “If your corporate values don’t reflect Gen Y values,” says Lipkin, “you’ll have a hard time attracting and retaining these employees.” Who cares?
 :paul:

And we will not be ignored.   :christina: Millennials already make up 25% of the American workforce and that number grows each day as Boomers retire and my fellow 20-somethings graduate. Why yes, there are a lot of service industry jobs out there. Forward-thinking companies are adapting themselves to fit this new paradigm, and many are doing so by embracing the process of gamification.
 :facepalm:

Gamification is the integration of game mechanics and theory into non-game applications and processes in the workplace. The system capitalizes on technology and an innate sense of sportsmanship to encourage employees to engage in desired behaviors. In return, they receive recognition for their efforts, regular feedback on their standing, a clear vision of what’s required to succeed, increased socialization, enjoyment and personal satisfaction. Exactly what we’re looking for.
 :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

At New York City-based Bluewolf Consulting, gamification has been woven into the corporate culture to encourage communication and collaboration among employees. According to Bluewolf CMO Corinne Sklar, “One of the biggest challenges we faced was how to cultivate a powerful thought leadership program that would incentivize collaboration, drive meaningful conversations between employees and, in doing so, produce quality content. We were looking for a program that would offer wide appeal to our employee base, and would extend organically into the corporate culture.”

Employees earn points by posting creative new topics for discussion or responding to the posts of others, generating dialogues that keep the company’s programs and perspectives fresh and innovative. Employees are also encouraged to share blog posts, white papers and other externally-focused materials through their own social networks like LinkedIn, Twitter and Facebook. When someone in the employee’s network clicks on that link, more points are awarded. Points can be cashed in for a number of different prizes including everything from iPads, to lunch with the CEO. Employees are fanatical about the program.
 :geithner:

In three months, traffic from social media outlets to the Bluewolf site has increased by 45 percent, while external traffic to the company’s blog increased by 80 percent. The company’s blogger count climbed from five to 25, all regularly sharing fresh ideas, expertise and building out new concepts. The program has resulted in real, measurable results that add to the company’s bottom line, while successfully leveraging their existing social media programs.

Gartner estimates that over 50 percent of organizations that manage innovation processes will “gamify” them in the next three years. The coming business cycle is sure to include many demographically-driven changes, and gamification presents a rare opportunity for companies to address the needs of next-gen employees, while also improving productivity, increasing collaboration, minimizing turnover, improving employee morale, more effectively leveraging social media and driving business opportunities. When a relatively simple concept can have that kind of impact, it’s safe to say we’ll be seeing a lot of it in the near future. And we’ll have Gen Y to thank for it.
(http://i.imgur.com/pZthA.gif)

So instead of the simple concept of you work, you get paid, you are responsible, you save money, you enjoy the fruits of your labor, Gen Y must have it different. You have to literally turn work into Candyland or Chutes and Ladders to hold their attention. It's not enough to enjoy yourself at home, and the conclusion of a work day, or a weekend or a vacation. Your employers must amuse you and entertain you, because you aren't like those stuffy mean old adults.  :lolno:

They literally think that as high level Boomer employees retire at 65, they will be replaced with 22 year old college graduates, not by 45 year olds.

How about this? Work is work. It's not supposed to be fun. You're supposed to do it because that's what it means to be a responsible adult and contribute to society, to support yourself and your family. If you enjoy it, that's great, but you shouldn't enjoy it more than the time you spend with your friends and family. That time is the reward for doing the work. You want a fucking Ipad? Work and buy it, don't expect it as a reward for making a lot of Facebook posts and writing masturbatory memos. You want lunch with the CEO? Become a manager on your merit and attract his attention with your job performance.

If some kid who worked for me came to my office and started going on and on about his or her "expectations" and "work/life balance" I'd sit them down, give them a very adult conversation about the way things are, put them in a position which more accurately reflected their maturity level, and hire one of the many 30-50 year olds who are looking for work.

Christ. :hank:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: BubbaCat on July 23, 2012, 12:34:38 PM
I cannot saying anything better than what has been said.  As a GenXer, I look forward to watching the world burn when I hit retirement age.  I will welcome our Chinese comrades with open arms.  They will teach all of the GenYers real life and pain; and in a generation, I will watch from my deathbed, a great rebellion, as the new GenZers take up arms and crush our foreign occupiers and make America a world power again like we were during WWII.
 :johnwayne:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Procrustes on July 24, 2012, 09:46:19 AM
China is a rural, agrarian nation and the 8% who live and work in cities are either slaves making cheap shit for export or work for the Chink gov.

Their economy is going to collapse in the next 3 years, and when it does those slaves are going to run back to their villages to pick rice/their own ass.

 :obammy:

Also this x1000:
Fuck Generation Y.

 :reagan:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on July 24, 2012, 07:39:09 PM
These are the people who want to 'destroy the status quo' but seem to fail to realise that without the status quo they would be raped and enslaved within minutes.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: High Impact Sexbot 2020 on August 17, 2012, 10:36:17 PM
Mot dis fukkin' thread.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Doctor Jizzmopper on August 22, 2012, 11:24:39 AM
Gen crY more like it. So fucking glad I don't have to deal with them much, and they are getting rarer even in fast food joints. Which means I get a complete, unfucked order now.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: High Impact Sexbot 2020 on August 22, 2012, 11:26:35 AM
Gen crY

 :lilal:

Stealing this and working into every conversation I have  :allears:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: veteran of forum wars on September 22, 2012, 08:03:50 PM
I'm early Gen-Y and I see the faggotry first hand with people my age saying dumb shit about how they need the latest phones and how hard starbucks barista jobs are yap yap yap.

I only wish I grew up in an earlier time so I wouldn't have lacked the same work opportunities prior to the nigger/chink/taco flood coming in.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: veteran of forum wars on September 26, 2012, 04:49:24 PM
Going against the grain and saying that Gen Y-ners don't have the same opportunities X'ers and Boomers had. They had to deal with skyhigh tuition, shitty (jewed) job market due to immigrant floods, anti-White hiring practices (aff. action) and outsourcing. However, when you look at how pozzed the generation has become (iPhones, shrieking and other disgusting faggot behavior), it's hard to sympathize with them.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on September 26, 2012, 09:15:02 PM
How many Gen Y'ers got drafted for Iraq and Afghanistan?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: High Impact Sexbot 2020 on September 27, 2012, 02:58:30 AM
The only draft Gen crY has ever known is the almighty Dew.

In a limited edtion MLP mug of course.

M'lady
M'lady
M'laaaaaady
M'laaaaaaaaaaady
 :unparsons:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on September 27, 2012, 07:09:26 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jennagoudreau/2012/09/26/top-5-interview-mistakes-millennials-make/

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No. 1: Wear Inappropriate Interview Attire
The top interview mistake millennials make is wearing the wrong clothing, according to 75% of hiring managers surveyed. When Angela Romano Kuo was vice president of human resources at  professional job-matching company TheLadders, she recalls being appalled that a young man came to an interview wearing a golf shirt, shorts and flip flops. He did not get the job. “Err on the side of being overdressed to make a good impression,” she advises. In an interview, stay away from flashy jewelry, plunging necklines, too-short hemlines, t-shirts, and shoes that are too casual or too difficult to walk in. “You never want to wear something that can be distracting, so if you have to think twice about it—skip it.”

I was at a job fair for my company the other day and holy hell you would not believe the collection of people who showed up. I could forgive a goony kid who doesn't own a goddamn suit because he's 18 and he's wearing highwater dress pants from his bar mitzvah, a dark shirt and his dad's out of style tie. But the sheer numbers of people between 22-30, clearly post college, who were walking around in shorts and whatnot was embarrassing.


The others on that list were "inappropriate social media posts, not knowing enough about the company you're interviewing with, not asking questions, and surprise, surprise, "overconfidence."
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: High Impact Sexbot 2020 on September 28, 2012, 01:32:35 AM
Back in the day if you wanted to tell the world that you were a fucking faggot you got treated like a fucking faggot.
 :paul:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Procrustes on September 28, 2012, 09:23:11 AM
I've just about had it with dudes wearing flip-flops everyfucking where they go.

Some jackasses at my church show up in fucking tshirt/shorts and flip-flops. 

I mean, it's one thing to show up to the pool or go for a trip to the store or w/e in those damned things...but God damn.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: BubbaCat on September 28, 2012, 11:39:48 AM
and surprise, surprise, "overconfidence."

When everyone gets a trophy, this hardly surprises me.  Add in a good healthy dose of constant praise from friends via said social media, they never face real-life confrontation and adversity to get that all-needed reality check leading to non-skewed self-awareness.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: BubbaCat on September 28, 2012, 11:46:14 AM
BTW, I am a huge proponent of bring this back as the standard for everyday male attire:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bz1_ctNJFyo/RnTQqDTU6lI/AAAAAAAAAwo/eCHqW6DGuzQ/s400/men1940s.jpg)


Hell, poor men lined up in the 1930s for bread in there best attire.  People had pride and self respect.
(http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/images/great-depression-bread-lines.jpg)

Edit for photo that encapsulates testosterone, style, and pride (no homo):
(http://images.askmen.com/fashion/style_icon/58_style-icon-cary-grant.jpg)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on September 28, 2012, 05:58:17 PM
I've just about had it with dudes wearing flip-flops everyfucking where they go.

Some jackasses at my church show up in fucking tshirt/shorts and flip-flops. 

I mean, it's one thing to show up to the pool or go for a trip to the store or w/e in those damned things...but God damn.

I hate to say it but the example is set even by older generations. I saw this old guy, Boomer at least, at traffic court today wearing fucking shorts to court. Shameful.


and surprise, surprise, "overconfidence."

When everyone gets a trophy, this hardly surprises me.  Add in a good healthy dose of constant praise from friends via said social media, they never face real-life confrontation and adversity to get that all-needed reality check leading to non-skewed self-awareness.

One of my former interns who is still in school and about to graduate had a come to Jesus moment recently and was telling me about it...she's finally realized there really aren't a fuck ton of jobs out there and is panicking and regretting her choice of major. But the other side of it is that she's hearing "horror stories" about friends who recently graduated and hate their jobs because they are menial, they have mean bosses, they don't get to do awesome cool world changing shit and they aren't looked upon as heroes. I had to give her some Real Talk.


BTW, I am a huge proponent of bring this back as the standard for everyday male attire:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bz1_ctNJFyo/RnTQqDTU6lI/AAAAAAAAAwo/eCHqW6DGuzQ/s400/men1940s.jpg)


Hell, poor men lined up in the 1930s for bread in there best attire.  People had pride and self respect.
(http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/images/great-depression-bread-lines.jpg)

Edit for photo that encapsulates testosterone, style, and pride (no homo):
(http://images.askmen.com/fashion/style_icon/58_style-icon-cary-grant.jpg)

 :reagan:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: High Impact Sexbot 2020 on September 28, 2012, 08:10:20 PM
 :reagan:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Doctor Jizzmopper on September 29, 2012, 02:06:44 PM
http://youtu.be/CwwWqRV2RsI


 :madgoon:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on October 01, 2012, 06:18:20 PM
http://youtu.be/CwwWqRV2RsI


 :madgoon:

 :stewart:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: accshr on October 03, 2012, 03:35:19 PM
i don't even own a pair of shorts :hank:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Procrustes on October 03, 2012, 05:45:17 PM
i don't even own a pair of shorts :hank:

Yeah me either.  I jog in a banana hammock and ride my bike buck naked like a real man  :clint:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: High Impact Sexbot 2020 on October 04, 2012, 02:24:01 AM
i don't even own a pair of shorts :hank:

Sorry to hear your girlfriend isn't a twin  :stewart: :ultlibrage: :dubya: :obama: :joe: :goonette: :unparsons: :madgoon: :algore: :clint: :lolno: :lilal: :jesse: :paul: :stewart: :christina: :geithner: :myecred: :smug: :allears: :rock: :johnwayne:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: accshr on October 04, 2012, 02:29:18 AM
this is what i get for letting my posting career and personal life cross swords :myecred:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: High Impact Sexbot 2020 on October 04, 2012, 03:22:22 AM
(http://brianmay.com/brian/briannews/newspix/12/Brian_May_Thumbs_Up_Cromwell_Road_690x5188.jpg)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: BubbaCat on October 04, 2012, 12:35:27 PM
this is what i get for letting my posting career and personal life cross swords :myecred:
lol'd
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on October 08, 2012, 01:43:00 AM
Echoing what 2nd class internet citizen said, my friend is having a great time in his final year of University at the moment.

He's getting calls from his other group members asking him to do their work for them. I mean they're just straight up asking him to do their portions of the work.

Hilariously, one of his group members is going to be deported for not doing his work. He's some international student who is going to fail for not meeting the bare minimum requirements he's going to be deported since he's on a student visa.



Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on October 13, 2012, 10:31:55 AM
Here's a story to give you hope in the Greatestest Generation: a story about how Gen Y is starting to learn financial responsibility due to the poor economy.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/12/living/millennials-shopping/index.html

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A generations that resists 'buying in excess'

Entering the work force amid a tough economy and high unemployment has influenced the way a lot of millennials shop, said Kaufman, making them more selective about everything they purchase.

"This is not a generation of buying in excess," she said. "It's about mixing and matching and high and low-end pieces. Investment pieces are still key, but it's not the same throwaway culture as with previous generations."

Could it be that Gen Y is finally learning to be mature, responsible, and realistic in the greatest economic downturn since the Great Depression? Could they perhaps learn the same hard lessons that made our grandparents so spendthrifty after the excesses of their childhoods in the 20s turned to the lean years of the 30s? Will they buy practical clothes based on durability that will last for years instead of wasting their money on trivials?
 :adam:





















 :lolno: :lolno: :lolno: :lolno: :lolno: :lolno: :lolno: :lolno: :lolno:

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Matthew Clairborne says his spending habits have become more conservative since he traded a decent salary in advertising last year for student loans to attend journalism school in New York. He and his friends aim for stylishness amid frugality, he said.

He went to college, graduated, GOT A GOOD PAYING JOB IN A CAREER FIELD and said fuck it and went back to school.
 :paul:

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"A lot of us are in transition: unemployed, grad school, in jobs that don't relate to our degrees," said the 23-year-old Louisiana native, who describes his style as hipster-preppie.
:hank:

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"We're in phases where we have to be economical and smart about our shopping habits."
 :stewart:

He considers himself a shrewd shopper with a good sense of where to get the best bang for his buck. H&M works for cardigans, sweaters and hats but not much else, he said. Otherwise, he rarely buys items at full price. Bloomingdale's tends to have great sales on shoes, and he subscribes to e-mail alerts from Zara, H&M and Macy's.

While he gets most of his style inspiration by walking the streets of New York, he did buy a cardigan online once while watching TV on his laptop. The network's website offered viewers the option to shop the looks they saw on actors with just one click. It matched a vintage denim vest he already had. [NOTE--THIS IS A MAN, NOT A WOMAN]

"I try to shop for versatility, because I'm on a tight budget. I want to be able to wear it to multiple events and occasions and transfer between seasons," he said. "Style is a recurring event, a process, a cycle. I never buy a complete outfit, because feel like it's a waste of money. I'll only wear it once."
:drew:

So he's a "conservative shopper" without a lot of money and lives a frugal life, but feels the need to have a defined "hipster-preppie style" and a philosophy that "style is a recurring event, a process, a cycle."

I'm sure this guy felt the same way:
(http://i.imgur.com/KYEjQ.jpg)

Never change, Gen Y, never change.  :allears:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: accshr on October 14, 2012, 06:16:39 AM
I'd hardly say that a retarded fashionista twerpy Jew York faggot is a representative sample

but then again he lives there and Gen Y loves that east coast sodomite shit so :myecred:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: BubbaCat on October 15, 2012, 02:00:25 PM
Here's a story to give you hope in the Greatestest Generation: a story about how Gen Y is starting to learn financial responsibility due to the poor economy.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/12/living/millennials-shopping/index.html

Quote
I'll only wear it once."

I was cool with handling the irony with my sperg gauge staying at a steady low setting.  It is obvious that that article was written either by another gen Yer, or someone sympathetic to their "plight."  But then I got to, "I'll only wear it once."

You cannot possibly know pain from being poor and still be able to utter this statement.  Life is not even close to being bad, even if unemployed and in grad school if you never have to wear the same outfit twice.  WTF is wrong with these guys? :clint:

I cannot benefit from these a-holes since they are skinny-fat and have pear-shaped bodies, but if you look in the size smalls in a platos closet of resale shop, this is true.  The stuff is worn once and not even washed.  Brand new looking.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: LITERALLY A RAPIST on October 15, 2012, 03:22:51 PM
imo the problem with the generation is that we haven't had it tough. The last time Americans were forced to actually go without something they wanted was rationing during WWII. they've never had to be in a physical conflict; a handful of students got pepper sprayed (oh no pain for 30 minutes) at UC Davis and you'd think it was Kent State all over again. Gen Y is all about the give part of the give-and-take relationship that everyone has with society. Perform a civil service and get a sweet ride through college? Nope sorry, I can't do that and society should pay for my journalism degree now now now! goonquotes.txt:

Quote from: Crazy Mike
Why pay to go to college when you can get paid to go to college? I'm beginning to think student loans are for suckers. Post 9/11 GI bill is getting me some sweet money while I get my MPA.

Quote from: Moridin920
Yeah all you have to do is go murder some brown people and maybe get killed yourself or see your friends blown up in a lightly armored humvee.

Quote from: Chinatown
Dying for nothing is for suckers. HTH.

Seriously though, congrats on not getting killed while on your quest to get to jump through another hoop of society/the jerb market/etc.

because as we all know every single person in the military is a dedicated front-line killing machine, even the x-ray technicians, dental assistants, metereologists, mechanics, and so on.

harden the fuck up and study something that you're interested in but isn't your favorite subject? oh heavens no.

Quote from: jassi007
The truth is are you going to have to borrow money? If so, go to school for a degree in science, technology, engineering, or math, and go to school as cheaply as possible while going to a quality school (no University of Phoenix Online) and the debt you incur will be worthwhile. Otherwise, find a tradeskill, learn computer programming yourself, go to a 2 year program at a community college, or get involved in healthcare somehow. If you don’t do those things and aren’t rich, you’re probably going to struggle for a long fucking time in this economy.

let the hysterics begin

Quote from: Reene
Ahh, the old "every degree that isn't engineering/CS/math is useless but if you have one of those you will be RICH FOREVER!" line goons love to trot out.

Those degrees are just as useless as any other BS and most BAs. At that level, all that matters is whether or not you have a four year degree, not what it's in.
:say:
(http://ak0.okccdn.com/php/load_okc_image.php/images/180x180/180x180/0x0/0x0/16/1404514719229013144.jpeg)

yes, a degree in chemistry is just as useless as one in latino-american history.

Quote from: a palatal allophone
I love how goons always love to rage about how "useless" an English degree in particular is. Yeah, absorbing large amounts of information quickly, analyzing it, and expressing your thoughts on the topic clearly. That's never useful in the working world.

psst here's a secret: every major in college is required to do this.

Quote from: a palatal allophone
Also, young goons: For those of you who might be taking this "pfft don't waste your time on a liberal arts degree, learn a trade (wanking motion)" shit to heart, do serious research about the job market before you go down that path. That's been the go-to advice for so long that most of the trades are filled to capacity. See also: Non-grunt jobs in the military. Actually even fast food and retail, the jobs every crank points to when he wants to call young people lazy for being unemployed. There aren't nearly as many jobs in those fields as you'd think, and most of them don't want to hire anybody with a college education or who looks like they might know the word "union."

In conclusion we're all doomed, good luck!

the last sentence says everything. no you faggot, you're doomed. you picked a major no one gives a shit about and did the Gen Y thing of refusing to compromise and just kept on driving through. now somehow all of america is fucked and the dream is dead. no wonder occupy wall street was such a big hit, it let the dregs of society further convince themselves that the boogie man on wall street put them into that position and not their own shit choices.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on October 15, 2012, 06:54:16 PM
I do wonder what the ratio of faggots/regular people is with this generation.

I mean, most of the people I associate with are decent, though obviously that's a selected sample. On the other hand, most of the random people I met at University seemed to be fuckwads and when I drive around these days it's really rare to see kids not wearing faggy clothes.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on October 15, 2012, 09:24:38 PM
I'd hardly say that a retarded fashionista twerpy Jew York faggot is a representative sample

but then again he lives there and Gen Y loves that east coast sodomite shit so :myecred:

Ah, but here's the thing. Clairborne isn't a Jewish name. And he may live in NYC, he may have chosen to go there, but he's from Louisiana.

So he may have chosen to emulate NYC gays/jews whatever, but more than likely he's what we now have to hold up as an example of a straight white male in modern society. He was NOT "born this way."

And that's even scarier.
 :swanson:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on October 15, 2012, 11:23:40 PM
He's been brought up to act like a bitch and it's no surprise that he's acting like a bitch. The real character test is how long it takes before he realises he can't carry on acting like a bitch.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on October 16, 2012, 12:25:41 AM
He's been brought up to act like a bitch and it's no surprise that he's acting like a bitch. The real character test is how long it takes before he realises he can't carry on acting like a bitch.

Right after niggers get done yanking him out of his house and taking his loots, but then it'll be too late.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Rocket on October 16, 2012, 06:43:15 AM
He's been brought up to act like a bitch and it's no surprise that he's acting like a bitch. The real character test is how long it takes before he realises he can't carry on acting like a bitch.

Right after niggers get done yanking him out of his house and taking his loots, but then it'll be too late.
That kind of person would apologize like the rape victim on the rooftop in Haiti.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: High Impact Sexbot 2020 on October 16, 2012, 07:44:00 AM
He's been brought up to act like a bitch and it's no surprise that he's acting like a bitch. The real character test is how long it takes before he realises he can't carry on acting like a bitch.

Right after niggers get done yanking him out of his house and taking his loots, but then it'll be too late.
That kind of person would apologize like the rape victim on the rooftop in Haiti.

Well the real problem is white male oppression, heh. Ouch, my vag hurts. Damn you, white male oppressors.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: LITERALLY A RAPIST on October 16, 2012, 09:38:26 AM
He's been brought up to act like a bitch and it's no surprise that he's acting like a bitch. The real character test is how long it takes before he realises he can't carry on acting like a bitch.

Right after niggers get done yanking him out of his house and taking his loots, but then it'll be too late.
That kind of person would apologize like the rape victim on the rooftop in Haiti.

Well the real problem is white male oppression, heh. Ouch, my vag hurts. Damn you, white male oppressors.

no seriously, that's what she claimed. rocket's referring to an article where some middle-age SWPL white woman was giving aid in haiti and talked about how she always pitied the poor helpless noble negro. then she got raped (maybe gangraped?) by one on a rooftop in haiti and understood that he wasn't a bad person, he was just lashing out at the white society that did it to him.

edit: here it is-
http://www.race-talk.org/we-are-not-your-weapons-we-are-women/ (http://www.race-talk.org/we-are-not-your-weapons-we-are-women/)

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By Amanda Kijera, civic journalist and activist in Haiti

Two weeks ago, on a Monday morning, I started to write what I thought was a very clever editorial about violence against women in Haiti. The case, I believed, was being overstated by women’s organizations in need of additional resources. Ever committed to preserving the dignity of Black men in a world which constantly stereotypes them as violent savages, I viewed this writing as yet one more opportunity to fight “the man” on behalf of my brothers. That night, before I could finish the piece, I was held on a rooftop in Haiti and raped repeatedly by one of the very men who I had spent the bulk of my life advocating for.

It hurt. The experience was almost more than I could bear. I begged him to stop. Afraid he would kill me, I pleaded with him to honor my commitment to Haiti, to him as a brother in the mutual struggle for an end to our common oppression, but to no avail. He didn’t care that I was a Malcolm X scholar. He told me to shut up, and then slapped me in the face. Overpowered, I gave up fighting halfway through the night.

Accepting the helplessness of my situation, I chucked aside the Haiti bracelet I had worn so proudly for over a year, along with it, my dreams of human liberation. Someone, I told myself, would always be bigger and stronger than me. As a woman, my place in life had been ascribed from birth. A Chinese proverb says that “women are like the grass, meant to be stepped on.” The thought comforted me at the same time that it made me cringe.

A dangerous thought. Others like it have derailed movements, discouraged consciousness and retarded progress for centuries. To accept it as truth signals the beginning of the end of a person–or community’s–life and ability to self-love. Resignation means inertia, and for the past two weeks I have inhabited its innards. My neighbors here include women from all over the world, but it’s the women of African descent, and particularly Haitian women, who move me to write now.

Truly, I have witnessed as a journalist and human rights advocate the many injustices inflicted upon Black men in this world. The pain, trauma and rage born of exploitation are terrors that I have grappled with every day of my life. They make one want to strike back, to fight rabidly for what is left of their personal dignity in the wake of such things. Black men have every right to the anger they feel in response to their position in the global hierarchy, but their anger is misdirected.

Women are not the source of their oppression; oppressive policies and the as-yet unaddressed white patriarchy which still dominates the global stage are. Because women–and particularly women of color–are forced to bear the brunt of the Black male response to the Black male plight, the international community and those nations who have benefitted from the oppression of colonized peoples have a responsibility to provide women with the protection that they need.

The United Nations, western women’s organizations and the Haitian government must immediately provide women in Haiti with the funding that they need to build domestic violence and rape crisis centers. Stop dividing Black families by distributing solely to women, which only exaggerates male resentment and frustration in Haiti. Provide both women and men with job training programs that would allow for self-sufficiency as opposed to continued dependency on whites. Lastly, admit that the issue of racial integration might still need addressing on an international level, and then find a way to address it!

I went to Haiti after the earthquake to empower Haitians to self-sufficiency. I went to remind them of the many great contributions that Afro-descendants have made to this world, and of their amazing resilience and strength as a people. Not once did I envision myself becoming a receptacle for a Black man’s rage at the white world, but that is what I became. While I take issue with my brother’s behavior, I’m grateful for the experience. It woke me up, made me understand on a deeper level the terror that my sisters deal with daily. This in hand, I feel comfortable in speaking for Haitian women, and for myself, in saying that we will not be your pawns, racially, politically, economically or otherwise.

We are women, not weapons of war. Thankfully, there are organizations here in Haiti who continues to fight for women’s human rights like, MADRE, SOFA and Enfofanm.

Rather than allowing myself to be used in such a fashion, and as opposed to submitting to the frustration and bitterness that can be born of such an experience, I choose to continue to love and educate instead. My brothers can be sensitized to women’s realities in Haiti and the world over if these are presented to them by using their own clashes with racism and oppression as a starting point.

They must be made to understand the dangerous likelihood of the oppressed becoming the oppressor if no shift in consciousnesses takes place and if no end to the cycle of trauma occurs. I intend to see that it does…by continuing to live and work fearlessly with justice in mind, through the creation of a safe space for women in Haiti and by creating programming for Haitian men that considers their needs, too. Weapons annihilate, dialogue bears fruit.

It’s the fruit I’m interested in now, no matter how strange or bruised it might appear.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: BubbaCat on October 16, 2012, 10:26:45 AM
(http://www.angryblackladychronicles.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Danger_Chimps.jpg)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on October 16, 2012, 01:18:16 PM
"Hmm yes if we just explain gender and marxist theory to a subhuman nigger with an iq of 74 they will realize that their actions are incorrect. "

 :christina:

There really ain't a goonsay big enough.  Is there a creature more delusional in the world than a fucking liberal?  "But I'm a Malcolm X Scholar" is the zaniest of catch phrases.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on October 16, 2012, 05:35:50 PM
He's been brought up to act like a bitch and it's no surprise that he's acting like a bitch. The real character test is how long it takes before he realises he can't carry on acting like a bitch.

Right after niggers get done yanking him out of his house and taking his loots, but then it'll be too late.

"B-b-b-but I wrote about you on my fashion blog on the internet!"
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on October 17, 2012, 06:20:31 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2012/10/ashley-greene-says-twilight-has-ruined-me/

Ashley Greene is a Gen Y actress from the Twilight movies. She wasn't born into celebrity, her father was an ex Marine who owns a concrete business. She wasn't a child star who grew up in Hollywood, though she did move there when she was 17 to be a star. To her credit, it worked. She hasn't done a whole helluva lot besides Twilight though and she's a bit worried about how to make ends meet with those movies ending:

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With the end of the “Twilight” saga in sight, Ashley, who plays Alice Cullen, realizes it’s important to be smart about her finances.

“I’m lucky because my dad taught me to be frugal and save,” she said.

So far, so good. It's smart not to blow all your money on stupid shit when you suddenly become rich. It's good to admit...
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...that getting the VIP treatment has its downsides.

“‘Twilight’ has ruined me,” she said. When this is all over, flying internationally is going to be very hard for me. It is just not worth it to buy a first-class ticket, because of the cost.”
:reagan:

She recognizes that it's dumb to spend your money on frivolous things just because you have it now, and you should save.  :swanson: would approve.

Except one little thing:
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I’m lucky because my dad taught me to be frugal and save. And that’s important because I want to know that I don’t have to take an acting job for two or three years if I don’t want to and that I’ll still be able to make my house and car payments and buy food for my dogs.

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I want to know that I don’t have to take an acting job for two or three years if I don’t want to
:rock:

So basically she wants to save her money so that she can stop working for 3 years if she doesn't feel like it and still live an upper middle class lifestyle in Hollywood. All the things you and I have to work 40-60 hours a week to afford, like food, shelter, a car, she just wants to be able to have but not have to work for.

Because see, she moved out to Hollywood when she was 17 and she knows all these famous people she met on Twilight. She sees how they live. And she's got bank from the first 5 movies or however many there were and hasn't had to work much since, so she's digging the idea of having a day structured around waking up around 10am, eating yogurt, going for a jog with the dog, meeting a friend for lunch, afternoon pilates, shopping, etc. Why break that up with work? Nobody she know is working all the time!

I get that being an actor is different from my job. And not all actors are lazy assholes.  :johnwayne:,  :bronson:, and  :clint: were/are all actors. And it's a difficult lifestyle to juggle. You've got to work for a day or two or a week or two or a month or two and get that payday and live off that for the rest of the year. You might go months without working. That can be a logistical challenge.

But why the fuck would you, an up and coming actor who is in a series of hit movies, decide to not "take an acting job for two or three years"? Is it because the parts are beneath you? Why not ride your fame into a bigger career...use it before you lose it?

Can you imagine a baseball player who just was on a World Series team "taking 2-3 years off" and expecting to just come back and retain that momentum? :tuss:

But then, Gen Y.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on October 17, 2012, 06:52:43 PM
That might depend on the context and tone it was said in though. You might catch me saying something similar - not because I want to quit work for 2-3 years, but because I like to have money in the bank that would last me that long hypothetically. I wouldn't phrase it like that though.

Maybe I'm being too positive here.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Rocket on October 17, 2012, 09:24:32 PM
I work in the industry tangentially. She might mean that it could be that long before a role comes up that she should take. She can go the way of Jennifer Anniston or Matt LeBlanc. You can't take every shit job that comes down the line. You ruin your name.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: BubbaCat on October 18, 2012, 11:22:59 AM
But then, Gen Y.

I read it more like how my Grandparents were.  They were kids during the depression and learned to save for when the bottom drops out.  For example, my great aunt was a kid during the depression, she had no money for college (plus she was a woman after all. back then you went to school to be a secretary and received approval from society), and she took a job as an accounting clerk in the 1930's.  Worked with the government in that path for her whole life, retired at 65, and lived til 90.  She had a few hundred grand left when she passed.  She had not worked in a quarter century, and made a small salary her whole life, but she was frugal and invested.  Not a cat lady, and lived nicely.  Repeat the same for her sister, my grandmother... worked for Illinois Bell her whole life.  Started as a switchboard operator.  Retired in the 80's at 67 an some clerical job with the Bell, and lived to 90 like her sister.  Bought a house with cash in AZ at 69 years old, and lived off of her stock dividends and social security in an upscale retirement community in single family homes at the base of the Catalina Mountains.  My great aunt never married.  So no, did did it on her own.  My grandmother was divorced in her early forties and had only what she went into the marriage with.  Never remarried.  So sweat of a man does not play into it.

I can repeat this story with just about any relative born into the depression.  They amaze me.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: LITERALLY A RAPIST on October 18, 2012, 11:30:32 AM
chances are their dream jobs weren't being accountants, clerks, or secretaries but they did it anyway because hey it's a living. in contrast, you've got the dregs of today who ~~~follow their dreams~~~ into being the next walter kronkite and getting a degree in journalism despite the blogosphere single-handedly destroying it. rather than do something like say accounting and have a reporting blog on the side, oh no it's all or nothing.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Rocket on October 18, 2012, 12:18:20 PM
A friend left his girlfriend because she wanted a career as a "fashion blogger." He's doing a better job raising their daughter than she is.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on October 18, 2012, 10:10:49 PM
chances are their dream jobs weren't being accountants, clerks, or secretaries but they did it anyway because hey it's a living. in contrast, you've got the dregs of today who ~~~follow their dreams~~~ into being the next walter kronkite and getting a degree in journalism despite the blogosphere single-handedly destroying it. rather than do something like say accounting and have a reporting blog on the side, oh no it's all or nothing.

To be fair to Gen Y, and yes sometimes even I will do that, the modern equivalent of those jobs...accountants, clerks, secretaries...that you could do with a small amount of training and then get a full time living wage on, don't exist today. Most jobs today are part time with zero bennies. A lot of full time jobs that college grads can get pay under $25k and can't approach giving them enough to pay back their massive loans on.

Of course, going to school to be a blogger or women's studies major when you grow up doesn't help things either. But parents, guidance counselors, and the for profit college machine are still pushing kids to go waste 4-6 years and $30-$100k on masturbatory degrees in "whatever you want because you can be whatever you want to be." Like choosing a career is like picking a Halloween costume.

Hell, a couple days ago you had  :obammy: at that debate telling some college kid who was legit afraid he had wasted the last few years and tons of money because he wouldn't get a job that no, you did the right thing investing in college! We need everyone to go to college! :tuss:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: BubbaCat on October 19, 2012, 12:51:38 PM
the modern equivalent of those jobs...accountants, clerks, secretaries...that you could do with a small amount of training and then get a full time living wage on, don't exist today.

I'll give you that.  A a single scanner, printer, and laptop (for processing power) have replaced floors and floors of clerks.  Must of those jobs were to move paper, which really don't exist anymore.  Even tellers are being phased out by smartphones.

Fun fact which none of you could give a shit less about:  I started a part time job at 15 working for the largest bank in the midwest at the time.  I wore a smock prevent wearing the carbon paper that was used for everything.  I processed credit car payments by hand.  There was only a single CRT terminal for each team, and we got to smoke at our desks all day long.  What smoke break?  Pssht. :smug:  The data center was all tape and require hand mounting.  And the printing was done on sight by a massive (25 foot long and six foot tall) lazer printer that "spit" the letters on the page.  About 500 employees at the time.  All of them replaced by machines by 1994.

And I am not that old.  Still in my thirties. :myecred:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on October 01, 2013, 11:06:30 AM
Thought I'd dredge up this old chestnut of a thread for a new relevant thing I done seen. It was on Jezebel, on some article about a kid who quit her job by making a lulzy video (she quit because it wasn't "fulfilling" anymore).
http://jezebel.com/woman-quits-job-in-the-most-awesome-and-meta-way-ever-1428793383?utm_source=recirculation&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=monday

This is from the comments:
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Adultism (prejudice and discrimination against young people) is one of the few acceptable forms of oppression and discrimination left in our society and I'm seeing it rampant here. Knocking/mocking this person's experience ("it's only been two years, pah!"), 'oldsplaining' (like mansplaining, but when an older person talks down to a younger person as if they don't know anything), just flat out insulting her because of her demographic... these are all tactics that invalidate her lived experience and that would be out of line if, say, they were about her being female. Kinda rude and shitty. Just sayin.

lol what?

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Yeah it's something I was tuned into when I worked at a youth development non-profit and it was pretty eye-opening. A primer: https://youthbuild.org/sites/youthbui... <— that's written more about teenagers rather than young adults, but the idea is still the same. It's acceptable to talk down to young people in a way that would be unacceptable if you were addressing a peer.

https://youthbuild.org/sites/youthbuild.org/files/kb_item/2011/11/792/UnderstandingAdultism.pdf

:clint:

So now your experience means nothing, and it's not supposed to give you any advantages over the vibrant YOUNG. How dare you talk to them from a position of respect and knowledge?

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god i hope this is real. and i hope that she doesn't get shat on for doing this, and i hope that ONE DAY MY LITTLE CHILDREN WILL WORK IN A JOB NOT DEFINED BY THE SHITTY ECONOMY BUT BY THE PASSION IN THEIR HEARTS (i mean me. i'm talking about me.)
:judy:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Aran on October 01, 2013, 02:45:56 PM
I just want to punch every teenager I meet. Is that too much to ask?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 40k Scrotal Sacks on October 01, 2013, 03:15:27 PM
Teenagers aren't even GenY anymore I believe. It's roughly 81-90.

But punching teens is always advised, regardless of their generation.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Aran on October 01, 2013, 03:26:49 PM
Teenagers aren't even GenY anymore I believe. It's roughly 81-90.

But punching teens is always advised, regardless of their generation.

Still teens to me.

(And I was born in '86. I was raised by my grandparents; I don't relate to people my age when they talk about all this fucking participation trophy, arranged playdates bullshit)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: deeply jewish kind of pervert on October 01, 2013, 03:44:45 PM
So is any kind of advice automatically condescending now? Adultism. Jesus Christ.  :tuss:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: SSOUL TRANN on October 01, 2013, 04:36:53 PM
It's pronounced Generation Whine.

Can't believe no one mentioned that in 3 pages  :depressedlesbian:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: MY FURSONOUNS on October 01, 2013, 07:06:04 PM
this is what happens when social promotion and participation ribbons are the norm

look upon what you have wrought, america   :bieber: :bieber: :bieber: :bieber: :bieber: :bieber:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on October 01, 2013, 07:15:17 PM
Participation trophies and playdates is much more of a mid 90's thing. Unless you were born after 1990 you probably didn't encounter much of either.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Frond Desert on October 01, 2013, 07:38:19 PM
How old are you fuckers? Am I the only person in their 20s here?

Edit: besides Aran, who doesn't count
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on October 01, 2013, 07:55:10 PM
we got plenty of peeps in their 20s but this is the old people whine thread
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Aran on October 01, 2013, 08:01:13 PM
How old are you fuckers? Am I the only person in their 20s here?

Edit: besides Aran, who doesn't count

Hi!
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on October 01, 2013, 08:01:33 PM
http://www.salon.com/2010/03/16/hipsters_food_stamps_pinched/

Here is a good article for the thread.  Hipsters on food stamps and how best to eat gourmet foods while living off the government dime.  Here is a nice quote from the article.

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Magida, a 30-year-old art school graduate, had been installing museum exhibits for a living until the recession caused arts funding — and her usual gigs — to dry up. She applied for food stamps last summer, and since then she’s used her $150 in monthly benefits for things like fresh produce, raw honey and fresh-squeezed juices from markets near her house in the neighborhood of Hampden, and soy meat alternatives and gourmet ice cream from a Whole Foods a few miles away.

“I’m eating better than I ever have before,” she told me. “Even with food stamps, it’s not like I’m living large, but it helps.”

Mak, 31, grew up in Westchester, graduated from the University of Chicago and toiled in publishing in New York during his 20s before moving to Baltimore last year with a meager part-time blogging job and prospects for little else. About half of his friends in Baltimore have been getting food stamps since the economy toppled, so he decided to give it a try; to his delight, he qualified for $200 a month.

“I’m sort of a foodie, and I’m not going to do the ‘living off ramen’ thing,” he said, fondly remembering a recent meal he’d prepared of roasted rabbit with butter, tarragon and sweet potatoes. “I used to think that you could only get processed food and government cheese on food stamps, but it’s great that you can get anything.”

Think of it as the effect of a grinding recession crossed with the epicurean tastes of young people as obsessed with food as previous generations were with music and sex. Faced with lingering unemployment, 20- and 30-somethings with college degrees and foodie standards are shaking off old taboos about who should get government assistance and discovering that government benefits can indeed be used for just about anything edible, including wild-caught fish, organic asparagus and triple-crème cheese.

Can't you just taste that fucking entitlement complex on these two?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: High Impact Sexbot 2020 on October 01, 2013, 08:07:04 PM
Im still just in my twenties and the gulf between me and 4-5 year juniors is huge. The poz. The poz.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Stroker Ace on October 01, 2013, 08:08:59 PM
I'm fairly fucking young, especially compared to some of you geriatrics, and can vouch for the participation trophy bullshit not being an exaggeration.  I played hockey for a while and really never could skate worth a damn, so I was basically just put in to goon it up on D.  If you went into my parents' house though you'd think Wayne Gretzky himself grew-up there with the amount of trophies I got. 

There's two major interrelated problems with gen y in my experience.  First there's the whole mentality of going to college for ~my dream job~. Here's a tip, just about everybody likes to watch movies and write stories. However, unless you are insanely talented spending 60k to do so is a giant waste.

The other problem is the angry, entitled nerds. Just because you got good grades at West Bumblefuck High doesn't mean you can make bank doing whatever the hell you feel like. I consistently run into these bitter assholes that treat high school like some weird kind of purgatory. They got decent grades and were miserable while those damn jocks drank and got pussy, so now it's their time to shine.  Real life isn't a series of checks and balances though. And those jocks actually learned networking and social skills which I'm discovering is more and more invaluable every day.

When I was applying to college my mom and dad told me to not bother unless I did STEM or got into a highly ranked business school. If more parents were willing to real-talk their kids goon would be a dying race.

jesus look at this big gay effortpost
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on October 01, 2013, 08:38:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIYB9sC_kZo

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: DangerClose on October 01, 2013, 09:54:59 PM
lol hilarious how Gen Xers certainly live up to their stereotype of being bitter assholes.

Still find GenXers more tolerable than Gen Y however.

The other problem is the angry, entitled nerds. Just because you got good grades at West Bumblefuck High doesn't mean you can make bank doing whatever the hell you feel like. I consistently run into these bitter assholes that treat high school like some weird kind of purgatory. They got decent grades and were miserable while those damn jocks drank and got pussy, so now it's their time to shine.  Real life isn't a series of checks and balances though. And those jocks actually learned networking and social skills which I'm discovering is more and more invaluable every day.
like literally everyone I considered a jock from my high school is either homeless and crazy, or fat/bald in a dead-end low-paying blue collar job with 2 shitty kids and a wife they hate at the age of 30-33 somehow.

The nerds didn't all fare better though. One nerd I was passing friends with went completely batshit insane and last time I saw him he was filing a lawsuit against the entire county government and like 100 other random people, and had 4 "emergency detentions" because he threatened to shoot up the college he got a worthless Bio degree from. Another went into the army, got sent to Iraq, then came back and murdered his friend in a PTSD moment and is now in prison.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Fade to Vanilla on October 02, 2013, 02:55:21 AM
oh lordy, where do i begin?  i think prolly with the "oh woe is me, i'm in the first cohort this has ever happened to..."

from da OP


Quote from: Blue Pony" post="401306839
I have never known privilege, I thought was told, like many other young americans, that taking out huge loans to pay for college was the right thing to do, and that I would immediately get a job after school and pay it off for the rest of my life.

The the economy imploded on itself and that all became a lie. I'm all on my own now and have to make my own way, without help from my family or my government. I want to see the world even though I'm so poor that $300 a month for rent is obscene to me. I've seen too many 50 year old women at my shitty fast food jobs who wasted their lives believing that things would get better if they just stayed put.

shitthatdidn'thappen.txt. 

listen, toots,  you were warned about school loans, you just didn't listen.  i know because my generation (X)  was warned about excessive school loans. too, and it likely happened to the cohort the decade before me as well.

what was different for you?  you were advised early and often that art/media/social sciences were high-investment, low-return careers long before you hit university. i didn't get that talk before i applied to school, but it didn't matter since I went engineering anyways.  regardless, we were all advised to make a smart choice of majors, or else crushing loan debt would follow us for decades.

anecdote 1: over my time at college, i lived with 4 different guys who graduated in media/journalism programs. today: 1 sells insurance, 1 teaches history at a catholic high school, 1 is a carpenter and the last actually works for a publisher, but in elementary school book sales. 

edit: now that i think about it, not one of the 4 of them took out any loans; their tuition was all paid for by their parents.  I supposed that helped thm make their choices for major.


two, the myth of Gen Y as independent workers


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Generation Y: They've arrived at work with a new attitude
They're young, smart, brash. They may wear flip-flops to the office or listen to iPods at their desk. They want to work, but they don't want work to be their life.
Get ready, because this generation — whose members have not yet hit 30 — is different from any that have come before, according to researchers and authors such as Bruce Tulgan, a founder of New Haven, Conn.-based RainmakerThinking, which studies the lives of young people.
Unlike the generations that have gone before them, Gen Y has been pampered, nurtured and programmed with a slew of activities since they were toddlers, meaning they are both high-performance and high-maintenance, Tulgan says. They also believe in their own worth.

"Generation Y is much less likely to respond to the traditional command-and-control type of management still popular in much of today's workforce," says Jordan Kaplan, an associate managerial science professor at Long Island University-Brooklyn in New York. "They've grown up questioning their parents, and now they're questioning their employers. They don't know how to shut up, which is great, but that's aggravating to the 50-year-old manager who says, 'Do it and do it now.' "

That speak-your-mind philosophy makes sense to Katie Patterson, an assistant account executive at Edelman Public Relations in Atlanta. The 23-year-old, who hails from Iowa and now lives with two roommates in a town home, likes to collaborate with others, and says many of her friends want to run their own businesses so they can be independent.

"We are willing and not afraid to challenge the status quo," she says. "An environment where creativity and independent thinking are looked upon as a positive is appealing to people my age. We're very independent and tech savvy.

This is complete and utter bullshit.  They're about the furthest thing from independent thinkers.  They were raised on consensus and group think.  Not one of them will make a move if it doesn't poll well with their  Facebook/Twitter crue.  It's a very Asian style of thinking and I see it everywhere here.

What they are is "unafraid of making mistakes" because they think that they could not possibly be wrong in the first place. 

Anecdote 2: I have a young female engineer working for me, 23 years old with a Ivy league engineering background.  I asked her to revise a document for me, one in which I had made a mistake.  She asked me about my mistake and I pointed out my own mistake as well as several of her own and told her, "Just fix it all."  She ran back to her desk and proceeded to avoid me for 2 weeks.  WTF?

Anecdote 3: I do a fair amount of work with the local universities, including teaching and mentoring engineering students on how to start their own companies.  At a recent job fair, where I spoke to an auditorium group of about 300 people regarding opportunities in my industry. After, I had a ring of people around me asking questions.  By far, the two most common questions were:

"How do I become an entrepreneur?"
"How do I become a manager in 3 years"

These were fresh graduates, mind you. Zero work experience.  Aside from putting the cart before the horse, all of them somehow missed the part of my talk where I spoke of putting in 9 years of work, in entry and low-level jobs before working my way up to a point where I would actually have responsibility for a project, let alone manage other people.

Anecdote 4: I had a really bright and attractive local girl working for me a few years back.  It was her first job out of school, although she had done an internship in the US for 9 months.  She did good work and stayed for about 2 years before she went back for a "prestigious" exchange program.  Before she left, I told her that she would be ready for mid-level engineering work, but not prepared for management responsibilities.  She didn't listen. After that she came back to work through the university, trying to do my job for the university in a tech incubator program.

Now she begs me to give her help because she doesn't know what she's doing because she didn't stay in industry long enough and I give her little pity consulting work for free.  It's a case of "I taught her everything she knows, but I didn't teach her everything I know".

tl;dr: despite making horrible, unrealistic choices, and then completely overestimating their own capabilities, the cherry on the top of the Gen Y shit sundae is that they want the rewards without putting in the work.  as a result, I will have good career options until I am on my deathbed.

lol hilarious how Gen Xers certainly live up to their stereotype of being bitter assholes.

there's nothing bitter about it.  gen Y thinks they're that smart.  gen X has already been down that road and shakes their head that the entire of generation Y's claim to fame is that they can use an IPad.

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 40k Scrotal Sacks on October 02, 2013, 03:30:04 AM
On the topic of workplace behavior: I see nothing inherently wrong with wanting a job that isn't dull as shit and pays reasonably well. Except, in the current ~economic climate~ that shouldn't be the No.1 priority.

I'm almost 25, so I'm smack in the middle of GenY. Reading this thread makes me feel better about myself though.  :unparsons:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on October 02, 2013, 02:37:32 PM
shitthatdidn'thappen.txt. 

listen, toots,  you were warned about school loans, you just didn't listen.  i know because my generation (X)  was warned about excessive school loans. too, and it likely happened to the cohort the decade before me as well.

I'm Gen Y and I was definitely told that the loans didn't matter from multiple sources. They obviously didn't mean $100k in loans is fine, but $40,000 to $50,000 was definitely in the "whatever it takes" range.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danger-Weiner on October 02, 2013, 06:41:01 PM
i turn 26 in a month

genuinely surprised that randbot and aran aren't in their 30's :stare:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: High Impact Sexbot 2020 on October 02, 2013, 06:44:39 PM
Gimme  four months  :depressedlesbian:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Rocket on October 02, 2013, 06:52:30 PM
I'm 73.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on October 02, 2013, 07:15:31 PM
I'm 73.

I think that still only makes you the second oldest here
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on October 02, 2013, 08:58:25 PM
Still in my 20s.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: MassiveMilitant on October 02, 2013, 09:40:09 PM
I find myself unable to connect with someone who was not at least in high school when 9/11 happened.

Not just because it was a world changing event in many ways, its useful as a time reference for the end of a certain period of American life. In 2001 a young teen probably didnt have a cell phone. There was no social network outside your neighborhood. The behaviors of children and teens that shape them into adults were relatively unchanged from the previous generations.

One prime example of this was the need to call a friend on a land line - often you would have to speak with your friend's parents for a moment. This was totally normal, you'd call them Mrs (they were real cis women) and be polite while they found your friend. You had to leave your comfort zone and become a more formal person for a moment. Something that the adult world expects from most of us at least 40 hours a week.  I feel the lack of this type of social interaction between the generations has helped fuel the arrogance and entitlement.

The recent movie 21 Jump Street with Tatum and Fats did a good job of showing some of the change between pre 9/11 times and now. The scene where jock tatum gets humiliated in front of the hipster kids was hilarious and a little sad.

I imagine a high school where a teenager cannot call another teenager a fag and laugh at him without being sent to bully re-education and I weep.

The degeneration continues.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on October 02, 2013, 10:59:47 PM
Nothing, even this degeneracy, lasts forever.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: woulduliketonomoar on October 03, 2013, 08:04:57 AM
FAGGY EFFORTPOST WARNING

I'm 28 and most of the people I know my age are deadbeats.

I think the problem comes down to every Gen Y (or Gen Whine or Gen XL, take your pick) had so much smoke blown up their asses in school that they don't see it any other way.  While my school didn't do the participation trophy thing, we were told that we were going to take over the world, and everyone better look out.  Furthermore, this was in the early 2000s when the economy was roaring, the Dow was going to be 36,000, and we were going to be the richest, most successful generation ever!  Then some of us went to college and right around the time we graduated, the economy turned to shit.

At that moment, we realized that Sociology majors weren't going to make $65,000 a year out of school at all.  If they got a job, they would get $25,000 a year.  Not enough to buy Manolo shoes, not enough to put down a down payment on a new Mustang GT, nothing.  Some adjusted their expectations and some, those clearly who bought into the hype, stood there crying and pouting.  They were told that they were the most important group of people ever and how dare the world not open up their collective wallets to them.  If I had a dollar for every time I heard "Well, I went to college, I shouldn't have to get a job doing <fast food, retail, etc.>", I could retire right now.  So most just kind of sat back and waited for those magical jobs to fly down.  Even worse, you still have people peddling the bullshit myth that this generation is going to be _the_ generation, often on clickbait left wing articles that most people my age will read multiple times, which strengthens their internalized belief that they are entitled.  Which is why you see so much "Old people need to retire so we can take over" as if there aren't motherfuckers in their 30s, 40s, and 50s who will take over instead.  So when those old people do retire and it's the Gen X people taking over, we'll see more bitching and whining.

I hope future generations will start to curb this bullshit but I don't think so.  I think entitlement is easy to peddle and doesn't offend anyone, except old white men who just need to get out of the way, amirite?  That will sure to cause a wellspring of prosperity, even though in an era where there are more women and minorities in positions of power, we're also in deeper debt than ever before, continual congressional gridlock with record low approval ratings, and more consumer debt than ever.  There is so much being tied up in the "WHITE CIS MALES" bullshit that there is no positive endgame.  In fact, I doubt we'll ever see the 90s/early-mid 2000s era prosperity ever again; the current zeitgeist won't allow it when more attention is spent raking someone over the coals on Twitter for saying there are more men who take an interest in math than women.  We seem more focused towards an angry feminist version of progressive equality over liberty or prosperity.  It's going to really start sucking for boys growing up in the system but the good news is that things are going to be shitty for everyone.

tl;dr version - We're all fucked.  The sooner people realize this, the better off because at least you can prepare.  We'll see a man tax before we'll ever see the national debt paid down.

Don't worry. Future generations will cause a course correction. The Gen Xers like myself, who have kids grew up in the shitty early 80s and remember how the economy effected their lives as a child. They are raising their kids with much of the austerity of their own youth. Notice it's usually the Gen Xers who remain successful in this economy, beating out Gen whine in the marketplace.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on October 03, 2013, 08:52:16 AM
I want to believe that, but I can't ignore Gen X's culpability in raising Gen Y and Gen Z. Though I do feel that knowing grandparents who grew up in the Depression and fought in WWII gives me a tougher perspective. I just question how much my peers are forwarding that to their kids.

I was reading a story about how some school suspended a little kid for pointing his finger like a gun under the rules of "Zero Tolerance." Besides the usual thoughts of how wrong that was, I got a sense too of just how alien that world is to me.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Spazzard on October 03, 2013, 09:37:02 AM
I'm 73.

Congratulations, your Viral load is in Magic Johnson territory.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on October 03, 2013, 09:58:51 AM
Early 30s :coolmad:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Slacktivist on October 03, 2013, 12:02:59 PM
Nothing, even this degeneracy, lasts forever.

Quote from: woulduliketonomoar
Don't worry. Future generations will cause a course correction. The Gen Xers like myself, who have kids grew up in the shitty early 80s and remember how the economy effected their lives as a child. They are raising their kids with much of the austerity of their own youth. Notice it's usually the Gen Xers who remain successful in this economy, beating out Gen whine in the marketplace.

Only thing that really worries me is the x-factor of the internet. I think we'll see a self-correcting bump in 10-30 years when all the real fuck-ups who are too anxious to hold jobs have to deal with their parents dying. It'll be the weirdest surge of homeless autistic freaks ever seen. But there's also a strong chance I think that we're gonna start seeing some concentrated fuck-ups. You're gonna have two pear-shaped pozzed retards baking into their poor kid all kinds of shit and it's gonna compound and get worse and worse.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on October 03, 2013, 12:14:34 PM
Nothing, even this degeneracy, lasts forever.

Quote from: woulduliketonomoar
Don't worry. Future generations will cause a course correction. The Gen Xers like myself, who have kids grew up in the shitty early 80s and remember how the economy effected their lives as a child. They are raising their kids with much of the austerity of their own youth. Notice it's usually the Gen Xers who remain successful in this economy, beating out Gen whine in the marketplace.

Only thing that really worries me is the x-factor of the internet. I think we'll see a self-correcting bump in 10-30 years when all the real fuck-ups who are too anxious to hold jobs have to deal with their parents dying. It'll be the weirdest surge of homeless autistic freaks ever seen. But there's also a strong chance I think that we're gonna start seeing some concentrated fuck-ups. You're gonna have two pear-shaped pozzed retards baking into their poor kid all kinds of shit and it's gonna compound and get worse and worse.

To make it worse, the Baby Boom generation has no savings and nothing to pass on to their children and grandchildren after they die.  I can't tell you how many baby boomer parents I see hitting their mid 60's and blowing all the children's inheritance on vacations and what not.

Gen X/Y kids living at home with their parents well into their early 30's is pretty common these days.  Then eventually mom and dad* kick them out and sell the house that the children were hoping to inherit so they can buy a 2 bed condo in Florida and spend the last of their savings sitting on the beach.


* Oh who am I kidding.  Mom AND Dad?  Over half these baby boomers are divorced.  More like Step-Mom and Dad.


Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: marlon perkins on October 03, 2013, 12:18:04 PM
I'm 44.

:hank:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: White Power Superhero on October 03, 2013, 12:34:05 PM
I find myself unable to connect with someone who was not at least in high school when 9/11 happened.

Not just because it was a world changing event in many ways, its useful as a time reference for the end of a certain period of American life. In 2001 a young teen probably didnt have a cell phone. There was no social network outside your neighborhood. The behaviors of children and teens that shape them into adults were relatively unchanged from the previous generations.

I was in the fourth grade when 9/11 happened, and I'm somewhere in a painful middle of what you're describing. I was young enough to actually fall into the Myspace trap in 2005 at 14, but I was still able to maintain my distance from things like Twitter and Facebook, etc. As a kid I never thought things would get this way. Especially in dealing with high school students through my volunteer work, and college students on campus, I feel like I am definitely WAY more disconnected from everything than my peers and those slightly younger.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on October 03, 2013, 02:18:46 PM
That's pretty common among the youngun's here; they don't feel the same as the rest of their generation. Which of course shows that stereotypes are never 100%. I personally believe there are pozzed and hardened up people in every generation. The problem is the pozz gets greater and greater over time. I mean, there were probably some slackers in The Greatest Generation. Those beatniks had to come from somewhere. And the Boomers are pretty narcissistic and pozzed--they invented the Me Generation concept and grew up on tv. But most of them were raised by :clint: types so they at least know they are wrong and there's a lot that have values. Gen X had grandparents who were hardened the fuck up so we could at least learn from them, but we were the last generation to play outside without bubblewrap, riding our bikes far from home, rusty playground equipment, no participation ribbons. We remember the analog world. But we were pretty coddled by the Boomers so we're like half pozzed. Gen Y is like 75% pozzed--post 9/11, grew up online, 500 tv stations, the cult of the self. Z is like 90% pozzed, the kids growing up now. They have no hope, unless the economy forces otherwise.

For reference, I'm late 30s.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on October 03, 2013, 02:28:24 PM

Don't worry. Future generations will cause a course correction. The Gen Xers like myself, who have kids grew up in the shitty early 80s and remember how the economy effected their lives as a child. They are raising their kids with much of the austerity of their own youth. Notice it's usually the Gen Xers who remain successful in this economy, beating out Gen whine in the marketplace.
Generation X got massacred during the recession, and they're most likely going to be worse off when it comes to retirement than the boomers somehow.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on October 03, 2013, 02:32:16 PM

Don't worry. Future generations will cause a course correction. The Gen Xers like myself, who have kids grew up in the shitty early 80s and remember how the economy effected their lives as a child. They are raising their kids with much of the austerity of their own youth. Notice it's usually the Gen Xers who remain successful in this economy, beating out Gen whine in the marketplace.
Generation X got massacred during the recession, and they're most likely going to be worse off when it comes to retirement than the boomers somehow.

Gen X is for sure the first generation in American history that will end up being worse off than their parents.  Not by tons, but on average they will definitely be less wealthy.  Gen Y will be waaaay worse off.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mullah Omar on October 04, 2013, 07:07:26 PM
I wish I wasn't born into Gen Y
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: a torrent of piss on October 04, 2013, 08:57:49 PM
I wish I wasn't born into Gen Y
It's not that bad, if you don't have a sense of entitlement, are willing to work, and know how to write a resume you'll have next to no competition
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Aran on October 04, 2013, 09:33:55 PM
I wish I wasn't born
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mullah Omar on October 05, 2013, 02:42:17 AM
I wish I wasn't born into Gen Y
It's not that bad, if you don't have a sense of entitlement, are willing to work, and know how to write a resume you'll have next to no competition

Sadly, in this economic black hole I have to compete with over 1k applicants on some jobs. Now my forever increasing period of unemployment makes me more unemployable in the eyes of HR. Fuck.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 40k Scrotal Sacks on October 05, 2013, 04:27:37 AM
I wish I wasn't born into Gen Y
It's not that bad, if you don't have a sense of entitlement, are willing to work, and know how to write a resume you'll have next to no competition

In my experience, most HR departments are too retarded to recognize those traits in their applicants. They'd rather take the quirky female with a nice smile (Especially since HR is 80% women) than the down-to-earth, serious guy.

And then they complain about all their applicants turning out to be retards to the media.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on October 05, 2013, 05:07:57 AM
I wish I wasn't born into Gen Y
It's not that bad, if you don't have a sense of entitlement, are willing to work, and know how to write a resume you'll have next to no competition

Sadly, in this economic black hole I have to compete with over 1k applicants on some jobs. Now my forever increasing period of unemployment makes me more unemployable in the eyes of HR. Fuck.


Do what I did and find another country with a better economy and take their jobs
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on October 05, 2013, 11:46:36 AM
It's absurd how much power HR has in companys when everyone knows they're fucking worthless. Any moderately complicated process they fuck up horribly and have to pull in some other department that can actually think to solve the problem.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on October 05, 2013, 12:30:37 PM
Our HR department let you hire who you want and only get involved if you want to fire someone
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: LITERALLY A RAPIST on October 05, 2013, 02:24:12 PM
i've noticed that HR seems to be the place where affirmative action/diversity hires tend to get thrown. a company will look like it's 99% white and then bam HR office is all black disabled women
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on October 06, 2013, 01:55:40 PM
It's not limited to America either. I can't think of a single Chinese student I've seen that wasn't woefully fucked up. They're in such a culture shock of being away from home for the first time ever that they do nothing but try to recreate Little China - stick only with other Chinese, eat the same exact thing they ate back home, and refuse to integrate or adapt in any way. Getting stuck with a Chinese student for group work is the worst, because they don't give a fuck about their terrible English. I either have to sit there and get a C, or just delete their parts and write them myself.

Fuck Generation Y.

Foreign Gen Y students from East Asia have their own set of unique problems that make them also worthless, but in a different way.  They don't understand the value of communication at all, don't get critical thinking, and think cheating is a-okay in every aspect of life.  I had to work with some in my master's program in engineering and I ended up just doing the entire project myself because their english was terrible and they couldn't write a legible sentence to save their life.  Yeah, fuck this bullshit. 

I'd honestly rather deal with coddled Gen Y Western morons than the above.  I can change at least change these idiots into something worthwhile, but changing the above is outright impossible because the cultural differences make it futile to try. 
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on October 07, 2013, 01:16:37 AM
It's not limited to America either. I can't think of a single Chinese student I've seen that wasn't woefully fucked up. They're in such a culture shock of being away from home for the first time ever that they do nothing but try to recreate Little China - stick only with other Chinese, eat the same exact thing they ate back home, and refuse to integrate or adapt in any way. Getting stuck with a Chinese student for group work is the worst, because they don't give a fuck about their terrible English. I either have to sit there and get a C, or just delete their parts and write them myself.

Fuck Generation Y.

Foreign Gen Y students from East Asia have their own set of unique problems that make them also worthless, but in a different way.  They don't understand the value of communication at all, don't get critical thinking, and think cheating is a-okay in every aspect of life.  I had to work with some in my master's program in engineering and I ended up just doing the entire project myself because their english was terrible and they couldn't write a legible sentence to save their life.  Yeah, fuck this bullshit. 

I'd honestly rather deal with coddled Gen Y Western morons than the above.  I can change at least change these idiots into something worthwhile, but changing the above is outright impossible because the cultural differences make it futile to try.

this is so true

actually indians are even worse than chinese in my experience, because fuck, at least the chink does something (even if its bad). i had an assignment on an infrastructure project and some indian just copy pasted 3000 words about railways that wasnt even related to the project. we knew because 2 minutes in someone googled the first sentence of his piece and we found the website he copied it off - word for word.

then while we're trying to put it all together and edit the thing he fucks off to go get dinner and doesnt come back until 2 hours later.

and of all the time spent editing the piece, for the 3 white people - about 10 minutes each of proof-reading. for the indians? like 2 hours each of re-writing all their fucking shit.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on October 07, 2013, 07:38:36 AM
Indians also lie like fucking mattresses.  They'd rather lie than tell the truth even when the truth isn't bad.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: As a white male I on October 07, 2013, 09:14:46 AM
I did a thing. We were testing out some new lights at my studio, and I remembered this thread. So...

http://vimeo.com/76328545

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on October 07, 2013, 11:43:25 AM
I did a thing. We were testing out some new lights at my studio, and I remembered this thread. So...

http://vimeo.com/76328545

 :nixon:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Black Gardener on October 07, 2013, 02:49:08 PM
I did a thing. We were testing out some new lights at my studio, and I remembered this thread. So...

http://vimeo.com/76328545

Obama seal of approval, mane. :obama:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Procrustes on October 07, 2013, 04:10:30 PM
I did a thing. We were testing out some new lights at my studio, and I remembered this thread. So...

http://vimeo.com/76328545

Very nice work
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: MassiveMilitant on October 07, 2013, 09:05:59 PM
I did a thing. We were testing out some new lights at my studio, and I remembered this thread. So...

http://vimeo.com/76328545

This is awesome. 5 golden reagans for you my man.
 :reagan: :reagan: :reagan: :reagan::reagan:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on October 07, 2013, 09:52:42 PM
I did a thing. We were testing out some new lights at my studio, and I remembered this thread. So...

http://vimeo.com/76328545

This is awesome. 5 golden reagans for you my man.
 :reagan: :reagan: :reagan: :reagan::reagan:

:uaears:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Fade to Vanilla on October 07, 2013, 10:35:23 PM
I did a thing. We were testing out some new lights at my studio, and I remembered this thread. So...

http://vimeo.com/76328545

i was truly disappointed when there was no place for me to register my friend's son. 

otherwise, top notch work with the belt, mang!
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dental Grade Dildo on October 07, 2013, 11:22:15 PM
I did a thing. We were testing out some new lights at my studio, and I remembered this thread. So...

http://vimeo.com/76328545
We should have a frontpage for stuff like this.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: High Impact Sexbot 2020 on October 08, 2013, 12:41:40 AM
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Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 40k Scrotal Sacks on October 08, 2013, 04:06:06 AM
That is some amazing effort.  :nixon:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mullah Omar on October 08, 2013, 05:20:49 PM
I did a thing. We were testing out some new lights at my studio, and I remembered this thread. So...

http://vimeo.com/76328545

 :reagan:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: High Impact Sexbot 2020 on October 08, 2013, 10:13:56 PM
There's a front page?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: As a white male I on October 09, 2013, 04:44:28 AM
There's a front page?

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on October 09, 2013, 07:57:24 PM
looks like gen Y hipsters existed as far back as the 15/16th century

Quote
Hence arose many of those evils which usually result from peace; for the youth having become more dissolute than before, more extravagant in dress, feasting, and other licentiousness, and being without employment, wasted their time and means on gaming and women; their principal study being how to appear splendid in apparel, and attain a crafty shrewdness in discourse; he who could make the most poignant remark being considered the wisest, and being most respected.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on October 09, 2013, 10:27:17 PM
A huge difference though: gen y hipsters of the 15/16th century wasted their time on women; gen y hipsters of the 21st century are trying to be women.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on October 10, 2013, 01:23:40 AM
i regard the current state of affairs to be superior because they do not breed

italy in the renaissance however was a massive clusterfuck of battles with soldiers too scared to fight each other and people fagging out
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on October 11, 2013, 02:09:06 PM
looks like gen Y hipsters existed as far back as the 15/16th century

Quote
Hence arose many of those evils which usually result from peace; for the youth having become more dissolute than before, more extravagant in dress, feasting, and other licentiousness, and being without employment, wasted their time and means on gaming and women; their principal study being how to appear splendid in apparel, and attain a crafty shrewdness in discourse; he who could make the most poignant remark being considered the wisest, and being most respected.

Every society has its generation of hipsters every few decades.  It's pretty normal.  See beatniks from not even all that long ago.  Beatniks were hipster as fuck at the time.

Hell even Ceaser and Brutus and all them were pretty much hipsters of Rome at the time.  The older generations rolled their eyes at them constantly because they tried to dress all cool and hip with "loose fitting togas" and what not.  Basically the saggy pants of Roman times.

The problem with Gen Y is that modern technology and the wealth we still have left, actually allow them to be literally worthless instead of just pretending to be worthless.  In the old days there were actually things like going hungry and cold when you decided you didn't want a real job and just wanted to sleep in all day.  Today?  Not so much.

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on October 11, 2013, 03:45:37 PM
looks like gen Y hipsters existed as far back as the 15/16th century

Quote
Hence arose many of those evils which usually result from peace; for the youth having become more dissolute than before, more extravagant in dress, feasting, and other licentiousness, and being without employment, wasted their time and means on gaming and women; their principal study being how to appear splendid in apparel, and attain a crafty shrewdness in discourse; he who could make the most poignant remark being considered the wisest, and being most respected.

Every society has its generation of hipsters every few decades.  It's pretty normal.  See beatniks from not even all that long ago.  Beatniks were hipster as fuck at the time.

Hell even Ceaser and Brutus and all them were pretty much hipsters of Rome at the time.  The older generations rolled their eyes at them constantly because they tried to dress all cool and hip with "loose fitting togas" and what not.  Basically the saggy pants of Roman times.

The problem with Gen Y is that modern technology and the wealth we still have left, actually allow them to be literally worthless instead of just pretending to be worthless.  In the old days there were actually things like going hungry and cold when you decided you didn't want a real job and just wanted to sleep in all day.  Today?  Not so much.

"You are sentenced to Interdiction from Ipads and thrift stores"
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: floundering 2.wh0a on October 24, 2013, 04:01:05 AM
I've been unemployed for a while now.  Part of my job search process was getting a recruiter to help me look for work, but he rarely contacted me with anything.  Between that, and the lack of traction in my job search, the wife and I came to the conclusion I should consider looking for work in different parts of the country that're trying to court professionals and have lower cost of living.  I figured I could ask the recruiter to broaden his search to those places, and maybe he'd have more luck.  His response (paraphrasing):

"Sure, I can do that.  I do have these jobs in your area that I could submit you for though..."

When I asked why he didn't contact me with these jobs right off the bat, he replied that he didn't think I'd want them because they paid slightly less than what I said my ideal wage would be.

Note he didn't say it was below what I told him I would take.  He didn't bother contacting me because they paid below what I said my dream income would be.  What kind of motherfuckers do you deal with on a day to day basis that you assume I would rather be walking around handing my resume out to anyone with a pulse while our savings dwindle for just shy of half a year, instead of taking some honest fucking work, because it isn't my dream job?

Then I read a thread like this and realize he's probably dealing with a bunch of gen y's who think it's their right to have the perfect career and they'll just keep getting floater loans from their aging, overworked parents until they find the perfect six figure graphic design job.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mullah Omar on October 24, 2013, 08:11:54 AM
When you're asked what you want to be paid what they actually mean what is the bare minimum you will take. You have to make yourself what an employer wants... a cheap to pay work robot. Also are you in the UK? Sounds like the work programme. Which is shit. There is a person where I go who has been on it two years and hasn't managed to get a job yet, even though his CV is apparently fairly good.

Then you see these cunts who refuse jobs or say they wont work somewhere because they see themselves above it in other parts of the country where there is some work going. Sure, maybe you want to try get work in what your degree is in, but after a year its time to take what you can get for the time being.

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: floundering 2.wh0a on October 24, 2013, 11:56:08 AM
When you're asked what you want to be paid what they actually mean what is the bare minimum you will take. You have to make yourself what an employer wants... a cheap to pay work robot. Also are you in the UK? Sounds like the work programme. Which is shit. There is a person where I go who has been on it two years and hasn't managed to get a job yet, even though his CV is apparently fairly good.

Then you see these cunts who refuse jobs or say they wont work somewhere because they see themselves above it in other parts of the country where there is some work going. Sure, maybe you want to try get work in what your degree is in, but after a year its time to take what you can get for the time being.

I work in the states.  I don't know much about the UK's work program, outside of what The League of Gentlemen taught me, but what I'm talking about are placement services.  In case you don't have experience with them, they're a third party that helps finds you work, then you do contracted work through them for a company and, once your contract is up, the company has the option to hire your directly, at which point your salary jumps by a third, because the placement service is no longer taking their cut.  In theory, this works very well for everyone involved; it doesn't pan out so well when your recruiter is more interested in wowing you with an amazing job, instead of just finding you something that works.  Doubly so if he's trying to find you something in the part of the nation with the second highest unemployment and a paucity of well paying jobs.

But yeah, we specifically had a conversation where he asked how much I want and I said something along the lines of "Well, we can still make it with..." and he replies "No, don't tell me what you could take; tell me what you'd love to have." So I gave him the upper wage a guy in my career possessing my credentials could make, then added that I'd happily work for less.  He just ignored the second part, because it's less fun than living the dream of skyrocketing to yuppiedom.

Anyways, that's all that is.  I won't derail the gen y thread any more by complaining about my current status as a shiftless dirtbag.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: armchair nazi on October 25, 2013, 12:02:33 AM
he also probably gets paid a percentage of your salary, so he has an incentive to string you along to maximize his end payout
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 40k Scrotal Sacks on October 25, 2013, 12:11:42 AM
At least you guys have a decent shot at full employment. Here it's just minimum wage temp work. In fact, our social democrats fucked with welfare to create a low wage sector in the first place.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on October 25, 2013, 12:22:33 AM
he also probably gets paid a percentage of your salary, so he has an incentive to string you along to maximize his end payout

but if hes not getting paid the dude doesnt get his cut

anyway, im not unemployed but im underemployed and cant get enough hours, dirtbag crew assemble
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mullah Omar on October 25, 2013, 10:36:42 AM
At least you guys have a decent shot at full employment. Here it's just minimum wage temp work. In fact, our social democrats fucked with welfare to create a low wage sector in the first place.

Do you have zero hour contracts and all that bullshit?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: kosher nostra on October 25, 2013, 11:13:13 AM
All I hear are you has been gen x'ers complaining about how pozzed the next generation is. Did you ever think to look at your parents, Aunts, uncles, maybe older siblings? The only group of people responsible is the boomer generation. The worst of the worst, everything wrong with America can be traced back to them.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 40k Scrotal Sacks on October 25, 2013, 11:16:26 AM
At least you guys have a decent shot at full employment. Here it's just minimum wage temp work. In fact, our social democrats fucked with welfare to create a low wage sector in the first place.

Do you have zero hour contracts and all that bullshit?

Had to look that up; no we don't, thankfully. Not yet, anyway.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on October 25, 2013, 11:25:25 AM
All I hear are you has been gen x'ers complaining about how pozzed the next generation is. Did you ever think to look at your parents, Aunts, uncles, maybe older siblings? The only group of people responsible is the boomer generation. The worst of the worst, everything wrong with America can be traced back to them.

Truth.   It can all be traced back to the baby boom generation.  They are responsible for all of the current faggotry.

Most people are too young to know what the 70's were like.  You think today is pozzed?  Fuck man, the 70's were just as bad.  Fuck, the 70's were so god damn pozzed that there was actually a slight reactionary pullback in the 80's with some authentic HTFU vibes going on.  Of course it didn't last all that long and now we are totally fucked again.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Slacktivist on October 25, 2013, 11:27:48 AM
Much like the economy shit is fucked due to outside circumstances but the individual can HTFU and improve his personal circumstances.

Gen Y can blame the Boomers but at the end of the day Gen Y makes their own tumblr and posts in it.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mad at the Internet on October 25, 2013, 11:33:22 AM
at the end of the day Gen Y makes their own tumblr and posts in it.

 :nixon:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: kosher nostra on October 25, 2013, 11:53:39 AM
I never thought I would see the day were SS defends the generation responsible for hippies and equal rights for blacks, gays, muslims, the retards, jews and spics. Sad day for America.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: floundering 2.wh0a on October 25, 2013, 12:54:44 PM
All I hear are you has been gen x'ers complaining about how pozzed the next generation is. Did you ever think to look at your parents, Aunts, uncles, maybe older siblings? The only group of people responsible is the boomer generation. The worst of the worst, everything wrong with America can be traced back to them.

Truth.   It can all be traced back to the baby boom generation.  They are responsible for all of the current faggotry.


If you really want to take it back to its source, that blame can be laid at the feet of whichever nameless Madison Avenue ad guy woozily looked up from the pile of gin vomit cooling on his desk one afternoon with an expression of sudden financial satori and exclaimed "HOLY SHIT!  WE CAN MARKET DIRECTLY TO KIDS!"  Once people with money figured out they could make a whole lot more money by treating kids like they're the center of the world, all bets were off.  Boomers were the first generation completely obsessed with themselves to the exclusion of nearly all else, and it's because since they were in short pants media has told them they were special and amazing and for just $1.95 they could also have a hat with a propeller on it.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: BubbaCat on October 25, 2013, 02:07:43 PM
I never thought I would see the day were SS defends the generation responsible for hippies and equal rights for blacks, gays, muslims, the retards, jews and spics. Sad day for America.

I agree with you that the last true generation that deserves respect are those born in the Great Depression who went on to fight in WWII and Korea.  They brought us the most amazing scientific progress with slide rules and the computing power of a casio wrist watch.

But they were so hard that naturally, their children would rebel (the boomers).  Those boomers would spit out Gen X, who were raised by pussies, but had enough common sense to rebel (the pushback metioned from the 80s).  But then Gen X, who was never equipped with positive parenting role models, went on to spawn children, some of who are the older part of gen crY.  When you have an easy life filled with the bullshit policies like we don't keep score and everyone gets a trophy...
Well, this is the result of two successive generations without struggle and htfu.  The only thing that is going to fix this is a world war or disaster where the weakest get culled, and the weak get strong.

But what you are missing here, Doctor is this:

at the end of the day Gen Y makes their own tumblr and posts in it.

This is why the boomers and the x'ers are not taking too much flack.  They were not empowered to execute operation special snowflake.  But this generation is via mass media and mass social media.  Gen crY just doesn't know how to stfu.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on October 27, 2013, 04:07:46 AM
you can talk about all this generation shit but its all retarded, faggoty people have always existed, we're just more aware of them because they are on the internet now


and the greatest generation passed the new deal so fuck that shit
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danish Plastic Bigotry on October 29, 2013, 09:10:55 PM
I guess technology is mostly to blame, but at least the retarded faggots in the past had a choice: work, starve to death, or be some kind of house-kept weirdo that would still starve to death when mommy and daddy passed on.

There were still autistic lumps, but at least you could say "he's a weird fucker, good thing his job bagging groceries keeps him busy." Now we're expected to subsidize them for Steam accounts and feel bad for them on top of it. Bring back the dust bowl
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on October 31, 2013, 12:34:54 PM
All I hear are you has been gen x'ers complaining about how pozzed the next generation is. Did you ever think to look at your parents, Aunts, uncles, maybe older siblings? The only group of people responsible is the boomer generation. The worst of the worst, everything wrong with America can be traced back to them.

All of my family is conservative as hell and everyone works and is successful.  I cannot think of a single deadbeat in either mine or my wife's extended families.  Are there people who have had difficulties and shitty life situations?  Sure, but they picked their ass off the ground and made something out of their life.  Apparently spanking your kids and instilling proper discipline is a wonderful thing and actually raises kids to have a good work ethic. 

For instance, a cousin of my mom joined a Sex Cult called "The Family" (it makes Scientology look like a bunch of choir boys) with her now husband when she was in college.  They have had like 8 kids and all of the kids were systematically sexually abused from birth.  All of the kids are out of the cult now and some of the older kids have managed to get into college despite having no formal education at all.  Sadly it did cost the Oldest of the kids her marriage (she got married to a guy she met in college) because of the strain of having to help her siblings and give them a place to stay, but it's fucking amazing what happens if you put a little effort into life.

Basically, my family isn't the problem and they have always voted with Conservative principles.  My dad hates Obamacare so much that he adamantly turned down any and all subsidies with his health care bill and flat out refused to deal with the website and he fucking despises the fact that he is benefiting from it.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 40k Scrotal Sacks on October 31, 2013, 12:39:34 PM
What the fuck is this :eminem:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on October 31, 2013, 01:27:10 PM
All I hear are you has been gen x'ers complaining about how pozzed the next generation is. Did you ever think to look at your parents, Aunts, uncles, maybe older siblings? The only group of people responsible is the boomer generation. The worst of the worst, everything wrong with America can be traced back to them.

All of my family is conservative as hell and everyone works and is successful.  I cannot think of a single deadbeat in either mine or my wife's extended families.  Are there people who have had difficulties and shitty life situations?  Sure, but they picked their ass off the ground and made something out of their life.  Apparently spanking your kids and instilling proper discipline is a wonderful thing and actually raises kids to have a good work ethic. 

For instance, a cousin of my mom joined a Sex Cult called "The Family" (it makes Scientology look like a bunch of choir boys) with her now husband when she was in college.  They have had like 8 kids and all of the kids were systematically sexually abused from birth.  All of the kids are out of the cult now and some of the older kids have managed to get into college despite having no formal education at all.  Sadly it did cost the Oldest of the kids her marriage (she got married to a guy she met in college) because of the strain of having to help her siblings and give them a place to stay, but it's fucking amazing what happens if you put a little effort into life.

Basically, my family isn't the problem and they have always voted with Conservative principles.  My dad hates Obamacare so much that he adamantly turned down any and all subsidies with his health care bill and flat out refused to deal with the website and he fucking despises the fact that he is benefiting from it.

That's all well and good but if he really sticks with his principles he won't take medicare and SS when he retires, leaving it on you and your siblings to pay his way once he's too old to work or if he gets sick. And even if he decides to try and work past 65, eventually when he's 80 or something he won't be able to get full time work anymore.

My grandfather worked in a factory his whole life, got a pension, and took SS benefits and VA medical benefits. If my dad had to pay for that we'd still be paying for his last few operations and death expenses from 30 years ago.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Makedaddyfart on October 31, 2013, 02:24:29 PM
Yo I'm a millenial software programmer and I work from home 50% of the time and wear flip flops to the office unless there's a client meeting  :stewart:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on October 31, 2013, 11:06:54 PM
All I hear are you has been gen x'ers complaining about how pozzed the next generation is. Did you ever think to look at your parents, Aunts, uncles, maybe older siblings? The only group of people responsible is the boomer generation. The worst of the worst, everything wrong with America can be traced back to them.

All of my family is conservative as hell and everyone works and is successful.  I cannot think of a single deadbeat in either mine or my wife's extended families.  Are there people who have had difficulties and shitty life situations?  Sure, but they picked their ass off the ground and made something out of their life.  Apparently spanking your kids and instilling proper discipline is a wonderful thing and actually raises kids to have a good work ethic. 

For instance, a cousin of my mom joined a Sex Cult called "The Family" (it makes Scientology look like a bunch of choir boys) with her now husband when she was in college.  They have had like 8 kids and all of the kids were systematically sexually abused from birth.  All of the kids are out of the cult now and some of the older kids have managed to get into college despite having no formal education at all.  Sadly it did cost the Oldest of the kids her marriage (she got married to a guy she met in college) because of the strain of having to help her siblings and give them a place to stay, but it's fucking amazing what happens if you put a little effort into life.

Basically, my family isn't the problem and they have always voted with Conservative principles.  My dad hates Obamacare so much that he adamantly turned down any and all subsidies with his health care bill and flat out refused to deal with the website and he fucking despises the fact that he is benefiting from it.

That's all well and good but if he really sticks with his principles he won't take medicare and SS when he retires, leaving it on you and your siblings to pay his way once he's too old to work or if he gets sick. And even if he decides to try and work past 65, eventually when he's 80 or something he won't be able to get full time work anymore.

My grandfather worked in a factory his whole life, got a pension, and took SS benefits and VA medical benefits. If my dad had to pay for that we'd still be paying for his last few operations and death expenses from 30 years ago.

actually given the way SS has been sold to the american public he wouldnt be abandoning his principles by taking SS because hes been paying into it all his working life
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: internetinternetinternet on November 01, 2013, 12:32:37 AM
that's just a way for old white republicans to not feel hypocritical for taking welfare.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on November 01, 2013, 12:35:53 AM
republicans are in favor of keeping SS so :jesse:

also i don't really regard someone as a hypocrite or bad if they take welfare because they're just acting in their own best interest, welfare should not be offered because it will be taken
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: internetinternetinternet on November 01, 2013, 01:04:20 AM
i mean hypocritical in the obvious way that grandpa is when he complains about the coloreds on welfare and obamacare and then cashes in his social security and medicare checks.

and the establishment republicans are in favor of it because like all big social safety nets everyone who benefits from it is in favor of it, so they'd be unelectable nationally if they came out against it. that's what obamacare is going to be like in a few years.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Tariq Aziz on November 01, 2013, 04:44:30 AM
republicans are in favor of keeping SS so :jesse:

also i don't really regard someone as a hypocrite or bad if they take welfare because they're just acting in their own best interest, welfare should not be offered because it will be taken

More like, when the government offers substantial welfare to every mohammed, jamal en shaleep out there it will be abused by an overwhelming majority of lazy-ass sacks of shit instead of people for whom its meant: people inbetween jobs who want to make something of themselves and their lives in general.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on November 01, 2013, 09:20:08 AM
i mean hypocritical in the obvious way that grandpa is when he complains about the coloreds on welfare and obamacare and then cashes in his social security and medicare checks.

and the establishment republicans are in favor of it because like all big social safety nets everyone who benefits from it is in favor of it, so they'd be unelectable nationally if they came out against it. that's what obamacare is going to be like in a few years.

grandpa paid, what is it? a 6% (actually 12%) flat tax for 40-50 years of his working life with the promise that he'd get it back for retirement?

compared to niggers who never worked?

does not compute bro
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on November 01, 2013, 09:21:47 AM
i mean hypocritical in the obvious way that grandpa is when he complains about the coloreds on welfare and obamacare and then cashes in his social security and medicare checks.

and the establishment republicans are in favor of it because like all big social safety nets everyone who benefits from it is in favor of it, so they'd be unelectable nationally if they came out against it. that's what obamacare is going to be like in a few years.

grandpa paid, what is it? a 6% (actually 12%) flat tax for 40-50 years of his working life with the promise that he'd get it back for retirement?

compared to niggers who never worked?

does not compute bro

No you see if you don't think government should be an all encompassing leviathan you should never use roads or public utilities or anything otherwise you're a fucking hypocrite.  :tuss:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on November 01, 2013, 12:25:19 PM
republicans are in favor of keeping SS so :jesse:

also i don't really regard someone as a hypocrite or bad if they take welfare because they're just acting in their own best interest, welfare should not be offered because it will be taken

:judy: Not all Republicans are. I just saw a guy on FOX FIVE last night ranting about how they should get rid of SS. Some other Republican called it a "ponzi scheme" again the other day.

Sensible Republicans are for it, they see it as a necessary part of a balanced society, and that you can have it without being fully socialist. The more libertarians leaning ones want all government assistance eliminated in favor of bootstraps and church charities.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on November 01, 2013, 03:25:16 PM
how is it not a Ponzi scheme?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on November 01, 2013, 05:07:37 PM
how is it not a Ponzi scheme?

Why do I feel that's a loaded question designed for a clever rebuttal?  :bernanke:

How about the fact that there's not one guy sitting at the top of the pyramid skimming money off? It's not really a "scheme" or trick either--the govt and media have been pretty up front with people for years now that the money is running out and younger people won't get full benefits if it's not getting fixed. It would be different if they were promising us full benefits forever with no changes.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on November 01, 2013, 05:20:23 PM
how is it not a Ponzi scheme?

Why do I feel that's a loaded question designed for a clever rebuttal?  :bernanke:

How about the fact that there's not one guy sitting at the top of the pyramid skimming money off? It's not really a "scheme" or trick either--the govt and media have been pretty up front with people for years now that the money is running out and younger people won't get full benefits if it's not getting fixed. It would be different if they were promising us full benefits forever with no changes.

No one talks seriously about fixing SS and the media outlets that point out how SS is unsustainable get hand waved by the MSM who can only talk about how evil rethuglicans want grandma to starve and freeze in the dark.  Much like how Levin, Beck, and the rest of the alt conservative media were pointing out Obamacare's fatal flaws for years and got hand waved by the MSM until D Day and lo and behold they were right.

You can call it what you want but its basically wealth transfer horseshit where Im subsidizing boomers who ride around in their giant RVs with bumper stickers bragging about spending the kids inheritance.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on November 01, 2013, 08:16:16 PM
how is it not a Ponzi scheme?

Why do I feel that's a loaded question designed for a clever rebuttal?  :bernanke:

How about the fact that there's not one guy sitting at the top of the pyramid skimming money off? It's not really a "scheme" or trick either--the govt and media have been pretty up front with people for years now that the money is running out and younger people won't get full benefits if it's not getting fixed. It would be different if they were promising us full benefits forever with no changes.

No one talks seriously about fixing SS and the media outlets that point out how SS is unsustainable get hand waved by the MSM who can only talk about how evil rethuglicans want grandma to starve and freeze in the dark.  Much like how Levin, Beck, and the rest of the alt conservative media were pointing out Obamacare's fatal flaws for years and got hand waved by the MSM until D Day and lo and behold they were right.

You can call it what you want but its basically wealth transfer horseshit where Im subsidizing boomers who ride around in their giant RVs with bumper stickers bragging about spending the kids inheritance.

If boomers are driving around with giant rvs it's because they were a little better off in their working life. SS isn't paying for that.

You (and I) are paying for my grandmother, who lives in a small apartment on a very fixed income. Much of her grocery bills and cab fare to her doctor's are paid for by relatives, and she actually still works part time at a day care...she worked full time there til just a few years ago when she turned 80.

Since her husband died young and her pension was meager, SS allows her to live on her own in a very simple life. Now if she'd had a higher paying job, or my grandfather had lived, then she'd have the money on top of that to go RVing or w/e.

Of course she's not a boomer, but my point is SS does not and should not give people enough for an extravagant live. It should be enough to have minimal shelter and food. The rest is up to you.

And nigger please, don't even be using Glenn Beck or a demagogue like Levin as an authority. They didn't find flaws because they were legit concerned and wanted them fixed, they found flaws because they wanted people to rise up and take Obamacare down. Fox is relentless with hourly horror tales of how Obamacare is, with the constant drumbeat underneath of "repeal it and go back to the way it was before."

If someone has zero interest in fixing something, for example Social Security, I'm less likely to want to hear their solutions.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on November 01, 2013, 09:55:58 PM
Amazingly you can be for the supplemental part of SS and not for the huge overarching monstrosity its become.  Your anecdote is the kind of "Grandma starving while she freezes in the dark" heartstrings bullshit that keeps anyone from having an honest debate about what SS should be and what SS has become (a generational wealth transfer from the youth to the elderly that is unsustainable).  The minute you talk about SS getting out of control someone brings up a grandma that is going to freeze and starve.  Thank you for proving my point.

We are talking about Boomers because A) Boomers are the next huge generation that is going to retire and B) They are going to shit their pants and demand more more more more more because they are the specialest ever and no one will tell them no because they vote, damn it.

As far your giant "BAAAAWWWW" about Levin and Beck, lol at your fancy way of saying "STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!!!!"  They were telling people you're not going to keep your healthcare, they were telling people premiums were going to rise, and what did the MSM do? "Does disagreeing with the ACA mean you're a crazy racist? :smug: "  They found flaws because they knew it was going to be a giant fucking mess that disproportionately benefits the poor and colored at the expense of the middle class, and WELL WHATTAYA KNOW?  But according to Nigger Messiah, you didn't want your healthcare and Big Chief knows best!

Frankly, our entire system of entitlements simply cannot work no matter how many liberal judges rule that, contrary to settled law, illegal beaners, refugees and all the rest are entitled to public aid programs.  The only way you get it (our social welfare network) to work is that you kick out everyone who's not a citizen and you go after those defrauding it, instead of our current LALALALALA NO ONE WOULD EVER DEFRAUD THE GOVERNMENT WHAT ARE YOU SOME SORT OF RACIST THAT WANTS GRANDMA TO FREEZE head in the sand bullshit.  You want Japan's level of social welfare?  You've gotta have Japan's level of social homogeneity, not this bullshit utopian diverse where Mohammed and his three wives and eight kids get fucking bennies because some lefty judge ruled that its the right thing to do.

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on November 01, 2013, 09:58:08 PM
If boomers are driving around with giant rvs it's because they were a little better off in their working life. SS isn't paying for that.

You (and I) are paying for my grandmother, who lives in a small apartment on a very fixed income. Much of her grocery bills and cab fare to her doctor's are paid for by relatives, and she actually still works part time at a day care...she worked full time there til just a few years ago when she turned 80.

Since her husband died young and her pension was meager, SS allows her to live on her own in a very simple life. Now if she'd had a higher paying job, or my grandfather had lived, then she'd have the money on top of that to go RVing or w/e.

Of course she's not a boomer, but my point is SS does not and should not give people enough for an extravagant live. It should be enough to have minimal shelter and food. The rest is up to you.

i do not care about your grandma or whether she starves

maybe if grandpa got to save that 6% (actually 12%) flat tax over 40-50 years of working life grandma would be living it rich driving an SUV with spinnaz today eh?

And nigger please, don't even be using Glenn Beck or a demagogue like Levin as an authority. They didn't find flaws because they were legit concerned and wanted them fixed, they found flaws because they wanted people to rise up and take Obamacare down. Fox is relentless with hourly horror tales of how Obamacare is, with the constant drumbeat underneath of "repeal it and go back to the way it was before."

If someone has zero interest in fixing something, for example Social Security, I'm less likely to want to hear their solutions.

glenn beck and levin may be demagogues and maybe they found flaws for all the wrong reasons but i notice you arent denying that obamacare is horribly flawed and those demagogues might be correct

:jesse:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on November 01, 2013, 10:27:18 PM
Amazingly you can be for the supplemental part of SS and not for the huge overarching monstrosity its become.  Your anecdote is the kind of "Grandma starving while she freezes in the dark" heartstrings bullshit that keeps anyone from having an honest debate about what SS should be and what SS has become (a generational wealth transfer from the youth to the elderly that is unsustainable).  The minute you talk about SS getting out of control someone brings up a grandma that is going to freeze and starve.  Thank you for proving my point.

We are talking about Boomers because A) Boomers are the next huge generation that is going to retire and B) They are going to shit their pants and demand more more more more more because they are the specialest ever and no one will tell them no because they vote, damn it.

As far your giant "BAAAAWWWW" about Levin and Beck, lol at your fancy way of saying "STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!!!!"  They were telling people you're not going to keep your healthcare, they were telling people premiums were going to rise, and what did the MSM do? "Does disagreeing with the ACA mean you're a crazy racist? :smug: "  They found flaws because they knew it was going to be a giant fucking mess that disproportionately benefits the poor and colored at the expense of the middle class, and WELL WHATTAYA KNOW?  But according to Nigger Messiah, you didn't want your healthcare and Big Chief knows best!

Frankly, our entire system of entitlements simply cannot work no matter how many liberal judges rule that, contrary to settled law, illegal beaners, refugees and all the rest are entitled to public aid programs.  The only way you get it (our social welfare network) to work is that you kick out everyone who's not a citizen and you go after those defrauding it, instead of our current LALALALALA NO ONE WOULD EVER DEFRAUD THE GOVERNMENT WHAT ARE YOU SOME SORT OF RACIST THAT WANTS GRANDMA TO FREEZE head in the sand bullshit.  You want Japan's level of social welfare?  You've gotta have Japan's level of social homogeneity, not this bullshit utopian diverse where Mohammed and his three wives and eight kids get fucking bennies because some lefty judge ruled that its the right thing to do.

Calm down. How is my bringing up my grandmother me "not having an honest debate?" My point is that SS should be the kind of minimum my grandmother gets. Boomers like my parents shouldn't get more. Who says they get to demand more and more and get it?

The reason I mock Beck and Levin is they are insane. Beck predicted that he had explosive proof of something that was going to bring down the govt over the summer. He's nuttier then :alex: He can be right like a stopped clock but I'm not going to buy what he says.

I don't disagree that the system of welfare and entitlements is overburdened and needs to be reformed. Nor do I disagree that we need to keep illegals off the rolls. But I don't believe we should throw every form of welfare and SS out.

I did a lot of family research lately and I saw how my ancestors lived. Working till they dropped dead, and that's not what I want for me or my parents.


If boomers are driving around with giant rvs it's because they were a little better off in their working life. SS isn't paying for that.

You (and I) are paying for my grandmother, who lives in a small apartment on a very fixed income. Much of her grocery bills and cab fare to her doctor's are paid for by relatives, and she actually still works part time at a day care...she worked full time there til just a few years ago when she turned 80.

Since her husband died young and her pension was meager, SS allows her to live on her own in a very simple life. Now if she'd had a higher paying job, or my grandfather had lived, then she'd have the money on top of that to go RVing or w/e.

Of course she's not a boomer, but my point is SS does not and should not give people enough for an extravagant live. It should be enough to have minimal shelter and food. The rest is up to you.

i do not care about your grandma or whether she starves

maybe if grandpa got to save that 6% (actually 12%) flat tax over 40-50 years of working life grandma would be living it rich driving an SUV with spinnaz today eh?

And nigger please, don't even be using Glenn Beck or a demagogue like Levin as an authority. They didn't find flaws because they were legit concerned and wanted them fixed, they found flaws because they wanted people to rise up and take Obamacare down. Fox is relentless with hourly horror tales of how Obamacare is, with the constant drumbeat underneath of "repeal it and go back to the way it was before."

If someone has zero interest in fixing something, for example Social Security, I'm less likely to want to hear their solutions.

glenn beck and levin may be demagogues and maybe they found flaws for all the wrong reasons but i notice you arent denying that obamacare is horribly flawed and those demagogues might be correct

:jesse:


Obamacare is flawed and they are right about that, but their solutions are what I disagree with. As is your "fuck, just let everyone keep their money instead of putting into SS!" plan. So we can what, invest it in kicking rad stuff like the stock market. Kewl money grab for Bear-Stearns and Merrrill Lynch bro. I bet they'd love to get their hands on that sweet sweet SS money to gamble for us.

And lol 12% yeah like if the employer contribution to SS was eliminated tomorrow it'd be raises for everyone. :allears:

People say that liberals (or centrist-non conservatives like me) trust the government too much. I'd counter that conservatives and libertarians trust corporations too much. You believe the govt wants to enslave us, but you trust that Daddy Walmart will do what's best for us?
:jesse:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on November 02, 2013, 12:46:02 AM
Dude, you brought Grandma into the debate.  I pointed out that kind of heartstrings anecdote nonsense is the reason we can't have honest discussions without someone immediately turning the debate into "you want to kill old people!".

When did Beck say he had "information that was going to bring down the government"?  You don't like Levin and Beck because they were right but because they outed the big statist, we're mandarins from DC we know best as big statists mandarins who are from DC so they know best.  You're obviously also oblivious to the civil war going on in the Republican Party between the populists who were trying to actually stop Obamacare because they knew it was a train wreck and the industrialists (daddy walmart) who are trying to shove through amnesty because MY BOTTOM LINE.

EDIT: That Daddy Walmart annoys me actually because it shows that you just want to pigeonhole arguments into clearly defined paradigms. Seriously, you think that's what we want as opposed to the reality of more local control instead of being told what kind of insurance people can buy?  This is your argument?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on November 02, 2013, 04:05:11 AM
Why the fuck would you bring up corporations?  In the current state of play, corporations are just extensions of the government.  The two are completely interchangeable.  Libertarians don't even want a corporate state, they want no state at all.  This is one of those arguments where you bring up something irrelevant to refute and sit back smugly.  What do they call that again.. straw... straw something?  Don't worry it'll come to me....

I trust individuals to know what to do with their own money and time.  Why don't you trust individual people?  This is some weird dichotomy where people can be trusted to pick the government to rule their lives because they're somehow smart enough to evaluate that, but at the same time aren't smart enough to rule their own lives.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on November 02, 2013, 04:26:38 AM
The reason why it didn't count as a "lie" when  :obama: promised everyone that they could "keep their current health insurance!" is because he only meant that you could keep your current health insurance IF it was better than the Obamacare alternative.

All these people complaining that they are losing their coverage are just mistaken.  They don't know that the new health care system is better than what they had.   :smug:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: New Feminist Jihad on November 02, 2013, 08:19:51 AM
I would probably be considered in one of the later parts of this generation and am in a rather conservative area, so I'm sheltered from some of the worse effects of this monstrosity which is generational retirement, but it seems few of us realize how idiotic our generation is.
Even in these conservative areas, there are still many freaks of nature who insist upon the future being about them, although I see it much more on the internet.
In fact, I blame it all on the internet. The culture of reliance, "non-conformity", and Californian/New Englander new liberalism have all reached the youth of our country and others via the internet.
I will not make it secret; I live in Minnesota. Of course, everyone will say Minnesota is liberal, but it was NOT socially liberal until recently. Economically? Sure, whatever. But we were not liberal in the sense of, say, allowing gay marriage.
We almost banned it last year by popular vote, actually! But then, the legislature passed gay marriage this year.
I fear more social liberalism is in store when the younger parts of this generation get to voting age, and my state will be transformed into a clone of the other liberal states.
We rely more on the federal government, we see nothing in regional politics and the community, and see things as global. When I say we, I don't mean myself, but I do mean the hivemind of Generation Y which exists on the internet.
We are taught by the internet that we can have whatever we want.
Some say America will fall due to politics, or due to economic downturn, but I say it will fall because of this generation.
If a war started today and had conscription, it would be Vietnam all over again, no matter how righteous the cause. If enemies sat on our soil, ready to kill our people, this generation would cower in fear and wonder why anyone expects them to do work which might involve risk of any sort.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: internetinternetinternet on November 02, 2013, 04:09:59 PM
you people need to learn the difference between a ponzi scheme and a pyramid scheme.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: An Faggot on November 02, 2013, 04:38:12 PM
  :alex: :alex: :alex: :alex: :alex:

Nigger you are disabled at posting and need to retire.  SS should pay you $888/mo to stop transcribing talk radio onto comedy boards, you unfunny shitposting faggot.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on November 02, 2013, 07:04:13 PM
  :alex: :alex: :alex: :alex: :alex:

Nigger you are disabled at posting and need to retire.  SS should pay you $888/mo to stop transcribing talk radio onto comedy boards, you unfunny shitposting faggot.

 :lolno:

look at all this try hard :allears:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: High Impact Sexbot 2020 on November 02, 2013, 07:09:33 PM
He is right about you being a nigger tho  :smug:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on November 02, 2013, 07:10:41 PM
He is right about you being a nigger tho  :smug:

Don't want to hear nuttin from someone who's got an abbo foot on the back of his head. :smug:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on November 02, 2013, 07:44:58 PM
And lol 12% yeah like if the employer contribution to SS was eliminated tomorrow it'd be raises for everyone. :allears:

employer: hmm look, my expenses went down, i can either reinvest my extra money back into my company or reward my investors for their wise decision to invest in me or pay my employees more or maybe i can hire more employees and there will be more jobs!!!!!

its almost as if you ignore all potential positive outcomes of the removal of a policy you like!


edit: also a corporation hasnt ever really forced me to do anything against my will so yeah i prefer walmart over being forced to do shit i dont want or going to jail
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on November 02, 2013, 10:40:45 PM
And lol 12% yeah like if the employer contribution to SS was eliminated tomorrow it'd be raises for everyone. :allears:

employer: hmm look, my expenses went down, i can either reinvest my extra money back into my company or reward my investors for their wise decision to invest in me or pay my employees more or maybe i can hire more employees and there will be more jobs!!!!!

its almost as if you ignore all potential positive outcomes of the removal of a policy you like!

My point is you can't expect that if  they got rid of SS tomorrow the employer contribution would NOT necessarily go back to our paychecks. So we wouldn't have that much more to invest or save or w/e.

Why the fuck would you bring up corporations?  In the current state of play, corporations are just extensions of the government.  The two are completely interchangeable.  Libertarians don't even want a corporate state, they want no state at all.  This is one of those arguments where you bring up something irrelevant to refute and sit back smugly.  What do they call that again.. straw... straw something?  Don't worry it'll come to me....

I trust individuals to know what to do with their own money and time.  Why don't you trust individual people?  This is some weird dichotomy where people can be trusted to pick the government to rule their lives because they're somehow smart enough to evaluate that, but at the same time aren't smart enough to rule their own lives.

:judy: Libertarians want no state, but they also want that to mean businesses are unfettered to do whatever they want. Include growing huge, having monopolies, price gouging, throwing mercury in rivers, paying as little as they can--would Americans work for 50 cents an hour or an "internship" with vague hopes of a job? You bet!

You'll counter by saying I'm a pessimist who is ascribing the worst possible outcomes to libertarian corporatism, but it's a logical outcome, when maximum profit is both the driving force AND the setter of the rules. You'd be an idiot not to pay pennies or pollute, charge much as you can, or use any trickery you could with shit like scams. In an unregulated world, shit like ponzi schemes, junk bonds, bank fraud would be totally legal so long as you had buyers willing to pay.

B-b-b-ut the Free Market! Nobody will buy their products because they will get bad press!

Who do you think would OWN the press?

Dude, you brought Grandma into the debate.  I pointed out that kind of heartstrings anecdote nonsense is the reason we can't have honest discussions without someone immediately turning the debate into "you want to kill old people!".

When did Beck say he had "information that was going to bring down the government"?  You don't like Levin and Beck because they were right but because they outed the big statist, we're mandarins from DC we know best as big statists mandarins who are from DC so they know best.  You're obviously also oblivious to the civil war going on in the Republican Party between the populists who were trying to actually stop Obamacare because they knew it was a train wreck and the industrialists (daddy walmart) who are trying to shove through amnesty because MY BOTTOM LINE.

EDIT: That Daddy Walmart annoys me actually because it shows that you just want to pigeonhole arguments into clearly defined paradigms. Seriously, you think that's what we want as opposed to the reality of more local control instead of being told what kind of insurance people can buy?  This is your argument?

Hey, you started it by bringing in the archetypical mythical Boomer wasting your SS tax on RVs and casinos. And as for Beck, don't you remember back in June when he was freaking out saying he had some big announcement that was going "to take down the Washington power structure" and "shock the nation?"
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All Beck would say is that there is a whistleblower who has handed over just one document to The Blaze, but "this one document would take down pretty much the whole power structure, pretty much everything."  But this whistleblower is refusing to come forward until he can appear on television in front of Congress out of fear that he will otherwise be killed.

"We are going to be greatly divided as a nation," Beck warned, "in the next ten days and you are going to witness things in American history that have never been witnessed before"
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/within-24-hours-glenn-beck-will-break-news-will-rock-nation-and-take-down-entire-power-struc#sthash.RQe1EGED.dpuf

And then he just never brought it up again.
:myecred:

As bad as Hannity, O'Reilly, Rush and some of the others are as :smug: propagandists living in an echo chamber, Beck is a fucking LOON, dude. Mofo was too crazy for FOX. I didn't think anybody still listened to him unironically.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on November 02, 2013, 11:22:52 PM
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archtypical mythical boomer

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/first-person-boomers-spend-kids-inheritance-233100410.html

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I've heard a lot of talk about how baby boomers are redefining retirement. One of the latest trends is a baby boomer who is a SKI'er, an acronym for "Spending the Kids' Inheritance." While the new retirement lingo may be cute, it's not fun for anyone when boomers burn through their retirement savings so they can die broke. The No. 1 downside to "SKI'ing" isn't the prospect that they will leave no inheritance for their children. As children of baby boomers, many Gen-Xers and Gen-Yers know there is a real likelihood our parents will go broke years before they die. Our boomer parents are putting us in a situation of "negative inheritance," another new retirement term that means we are paying the credit card and doctor bills.

Have you done any research into this at all?  The more you post the more I think you're just here to defend your liberal hobby horse and you have everyone's arguments already slotted into your quickdraw slot.  You're not interested in bringing up anything new just shouting the same ol shit in between posting macros.

Yes yes, everyone who disagrees with you is CRAZZZY.  Unfortunately this isn't LF so you're going to need more than CRAAZZZZY and reducto ad fox news arguments to disprove the fact that Beck called things the way they just happened to go down. I am by no means an acolyte of Beck so I have no clue what you're talking about, other than using it as a bright and shiny to distract from the fact that Beck said Obama couldn't keep his promises about the healthcare law based off how it was written.

And what happened? 

BTW Beck started connecting the dots about the cripplecocks behind most of the liberal organizations in the US around the same time he got kicked off of Fox News. But of course its because he's craaaaaaaazy.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on November 03, 2013, 12:13:07 AM
I've been pretty critical of Boomers too so I won't defend that and yeah it's a thing. Doesn't equate to "well then they shouldn't have SS then since they are just wasting it." All that stuff, especially going in debt, pushing their kids in debt, and holding onto jobs all in the name of fun is bad. But not related to SS.

Beck and people like him have systematically found issues with every little thing they can about anything Obama does. And yeah, Obama's done a lot of bad shit, but that doesn't make Beck Nostradamus or Fox Mulder for sussing it out. Oh great, you said everything Obama ever does is horrible--and yep some things are--you're a genius!

Beck has a ton of his wacky tinfoil blackboard CONSPIRACY theories that are funny to read/listen to/watch but that doesn't make me believe them more.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on November 03, 2013, 01:03:06 AM
No, but the fact that means testing SS is "controversial" goes to show you how uninterested anyone is in fixing SS beyond "worry about what the boomers want".

Beck and Levin and all the rest have found issues with Obama because he is a fucking horrible president. This isn't brain science or rocket surgery.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on November 03, 2013, 07:40:24 AM
No, but the fact that means testing SS is "controversial" goes to show you how uninterested anyone is in fixing SS beyond "worry about what the boomers want".

Beck and Levin and all the rest have found issues with Obama because he is a fucking horrible president. This isn't brain science or rocket surgery.

I am for means testing, because if you are a millionaire you shouldn't get to collect SS on top of that. I also think there shouldn't be a pay in cap where after a certain amount of earnings no SS income is taken out. So yeah, millionaires would have to pay in on all their earnings and get nothing back (unless they lose their fortunes after 65.  But those two reforms alone would go a long way towards helping SS solvency.

The "slippery slope" outcry against any sort of SS change is wrong because it needs to be fixed. But with Obamacare, the all or nothing cry of "Repeal and go back to the way it was" is just as bad. It needs to be fixed or replaced with some sort of a better system, but most critics on the Right are putting out nothing in the way of a serious alternative. The most I've heard on the news are some vague "if the preexisting conditions are such a big deal I would have come up with a way to subsidise just those people" with no specifics on how that wouldn't fuck up the insurance companies.

Beck and Levin and all the other crusaders are hypocrites. If there was a horrible Republican in the White House they would defend him to the death and excuse everything he did. All the specious accusations of "using a teleprompter" and "hard hitting exposes" on the cost of Air Force One and the ranting against the Survellence State would vanish overnight and they would accuse critics of being unAmerican.   
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on November 03, 2013, 11:09:01 AM
Except you can't talk seriously about fixing anything because otherwise someone holds up their personal totem, which was my point originally.  Look at fucking food stamps - cutting $34 of benefits a month and you have niggers in the street yelling HOW I GUN FID MAI BABIES and Democrats screaming about how the Republicans want "starving children".  Any sort of benefit reform turns into "You want X to starve/freeze/die because you hate poors/minorities".  This is the default position of the left in America! 

The sea change in Democratic politics now is that its all about racial tribal spoils - what can the government get me?  That shit about Obama's sky executions, illegal assertions of executive power, deciding what laws to follow - that means nothing to your average nigger in the city.  That's fancy shit for rich white liberals and SWPLS to get fired up about...but Bush did it too!

So that's why I find your assertion about Beck and Levin so fucking hilarious.  If Bush was executing US citizens via drone fiat you'd have had Articles of Impeachment drawn up.  If Bush had simply said "NOPE NOT GONNA DO IT" when ordered to turn over documents (Benghazi, Fast and Furious), there would have been a fucking Constitutional crisis.  Your assertion that Republicans are just going to blindly march in lockstep ignores the fact that the base went insane over TARP and populist radio still mocks Bush II's pronouncement of "We had to violate our capitalist principals to save our capitalist system". 

The fact that Romney, ANOTHER center left big state "moderate" didn't get elected flies in the face of your assertion that the Republicans would support anyone with an R next to their name.  Romney didn't lose because Proc's 20,000 cousins didn't come out and vote for him, he lost because the ONLY issue he went to the mat for was tax breaks for big business.  The rest of it: amnesty, foreign wars, crony capitalism, etc - his position was literally "I'm not as bad as Obama".   

The irony is that Bush II is presented as some sort of arch conservative when in reality he was an awful fucking center leftist on the majority of issues (Medicaid Part D, NCLB, trying to push an amnesty TWICE, continuing the relaxing of lending standards that Clinton began, telling Texas to not execute a raping, murdering, illegal alien that the World Court didn't want executed, expanding food stamps to non citizens)  and he had DeLay and Frist to shove through whatever he wanted.  The Democrats should have kept the Congress for a decade after Bush II's fiasco of a second term, but they fucked it up because it quickly became obvious that the ACA was so fucked and the Democrats would do anything to push through their agenda.  So that's why they got their shit kicked in during 2010, and 2014 is going to be absolutely amazing just for the fireworks in the Republican Civil War.

But hey bro, keep pretending its 2005 and NO BLOOD FOR OIL and shit cause things never change m I rite? :smug:


tldr: compassionate conservatism is more big state bullshit designed to appeal to rubes, and its very dead now. stop pretending otherwise.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mullah Omar on November 03, 2013, 11:38:08 AM
All this nigger talk reminds me, there was a study that showed immigrants reduced altruistic attitudes to the poor/unemployed and a belief in a welfare state amongst the middle and upper classes.

 :myecred:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dental Grade Dildo on November 03, 2013, 12:07:36 PM
All this nigger talk reminds me, there was a study that showed immigrants reduced altruistic attitudes to the poor/unemployed and a belief in a welfare state amongst the middle and upper classes.

 :myecred:
*OSI grabs a Spanish phrasebook and starts running free border crossing transportation every weekend*
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on November 03, 2013, 12:29:46 PM
All this nigger talk reminds me, there was a study that showed immigrants reduced altruistic attitudes to the poor/unemployed and a belief in a welfare state amongst the middle and upper classes.

 :myecred:

This makes no sense and sounds like Rove "natural conservatives :smug:" wishful thinking.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on November 03, 2013, 12:49:23 PM
All this nigger talk reminds me, there was a study that showed immigrants reduced altruistic attitudes to the poor/unemployed and a belief in a welfare state amongst the middle and upper classes.

 :myecred:
*OSI grabs a Spanish phrasebook and starts running free border crossing transportation every weekend*

Hablo Espanol ahora, cabron. :lolno:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OMNIPRESENT CYBERFILTH on November 03, 2013, 01:40:40 PM
I am for means testing, because if you are a millionaire you shouldn't get to collect SS on top of that. I also think there shouldn't be a pay in cap where after a certain amount of earnings no SS income is taken out. So yeah, millionaires would have to pay in on all their earnings and get nothing back (unless they lose their fortunes after 65.  But those two reforms alone would go a long way towards helping SS solvency.

The cap is right around $100,000 so its not just millionaires, it's a tax on anyone in the upper classes, and even upper middle classes in metropolitan areas.  Not to say it shouldn't happen, just that it's going to hit more people than you think.  It will also be a piss in the ocean compared to the funding gap, which barring a genocide on retirees measures into the trillions over the next 20 years, and that's not even counting Medicare.  But that's what you get when you trust the government to fund anything long term. 

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The "slippery slope" outcry against any sort of SS change is wrong because it needs to be fixed. But with Obamacare, the all or nothing cry of "Repeal and go back to the way it was" is just as bad. It needs to be fixed or replaced with some sort of a better system, but most critics on the Right are putting out nothing in the way of a serious alternative. The most I've heard on the news are some vague "if the preexisting conditions are such a big deal I would have come up with a way to subsidise just those people" with no specifics on how that wouldn't fuck up the insurance companies.

The right doesn't get as many lobbying dollars from the AMA, doctors associations' etc as do democrats but their palms get greased enough by insurance companies to not want to rock the boat.  Health care premiums have been outpacing inflation by multiples since the 90's yet a Republican Congress didn't say shit because the businesses they so claimed to love were all dealing with it on the back end (if you didn't get a raise in the 90's, you did, it just went to your insurance premium).  As you say, just like SS, they're happy with stopgap measures that let them spend recklessly until the numbers don't balance.  Ironically enough the democrats were the ones criticizing Reagan for dumping SS funds into general expenditures in exchange for Treasury bonds, doesn't that sound like some sort of Bizarro world 35 years later.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on November 04, 2013, 05:47:43 AM
if you are old and you didnt have a contingency for retirement whether its savings, your kids taking care of you or a bullet you are dumb as fuck

like seriously, how can you not see old age coming
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on November 04, 2013, 09:11:47 AM
If you think monopolies exist in a free market, then you don't know enough about economics, human behaviour and business to be discussing it.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on November 04, 2013, 09:18:22 AM

You'll counter by saying I'm a pessimist who is ascribing the worst possible outcomes to libertarian corporatism, but it's a logical outcome, when maximum profit is both the driving force AND the setter of the rules. You'd be an idiot not to pay pennies or pollute, charge much as you can, or use any trickery you could with shit like scams. In an unregulated world, shit like ponzi schemes, junk bonds, bank fraud would be totally legal so long as you had buyers willing to pay.

B-b-b-ut the Free Market! Nobody will buy their products because they will get bad press!

Who do you think would OWN the press?


No, I'll counter by saying that there are no such things as monopolies, once you remove the state from the mix.


If you drive your competitors out of business by cutting prices and using your might to do it, then you drive yourself out of business by doing it at below cost.  Then your competitors re-enter the market.  Nothing changes.  If you subsidise that behaviour by making money elsewhere, then the consumer wins by having goods at below cost.  If they are willing to pay more to get better quality or a different supplier, then they will and you won't drive all your competitors out of business.


If you manage to "corner the market" somehow and push prices up to some mythical "monopoly price" (by the way, who is to say what the proper price is for a good?) then you'll stimulate competition by making it a lucrative market to be in.


B.b.b.b.b.but MONOPOLIES! is nonsensical.  Who is to say what the "correct" number of producers of any good is?  Who is to say what the right price is?  It's a nonsense concept, it has no economic reality or meaning.  It can't be defined outside state interference or artificial stifling of competition by force, neither of which any libertarian is advocating.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on November 04, 2013, 09:33:57 AM
Oh yes, this magical land where the government doesn't interfere with business. Even better, now you have to talk about a world where a countries government doesn't interfere with business/trade. That's a hypothetical worth talking about.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: skink shamed on November 04, 2013, 10:05:49 PM

You'll counter by saying I'm a pessimist who is ascribing the worst possible outcomes to libertarian corporatism, but it's a logical outcome, when maximum profit is both the driving force AND the setter of the rules. You'd be an idiot not to pay pennies or pollute, charge much as you can, or use any trickery you could with shit like scams. In an unregulated world, shit like ponzi schemes, junk bonds, bank fraud would be totally legal so long as you had buyers willing to pay.

B-b-b-ut the Free Market! Nobody will buy their products because they will get bad press!

Who do you think would OWN the press?

lol at your attack on profit motives
lol at an unregulated free market
lol at natural monopolies

Oh yes, this magical land where the government doesn't interfere with business. Even better, now you have to talk about a world where a countries government doesn't interfere with business/trade. That's a hypothetical worth talking about.

lol incredulous faggot
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OMNIPRESENT CYBERFILTH on November 05, 2013, 05:48:16 AM
No, I'll counter by saying that there are no such things as monopolies, once you remove the state from the mix.

If you drive your competitors out of business by cutting prices and using your might to do it, then you drive yourself out of business by doing it at below cost.  Then your competitors re-enter the market.  Nothing changes.  If you subsidise that behaviour by making money elsewhere, then the consumer wins by having goods at below cost.  If they are willing to pay more to get better quality or a different supplier, then they will and you won't drive all your competitors out of business.

If you manage to "corner the market" somehow and push prices up to some mythical "monopoly price" (by the way, who is to say what the proper price is for a good?) then you'll stimulate competition by making it a lucrative market to be in.

Not all industries are the same.  Any industry where it costs beaucoup bucks to get off the ground - making medical drugs, pulling oil out of the ground, water reclamation, hell refining steel, it's way more profitable to collude with your competitors than it is to undercut each other.  Yeah if the local Geek Squad is shit and charging $90 an hour a nimble competitor can come in and eat up the market but for any corp with a high bar to entry monopolies will form more naturally than competition.

It doesn't help your average joe knows about as much about these industries as they do self appendectomies so boycotts and other natural market checks aren't a big threat, how often do you shop around for your utility companies?  You pay your water bill and get on with life.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dental Grade Dildo on November 05, 2013, 06:04:18 AM
It doesn't help your average joe knows about as much about these industries as they do self appendectomies so boycotts and other natural market checks aren't a big threat, how often do you shop around for your utility companies?  You pay your water bill and get on with life.
And even if they did, boycotts almost never have a meaningful impact unless they're organized and mandated from the top (usually by the government which doesn't like another government).
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on November 05, 2013, 08:50:02 AM
:facepalm:

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: skink shamed on November 05, 2013, 08:17:31 PM
All you faggots need to stop being paranoid goons. "B-B-B-But THEY'LL CHARGE ME TOO MUCH MONEY FOR THE THINGS I NEEEED" then work harder faggot. Man up and contribute goods to get what you want.

Government solutions = Goontopia

it's way more profitable to collude with your competitors than it is to undercut each other.

Value is subjective, bro. Men have different ends. Your statement is not universally valid. Therefore antitrust laws are for FAGGOTS.

You guys seriously need to go read all 13 pages of the economics faggotry thread (http://somethingsensitive.com/index.php?topic=518.0) and post your gay hitler economic theories and shit in that. It's easier for me to keep track of my forum victories that way.
TIA
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: internetinternetinternet on November 05, 2013, 10:45:18 PM
oh yea, the free market, where everything will work out perfectly just because.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on November 06, 2013, 12:07:27 AM
time to start dis party right :smug:

*lights candles on altar to Paul Krugman, places carton of moon pies on altar, and burns a copy of Capitalism and Freedom*

reactionary reactionary, I summon thee!
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: skink shamed on November 06, 2013, 12:18:31 AM
who let all the commies in?

and lol to all of you who think the burden of proof is on free-market advocates

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on November 06, 2013, 01:05:17 AM
who let all the commies in?

and lol to all of you who think the burden of proof is on free-market advocates
So when the US switches a true free market, does the rest of the world switch as well?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: skink shamed on November 06, 2013, 02:34:53 AM
Did the rest of the world turn gay when you did?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on November 06, 2013, 02:43:47 AM
Did the rest of the world turn gay when you did?

trick question, the rest of the world is hardcore gay and america is where the non-gays fled to
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mullah Omar on November 06, 2013, 11:42:06 AM
All this nigger talk reminds me, there was a study that showed immigrants reduced altruistic attitudes to the poor/unemployed and a belief in a welfare state amongst the middle and upper classes.

 :myecred:

This makes no sense and sounds like Rove "natural conservatives :smug:" wishful thinking.

I'd get you a link to the study but I can't be arsed since I'm permabanned from the nationalist forum because I kept offending uppity wogs.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on November 07, 2013, 08:17:11 AM
All this nigger talk reminds me, there was a study that showed immigrants reduced altruistic attitudes to the poor/unemployed and a belief in a welfare state amongst the middle and upper classes.

 :myecred:

This makes no sense and sounds like Rove "natural conservatives :smug:" wishful thinking.

I'd get you a link to the study but I can't be arsed since I'm permabanned from the nationalist forum because I kept offending uppity wogs.

Re read your original quote and that makes perfect sense now. Its my reading comprehension that was fucked.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 40k Scrotal Sacks on November 07, 2013, 08:30:53 AM
What doesn't reduce the altruism of the middle class these days? Fuckers are afraid of ending up as poors themselves, so better kick the suckers below you while you still can.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: The Trumpriarch on November 07, 2013, 03:54:41 PM
Unregulated free market talk is just as gay as commie talk.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on November 07, 2013, 06:12:28 PM
all the faggot commies and centrists cant win an argument so they just call the argument gay :smug:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: skink shamed on November 07, 2013, 06:54:13 PM
What doesn't reduce the altruism of the middle class these days?
your mom

Unregulated free market talk is just as gay as commie talk.
:reagan: if you understand that a free market is not unregulated

 :jesse: if you think regulation only comes from the state
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: kosher nostra on November 08, 2013, 09:52:18 PM
Look at the shoulders on this guy.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on November 08, 2013, 10:31:06 PM
You can't explain how collectivism or statism works by rational argument, but you can clearly and logically show how a free market works, and it's the free market that is gay.

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OMNIPRESENT CYBERFILTH on November 10, 2013, 09:09:55 PM
Value is subjective, bro. Men have different ends. Your statement is not universally valid. Therefore antitrust laws are for FAGGOTS.

What does this mean exactly?  Nothing is universally valid, but there are tendencies toward monopoly in certain industries.  And yes, governments just as often support the monopolies (as long as they get their slice) as discourage them. 

Obviously the theoretical free market where no strings are pulled behind the scenes will be the most productive one that raises the standard of living the most.  Thinking that's ever going to happen as long as so many people will happily fuck over a million strangers to buy a summer home in the Bahamas is lol.  Huge organizations with no accountability are a breeding ground for sociopathic personalities, and huge organizations have all the power now.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: nerdball on November 11, 2013, 03:18:10 PM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/e88d7c20a5b23dc84a7bd4855dae9bae/tumblr_ms0qcsl3d01rbo2pko1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: skink shamed on November 11, 2013, 04:53:18 PM
Value is subjective, bro. Men have different ends. Your statement is not universally valid. Therefore antitrust laws are for FAGGOTS.

What does this mean exactly?  Nothing is universally valid, but there are tendencies toward monopoly in certain industries.  And yes, governments just as often support the monopolies (as long as they get their slice) as discourage them.

If you're for government prevention of monopolies then you are in support of a monopoly yourself - the monopoly on law.

Monopoly on Law:
Makes unlawful (prescriptive) claim to your property

Monopoly on Petroleum:
Work for it, faggot


If it is good to monopolize law, then why not monopolize x?

By the way, there's no proof of a naturally occurring monopoly. If you'd like to argue a priori then that's cool because that's how we will come to the conclusion that a naturally occurring monopoly would be less criminal than the monopoly on law we have now.


Obviously the theoretical free market where no strings are pulled behind the scenes will be the most productive one that raises the standard of living the most.

 :reagan:


Huge organizations with no accountability are a breeding ground for sociopathic personalities, and huge organizations have all the power now.

 :reagan:
that's an argument against the state, right?  :smug:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: internetinternetinternet on November 11, 2013, 05:25:20 PM
i've never met a libertarian who wasn't a permavirgin loser so i really don't have any respect for that ideology. i'd rather hang out with the campus communists.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: skink shamed on November 11, 2013, 05:53:58 PM
i've never met a nigger libertarian so
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on November 11, 2013, 06:15:04 PM
all the faggot commies and centrists cant win an argument so they just call the argument gay participants losers :smug:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OMNIPRESENT CYBERFILTH on November 11, 2013, 06:57:15 PM
If it is good to monopolize law, then why not monopolize x?

We don't monopolize law.  The Constitution lays out certain responsibilities for the Federal Government and the State Government.  Everything else is (should be) decided by localities being groups of people who one would hope share the same values.  You'll note all of the egregiously invasive sectors that tend to ruin ordinary people by being expensive and overly legislative (law, health care, finance) are basically private/public partnerships.  Doesn't sound like a monopoly of law to me.

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By the way, there's no proof of a naturally occurring monopoly. If you'd like to argue a priori then that's cool because that's how we will come to the conclusion that a naturally occurring monopoly would be less criminal than the monopoly on law we have now.

Making a perfect theoretical example is useless, especially since you can always shift the blame to <X> social reason why blah blah had to nationalize/privatize the blah blah.  Also different cultures treat industry different - niggerish cultures tend to be libertarian at the low end and communist at the high end, nordic countries tend to be mildly socialist at nearly every level, the US is a weird hodgepodge depending on the area you live in.  I'm simply talking tendencies.

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Obviously the theoretical free market where no strings are pulled behind the scenes will be the most productive one that raises the standard of living the most.

 :reagan:


Huge organizations with no accountability are a breeding ground for sociopathic personalities, and huge organizations have all the power now.

 :reagan:
that's an argument against the state, right?  :smug:

It's an argument to keep it small and strictly defined in nature.  Once government responsibility creeps out it becomes monolithic and encompassing, like an avalanche.  It also allows such unintended consequences of having its major players make obscene amounts of money gaming the system.  Did you know it's not illegal for congressmen to insider trade?  For a government that has no power over state commerce, that's not so abuseable.  In an environment without any regulation, money interests pretty quickly establish themselves and never let go.  Look at Comcast, which has nearly total penetration over cable markets in the country.  There's not a single person I've known who hasn't had a horror story about them, and in a service oriented environment as the US is these days it is hard not to directly attribute it to the fact it's the only major player.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danish Plastic Bigotry on November 11, 2013, 09:07:44 PM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/e88d7c20a5b23dc84a7bd4855dae9bae/tumblr_ms0qcsl3d01rbo2pko1_500.jpg)


A reminder that for 99% of Millenials, this is the most grievous violation of their lives they're willing to protest. Also, taping a sheet of paper to computer monitors is the riskiest form of protest they're capable of. Should be easy to bring back jackbooted fascism, so I can't say I'm unhappy.

As much as MLK and his movement spoiled things, at least they were willing to get a fire hose turned on them. Less effort than blacks  :lolno:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on November 11, 2013, 09:11:10 PM
the funny thing is that the people who taped the paper on the monitors are probably the only people in that class who know what tumblr is
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on November 11, 2013, 09:32:43 PM
Nah, tumblr is a very important porn and cat picture sharing tool.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danger-Weiner on November 11, 2013, 10:49:17 PM
school probably blocked tumblr because of all the porn
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Fade to Vanilla on November 11, 2013, 10:52:39 PM
ooofta!  the gen whiners living in mom & dad's basement are one of the prime reasons that their folks are flat broke in their retirement and soon to be joining their deadbeat kids on a heating grate and living out of the dumpster behind olive garden.

who would've seen this coming? (http://www.thestreet.com/story/12103531/1/americans-retiring-early-then-running-out-of-money.html)

granted, this is cramer's site, so the financials are either blindingly obvious or completely wrong.  in this case, i think we can safely say this one's in the "column a" category.

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Americans Retiring Early, Then Running Out of Money

NEW YORK (TheStreet) -- If there's one word that best describes Americans' understanding of retirement, it might be "confused."

That's the operative term after a review of the latest Genworth (GNW) survey on retirement readiness among adults nearing the end of their working years.

Genworth reports that Americans are "retiring earlier ... but underestimating retirement expenses" once they arrive -- both the result of "unrealistic" expectations.

"Unpredictable retirement dates, compounded by misperceptions about retirement expenses and the uncertain futures of traditional sources of retirement income may leave many retirees at risk for outliving their retirement savings if they don't prepare properly," says Eric Taylor, national sales manager for annuities at Genworth.

Solidifying a recent trend in which Americans seem to be struggling with their retirements, the Genworth study says that 73% of Americans are "confident they will retire as planned," yet only 48% of actual retirees "retired when they expected."

Then there's the problem that, as a recent survey by Wells Fargo (WFC_) says, middle-class Americans consider paying off debt a bigger priority than saving for retirement.

That's noble, but once the bills are paid, there's little left for the retirement savings account.

The Genworth data reveals that 52% of pre-retirees expect their living expenses to decrease in retirement, but actually, 65% of retirees saw their costs rise in retirement. Genworth says health care costs are the main culprit, along with real estate and "money spent on dependents."

Only 12% of retirees interviewed by Genworth say they had enough money to meet those higher living expenses.

Put it all together and you have a scenario in which millions of Americans will retire not knowing they lack the necessary funds to survive in retirement -- and may not have the financial means to close that money gap in their 60s, 70s and beyond.

Talk about a wake-up call for Americans nearing retirement.

If Americans don't get a better grip on their retirement needs, and a more realistic timetable on when they can afford to retire, a financial tsunami awaits millions of unsuspecting U.S. retirees.

At that point, the operative word will no longer be "confusion" -- it will be "disaster."
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: skink shamed on November 12, 2013, 09:00:55 AM
I'm gonna look like a fag for doing this but whatever

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Chap. LXXIV.—An Act in addition to the act, entitled "An act for the punishment of certain crimes against the United States."

Section 1. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That if any persons shall unlawfully combine or conspire together, with intent to oppose any measure or measures of the government of the United States, which are or shall be directed by proper authority, or to impede the operation of any law of the United States, or to intimidate or prevent any person holding a place or office in or under the government of the United States, from undertaking, performing or executing his trust or duty; and if any person or persons, with intent as aforesaid, shall counsel, advise or attempt to procure any insurrection, riot, unlawful assembly, or combination, whether such conspiracy, threatening, counsel, advice, or attempt shall have the proposed effect or not, he or they shall be deemed guilty of a high misdemeanor, and on conviction, before any court of the United States having jurisdiction thereof; shall be punished by a fine not exceeding five thousand dollars, and by imprisonment during a term not less than six months nor exceeding five years; and further, at the discretion of the court may be holden to find sureties for his good behaviour in such sum, and for such time, as the said court may direct.

Sec. 2. And be it further enacted, That if any person shall write, print, utter or publish, or shall cause or procure to be written, printed, uttered or published, or shall knowingly and willingly assist or aid in writing, printing, uttering or publishing any false, scandalous and malicious writing or writings against the government of the United States, or either house of the Congress of the United States, or the President of the United States, with intent to defame the said government, or either house of the said Congress, or the said President, or to bring them, or either of them, into contempt or disrepute; or to excite against them, or either or any of them, the hatred of the good people of the United States, or to stir up sedition within the United States, or to excite any unlawful combinations therein, for opposing or resisting any law of the United States, or any act of the President of the United States, done in pursuance of any such law, or of the powers in him vested by the constitution of the United States, or to resist, oppose, or defeat any such law or act, or to aid, encourage or abet any hostile designs of any foreign nation against the United States, their people or government, then such person, being thereof convicted before any court of the United States having jurisdiction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars, and by imprisonment not exceeding two years.

Sec. 3. And be it further enacted and declared, That if any person shall be prosecuted under this act, for the writing or publishing any libel aforesaid, it shall be lawful for the defendant, upon the trial of the cause, to give in evidence in his defence, the truth of the matter contained in the publication charged as a libel. And the jury who shall try the cause, shall have a right to determine the law and the fact, under the direction of the court, as in other cases.

Sec. 4. And be it further enacted, That this act shall continue and be in force until the third day of March, one thousand eight hundred and one, and no longer: Provided, that the expiration of the act shall not prevent or defeat a prosecution and punishment of any offence against the law, during the time it shall be in force.

Approved, July 14, 1798.


I guess you're saying that since the federal government or the states don't legislate all areas of life in the states then they're not monopolies? But laws are still written by these governments and they overrule property rights to the contrary, e.g. fugitive slave laws, Supreme Court rubberstamping, OSHA, I can't even own a bald eagle. Where's the competition in endangered species protection?

The monopoly on niggerage, corollary to the monopoly on law, corollary to the monopoly on force - if anything is without regulation it's the state.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Beepboop on November 12, 2013, 09:04:40 AM
I'm gonna look like a fag for doing this but whatever

You certainly don't look like a fag for doing that.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: skink shamed on November 12, 2013, 09:26:07 AM
would you believe me if i said i've missed you?

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Beepboop on November 12, 2013, 10:59:55 AM
Not really sure, it's probably a clever rhetorical ploy again.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OMNIPRESENT CYBERFILTH on November 12, 2013, 07:09:12 PM
I guess you're saying that since the federal government or the states don't legislate all areas of life in the states then they're not monopolies? But laws are still written by these governments and they overrule property rights to the contrary, e.g. fugitive slave laws, Supreme Court rubberstamping, OSHA, I can't even own a bald eagle. Where's the competition in endangered species protection?

The monopoly on niggerage, corollary to the monopoly on law, corollary to the monopoly on force - if anything is without regulation it's the state.

I just meant no one organization has monopoly on making all laws, there are separations of powers (theoretically, although the Federal Government has been trying to impinge everywhere).  Also theoretically the individual states or regions could secede if they didn't like Federal law, although Lincoln made short work of that.  So I'll grant we are not exactly the image our founders envisioned, but I think that falls more to the electorate and their demands on government, and government's glad acceptance of that responsibility.  I would say the primary cause of it is the niggerization of the culture, where that behavior is typically much more pronounced.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: skink shamed on November 13, 2013, 08:29:12 PM
Here's my Theory of Faggotivity:

1. Faggots have always existed alongside man.

2. In the beginning faggots could never afford to act gay. If a faggot behaved as he wanted then he was kicked out of the tribe - a tribe being established by the nonfaggots of course, since it entails success with women, families and producing things of value.

3. Overtime man became so productive that he could not exclude gay faggots from the utility of his labor. Like roaches, faggots began to act gay and thrived off the fruits of man.

4. Man created the state, a monopoly of force, to combat niggers.

5. Too busy working the fields and killing niggers to protect his kin, man had no affordable solution to gaymind power-grab. The problem with faggots is that you can't tell if they're a faggot until you observe them being gay. Once a faggot is in the state, it's too late.

6. Enter Plato, the Prime Faggot of western civilization.

The world was pretty gay for a while but then the xtians set things right (faggots call this period the dark ages because not a faggot could be found). But then faggots got a foothold again and started gaying it up from scratch for the last few hundred years.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on November 14, 2013, 06:56:50 AM
I dunno I kinda like your timeline but I think instead of being cast out completely the faggots carved themselves a weird niche, like the Indian (as in dot indian) and Indian (as in woo-woo head dress indians) both have faggots fulfilling specialised roles within the tribe.  The role of faggots, I guess.

TBH I am not even that bothered by faggots so long as they don't try to make everyone accept them as normal and not faggots.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on November 14, 2013, 06:05:08 PM
TBH I am not even that bothered by faggots so long as they don't try to make everyone accept them as normal and not faggots.

yeah but the problem with faggots is that they are faggots so
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Trump is the New Norma on November 14, 2013, 06:42:18 PM
Companies WANT to hire young people.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: skink shamed on November 14, 2013, 06:53:50 PM
I dunno I kinda like your timeline but I think instead of being cast out completely the faggots carved themselves a weird niche, like the Indian (as in dot indian) and Indian (as in woo-woo head dress indians) both have faggots fulfilling specialised roles within the tribe.  The role of faggots, I guess.

You've made a categorical error by applying my theory to subhumans.  For a theory on niggergy, you may want to read On the Origin of Niggers by Means of Property Expropriation, or the Preservation of Destructive Races in the Struggle for Peace.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danish Plastic Bigotry on November 14, 2013, 09:35:58 PM
I think even the most pozzed fields will see the same thing. Academia sure as fuck isn't going to be full of tumblr addicts who can't write a paper without having fifty panic attacks. With the exceptions of gender studies and sociology, even the most faggoty liberal arts professorships will go to the few well-adjusted normal ones and not troon snowflake #100000.

Of course this will be seen as 'privilege,' or 'luck' at best, by the unwashed masses of failure. Par for the course, I guess.


I'm just curious as to what the effect will be on the property market. Not smart enough to really predict it, but surely home prices will tank and even us average motherfuckers will be able to enjoy a fire sale, right?  :allears:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: hairsniffer1983 on November 14, 2013, 10:13:16 PM
I am right in the middle of this, mid 20's. I travel around quite a bit at the moment seeing the world and working, I can do it because I set it up for myself when I was young. I didn't go to university, kept my hobbies on the side as hobbies and chose a career with a decent amount of flexibility and demand Started from the bottom and worked in the industry for five years or so. I don't really talk about it with people I meet but whenever somebody asks it's always the same response: "oh you're so lucky, having that easy of a job when I have to do these shitty jobs.

No motherfucker, it's not easy, it's difficult and you wouldn't have a clue how to begin with it. I worked for years at this while you were pissing away money on a fluffy degree doing whatever you wanted. I usually just let it go because whatever I'm not fagging up the conversation with a debate when we could all be partying or doing something cool instead, just wanted to get that off my chest somewhere...
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: hair sniffing boner diary on November 15, 2013, 01:10:59 AM
The definition of gen-Y keeps shifting younger, but I think I'm one. I'm 29, born 1984.

As a late-20s dude, I have zero real competition in the workforce thanks to the Internet-GenY-mopefest. I've worked hard my entire adult life and I landed a $150k/year job a few years ago. I think the only reason I landed the job is because I was young and actually had some gumption and potential.

Everyone I work with is like "Wow you're so goddamn young and mature, you're going to be rich". I'm not so goddamn young, I'm almost 30. I'm no different than anyone else, but my generation is so pozzed and stupid that they can't get in on this fucking goldmine themselves.

Youth is a fucking asset, you fucking fuckers. Companies WANT to hire young people. Because socially-adjusted, smart, young people are fucking rare in this day. Sadly. Though I fucking love it, I'm making a living enough to retire by the time I'm 45. So bring on the Tumblr generation.

This is a really good post, thank you for sharing.  I am on the opposite end of what is considered GenY and it is painful to see how unusual wanting to work is among the age group.  In a vacuum I wouldn't say I was exceptional, but everyone I am compared to is so goddamn terrible things work out in my favor by simply not being actively horrible.
Out of all of our friends from high school, my husband and I are the only ones with jobs.  How did this happen?  They went to the same university as we did, studying the same things.  The only difference is that my husband and I worked through college (2008 was a bad year for student loans for obvious reasons-- worked out in our favor, I guess!) and our friends got full rides for being poor.  Guess what?  Because they were given everything, they have no expectations for themselves and no motivation to run their lives.  All of them are living at their mothers houses, eating her food, sitting on her internet.  I wish they were the exception, but they are rapidly becoming the rule.  I hope something catastrophic happens to make people htfu or get out.  :clint:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: internetinternetinternet on November 15, 2013, 08:18:22 PM
even my gooniest friend has a job with a TS cutting code for a defense contractor. he moved back in with his folks and did an unpaid internship after school, but it wasnt a year later that he landed that through a friend.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hashtag Activist on November 15, 2013, 09:58:01 PM
Gen Y isn't totally fucked.  There's plenty of people in everyone generation that were fucking useless.  Before these people would be stuck in their own little world and essentially ostracized from society unless they got their shit together, and now they get to sit on the internet together and become a hivemind of victimhood. 
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hollywood Shabat Goy Yaro on November 16, 2013, 12:05:57 AM
I'm also 29, graduated college in 2008 and I echo everyone's sentiments about generation Y. 

On one hand I see my peers and younger members of my generation being pozzed up fuck ups working to  my benefit (Less competition) but on the other hand I'm scared because we'll be running this country in 20-30 years.   The idea of the tumblr generation running for office is quite disturbing. 
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on November 16, 2013, 12:24:02 AM
The definition of gen-Y keeps shifting younger, but I think I'm one. I'm 29, born 1984.

As a late-20s dude, I have zero real competition in the workforce thanks to the Internet-GenY-mopefest. I've worked hard my entire adult life and I landed a $150k/year job a few years ago. I think the only reason I landed the job is because I was young and actually had some gumption and potential.

Everyone I work with is like "Wow you're so goddamn young and mature, you're going to be rich". I'm not so goddamn young, I'm almost 30. I'm no different than anyone else, but my generation is so pozzed and stupid that they can't get in on this fucking goldmine themselves.

Youth is a fucking asset, you fucking fuckers. Companies WANT to hire young people. Because socially-adjusted, smart, young people are fucking rare in this day. Sadly. Though I fucking love it, I'm making a living enough to retire by the time I'm 45. So bring on the Tumblr generation.


Agree with this.  I think I scrape into Gen-X (born in 1980) but I'm the youngest person in my little team of project coordinators by a clear 15-20 years.  That's been the case of the last two or three jobs - mostly because project management tends to be dominated by people who worked for X years in the field and then moved into project work where as I seem to have sidestepped that by having a relatively short tenure in field work in telecoms and then shifting to a completely unrelated industry (railways)


It's good on a personal level having no competition in the marketplace but it's also depressing this shower of shit are going to be forced to run the world when all their Mummy & Daddy die and won't support them any more.  They'll be babes in the wood for some fuckin dictator or UN-style nanny state world government telling them when to eat their organic quinoa porridge and how many acorn coffees they're allowed in a day.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on November 16, 2013, 07:32:06 AM
There will be some in our generation that will HTFU over time.  This will probably happen when mommy and daddy decide to move to Florida or Arizona for retirement.  Most will end up pozzed for life.  The good news is that most of them probably won't breed.  This is why the hispanic majority is likely to happen sooner than expected: most white kids will end up spending their fertile days whining on Tumblr about how people sit on the subway instead of breeding.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on November 16, 2013, 09:20:58 AM
I've always seen it as a situation where there's always some pozzed people in each generation, but the ratio of pozzed to HTFU gets more and more skewed with each passing generation.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: LITERALLY A RAPIST on November 16, 2013, 02:43:50 PM
my wife TAs a 100 level 'intro to engineering' course (grad student but doing her phd in materials engineering) and comes home with stories about how she's been making freshman cry. one asian student was just siting in class doing chemistry work while the other two members of his group were working on the project. she sat down next to him and said, "is that engineering 100 work? it looks like chemistry to me. put it away and help out your groupmates." The kids face turned all red and his fucking chin was tucked into his chest with his lip quivering like he was about to cry. meanwhile the other two kids in his group were complaining that he hadn't helped with anything all semester.

another time she had a group come up to her about why they got a C- on an assignment. they turned in a couple of pages that was supposed to be their 'lab notebook'. they tried to fight with it and wanted to know how to get an A on the assignment, and when she told them no, two members of the group who were twin sisters started tearing up and crying.

my wife is a pretty nice and easy going person, so it's crazy to me that she could make 18 year olds cry but there you go. she's not yelling at these kids and telling them they're failures or that they're going to get Fs and kicked out of school, she's just telling them the situation as it is ('no, you can't get an A on this because you didn't turn in what was asked for in the syllabus') yet they still break down in tears. these aren't tumblrites literally shaking with rage or requiring trigger warnings either, just normal fucking 18 year olds.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: As a white male I on November 16, 2013, 03:02:12 PM
Crybabies

Holy shit I can relate. It's even worse when it comes to filmwork, with a lot of people on the field being art students, the snowflakiest of all snowflakes. These days I'm really careful about weeding out any weaklings when choosing my production crew - and stay the fuck away from anything helmed by students/Gen-Y kids. They're the worst, I've had a bitch burst to tears when told to alter her script, another one throw a teary temper tantrum from being told her production is running two hours late and she needs to cut scenes. One director spent an hour crying because it rained (the scene was supposed to have a sunny weather).
When I encounter even the slightest sign of this kind of behavior I just smile, be polite, and cut them from any future productions. Because fuck that.

On the other hands, it's nice that probably half of the people graduating in this field are no competition.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: internetinternetinternet on November 16, 2013, 04:00:16 PM
here's a reddit that focuses on the plight of generation y - http://www.reddit.com/r/lostgeneration
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: LITERALLY A RAPIST on November 16, 2013, 07:31:19 PM
there's a lot less weeding out and more just passing people through but giving them a C-, which imo does a lot more harm because nobody in their right mind is going to hire an engineer with a 2.0 GPA. you'll get the odd story of the guy with a 2.7 or 2.5 getting one because of networking or falling into it, but when it comes to sheer numbers it's hard to explain why you came out of undergrad with only a bachelor's, no real projects, and nothing else to show except a 2.0 GPA. it's the kiss of death.

a lot of faculty don't want to be the bad guy, and nobody is willing to tell kids the truth. there's no shame in not being cut out for engineering, it's not for everyone. unfortunately we just say eh well maybe if you try really hard and stick it out, you'll get it. In the end it's just screwing people over. Even college in general, everyone is pushed to get an education and a 4 year degree when realistically a lot of students aren't interested or cut out for it. It's just not in their best interests at all. rather than tell them the truth and steer them towards vocational training or specialized certifications like X-ray technician or ultrasound tech we say no sweetie you should go and get the 4 year english degree and follow your dreams.

honestly goons are the worst about this one, because they romanticize college as if they're young men going off to school in 1912 to become 'better educated'. In reality, being 'better educated' is within everyone's grasp thanks to the public library system and the internet. It's an honest to god miracle that right now some kid on a farm in Nowhere, Kansas can go online and find talks about the significance of Plato's allegory of the cave, or he can look up youtube videos about control systems and circuit design. College now is a vocational institution.

I was visiting an ivy-league grad school that I have a snowball's chance of getting into and talking with the wife of a very distinguished research scientist, who also assists with the research (she's a MD). She was telling me about how in Brazil, tertiary education is free but you have to test into the programs since there's obviously limited slots. So you go straight from highschool, take a specialization test, and directly to medical school or wherever. It sounded like a great program and a system I would have no problem 100% supporting, but it's funny to picture how Americans would react to a program like that getting instituted.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: CaptainSpaulding on November 16, 2013, 07:54:38 PM
there's a lot less weeding out and more just passing people through but giving them a C-, which imo does a lot more harm because nobody in their right mind is going to hire an engineer with a 2.0 GPA. you'll get the odd story of the guy with a 2.7 or 2.5 getting one because of networking or falling into it, but when it comes to sheer numbers it's hard to explain why you came out of undergrad with only a bachelor's, no real projects, and nothing else to show except a 2.0 GPA. it's the kiss of death.
I had a shitty gpa when I graduated with my engineering degree, probably around 2.5.  What got me hired was that I worked two jobs at a time while I took classes.  It's one thing to get good grades when your education is handed to you, but showing that you can also bust your ass is important too.
I work with a guy who is almost boomer age, and he is the laziest shit I've ever seen.  A crybaby too.  It's not just the younger generations.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: MassiveMilitant on November 16, 2013, 07:58:03 PM
All men/xirs are not created equal, and the labor market is a great judge of value.

Even the trades weed out the weaklings and poor work ethics.

On the flip side, every individual can find something productive to do with their life if theyre willing to be honest with themselves about what theyre capable of and whats required by society and employers.

If all i could do was dig ditches, I'd dig a damn fine ditch. And I'd save my money to buy an excavator machine to increase ditch digging jobs. Maybe try to hire a couple ditch digger helpers. Eventually there might be two or more dig crews, and i'd need to stop working in the field just to coordinate orders and payroll.

You know, like every other business.


Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: A Nice Solid Bible on November 16, 2013, 08:52:22 PM
All men/xirs are not created equal, and the labor market is a great judge of value.

Even the trades weed out the weaklings and poor work ethics.

On the flip side, every individual can find something productive to do with their life if theyre willing to be honest with themselves about what theyre capable of and whats required by society and employers.

If all i could do was dig ditches, I'd dig a damn fine ditch. And I'd save my money to buy an excavator machine to increase ditch digging jobs. Maybe try to hire a couple ditch digger helpers. Eventually there might be two or more dig crews, and i'd need to stop working in the field just to coordinate orders and payroll.

You know, like every other business.

I think there is some level of frustration that many people experience when getting into their career, when they realize that technical proficiency, knowledge, or skill at their particular job is not the only thing that matters in advancing, and that in the workplace, politics, existing culture, and social acumen are as valuable as knowledge in terms of career advancement.

It isn't something that is taught in school, for the most part, and it seems like it is often downplayed in order to keep up the illusion that your degree is going to open every door you wish to go through. The lesson that experience trumps degrees in the hiring process is another tough lesson that should be fully explained before unleashing these retards into the hiring process.

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: MassiveMilitant on November 17, 2013, 01:39:51 PM
All men/xirs are not created equal, and the labor market is a great judge of value.

Even the trades weed out the weaklings and poor work ethics.

On the flip side, every individual can find something productive to do with their life if theyre willing to be honest with themselves about what theyre capable of and whats required by society and employers.

If all i could do was dig ditches, I'd dig a damn fine ditch. And I'd save my money to buy an excavator machine to increase ditch digging jobs. Maybe try to hire a couple ditch digger helpers. Eventually there might be two or more dig crews, and i'd need to stop working in the field just to coordinate orders and payroll.

You know, like every other business.

I think there is some level of frustration that many people experience when getting into their career, when they realize that technical proficiency, knowledge, or skill at their particular job is not the only thing that matters in advancing, and that in the workplace, politics, existing culture, and social acumen are as valuable as knowledge in terms of career advancement.

It isn't something that is taught in school, for the most part, and it seems like it is often downplayed in order to keep up the illusion that your degree is going to open every door you wish to go through. The lesson that experience trumps degrees in the hiring process is another tough lesson that should be fully explained before unleashing these retards into the hiring process.

Youre quite correct. There is a 'human' element to being a valuable productive person. Sales and marketing professions are built entirely around being able to make people like you and choose to do business with you based on your relationship. Most products are exactly the same, but people will stick by supplier with good sales persons.

Same in the workplace. Even in a corporate company, there will be mid and low level managers who's personal opinion of an employee will effect how that employee progresses and what kind of treatment they recieve.
One mistake in logic i often encounter when working with my generational peers is this idea that somehow because we all work together at the same place, we're all equal and deserve the same treatment.
We're not, and the mangement knows this and is far more willing to give the skilled labor side personal favors and essentially try to keep us happy so we dont free market choice our way to a better company.
The unskilled labor crew gets treated like shit, replaceable in a day and everyone but them knows it.
They often ask "how come he gets to...(cool thing)" or "how come i have to do...(shit grunt work)"

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: PUSSY CANCER on November 18, 2013, 11:28:52 AM
I think there is some level of frustration that many people experience when getting into their career, when they realize that technical proficiency, knowledge, or skill at their particular job is not the only thing that matters in advancing, and that in the workplace, politics, existing culture, and social acumen are as valuable as knowledge in terms of career advancement.

It isn't something that is taught in school, for the most part, and it seems like it is often downplayed in order to keep up the illusion that your degree is going to open every door you wish to go through. The lesson that experience trumps degrees in the hiring process is another tough lesson that should be fully explained before unleashing these retards into the hiring process.

Bingo.  This is something goons cannot comprehend, hence why they constantly preach for meritocracy.  Meritocracy sounds good upon first glance, but it's just another system used to validate narcissism when you realize it focuses solely on the individual instead of the whole.  There's more to being good for a job than just having all the right answers.  It doesn't matter how smart you are, no one wants to work with a goon sperg who literally shakes at the thought of the patriarchy and who can't take a joke. 
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Agent of Aspieonage on November 18, 2013, 12:26:05 PM
...but you are describing essential social skills, which are a PART of meritocracy. Someone fails in meritocracy if he or she cannot function socially and benefit the organization.

 :jesse:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: PUSSY CANCER on November 18, 2013, 12:38:19 PM
Communication is inherently oppressive and has no place in our meritocratic Maoist utopia
All future human communication will be done through public text centers sans smileys and emojicons
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Linebacker in a Dress on November 18, 2013, 02:49:50 PM
The last things the goons actually want is a meritocracy. Besides communications skills, merit is also measured by effort and labor, which goons are intensely allergic to.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Fade to Vanilla on November 18, 2013, 09:47:41 PM
I had a shitty gpa when I graduated with my engineering degree, probably around 2.5.  What got me hired was that I worked two jobs at a time while I took classes.  It's one thing to get good grades when your education is handed to you, but showing that you can also bust your ass is important too.
I work with a guy who is almost boomer age, and he is the laziest shit I've ever seen.  A crybaby too.  It's not just the younger generations.

The last things the goons actually want is a meritocracy. Besides communications skills, merit is also measured by effort and labor, which goons are intensely allergic to.

These 2 here.  As a Gen Xer I...

But seriously, I'm a hiring manager and could give a shit about GPA.  Bringing in a fresh grad engineer, I don't give two tugs if s/he aced Vector Field Theory or Compressible Fluid Flow & Dynamics because in the field, what matters is the application of the theory and how willing are you to get your hands dirty to get practical work done.

For the last year I have been teaching and mentoring at the local university in a course on business and applied engineering.  It's a very prestigious course (a mix of PhDs and MBAs) and ratio of applicants to accepted was about 8:1.  The number one question I got: "I want to be a manager in 3 years, what do I have to do?"  I get it from about half the class in one-on-one sessions.  None of them want to learn in the trenches.  None of them want to spend time enjoying being an engineer. And none of them want to get their hands dirty.  They want to sit at a terminal, designing shit in solidworks without any concept of design intent and collect annual review bonuses until X number of years pass and they are due their god-given manager's job.  it's been a stunning realization.  these are the best of the brightest and they just want to tell other people what to do even though they themselves have no idea what to do.

in a way, it's goony.  a bunch of keyboard experts with no clue of how adults work, just a desire to "tear the system down" because it's hierarchical and has rules.  yet they have no concept of why "the system" exists in the first place and that it's only this "system" that is the framework supporting large parts of society in the first place. 
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Linebacker in a Dress on November 18, 2013, 11:53:27 PM
I like the fact that college is widely available. I want the most people to have the most access to the most information as can be achieved.

The problem is that when college became an aspiration available to all, it carried with it the implicit message that the goal of all young people should be to go to college, get degrees, and not dig ditches/shovel shit/swing hammers. What does the hard working man who gave up his body to a life of labor tell his kids? "Go to college, don't do what I did."

Kids being kids hear a bit different message, which is "Hard work is for idiots."

I have no idea how we turn that around.

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on November 19, 2013, 12:02:29 AM
Of course they're trying to get into management. That's where you make the money, not being some worker bee that follows orders and then gets laid off as soon as it become convenient.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Fade to Vanilla on November 19, 2013, 12:30:53 AM
Of course they're trying to get into management. That's where you make the money, not being some worker bee that follows orders and then gets laid off as soon as it become convenient.

do you actually work? because that's the exact opposite of what happens in real life.  mid-level managers are the first people to get laid off during consolidations and in lean economies due to the large(r) salaries they draw.  working engineers are incredibly valuable and, in my personal experience of working in various silicon valley start-ups and having been through at least four rounds of layoffs due to fund raising or project cancellation, engineers are typically the last people considered for release due to the pure ability to get shit done. engineers can be reassigned to other departments or projects.  managers?  not so easily.

and i think you're missing the point of viewing the workplace with a fixed timeline to reach a title rather than actually being ready for it.  it's like saying "i wanna grow up to be president" for those with low aspirations.  much like SA mods, many people focused on gaining "manager positions" find they're ill-equipped to handle the responsibility of combination of overseeing the work and other people.  not to mention the idea of planning for a career before you've even entered the job market is cart-before-horse speculation.  again, i've found that in a mature engineering market place, you're looking at 7-10 years before you're seasoned enough to handle project and personnel oversight.  but that's my market. 

edit: finally, it's also a very asian-thing, since the idea of job titles are a huge status thing and quite often pursued in order to please parents (for bragging rights) rather than because the individual is actually ready for it or even enjoys the work.  "title inflation" here is a real thing like "grade inflation" in education.  we learn locally that certain titles issued by certain organizations (often governmental) are meaningless and not to be compared to western job titles of the same name.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on November 19, 2013, 12:41:02 AM
Of course they're trying to get into management. That's where you make the money, not being some worker bee that follows orders and then gets laid off as soon as it become convenient.

do you actually work? because that's the exact opposite of what happens in real life.  mid-level managers are the first people to get laid off in consolidations and in lean economies due to the large(r) salaries they draw.  working engineers are incredibly valuable and, in my personal experience of working in various silicon valley start-ups and having been through at least four rounds of layoffs due to fund raising or project cancellation, engineers are typically the last people considered for released due to the pure ability to get shit done. engineers can be reassigned to other departments or projects.  managers?  not so easily.

and i think you're missing the point of viewing the workplace with a fixed timeline to reach a title rather than actually being ready for it.  it's like saying "i wanna be president" for those with low aspirations.  much like SA mods, many people in focused on gaining "manager positions" find they're ill-equipped to handle the responsibility of combination of overseeing the work and other people.  not to mention the idea of planning for a career before you've even entered the job market is cart-before-horse speculation.  again, i've found that in a mature engineering market place, you're looking at 7-10 years before you're seasoned enough to handle project and personnel oversight.  but that's my market.
Yes I do. The middle managers might get laid off, but it's in their best interests to get there as soon as possible. Since they're in this special program you teach or whatever, they're probably regarded as highly knowledgeable by others which is probably where a lot of the cart before the horse speculation is.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: A Nice Solid Bible on November 19, 2013, 01:10:35 AM
do you actually work? because that's the exact opposite of what happens in real life.  mid-level managers are the first people to get laid off during consolidations and in lean economies due to the large(r) salaries they draw.  working engineers are incredibly valuable and, in my personal experience of working in various silicon valley start-ups and having been through at least four rounds of layoffs due to fund raising or project cancellation, engineers are typically the last people considered for release due to the pure ability to get shit done. engineers can be reassigned to other departments or projects.  managers?  not so easily.

This is mostly true, depending on how you look at it.

There is a bit of a problem in certain engineering fields right now of too many older engineers retiring at once and taking brainloads of important knowledge with them, leading to weird situations like retirees being recruited back to work as consultants at company reunions, and a desperate attempt at "knowledge transfer" because the younger guys have no idea wtf these guys have been doing for the last thirty years because nobody bothered to write it down.

It's really a clusterfuck, only exacerbated by the massive push on high paid older engineers and technical people to accept early retirement deals during the leaner times.

The secondary problem is that during the great boom, a lot of the expansion at some of the larger companies was made up largely of contractors, both in technical and project management roles, who got culled in huge numbers as they tried to fall back on in-house engineers who no longer had any idea what was going on.

I ran into a guy at a bar that had gotten saddled with trying to do something with a large project my company had worked on (as consultants) and they were still trying to untangle things, because nobody that actually worked on the project still existed, and as usually happens, documentation and "knowledge transfer" were bumped in favor of resume padding achievements and wins. (agile. lol.)

It really depends on what size operation you are working for. Once a company hits a certain size, there are so many layers of people trying to hit their next review milestones that planning for the future is secondary and mostly a hindrance to the people running the show, and when that happens, nobody is safe. If you're working for a smaller shop that relies on employee output, your statement holds true.

Rule of thumb at large companies, keep tabs on how much they feed you. Because the meals/snacks/team building events are the first things to go, and once that happens it's only a matter of time before people start going.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: LITERALLY A RAPIST on November 19, 2013, 09:13:53 AM
i've never worked as 'management', but I've been in charge of 3-4 people before in the Army and outside of it as well. it was always shitty. even if 3 out of 4 of your people are great and do fine, there's always the problem child that you either spend time trying to fix or just saying fuck it and making everyone else unfairly cover the weight. as the guy in charge, you get shit on when things go wrong because you're the boss, but when you're handing down direction nobody wants to look at you as the boss. a lot of times there's been 'latitude' in the amount of direction given, leading to either trying to figure out what the person above me wants and translating it down or having to do some serious interpretation. it's shitty, and even for extra pay it's not worth having the extra hours and responsibility. being a worker bee is great because you're not in charge of shit. you just do what your boss tells you. you don't have to worry about the tough problems, or what Mike in the cubicle next to you is doing. you just keep your eyes on your slice of the pie and stay in your lane.

I've def noticed a trend though with Gen Y wanting to be the managers, part of it I think is schools pushing MBAs on 22-25 year olds with almost no work experience. I have no idea why these people think that people working in a company for 10-20 years are going to readily accept or respect a 26 year old with 2 years of work experience and a MBA as a leader, but then again Gen Y never asks the hard questions. PhDs being managers contributes to part of the fucked up system imo. A PhD says you're good at one thing: research, and developing experimental models. If you stay in academia, you get your PhD and then head up a lab at somewhere university. You don't do research personally so much as direct students towards research and manage the lab while teaching on the side. It's not the best of systems because you're taking a talented researcher and just throwing them into a manager/administrator role.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on November 19, 2013, 02:31:25 PM
Another day, another Gen Y'er flames out of a job in a blaze of "glory" because working for The Man is boring and she can't be true to her real selfz yo!

http://gawker.com/this-is-the-best-i-quit-email-youll-read-all-week-1467082884?utm_source=recirculation&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=tuesdayAM

TLDR some 22 year old chick goes to school for accounting, gets a degree, does 2 internships and lands a job at a big firm. She does this for a few months, decides auditing is lame, her co-workers are a bunch of phonies straight out of the Holden Caufield playbook, so she quits. And does so by writing a long, rambling, self-absorbed email with stupid pop culture references, twee "I'm young so I know more about social media and twitter then your" references, and of course the idiots at Gawker fellate her.

She probably imagines she'll go on to some amazing career as a Media Personality and be all creative with her work instead of working for dumb old boring white guys.

She does an "interview" here:
http://www.noircpa.com/2013/11/woman-behind-pwc-farewell-email-speaks.html
Where she goes on to say all those dumb oldsters just don't understand her and are probably racist.

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"I was just living my truth at that moment. I pressed send and I felt so free."
:goonette:

No honey, you're not a dumb nigger. You're a dumb Gen Y vapid narcissist. As one of the few good comments on Gawker said,
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My guess:

1. This person is 21, maybe 22, tops, and has never held a permanent full-time job.

2. This person lives at home with two helicopter parents who have spent her entire life telling her what a special snowflake she is.

3. This is probably not the first such email she's sent. I suspect she quit all of her work-study positions in college the exact same way.

Please do the world a favor and unredact the names so no one else will make the same mistake PwC made when they hired her.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Doctor Jizzmopper on November 19, 2013, 03:05:22 PM

Beyonce can sing and dance live without lip singing and do it well. She doesn't need autotune or a background track to make her the Queen. All she needs is a mic, some heels, and her fabulous Brazilian and Malaysian wig to swing around. Can't say the same for Britt. Sorry girl!
Beyonce has much more class.
Beyonce's music transcends culture. Britt....uh....well, that stopped a few world tours ago.
Beyonce has continued to get better and better over time. Her vocals are stronger than ever. Not to mention, after popping out Baby Blue she was back at it. She didn't get all washed up and boring like Britt did.
Beyonce is on some presidential ish. Didn't you watch President Obama and First Lady Michelle's first dance? Or the inauguration performance? Haven't you kept up with the Let's Move campaign (Bey and First Lady Michelle's initiative to solve the epidemic of childhood obesity? ) Well, Bey has been on! Britt has stayed in the shadows. #sorrybutnotsorry #getyourlife
Beyonce killed the Superbowl half time show solo dolo. Britt and NSYNC did that back in the 90s...but that was the 90s...and she wasn't solo dolo...so Bey wins!
Beyonce can dance her butt off. She has rythym. Britt used to be able to ...but she is stiff now. I'm sorry..
Beyonce has stage presence. I don't think you know what that is but you can Google it. It's basically something Britt doesn't have.
Beyonce is the QUEEN. She is the best performer alive. Bottom line, no gimmicks!
Beyonce wins and now that I'm out of here, I win too!!! #doingtheharlemshakeasitype


This is how Gen CrY quits a job.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Bitter Weirdo on November 19, 2013, 03:32:44 PM
It's typical Gen Y narcissism with a side order of ghetto mentality thrown in.  Like we've seen so many times before, this chick doesn't realize that any potential employer googling her name will get to view this massively unprofessional temper tantrum/ resignation letter in all it's glory.

There is literally nothing in this thing that is any way redeeming or which cast's it's writer in a good light. Hopefully she enjoys her next job dancing on tables more than auditing. Dumb ass chick, I understand PWC is a pretty good gig.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dental Grade Dildo on November 19, 2013, 05:08:49 PM

Beyonce can sing and dance live without lip singing and do it well. She doesn't need autotune or a background track to make her the Queen. All she needs is a mic, some heels, and her fabulous Brazilian and Malaysian wig to swing around. Can't say the same for Britt. Sorry girl!
Beyonce has much more class.
Beyonce's music transcends culture. Britt....uh....well, that stopped a few world tours ago.
Beyonce has continued to get better and better over time. Her vocals are stronger than ever. Not to mention, after popping out Baby Blue she was back at it. She didn't get all washed up and boring like Britt did.
Beyonce is on some presidential ish. Didn't you watch President Obama and First Lady Michelle's first dance? Or the inauguration performance? Haven't you kept up with the Let's Move campaign (Bey and First Lady Michelle's initiative to solve the epidemic of childhood obesity? ) Well, Bey has been on! Britt has stayed in the shadows. #sorrybutnotsorry #getyourlife
Beyonce killed the Superbowl half time show solo dolo. Britt and NSYNC did that back in the 90s...but that was the 90s...and she wasn't solo dolo...so Bey wins!
Beyonce can dance her butt off. She has rythym. Britt used to be able to ...but she is stiff now. I'm sorry..
Beyonce has stage presence. I don't think you know what that is but you can Google it. It's basically something Britt doesn't have.
Beyonce is the QUEEN. She is the best performer alive. Bottom line, no gimmicks!
Beyonce wins and now that I'm out of here, I win too!!! #doingtheharlemshakeasitype


This is how Gen CrY quits a job.

I thought you had gone and copy/pasted a bunch of unrelated tweets she made. I fucking chortled when I clicked the link and saw all the above was actually in the email.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danish Plastic Bigotry on November 19, 2013, 07:33:18 PM
Triggers: Beyonce




also holy fuck that interview site

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NOIR CPA:

Inspiring and Supporting the Black Accounting Community


that's gotta be a smaller niche market than that lesbian butcher shop, oh lawdy
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on November 19, 2013, 08:15:58 PM
Black women who haven't been beaten to death by their boyfriend Tyrone have been flocking to accounting since it isn't hard to be a passable accountant.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: cis scum 1.0 on November 19, 2013, 09:16:44 PM

Beyonce can sing and dance live without lip singing and do it well. She doesn't need autotune or a background track to make her the Queen. All she needs is a mic, some heels, and her fabulous Brazilian and Malaysian wig to swing around. Can't say the same for Britt. Sorry girl!
Beyonce has much more class.
Beyonce's music transcends culture. Britt....uh....well, that stopped a few world tours ago.
Beyonce has continued to get better and better over time. Her vocals are stronger than ever. Not to mention, after popping out Baby Blue she was back at it. She didn't get all washed up and boring like Britt did.
Beyonce is on some presidential ish. Didn't you watch President Obama and First Lady Michelle's first dance? Or the inauguration performance? Haven't you kept up with the Let's Move campaign (Bey and First Lady Michelle's initiative to solve the epidemic of childhood obesity? ) Well, Bey has been on! Britt has stayed in the shadows. #sorrybutnotsorry #getyourlife
Beyonce killed the Superbowl half time show solo dolo. Britt and NSYNC did that back in the 90s...but that was the 90s...and she wasn't solo dolo...so Bey wins!
Beyonce can dance her butt off. She has rythym. Britt used to be able to ...but she is stiff now. I'm sorry..
Beyonce has stage presence. I don't think you know what that is but you can Google it. It's basically something Britt doesn't have.
Beyonce is the QUEEN. She is the best performer alive. Bottom line, no gimmicks!
Beyonce wins and now that I'm out of here, I win too!!! #doingtheharlemshakeasitype


This is how Gen CrY quits a job.

I thought you had gone and copy/pasted a bunch of unrelated tweets she made. I fucking chortled when I clicked the link and saw all the above was actually in the email.

I thought he had just written something trying to sound like a gen y entitled cunt

turns out it's real :myecred:

fuck this gay worthless generation
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Linebacker in a Dress on November 19, 2013, 09:21:43 PM
Get the feeling that her resignation was greeted with a general consensus of "Thank god we got away from that bitch without eating a lawsuit."
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Launchpad McQuack on November 19, 2013, 09:29:39 PM
Didn't see this thread before. Funny because I just had a conversation with my brother about Gen Y.

He's in the Gen Y age group and talks about how it benefits him. He went to a state school, B student or whatever. Nothing special. But he's doing well in the job world because he says he's the only young guy willing to come in on Saturdays when they ask and start early on certain days when they have new hires. All the others either complained or just made excuses why they couldn't. So when his boss got promoted she promoted him to her old position. So he's 25 and making like $80k a year with benefits. Not bad at that age.

One story he told is they hired some people to start at an entry level position in the lab. One guy showed up Monday and then didn't show up Tuesday or Wednesday. No phone calls, no e-mails, just didn't show up without a word. They all thought he just didn't like the job and wrote him off. But get this, he shows up on Thursday like nothing happened. I can't tell if that's pathetic or if the guy has a huge set of balls.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: PUSSY CANCER on November 19, 2013, 10:45:53 PM
The last things the goons actually want is a meritocracy. Besides communications skills, merit is also measured by effort and labor, which goons are intensely allergic to.

lol have you ever read a D&D communism thread?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: nerdball on November 19, 2013, 11:57:36 PM
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Let's keep it real, partners are treated as if they're royalty. The reality is, THEY'RE NOT! They are average Joe's like you and I, only their pockets are a little bigger. So, there is no need to wait at the partner's feet acting like you'll do any and everything to please them. For what? No need to come in early just to greet the partner on the job. No need to act like you're such an overachiever by doing all of these unnecessary things. If you're an overachiever, be a real one..not a phony. No need to wait until the partner leaves during busy season only to leave 20 minutes later. Your time is just as valuable, are the partners God? I don't think so...#don'tbeasellout #thepartnerisgoinghometoeathisorherwarmsupper #whileyouarefakeauditng #weallknownooneisproductiveafterabout7pm #gohomeandcuddleupwithyourkids #ohandspousestoo #isntthatwhatthepartnersaredoing? #ohwellsIdigress

 :facepalm:

I've been thinking about changing career fields. Apparently, I need to look at Deloitte and PwC because they'll hire any idiot off the street.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Fade to Vanilla on November 20, 2013, 12:52:02 AM
Another day, another Gen Y'er flames out of a job in a blaze of "glory" because working for The Man is boring and she can't be true to her real selfz yo!

http://gawker.com/this-is-the-best-i-quit-email-youll-read-all-week-1467082884?utm_source=recirculation&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=tuesdayAM

TLDR some 22 year old chick goes to school for accounting, gets a degree, does 2 internships and lands a job at a big firm. She does this for a few months, decides auditing is lame, her co-workers are a bunch of phonies straight out of the Holden Caufield playbook, so she quits. And does so by writing a long, rambling, self-absorbed email with stupid pop culture references, twee "I'm young so I know more about social media and twitter then your" references, and of course the idiots at Gawker fellate her.

oh lord, where to start with that mess? but mostly, holy lawls that this bitch was only there since september. 

regardless: this is part of what i was talking about before with planning a career before you've even got any work experience.  i know too many people who have stories like this.  part of it is unrealistic expectations that "work is just like college except you get PAY-YED".  the other is the fact that in a mega-corp like PwC, you gotta pay some big dues to climb.  i said in my industry 7-10 years is about right to expect a bump to management if that's your cuppa, but other industries will vary.  i bet at a group like PwC, you're looking at 12-15 before you merit anything of significance outside your building.

but auditing?  it's shit to start but you can write your fucking ticket anywhere after.  yeah the first few years are rough ("hello?  it's dues paying time") but since you get to see the internal systems of so many companies and can learn what works, what doesn't and how to build systems from the ground up, if you're remotely competent you become super valuable to any small-to-mid-size organization and you can go practically anywhere.  and if you can get exposure to a comapny which goes through a public offering?  that's invaluable. 

this fucking idiot pretty much blew that chance.  which is great since she sounds retawded.

He's in the Gen Y age group and talks about how it benefits him. He went to a state school, B student or whatever. Nothing special. But he's doing well in the job world because he says he's the only young guy willing to come in on Saturdays when they ask and start early on certain days when they have new hires. All the others either complained or just made excuses why they couldn't. So when his boss got promoted she promoted him to her old position. So he's 25 and making like $80k a year with benefits. Not bad at that age.

it's sad that this is all it takes but in the land of the blind ...

but good for him, srsly.

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One story he told is they hired some people to start at an entry level position in the lab. One guy showed up Monday and then didn't show up Tuesday or Wednesday. No phone calls, no e-mails, just didn't show up without a word. They all thought he just didn't like the job and wrote him off. But get this, he shows up on Thursday like nothing happened. I can't tell if that's pathetic or if the guy has a huge set of balls.

they honestly don't know any better sometimes.  or else just can't fathom what an actual commitment is.

To be fair I got a management gig 2.5 years after I started my job.  I've been in the management role for two years now and doing well.

i didn't mean to speak for all/other industries or in absolutes, because there are always gonna be good Gen Y workers and candidates which are exceptions, along with shit-Boomers/X'ers etc., but overall the trends i've seen are just pretty awful for the incoming workers.

again, it's awesome that it's working out for you.  but i also think it's not a coincidence that your work and personal ethics that have worked out for you in your professional life have also led you to be a poster at a HTFU-style site like SS.

edit: and then with this bitch posting a race-heavy email, and then gets called out for acting like a knee-gress.  then trots out with the classic "das rayciss' ".  "i took 2 internships and then went into the industry after and hated it."  w-t-f were you doing during the internships that you had no idea what to expect in industry?  getting coffee?  blowing the partners?  she might be a high-functioning retard.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Linebacker in a Dress on November 20, 2013, 09:12:32 AM
lol have you ever read a D&D communism thread?

that's, like, all the D&D threads so you'll have to be more specific
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: As a white male I on November 20, 2013, 10:51:20 AM
lol have you ever read a D&D communism thread?

that's, like, all the D&D threads so you'll have to be more specific

Well for any sane person the answer should still be no.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mullah Omar on November 20, 2013, 11:10:24 AM
As a nutter who sometimes lurks parts of D&D, I can say the threads are full of people saying they want a job and its the market letting them down, which it is for a lot of people... yet then they turn their nose up at work because they think they are too good for it. Not just after a couple of months of unemployment. 8 months and onwards. At that point its time to do some graft if you can get it, cunts.

See: UKMT poster who turned his nose up at working at Poundland.

The Marxism megathread though I can't read because I've yet to read Das Kapital and a bunch of Marxist primer material. For all I know they could be mashing up bits of Marxist jargon and not making any sense, even if you know Marx etc.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 888 Didnt Read Shit on November 20, 2013, 08:24:39 PM
As a nutter who sometimes lurks parts of D&D, I can say the threads are full of people saying they want a job and its the market letting them down, which it is for a lot of people... yet then they turn their nose up at work because they think they are too good for it. Not just after a couple of months of unemployment. 8 months and onwards. At that point its time to do some graft if you can get it, cunts.

Pro-read right here.

What a lot of people, just not goons, is that you've always had to work your ass off to get a job, even before the market went to shit.  You still had to send out a hundred or more applications if you were looking for work.  Some people get lucky and have contacts to get them a job immediately after an old one.  That's not always the case.  When you're between jobs, you often have to send our TONS of applications.  It fucking sucks.

The job market has made that considerably worse, yes.

However, just like before the market died, you have to eventually work.  At a certain point, any functioning adult would say "well I need to suck it up and take a job waiting tables while I'm looking".  Yes, those jobs ARE STILL OUT THERE.  You may have to work 2 or 3 nowadays because none will take you full time.

Life is full of unfair moments.  Gen Y faggot goons want to believe that its all or nothing.  You have to eventually do what you need to do to survive.  The answer there is to work some menial work to at least show you have moxie and determination.

Resume "holes" are one thing.  Not doing ANYTHING in a 6-8 month period because you didn't find the job in your career path is quite another.  Employers will understand if you say, "well, I was looking for work, but in the meantime I had to work at X in order to pay the bills".  In fact, I would be MORE impressed with a potential hire who did that than a guy who said he stayed at home playing warhammer at his parent's place.  I would trust the guy who was able to suck it up to be more dependable when shit hit the fan at the job.

The kind of person who thinks he's "too good" for menial labor jobs when that's their only option is also very likely the kind of guy who thinks he's "too good" for the job, or "smarter than everyone else at work".  You know, the kind of cunty personality that makes for a terrible co-worker that you wouldn't want around to begin with.

Anyway, that's my :clint: of the day.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on November 20, 2013, 10:13:04 PM
To be fair to Gen Whine, we're entering into a period where production is rapidly outpacing labor.  In other words, we don't need as many people to do work as we used to.  Computers pretty much wiped out sizable sections of the workforce.  You used to have a secretary pool, you used to need a bunch of engineers to do hand written calculations that can now do in two minutes on a program, and you can analyze large pools of data almost instantly through Excel.  As recent as 20 years ago, you still needed a lot of these people.  The workplace structure is getting flatter as you don't need as many people throughout all layers of the corporate structure: we need fewer analysts, secretaries/administrative assistants/office managers/whatever feelgood phrase to apply to women in administrative roles, and fewer managers.

The conflict with Gen Whine is that most of them have no ingenuity or entrepreneurial skills.  In the 1940s and 1950s, there was a boom in new businesses due to the GI Bill.  Now you have a bunch of out of work sociology majors whose job skills is whining about the patriarchy.  Their whole lives was a preparation for a comfy government gig where they made $35 an hour, awesome benefits, and a full pension.  So now that that is not an option for 95%+ of the workforce, most of them are sitting, whining and crying.  The thing is, being on the management side, is that the longer you sit and do nothing, the more unemployable you are.  Even a government privilege checker is going to hire someone motivated vs. someone who sat on their ass for three years posting on their Tumblr account about The Lost Generation.  These fucks don't know how to Google to start learning to how to do programming or volunteering for something.

I guess what I'm saying is that I do sympathize that the job market is shit but they're doing a shit job of dealing with it.  A lot of these people will be The Lost Generation because employers aren't going to want to hire someone who sat on their ass during the recession.  There are fresh, motivated graduates who will get hired over some mopey 28 year old fat chick who complains about Wonder Woman's costume.  These fucks should just do society a favor and eat lead because they will never be a societal net positive.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danger-Weiner on November 20, 2013, 10:14:45 PM
maybe obamacare will wipe them all out lol
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Slacktivist on November 21, 2013, 10:53:53 AM
holy shit and in the end a friend co-signed a fucking loan so he didn't have to drop out anyway

I think this is the first time I've wanted to unironically say Check Your Privilege. Fucking first world retard.

"I wasn't going to be able to pursue my third degree......... but then a friend co-signed a loan lol nbd. Soon I can escape the Poverty Line."
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on November 21, 2013, 12:19:18 PM
Lollerskates:
http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/20/girl-who-got-punched-in-head-gives-lame-liberal-speech-humanizing-her-attackers-video/

Quote
Phoebe Connolly, who was punched in the face and laughed at by a group of teenagers playing the random and sometimes fatal “Knockout” game in my own obscenely terrible neighborhood of Columbia Heights in Washington, D.C., appeared with Greta Van Susteren Wednesday night to describe her ordeal.

At the end of her segment, Connolly used her platform to ramble on in a ridiculous, naive and distinctly Gen-Y speech about the importance of youth programs.

Quote
:goonette:: I ultimately, I’ve moved past it and I really have no hard feelings about what has happened. And I just see it as another reason why we need to better support our youth with activities and youth programs, which is actually what I do for work, and it’s great to see teenagers do incredible things when they’re supported and empowered.

Quote
Did your attacker say “I really wish a responsible adult would listen to me” before he cold-cocked you? Did he have a little poem in his shirt pocket that he was really hoping an inspirational teacher would let him read to the class before he split your face open with one blow?

No, actually the kid who punched you yelled “Wapow” before his friends laughed, according to your segment.

Is this what we’re becoming as a country? Violent hooligans run rampant in our streets like out of some kind of dystopian fantasy and we all have to “move past” it and appreciate that they just need some more pointless after-school activities mostly funded by wasted taxpayer dollars that could have gone to police budgets?

More importantly, I think the question here is why do Ted Cruz and the Koch Brothers seethe with such hatred for underprivileged children that they don’t want to allocate billions in federal subsidies so that our young felons can have some Master’s degree moron read them “Goodnight, Moon”?

Just remember: the delinquents committing unspeakable acts of atrocity that fly in the face of decency, civility, and humanity itself are the real victims here.
:nixon:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hollywood Shabat Goy Yaro on November 21, 2013, 02:00:28 PM
Once again what the Christ is wrong with the vast majority of my generation?  :facepalm:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 888 Didnt Read Shit on November 21, 2013, 08:00:40 PM
Once again what the Christ is wrong with the vast majority of my generation?  :facepalm:

Lack of personal responsibility.

Because the 60s fucking happened and then those faggots became parents who told their kids nothing is their fault.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danish Plastic Bigotry on November 21, 2013, 08:36:07 PM
holy shit and in the end a friend co-signed a fucking loan so he didn't have to drop out anyway

I think this is the first time I've wanted to unironically say Check Your Privilege. Fucking first world retard.

"I wasn't going to be able to pursue my third degree......... but then a friend co-signed a loan lol nbd. Soon I can escape the Poverty Line."


hahahaha anyone stupid enough to co-sign a loan like that deserves to get burned

also btw if anyone here can spot me for my english degree I will upvote your comments, my thesis is on genderqueer interpretations of beowulf
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Trump is the New Norma on November 21, 2013, 09:57:02 PM
Once again what the Christ is wrong with the vast majority of my generation?  :facepalm:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: internetinternetinternet on November 23, 2013, 01:12:08 AM
i have no idea what the market out there is like for people my age. the government paid for my school and then gave me a good paying job as soon as i graduated. all i know is that all of my friends managed to get salaried jobs at most 6 months out of school so it can't be that bad. :/
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danger-Weiner on November 23, 2013, 01:26:44 AM
i have no idea what the market out there is like for people my age. the government paid for my school and then gave me a good paying job as soon as i graduated. all i know is that all of my friends managed to get salaried jobs at most 6 months out of school so it can't be that bad. :/

(http://i.imgur.com/wWbuE4b.jpg)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mullah Omar on November 23, 2013, 03:05:31 AM
i have no idea what the market out there is like for people my age. the government paid for my school and then gave me a good paying job as soon as i graduated. all i know is that all of my friends managed to get salaried jobs at most 6 months out of school so it can't be that bad. :/

The US economy is recovering faster than most of Europe, and it depends on the area of the country itself. Also probably had the sense to do a degree and know there is work at the end.

Also a note, Gen Y shitiness isn't just a problem is with unemployment. When a self centred narcissitic sort becomes a manager say goodbye to competitiveness and improvement in work efficiency. They'd rather ignore you. Nice one.

Bad enough with complacent old ones. 3 pairs of scissors to a sorting depot? Not going to fix that problem just going to shrug even though getting scissors and keeping them in the required locations would speed up worker efficiency.

The gooks are going to continue to outpace the West, especially the individualistic Anglo Saxon countries, in every way. Improved efficiency and cheap labour costs. And when they have good quality control that's what is left of our industry fucked other than the kraut ran stuff.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: The Trumpriarch on November 23, 2013, 04:06:04 AM
The gooks are going to continue to outpace the West, especially the individualistic Anglo Saxon countries, in every way. Improved efficiency and cheap labour costs. And when they have good quality control that's what is left of our industry fucked other than the kraut ran stuff.

They're not a very creative or risk taking people.  Once they latch on to something, they run that shit into the ground and them some.  The 80s were a bit of an anomaly in that regard, but they've gone back to their old habits.  When was the last time an Asian company created a whole new type of product?  I'm not sure I'd even count something like BluRay, but even if you did, what else?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on November 23, 2013, 11:19:17 AM
It is tough out there for anyone that didn't go to top schools and get groomed for wall street jobs. It's not unemployed for 2 years living with parents tough though. From what I can tell, I'm guessing a lot of the goons problems are they refuse to move to places that have jobs.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 888 Didnt Read Shit on November 23, 2013, 12:19:44 PM
i have no idea what the market out there is like for people my age. the government paid for my school and then gave me a good paying job as soon as i graduated. all i know is that all of my friends managed to get salaried jobs at most 6 months out of school so it can't be that bad. :/

I watched everyone else around me in school look for jobs at the same time as myself (in 2012/2013). I had offers all over Wall Street, and so did most of my friends - our issue was selecting between them. The major factor here is that all of us put hundreds and hundreds of hours into the job search, with networking being the central part of that. I have an Excel sheet with multiple bankers at basically every single firm that I talked to (dozens of firms), with notes about what I talked to them about, how the process there works, tips for getting through the notoriously brutal recruitment process (in which, on average, there are ~1000-5000 applicants per position), etc. I cataloged and detailed everything I did in autistic-detail because this is my career, and it's the most important thing in the world to me.

And then there is everyone else I went to school with. They did not have this culture of grinding through networking and working your ass off to find a job. They didn't spend an hour or two a day on the phone with strangers, having the same fucking conversation literally 50-100 times over the course of a few months. They weren't spending 10+ hours per week studying a huge range of topics so that you could never be surprised in an interview setting (as those firms are all notorious for trying to get you to crack during interviews). They waited until school was ending, panicked, and started looking for work. And then they graduated without a job.

I don't want to fucking hear, from anyone, about how hard it is to find a job. It's not. Everyone from my "banker" circle of friends found a job at a great firm. It's called work your ass off, sacrifice your social life, and get shit done. While my non-banker friends spent a week long break in a different state partying, I sat and studied interview questions. While they all hung out with their families over Christmas break, I sat at home and cold-emailed people at the firms I wanted to go to. And it paid off.

So fuck that notion that "its tough out there" in regards to gaining employment. It's not. I did it, and the jobs I went for are far, far more difficult to get than essentially any other job in this country outside of professional athlete and astronaut. If it was "tough" out there for you, you fucked up - either in your work ethic or in your choices. Period.

sassmine this shit.

It can still be hard to find a job in some fields even with all that hard work, but the post is like 99% true so.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Trump is the New Norma on November 23, 2013, 12:26:39 PM
It is tough out there for anyone that didn't go to top schools and get groomed for wall street jobs. It's not unemployed for 2 years living with parents tough though. From what I can tell, I'm guessing a lot of the goons problems are they refuse to move to places that have jobs.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 888 Didnt Read Shit on November 23, 2013, 03:36:16 PM
It is tough out there for anyone that didn't go to top schools and get groomed for wall street jobs. It's not unemployed for 2 years living with parents tough though. From what I can tell, I'm guessing a lot of the goons problems are they refuse to move to places that have jobs.

Not going to a top school is a personal choice/the result of your poor choices. I, nor any of my peers, were "groomed" for a Wall Street job - we worked our asses off for it because it is so insanely competitive. You are competing at the top talent coming out of the top schools and programs around the country. Unless your dad is someone very connected (which accounts for maybe 1 out of every 50 incoming bankers), it's all about how hard you work and how well you prepare.

I accepted this formula and have used it, many times, to accomplish life goals. Is it easy? Actually, much of the time, it is. You just have to make smart, realistic plans and be faithful in your execution. Goons want to be handed the end result, step 4, but there is no step 4. Step 4 is simply starting at step 1 again.

This is what I try to tell people all the time. Up until I decided to work in finance, I never "worked hard". I still made a shit ton of money and had a great career. For the vast majority of fields, it doesn't require hard work. It requires that recognize your goals, do the research on how to get there, build your plan, and stick to it. That's it.

The problem is you're talking about a generation that thinks just showing up is "hard work".  We had a great thread about this on TNE.

Your 20s are where you're supposed to be fucking sacrificing yourself to buidl your life.  Yeah, your social life will suffer, yeah, you won't be out having as much fun as your peers blowing all their time and money on ridic trips and shit.  But when you hit 30, all of a sudden you have a career build up and tons of fucking money to have a great effing life.

The guys who sailed through life wasting their 20s hit 30 and are just regular faggots stuck doing regular faggot things.

You need to sacrifice to make it in this world.  People want to believe just doing "normal" shit is sacrifice.  NO, missing out on other shit so that you can meet your long-term goals is what sacrifice is.  It fucking sucks when it's happening, but when you hit that goal line,  you realize it was all worth it.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Trump is the New Norma on November 23, 2013, 03:36:56 PM
It is tough out there for anyone that didn't go to top schools and get groomed for wall street jobs.
I also would like to comment on this wording, and what it reveals about you. Your remarks about "top schools" and being "groomed" attribute outcomes to forces other than the individual. This is called an external locus of control. Look it up, it's enlightening.

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: CaptainSpaulding on November 23, 2013, 03:53:11 PM
I didn't go to a top school or get groomed for a wall street job. The problem is that goons fail to accept that there is only one formula to get shit done, whether that's getting a job, losing weight, making money, or anything else. It's the most obvious shit ever yet so many use excuses to avoid it.

1. Decide, specifically, what you want
2. Make a plan to get it
3. Execute the plan

I accepted this formula and have used it, many times, to accomplish life goals. Is it easy? Actually, much of the time, it is. You just have to make smart, realistic plans and be faithful in your execution. Goons want to be handed the end result, step 4, but there is no step 4. Step 4 is simply starting at step 1 again.
Another problem with a lot of people is they do follow this formula:
1. Want to get paid for something no one wants to pay for, like web comics or navel gazing
2. Plan to force people to pay for it anyway
3. Vote for Obama

For other things, instead of conforming to the ideal they just try to force the acceptance of their flaws. 

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on November 23, 2013, 04:46:18 PM
It is tough out there for anyone that didn't go to top schools and get groomed for wall street jobs.
I also would like to comment on this wording, and what it reveals about you. Your remarks about "top schools" and being "groomed" attribute outcomes to forces other than the individual. This is called an external locus of control. Look it up, it's enlightening.
Unless I'm confusing RRail with someone else, he's the one who went to an Ivy League finance school which guess what, gets groomed by wall street/bankers to come work for them. It's obviously not a guaranteed position, but with his credentials he's guaranteed a job somewhere, which can't be said for a lot of majors/schools.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Agent of Aspieonage on November 23, 2013, 05:24:27 PM
It is tough out there for anyone that didn't go to top schools and get groomed for wall street jobs. It's not unemployed for 2 years living with parents tough though. From what I can tell, I'm guessing a lot of the goons problems are they refuse to move to places that have jobs.

Not going to a top school is a personal choice/the result of your poor choices. I, nor any of my peers, were "groomed" for a Wall Street job - we worked our asses off for it because it is so insanely competitive. You are competing at the top talent coming out of the top schools and programs around the country. Unless your dad is someone very connected (which accounts for maybe 1 out of every 50 incoming bankers), it's all about how hard you work and how well you prepare.

I accepted this formula and have used it, many times, to accomplish life goals. Is it easy? Actually, much of the time, it is. You just have to make smart, realistic plans and be faithful in your execution. Goons want to be handed the end result, step 4, but there is no step 4. Step 4 is simply starting at step 1 again.

This is what I try to tell people all the time. Up until I decided to work in finance, I never "worked hard". I still made a shit ton of money and had a great career. For the vast majority of fields, it doesn't require hard work. It requires that recognize your goals, do the research on how to get there, build your plan, and stick to it. That's it.

The problem is you're talking about a generation that thinks just showing up is "hard work".  We had a great thread about this on TNE.

Your 20s are where you're supposed to be fucking sacrificing yourself to buidl your life.  Yeah, your social life will suffer, yeah, you won't be out having as much fun as your peers blowing all their time and money on ridic trips and shit.  But when you hit 30, all of a sudden you have a career build up and tons of fucking money to have a great effing life.

The guys who sailed through life wasting their 20s hit 30 and are just regular faggots stuck doing regular faggot things.

You need to sacrifice to make it in this world.  People want to believe just doing "normal" shit is sacrifice.  NO, missing out on other shit so that you can meet your long-term goals is what sacrifice is.  It fucking sucks when it's happening, but when you hit that goal line,  you realize it was all worth it.

Yep. Hard work and dedication are very, very big parts of how to make it in whatever field you are in.

Even if your field is "street entertainer". These two started out on sidewalks for change:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ4zT7h8AiU

I remember being in college and barely being able to hide my contempt for the fucking laziness and ignorance of the people in my graduating program's cohort. They were just fine not knowing soooo many things.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on November 24, 2013, 03:45:03 PM
Cool story. You clearly have an idea what the job market is like when you and your friends worst case scenario is not getting your top choice.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mullah Omar on November 24, 2013, 03:55:41 PM
Cool story. You clearly have an idea what the job market is like when you and your friends worst case scenario is not getting your top choice.

I find people who have been 'lucky' in life get like this. At the same time it is hard to explain because these people have worked really hard.  :myecred:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Slacktivist on November 24, 2013, 04:10:37 PM
Y'all are acting like some commie D&D goons over Rrail's pretty straight-forward story.

Quote from: Rrail
What I did was talk to dozens of guys all over Wall Street and solicit their advice on how best to break into the industry. I asked them about their interview experiences, what they look for in a candidate when they do interviews, etc. I took those traits and qualities and studied guide after guide of banking interview questions and learned to weave those traits into the qualitative answers and into my story. Even now there are approximately ~500 questions from those guides, covering qualitative stuff, accounting, modeling, corporate valuation, etc. that, if asked, I could rattle off an answer pretty much out of reflex. I practiced my "pitch" (your 2-5 minute story) in front of the mirror and probably dozens of different times until it was extremely polished. I applied to companies I wasn't even interested in working for (Jefferies, I'm looking at you) so that I could get early interviews and practice in live situations.

Compare this to the exact same sort of memorization and dedication a goon would have for playing DOTA2.

Post-Doxx/Callout Edit: fuck nevermind my bad
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on November 24, 2013, 04:11:51 PM
Fuck you guys.  I would never work for a KKKapitalist clan of kleptocrats like investment banking anyway!

::Makes $9/hr at a Target in the Electronics section::
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danish Plastic Bigotry on November 24, 2013, 08:28:26 PM
The job market is tough, take a look around the office of any decent-sized corporation and count the number of people between 22 and, say, 28. Tons of boomers and middle-aged people who never cared about advancement and are happy to stay in middling jobs for decades are still in the ranks. You can't blame circumstance for your own failings, but it's just a fact that some eras are better to be born in if you want stability. Freshly graduating at the onset of an economic contraction? Shit's rough, but you can mitigate it and ride it out.

The goony thing isn't to be unemployed, it's to be unemployed and unwilling to take even baby steps to fix it yourself. The goons are too good for service jobs, they're too educated for mindless busy work, too valuable according to Mommy and Trans-studies University for minimum wage, and too depressed/fibromyalgic to study something on their own while out of work.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: CaptainSpaulding on November 25, 2013, 11:46:36 AM
The thing is, even if you're the smartest person from Stanford if you're so lazy or "mentally ill" that you can't get anything done then you're a lot more useless than a c student from state school who puts in extra hours, and probably a liability because you will make everyone else miserable and less productive.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mullah Omar on November 25, 2013, 11:49:16 AM
Cool story. You clearly have an idea what the job market is like when you and your friends worst case scenario is not getting your top choice.

The reason not getting my top choice was my worst case scenario is precisely because I understand the job market/how to get a job better than most people. If "getting a job" is a serious concern for you, you are a fuck up.

Yeah, I'm fucking up so bad I'm not getting jobs where 700-1000 people are applying to them due to the economic situation in this part of my country. Because all 1000 of those applicants are terrible.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: nerdball on November 25, 2013, 12:48:40 PM
You don't need to be the best applicant for the job. You just have to be the best at presenting yourself to the interviewer(s).
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mullah Omar on November 25, 2013, 12:52:48 PM
You don't need to be the best applicant for the job. You just have to be the best at presenting yourself to the interviewer(s).

Kind of hard when you don't get to the interview stage with a carefully written cover letter and cv.  :myecred:

At least I've found a way to make the gaps not so bad with free courses. Wouldn't have knew about them if I hadn't pestered about getting a site safety card. They've kept things well hidden. Could have done some last time I had nearly a year unemployed.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: nerdball on November 25, 2013, 01:01:47 PM
You don't need to be the best applicant for the job. You just have to be the best at presenting yourself to the interviewer(s).

Kind of hard when you don't get to the interview stage with a carefully written cover letter and cv.  :myecred:

If that's all you're doing, you're doing it wrong. Network your way in. You will almost always get an interview if you meet the minimum requirements and get an internal referral. I used LinkedIn really heavily. I would be happy to explain how if you'd like, because it's actually much easier than it sounds when you haven't done it!

That'd be great, if you wouldn't mind. I'm exploring my career options because I've been with the same company for 7 years now and need a change. The downside to staying with one org for so long is that institutionalization sets in and it's really goddamn hard to break out.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: nerdball on November 25, 2013, 01:28:52 PM
Sure, I got some shit to do but I'll happily write it up when I get back.

That's fantastic, man. I know you're in a high-pressure time consuming job and I appreciate your taking the time.  :reagan:


Edit: Just ran into this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz0o9clVQu8

Millenials in the Workplace Training video. Applies to 70% of my employees.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danger-Weiner on November 25, 2013, 03:04:57 PM
While I did have a pretty good strike rate, I failed to get Morgan Stanley, which was the one I had wanted since I was ~14 years old and first learned about investment banking.

(http://i.imgur.com/MOc9DGa.jpg)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on November 29, 2013, 07:12:22 PM
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2013/11/18/n-asher-interns-sue-companies-job-prospects.cnnmoney/index.html?iid=S_Taboola

So the Gen Cry whiners who decided to  :bieber:rage against the machine about their unfair internships because they are special snowflakes who have a unique digital millennial experience to offer employers and should therefore be paid a minimum of $40k for their internship have found OH SHIT employers don't like that.

Now they can't get jobs.
:stewart:

"...selling granola in Columbus Ohio."

I have had well over a hundred interns come through my office in the past 5 years and I am going to be very pissed if these assholes ruin it for everyone. And so would my interns. I give them real experience, not just getting coffee and filing, and they all value it and I have great reputations among local schools because of that. It's true we do get something out of it, but they don't replace paid employees. Without them, we just wouldn't produce as highly and would do less research and stuff. They are also pretty valuable for brainstorming and focus groups.

Hopefully the ones who demand to get paid for the 20 hours a week they put in for 3 months will realize it's not worth losing their careers over.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on November 29, 2013, 07:59:29 PM
A lot of Gen Whine has been conditioned/groomed to believe that corporations are bottomless pits of money.  So it seems obvious to them that they should get paid $40,000 for their internship for that reason.  Also they seem to struggle with learning that actions have consequences, which is why that strong proud womyn of color ranted about Beyonce at an accounting firm is going to struggle to find a job for the next several years.

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danger-Weiner on November 30, 2013, 11:25:41 AM
lol at being a 28 year old intern
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: armchair nazi on November 30, 2013, 11:33:48 AM
lol at being a 28 year old intern
some of us went back to school to change careers :clint:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Trump is the New Norma on November 30, 2013, 11:34:26 AM

But the SJW dream is to get "victimized" and cash in on a lawsuit.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on November 30, 2013, 12:22:54 PM
Let me add too that there are times when employers DO abuse interns, but all that stuff is already codified in state and federal law. Like interns can't be used to replace an employee. That means you can't eliminate a position and assign the responsibilities to interns. The internship also has to benefit the interns. So I push back when my bosses want one of my interns to cover the front desk when the receptionist is out--no, you call in one of the hourly people for that, or have the Office Manager cover. It's both using the interns to save money in place of an employee, and it's teaching them nothing besides how to answer phones.

Other places do abuse interns. They do make them replace other employees, or use them as personal assistants who do nothing but get coffee and dry cleaning and filing. If the laws were just enforced that we have now, a lot of the "intern abuse" would go away.

I do feel "the employer must receive no benefit rule" is a bit dumb though, and I use a wide latitude in enforcing that. There are going to have to be benefits for me to spend so much time bringing these kids in and training and herding them. So yeah, I assign them work I'd normally do myself so it can get done quicker (always check it though). This isn't "replacing" me with an intern, it just means if I have 5 things to do and I can farm out 4 of them I get them done 5x faster. And they get real training on how to get real life work done, even if they don't have actual responsibility. And we certainly get benefit from them doing research and brainstorming on stuff. I could sit in a room and come up with ideas by myself, but it's always better to have a group.

The flip side of that is when there's not a lot of work for them to do, I am challenged to come up with real work for them that's not completely pointless busywork, because of the whole "benefit to them" thing. Sometimes I've worked late because of that. It all balances out.

The kids who fight this though are making it less likely for companies to want interns. I can have 10 of them and my company doesn't care, but if we had to pay them even minimum wage I'd have zero. And quite frankly, if I did have a part time hours budget, I'd hire a permanent assistant instead of people I had to retrain every few months and who weren't around at gap times between semesters.

Nobody but the biggest companies can afford to pay interns, and even less so if they are just basically job shadowing and hanging around with no real tasks because of "internship rules." These people fighting for "intern rights" think they are going to get it so that thousands of interns are paid big wages every semester. Instead they are making it so that only a few hundred lucky people will actually get internships at big companies who can afford to add that to their payroll.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: rape priviledge on November 30, 2013, 02:16:06 PM
Fuck the whole concept of unpaid interns. So I have to get your coffee, and pay my school for the privilege? Most engineering and math interns are paid, and rightfully so.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on November 30, 2013, 02:31:33 PM
Fuck the whole concept of unpaid interns. So I have to get your coffee, and pay my school for the privilege? Most engineering and math interns are paid, and rightfully so.

It's just supply and demand.  Stop shitting out hundreds of thousands of BA's a year and suddenly interns will actually have value and start getting paid again.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on December 01, 2013, 07:39:23 PM
Unpaid internships are a scam and if you can't afford to pay minimum wage then you don't need the help. These people not getting jobs though are more likely not getting them because they're trying to get them in blackhole job markets that use unpaid internships. Fashion designers and journalists having trouble finding jobs? Shocking.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on December 01, 2013, 07:43:06 PM
Well I wouldn't say we need interns, but I'd be damn sad to see them go. And a lot of the interns I've had have gone on to good marketing jobs. We've even hired a few.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: High Impact Sexbot 2020 on December 01, 2013, 07:50:55 PM
I howled with laughter Irl  :allears: :allears: :allears: :allears:

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2013/11/18/n-asher-interns-sue-companies-job-prospects.cnnmoney/index.html?iid=S_Taboola

So the Gen Cry whiners who decided to  :bieber:rage against the machine about their unfair internships because they are special snowflakes who have a unique digital millennial experience to offer employers and should therefore be paid a minimum of $40k for their internship have found OH SHIT employers don't like that.

Now they can't get jobs.
:stewart:

"...selling granola in Columbus Ohio."

I have had well over a hundred interns come through my office in the past 5 years and I am going to be very pissed if these assholes ruin it for everyone. And so would my interns. I give them real experience, not just getting coffee and filing, and they all value it and I have great reputations among local schools because of that. It's true we do get something out of it, but they don't replace paid employees. Without them, we just wouldn't produce as highly and would do less research and stuff. They are also pretty valuable for brainstorming and focus groups.

Hopefully the ones who demand to get paid for the 20 hours a week they put in for 3 months will realize it's not worth losing their careers over.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danger-Weiner on December 01, 2013, 09:42:49 PM
Well I wouldn't say we need interns, but I'd be damn sad to see them go. And a lot of the interns I've had have gone on to good marketing jobs. We've even hired a few.

a fresh crop of easy ass every year
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Coon Justice on December 02, 2013, 09:02:09 PM
A site full of generation Y at its finest https://www.greennote.com/Default.aspx
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on December 02, 2013, 09:14:43 PM
Well I wouldn't say we need interns, but I'd be damn sad to see them go. And a lot of the interns I've had have gone on to good marketing jobs. We've even hired a few.

a fresh crop of easy ass every year

I can't help it if mostly chicks apply.
 :clintonthumb:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Fade to Vanilla on December 03, 2013, 12:02:20 AM
so what happens toGen crY when their 2nd bestest friend 9after mom and dad) gives up on them?  now their therapists have had enough of their sad-sack snowflake ways
 (http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2013/12/millennial_narcissism_helicopter_parents_are_college_students_bigger_problem.html)


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Why Millennials Can’t Grow Up

Helicopter parenting has caused my psychotherapy clients to crash land.


Amy (not her real name) sat in my office and wiped her streaming tears on her sleeve, refusing the scratchy tissues I’d offered. “I’m thinking about just applying for a Ph.D. program after I graduate because I have no idea what I want to do.” Amy had mild depression growing up, and it worsened during freshman year of college when she moved from her parents’ house to her dorm. It became increasingly difficult to balance school, socializing, laundry, and a part-time job. She finally had to dump the part-time job, was still unable to do laundry, and often stayed up until 2 a.m. trying to complete homework because she didn’t know how to manage her time without her parents keeping track of her schedule.

I suggested finding a job after graduation, even if it’s only temporary. She cried harder at this idea. “So, becoming an adult is just really scary for you?” I asked. “Yes,” she sniffled. Amy is 30 years old.   :stare:

Her case is becoming the norm for twenty- to thirtysomethings I see in my office as a psychotherapist. I’ve had at least 100 college and grad students like Amy crying on my couch because breaching adulthood is too overwhelming.

In 2000, psychologist Jeff Arnet coined the term “emerging adolescence” to describe extended adolescence that delays adulthood. People in their 20s no longer view themselves as adults. There are various plausible reasons for this, including longer life spans, helicopter parenting, and fewer high paying jobs that allow new college grads to be financially independent at a young age.

Millennials do have to face some issues that previous generations did not. A college degree is now the career equivalent of what a high school degree used to be. This increases the pressure on kids to go to college and makes the process more competitive. The sluggish economy no longer yields a wealth of jobs upon graduation.

Rates of depression are soaring among millennials in college. A 2012 study by the American College Counseling Association reported a 16 percent increase in mental-health visits since 2000 and a significant increase in crisis response over the past five years. According to recent studies, 44 percent of college students experienced symptoms of depression, and suicide is one of the leading causes of death among college students.

It seems as if every article about millennials claims that these kids must all have narcissistic personality disorder. It’s easy to generalize an entire population by its collective Facebook statuses. However, narcissism is not Amy’s problem, or the main problem with millennials.

The big problem is not that they think too highly of themselves. Their bigger challenge is conflict negotiation, and they often are unable to think for themselves. The overinvolvement of helicopter parents prevents children from learning how to grapple with disappointments on their own. If parents are navigating every minor situation for their kids, kids never learn to deal with conflict on their own. Helicopter parenting has caused these kids to crash land.

The Huffington Post and the Wall Street Journal have reported that millennials are now bringing their parents to job interviews, and companies such as LinkedIn and Google are hosting “take your parents to work day.” Parents went from strapping their kids into a Baby Björn carrier to tying their kids’ wing-tips.

A 2013 study in the Journal of Child and Family Studies found that college students who experienced helicopter-parenting reported higher levels of depression and use of antidepressant medications. The researchers suggest that intrusive parenting interferes with the development of autonomy and competence. So helicopter parenting leads to increased dependence and decreased ability to complete tasks without parental supervision.

Amy, like many millennials, was groomed to be an academic overachiever, but she became, in reality, an emotional under-achiever. Amy did not have enough coping skills to navigate normal life stressors—how do I get my laundry and my homework done in the same day; how do I tell my roommate not to watch TV without headphones at 3 a.m.?—without her parents’ constant advice or help.

A generation ago, my college peers and I would buy a pint of ice cream and down a shot of peach schnapps (or two) to process a breakup. Now some college students feel suicidal after the breakup of a four-month relationship. Either ice cream no longer has the same magical healing properties, or the ability to address hardships in lacking in many members of this generation.

The era of instant gratification has led to a decrease in what therapists call “frustration tolerance.” This is how we handle upsetting situations, allow for ambiguity, and learn to navigate the normal life circumstances of breakups, bad grades, and layoffs. When we lack frustration tolerance, moderate sadness may lead to suicidality in the self-soothingly challenged.

Maybe millennials are narcissistic, like most 14-year-olds are. And maybe they will outgrow their narcissism later in life if 30 is the new 18. We don't have the data on what millennials will be like when they’re 40. But more importantly, they need to learn how to cope.

Amy is still figuring out how to grow up. After a few months of therapy and medication to stabilize her depression, she started exercising to help relieve anxiety. She started online dating, something she found daunting before, and got a girlfriend. She started applying to grad schools but also made a list of places she wants to apply for jobs. Amy still has no idea what she wants to do when she grows up, but she’s a little less frightened of it now.

so now she's replaced her parents as her main suppliers of life's how-to's with her therapist.  nice tradeoff when you're looking at $120/hr for billable charges.

2 particular comments on the stats, which are a bit misleading:

* a 16 percent increase in mental-health visits since 2000 and a significant increase in crisis response over the past five years. According to recent studies, 44 percent of college students experienced symptoms of depression, and

only 16%?  surprised it's not more since the entire generation was raised with a much higher tolerance of therapy as a treatment than previous generations.  >thumbs suspenders< well back in my day, if you had a problem, your friends would slap your back and call you "faggot-ass pussy" and the next day all would be better.  now it's 6 weeks of hugs and a script for anti-psychotics.

*suicide is one of the leading causes of death among college students.

this is kinda pointless.  among a young and otherwise healthy cohort, self-inflicted death is always going to be a top 5 cause of death.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Internet Catchphrase on December 03, 2013, 12:14:00 AM
Maybe her degenerate homosexual lifestyle has something to do with her depression. Makes you think.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danish Plastic Bigotry on December 03, 2013, 12:15:34 AM
Having a hard time balancing socializing, school, part-time work, and laundry.

 :clint: :eminem: :bronson: :putin: :johnwayne: :pound:lol





the writer will be making most of her money for the next few decades off of these pathetic wastes, so I'm loving the anger that still comes through. This line is awesome when you consider the average age of a millenial:

Quote
Maybe millennials are narcissistic, like most 14-year-olds are.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on December 03, 2013, 12:19:44 AM
god bless suicide

killing off dysfunctional faggots so no one has to deal with a faggot who cant even do their own laundry
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Slacktivist on December 03, 2013, 12:28:37 AM
If you ever feel immature about anything just remind yourself that right now somebody can't handle doing laundry and they're over 18 years old.  :dubya:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Fade to Vanilla on December 03, 2013, 12:41:59 AM
Having a hard time balancing socializing, school, part-time work, and laundry.

the MSM finally beginning to realize that keeping 3 tabs open on firefox doesn't mean gen crY can actually "multitask" IRL.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on December 03, 2013, 12:46:59 AM
How the fuck can you not handle doing laundry? I started a load after coming back from a bar black out drunk last weekend.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danish Plastic Bigotry on December 03, 2013, 02:03:55 AM
If it was in some Indian village where she was beating laundry against the rocks on the banks of a shit-and-corpse-filled Ganges, maybe I'd understand how laundry could be a big time-killer

Jesus Christ, unlike most household chores the machine actually does almost everything. It takes more effort to make Pop-tarts because you have to open the foil wrap
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: nerdball on December 03, 2013, 10:21:01 AM
Laundry day = best day.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: nerdball on December 03, 2013, 10:33:29 AM
Seriouspost: I'm seeing this kind of pathology increasingly often in my employees. They lack basic problem solving skills to the point where even trying to lead them to the correct solution with pointed questions doesn't work. No clue how to dig in and begin to untangle a client issue, no idea what questions to ask, and zero tolerance for frustration. I've had to step in and smooth things over because they were getting visibly irritated with procedural issues in front of a client, including huffing and puffing like an annoyed 13-year-old-girl. Pointing out that this behavior is wildly inappropriate earns nothing but blank stares.

And then there's the self-development issue. They're so accustomed to being spoon-fed that my encouraging them to seek out resources to improve their skills might as well be in Martian. In order to succeed, you need to read and put into practice any of the bazillions of leadership/sales/social skills/networking books, articles, and blogs out there.They're still convinced that there's a magic bullet for fame and riches and don't even understand the concept of a hard slog.

On top of that, I can't fire them without six month's of documentation and paperwork.  :lolno:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: cis scum 1.0 on December 03, 2013, 02:23:27 PM
I would laugh at them not being able to do laundry, but my sister approaching her mid-20s and she's unable to make coffee.

In most ways she's nowhere near as broken as most millenials are (holds multiple jobs working like 70 hours a week "otherwise I get bored") but yeah she's getting a new fancy coffee machine from my mother with those k-cups or whatever for christmas. She just can't figure out how to do coffee and won't even try.

I imagine it's the same thing with those people who can't do laundry. Just so paralyzed and won't try doing what is one of the easiest things you can do and legally retarded people in semi-autonomous communities do on their own.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on December 03, 2013, 02:33:57 PM
I'm a shitty, unredeemable bachelor for life, and even I can do laundry. Shit, it takes more time to go through my pockets then it does to walk down to the basement, dump a basket of clothes in, pour in randomly measured detergent, push butan, and walk away.

The longest part of the process is probably hanging them up and matching socks.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Aran on December 03, 2013, 02:49:40 PM
I must have 10 different styles of socks. I'm taking any small toe holes or worn spots as a reason to toss a pair so that I'm closer to being able to replace them all with one single style of sock without feeling guilty about getting rid of perfectly good clothing.


I still have clothes from early high school.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Coyote Attic on December 03, 2013, 03:21:47 PM
That therapist can go cry me a fucking river. Twenty years ago, people like her should have been telling parents "tell your kids to harden the fuck up", but nooooo. It was all "treat them as special little people, listen to their opinions/feelings and FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T EVER EVER SPANK THEM!!!"

See, spanking them would be a *bad* thing and they might end up psychologically broken and...

Oh.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: rape priviledge on December 03, 2013, 07:56:33 PM
Blame Carl Rogers and his feel-good proto-hugbox therapy.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: deeply jewish kind of pervert on December 04, 2013, 12:35:48 AM
this has been one of the most fascinating and educational threads ive read on here in a long time, especially since im a worthless millennial myself. the realtalk in this thread is one of the reasons ive decided on going back to school, so thanks guys
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danger-Weiner on December 04, 2013, 12:40:46 AM
this has been one of the most fascinating and educational threads ive read on here in a long time, especially since im a worthless millennial myself. the realtalk in this thread is one of the reasons ive decided on going back to school, so thanks guys

i don't think you're taking home the right message here...
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: deeply jewish kind of pervert on December 04, 2013, 12:46:27 AM
it's either go back to school and become a productive member of society or continue being a minimum wage slave and a slug. it's a no-brainer
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on December 04, 2013, 01:11:48 AM
Unless it's a trade school (or STEM) you're doing it wrong...
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: bigperm on December 04, 2013, 02:31:52 PM
Unless it's a trade school (or STEM) you're doing it wrong...
Engineering is full. Please fuck off and leave the jobs for us.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: cis scum 1.0 on December 04, 2013, 03:18:50 PM
A 19th Century Prussian Feminist Lit degree has as much value as one in engineering you stem bigot :madgoon:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hollywood Shabat Goy Yaro on December 04, 2013, 03:37:34 PM
this has been one of the most fascinating and educational threads ive read on here in a long time, especially since im a worthless millennial myself. the realtalk in this thread is one of the reasons ive decided on going back to school, so thanks guys

i don't think you're taking home the right message here...

I feel you on this one.  Seeing that gen Y goon with the  bad spending problems (Season tickets to the opera??)in GBS RSS is motivating me like no other to get my own finances in order. 
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on December 04, 2013, 04:10:22 PM
A broken homo who can't do her own laundry? Wonderful.  I'm sure that's not an insane emotionally destructive relationship.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: As a white male I on December 29, 2013, 02:19:12 PM
Another Gen-Y peak limpwrist. Read and let the rage flow through you.


http://imgur.com/gallery/nL7uH (http://imgur.com/gallery/nL7uH)

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Physically, I am severely handicapped, although I mostly walk without a limp, a cane, a wheelchair, leg braces, or prosthetics. I suffer from severe Fibromyalgia from a lifetime of crippling pain in a child's body.

 :razor:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Internet Catchphrase on December 29, 2013, 02:25:41 PM
Fibromyalgia: Excuse women have to avoid working.

See: Hysterics
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hollywood Shabat Goy Yaro on December 29, 2013, 02:29:24 PM
Probably no time to get a job, but in between marathon sleep sessions I'm sure there's ample time to watch Dr. Who and nerd it up with other Gen Y layabouts.   :allears:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Cisnormative Commando on December 29, 2013, 07:02:14 PM
Another Gen-Y peak limpwrist. Read and let the rage flow through you.


http://imgur.com/gallery/nL7uH (http://imgur.com/gallery/nL7uH)

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Physically, I am severely handicapped, although I mostly walk without a limp, a cane, a wheelchair, leg braces, or prosthetics. I suffer from severe Fibromyalgia from a lifetime of crippling pain in a child's body.

 :razor:

Quote
I look perfectly healthy at this Doctor Who event, yet 10 minutes prior I was in a heated argument with a local cop who didn't want me using a handicap parking pass because he didn't see anything wrong with me.  $200 parking tickets for using a handicap spot are all too common in my life.

 :heyo:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danger-Weiner on December 29, 2013, 07:07:53 PM
that's not what that smiley is for
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hashtag Activist on December 30, 2013, 12:02:45 PM
Just google 'Tumblr Fibromyalgia' to see a bunch of 20 something's whine about their Chronic Illness.  The actual illness is muscular atrophy and the cure is to get off your ass.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: White Rapper on December 30, 2013, 12:05:54 PM
People stop "embracing" their weakness when a war breaks out and the power goes out in all the cities.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Internet Catchphrase on December 30, 2013, 08:05:34 PM
Fibromyalgia: When the MRI was negative for MS but you're still too lazy to get up at 6
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: spengler on December 30, 2013, 08:55:54 PM
"fibromyalgia" is more or less synonymous with "neuromuscular trigger points".

Hilariously, the drugs most prescribed to treat fibromyalgia (tramadol, benzos) are well documented as causing TrPs with chronic use.

It's like pouring gasoline on a fire.

I have a lot of problems with TrPs because of my body type and because I took benzos and neglected my body like a chump for a long period of time. So far getting off of my ass, working out, and getting PT seems to be helping a lot... no drugs or SSI required.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on December 30, 2013, 09:04:05 PM
any time someone has a "syndrome" you know it's because they're not really ill but the doctor doesn't want the hassle of telling them they're faking it and to HTFU
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on December 30, 2013, 09:43:37 PM
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/30/21892627-debt-no-degree-bills-mount-for-ex-college-students-who-never-reached-the-finish-line?lite&ocid=msnhp&pos=1

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This past April, facing the prospect of three 20-page papers due in the same week, Indiana University East student Harmony Glenn had a panic attack in the school library.

“I couldn’t breathe, and my chest felt tight,” she said. “I was asking myself, ‘Do I push forward…or do I cut my losses?’”
:clint:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on December 30, 2013, 09:49:44 PM
Translation: I waited to the last minute and realized that oh shit, I have three 20 page papers to write.

Of course, the real solution was to just BS it, like almost everyone else in her class did when they came to the same realization.

Edit: Some great quotes here

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Glenn, 27, had been inching toward a bachelor’s degree since 2004, transferring schools and taking breaks from her studies to switch her major, live with her parents to save money, and later move around Indiana with her husband to chase the best-paying jobs. Lately, she’d been working fulltime as a sales associate for a skin care retailer in an Indianapolis mall, and didn’t have the bandwidth to focus on her schoolwork.

I knew people like her: people who spent 8-9 years getting a Marketing degree through three or four different colleges.  These people only really cared about fucking around and doing nothing.  Since she had a lot of debt, I wonder what the odds are that she took one or two classes a semester but worked only one or two days a week?

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Drew Scott, 26, registered for the for-profit Art Institute to study video game arts because he was attracted to the accelerated program.

ROFL, holy shit but wait it gets better:

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“I didn’t completely understand what I was getting into,” he said. “I knew it was more expensive, but at the time, I thought, ‘they wouldn’t be charging more if it wasn’t better, right?’”

LOL, what a fucking dumbass

Back to the dumb chick in the first part of the article:

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“I never assumed [retail] would be my career,” she said. “I always assumed it was what I was doing until I finished my degree.” Becoming a manager at the skin care store would help her pay off the family debt, while going back for a political science degree promises her nothing.

Haha, holy shit, she couldn't hack it at one of the easiest majors out there and I doubt she was going to some prestigious university where there is a slight chance that there was some challenge to that degree.

Fuck these people.  I can sympathize with dealing with outrageous tuition, bullshit fees, book costs that rape you hard up the ass, but they picked the biggest sad sack losers possible.  It's almost like NBC was actually making fun of these people, especially the video game tester.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hashtag Activist on December 30, 2013, 10:58:28 PM
Panic attacks aren't fun but letting having one define your life is a terrible idea.  Worrying about having an anxiety attack basically setting yourself up to fail.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Internet Catchphrase on December 30, 2013, 11:02:36 PM
and her husband cant divorce that parasite or shes gonna destroy him in court for having no income.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on December 30, 2013, 11:46:08 PM
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/30/21892627-debt-no-degree-bills-mount-for-ex-college-students-who-never-reached-the-finish-line?lite&ocid=msnhp&pos=1

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This past April, facing the prospect of three 20-page papers due in the same week, Indiana University East student Harmony Glenn had a panic attack in the school library.

“I couldn’t breathe, and my chest felt tight,” she said. “I was asking myself, ‘Do I push forward…or do I cut my losses?’”
:clint:

Definitely cut your losses.  I recommend suicide for all Gen Cry who can't hack it.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Fade to Vanilla on December 31, 2013, 12:04:10 AM
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/30/21892627-debt-no-degree-bills-mount-for-ex-college-students-who-never-reached-the-finish-line?lite&ocid=msnhp&pos=1

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This past April, facing the prospect of three 20-page papers due in the same week, Indiana University East student Harmony Glenn had a panic attack in the school library.

“I couldn’t breathe, and my chest felt tight,” she said. “I was asking myself, ‘Do I push forward…or do I cut my losses?’”
:clint:

As a hiring manager, these guys are doing my work for me.  I look at university education of entry-level candidates primarily as a weed-out standard first:

1) did you finish what you started? A tertiary degree program is a 3-4 year commitment, and as a supervisor, I need to know that you can commit to a long duration project and make it through.

2) can you handle adversity?  University level education is often the first time that students are asked to budget time, deal with deadlines and face multiple, conflicting projects on their own with out mumsy and daddykins to guide them.  real-life iow.

3) moving on from school to take on greater challenges.  If these people are in an interview with me and their reflections on school are "That was the hardest I ever want to work in my life", then they are not going to cut it in any kind of competitive company.  On the other hand, if they realize that "The biggest thing I learned from University was that I am able to step up my game and meet the demands placed on me" it's gonna be "Welcome to the team".

But these guys are gonna be hanging on the edges forever.  Let this be a lesson to the next generation (who, unfortunately seem to be even bigger faggots).
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: nerdball on December 31, 2013, 12:15:37 AM
Today I had the honor of explaining why a crop top and Chucks are not appropriate work attire.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: The Floridian on December 31, 2013, 04:14:54 AM
Fibromyalgia: When the MRI was negative for MS but you're still too lazy to get up at 6

Isn't Fibromyalgia still a controversial diagnosis? Like aren't even chiropractors skeptical of that shit?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on December 31, 2013, 09:22:52 AM
Fibromyalgia: When the MRI was negative for MS but you're still too lazy to get up at 6

Isn't Fibromyalgia still a controversial diagnosis? Like aren't even chiropractors skeptical of that shit?
It's a catchall term used for "fuck if I know." The symptoms are pain that can't be explained, and being a woman (basically).
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: cis scum 1.0 on December 31, 2013, 09:37:02 AM
lol the tumblr fibromyalgia girl sounds like chief from childrens Hospital

(http://i.imgur.com/TC47QtA.jpg)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on December 31, 2013, 09:46:37 AM
Today I had the honor of explaining why a crop top and Chucks are not appropriate work attire.

In an office environment?  THAT'S SLUT SHAMING!  :ultlibrage:

Edit - I don't really understand how anyone could think this was acceptable.  Then again I've seen women wear super formfitting minidresses to work, so I'm not surprised.  It's almost exclusively young idiots who do this. 

For women, here is a guideline of what to wear: pencil skirts, slacks, or capris for bottoms with flats or heels for shoes and a nice blouse (that isn't see through or if it is with layers underneath) or button down shirt for a top.  You can also wear a dress so long as it doesn't go above your mid thigh.  If you deviate from these then it's probably not appropriate for work.  I don't see why this is so hard.

For men it's slacks and a button down or polo shirt (tucked in) with dress shoes.  Nothing else is appropriate, do not deviate.

For men and women, if your office allows jeans then just replace slacks with jeans in the above instructions.  It ain't hard, why does Gen CrY not understand professional office attire?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Internet Catchphrase on December 31, 2013, 09:48:40 AM
Fibromyalgia: When the MRI was negative for MS but you're still too lazy to get up at 6

Isn't Fibromyalgia still a controversial diagnosis? Like aren't even chiropractors skeptical of that shit?

even the doctor who popularized it doesnt think it exists anymore. He thought it should be renamed to "clinical extreme selfishness"/

 Tonight I have to endure my wifes friend who has been "suffering" from it since she got married her last semster of university (never graduated). She has enough energy to dress like a prostitute and hit on other men in front of her husband, but not to finish her communications degree or get a job or have kids.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on December 31, 2013, 11:14:39 AM
Something a lot of people don't know is that the US government used to have civil service exams until the 70s that functioned as a sort of ASVAB for the civil side of the government.  It was determined through some sort of wizardry that these tests were "racist" and the Carter administration promised a new "non-racist" exam back in...'79 or so?  It never manifested.

So exams as a basis of determining aptitude are racist (unless you're google or too big for the government to mess with.  I believe Proctor and Gamble still uses them), but degrees aren't which is part of the reason we're so heavy into credentialization nowadays.  Unfortunately its a poor metric in a lot of ways, especially with the watering down of the cachet of a degree.

Looking at any US government job you'll see now how clerk level positions (GS-5/7) are asking for 'relevant work experience' or a bachelor's/master's degree. Obviously not a true equivalent, but just goes to show you how fucked our society of seeing racists in every corner and insistence on a degree has made things.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: nerdball on December 31, 2013, 11:27:53 AM
It ain't hard, why does Gen CrY not understand professional office attire?

They also have trouble understanding concepts such as "showing up on time," "not asking to leave early," "finishing tasks," "your feels are not my problem," and "a hangover is not an excuse to skip work."
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Aran on December 31, 2013, 11:42:13 AM
Something a lot of people don't know is that the US government used to have civil service exams until the 70s that functioned as a sort of ASVAB for the civil side of the government.  It was determined through some sort of wizardry that these tests were "racist" and the Carter administration promised a new "non-racist" exam back in...'79 or so?  It never manifested.

So exams as a basis of determining aptitude are racist (unless you're google or too big for the government to mess with.  I believe Proctor and Gamble still uses them), but degrees aren't which is part of the reason we're so heavy into credentialization nowadays.  Unfortunately its a poor metric in a lot of ways, especially with the watering down of the cachet of a degree.

Looking at any US government job you'll see now how clerk level positions (GS-5/7) are asking for 'relevant work experience' or a bachelor's/master's degree. Obviously not a true equivalent, but just goes to show you how fucked our society of seeing racists in every corner and insistence on a degree has made things.

There are still civil service exams though... so...
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on December 31, 2013, 12:33:15 PM
Something a lot of people don't know is that the US government used to have civil service exams until the 70s that functioned as a sort of ASVAB for the civil side of the government.  It was determined through some sort of wizardry that these tests were "racist" and the Carter administration promised a new "non-racist" exam back in...'79 or so?  It never manifested.

So exams as a basis of determining aptitude are racist (unless you're google or too big for the government to mess with.  I believe Proctor and Gamble still uses them), but degrees aren't which is part of the reason we're so heavy into credentialization nowadays.  Unfortunately its a poor metric in a lot of ways, especially with the watering down of the cachet of a degree.

Looking at any US government job you'll see now how clerk level positions (GS-5/7) are asking for 'relevant work experience' or a bachelor's/master's degree. Obviously not a true equivalent, but just goes to show you how fucked our society of seeing racists in every corner and insistence on a degree has made things.

There are still civil service exams though... so...

 :facepalm:

No, there's not, not in the way there was before Carter killed 99% of them. FSOs and Postal Workers still have them, but by and large that's it.

There's "critical thinking" tests but not civil service exams in the traditional sense that were much more comprehensive.

EDIT:

Quote from: Wikipedia
The United States Civil service exams have since been abolished for many positions, since statistics show that they do not accurately allow hiring of minorities according to the affirmative action guidelines.

Niggers can't take tests, so the problem is with the tests not with niggers: Amurrica.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on December 31, 2013, 12:44:22 PM
It ain't hard, why does Gen CrY not understand professional office attire?

They also have trouble understanding concepts such as "showing up on time," "not asking to leave early," "finishing tasks," "your feels are not my problem," and "a hangover is not an excuse to skip work."

I'll have you know a hangover is a perfectly valid excuse.  Unlike Gen CrY, we just call in sick and make up some shit or say we're working from home.  Apparently they don't even know how to lie properly.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: nerdball on December 31, 2013, 01:00:38 PM
It ain't hard, why does Gen CrY not understand professional office attire?

They also have trouble understanding concepts such as "showing up on time," "not asking to leave early," "finishing tasks," "your feels are not my problem," and "a hangover is not an excuse to skip work."


I'll have you know a hangover is a perfectly valid excuse.  Unlike Gen CrY, we just call in sick and make up some shit or say we're working from home.  Apparently they don't even know how to lie properly.


Not when you're starting out, it's not. Once you've established yourself as a reliable, solid performer, calling out every now and again is perfectly fine, but the idea that new employees have to prove themselves to get perks is completely alien to the young ones.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on December 31, 2013, 02:33:38 PM
It ain't hard, why does Gen CrY not understand professional office attire?

They also have trouble understanding concepts such as "showing up on time," "not asking to leave early," "finishing tasks," "your feels are not my problem," and "a hangover is not an excuse to skip work."


I'll have you know a hangover is a perfectly valid excuse.  Unlike Gen CrY, we just call in sick and make up some shit or say we're working from home.  Apparently they don't even know how to lie properly.


Not when you're starting out, it's not. Once you've established yourself as a reliable, solid performer, calling out every now and again is perfectly fine, but the idea that new employees have to prove themselves to get perks is completely alien to the young ones.

True.  Paying your dues is not something anyone from Generation Narcissism seems to understand.  I love the stories from the idiots who expect to go from entry level to executive in 2 years.  Watching them fall flat on their faces as they realize that it takes genuine hard work and networking is hilarious.  Most usually curl up into the fetal position and quit or get fired when they do. 

The weird thing is this attitude started just a few years after I started my career.  It was like a switch just got turned off or something and the people became significantly less worldly and useful.  I don't quite understand how it could have happened so fast.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Internet Catchphrase on December 31, 2013, 03:07:50 PM
The internet.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: armchair nazi on January 01, 2014, 09:22:12 PM
It ain't hard, why does Gen CrY not understand professional office attire?

They also have trouble understanding concepts such as "showing up on time," "not asking to leave early," "finishing tasks," "your feels are not my problem," and "a hangover is not an excuse to skip work."


I'll have you know a hangover is a perfectly valid excuse.  Unlike Gen CrY, we just call in sick and make up some shit or say we're working from home.  Apparently they don't even know how to lie properly.


Not when you're starting out, it's not. Once you've established yourself as a reliable, solid performer, calling out every now and again is perfectly fine, but the idea that new employees have to prove themselves to get perks is completely alien to the young ones.

True.  Paying your dues is not something anyone from Generation Narcissism seems to understand.  I love the stories from the idiots who expect to go from entry level to executive in 2 years.  Watching them fall flat on their faces as they realize that it takes genuine hard work and networking is hilarious.  Most usually curl up into the fetal position and quit or get fired when they do. 

The weird thing is this attitude started just a few years after I started my career.  It was like a switch just got turned off or something and the people became significantly less worldly and useful.  I don't quite understand how it could have happened so fast.

this is gen y:

http://goingconcern.com/post/failed-pwc-auditor-finds-success-burning-bridges-ridiculous-farewell-email

and before you ask, yes she is a black woman (aka accounting diversity hire home run)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: White Rapper on January 01, 2014, 10:15:29 PM
75% never read the email and everyone who read it mocked it.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: bigperm on January 01, 2014, 10:28:53 PM
It ain't hard, why does Gen CrY not understand professional office attire?

They also have trouble understanding concepts such as "showing up on time," "not asking to leave early," "finishing tasks," "your feels are not my problem," and "a hangover is not an excuse to skip work."


I'll have you know a hangover is a perfectly valid excuse.  Unlike Gen CrY, we just call in sick and make up some shit or say we're working from home.  Apparently they don't even know how to lie properly.


Not when you're starting out, it's not. Once you've established yourself as a reliable, solid performer, calling out every now and again is perfectly fine, but the idea that new employees have to prove themselves to get perks is completely alien to the young ones.

A 22 year old should be able to go to work with a hangover for fucks sake.

The weird thing is this attitude started just a few years after I started my career.  It was like a switch just got turned off or something and the people became significantly less worldly and useful.  I don't quite understand how it could have happened so fast.

It's just more noticeable because they're not your peers. If you're under 30, then there's people your age who act the same way. You just don't associate with them.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Trump is the New Norma on January 01, 2014, 10:34:50 PM
True.  Paying your dues is not something anyone from Generation Narcissism seems to understand.  I love the stories from the idiots who expect to go from entry level to executive in 2 years.  Watching them fall flat on their faces as they realize that it takes genuine hard work and networking is hilarious.  Most usually curl up into the fetal position and quit or get fired when they do. 
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Trump is the New Norma on January 01, 2014, 10:37:48 PM
And entitlement
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: nerdball on January 01, 2014, 10:56:28 PM

this is gen y:

http://goingconcern.com/post/failed-pwc-auditor-finds-success-burning-bridges-ridiculous-farewell-email

and before you ask, yes she is a black woman (aka accounting diversity hire home run)

This is my favorite thing.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on January 02, 2014, 09:43:18 AM
It ain't hard, why does Gen CrY not understand professional office attire?

They also have trouble understanding concepts such as "showing up on time," "not asking to leave early," "finishing tasks," "your feels are not my problem," and "a hangover is not an excuse to skip work."


I'll have you know a hangover is a perfectly valid excuse.  Unlike Gen CrY, we just call in sick and make up some shit or say we're working from home.  Apparently they don't even know how to lie properly.


Not when you're starting out, it's not. Once you've established yourself as a reliable, solid performer, calling out every now and again is perfectly fine, but the idea that new employees have to prove themselves to get perks is completely alien to the young ones.

A 22 year old should be able to go to work with a hangover for fucks sake.

The weird thing is this attitude started just a few years after I started my career.  It was like a switch just got turned off or something and the people became significantly less worldly and useful.  I don't quite understand how it could have happened so fast.

It's just more noticeable because they're not your peers. If you're under 30, then there's people your age who act the same way. You just don't associate with them.

Possibly.  I'm 31, so who knows.  I just don't remember it much growing up or when I was in school.  Granted I'm at the very end of Gen X, so that might have something to do with it as well as hanging out with people who have all become successful adults.  Though I have seen some of their siblings turn out to be worthless (one lives at home, doesn't work, has never had a job since graduation in 2008 due to "social anxiety", and does nothing but play video games and eat all day, he's now 350 lbs at least). 
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on January 02, 2014, 09:56:06 AM
And entitlement is a better attitude to have at work than hard work, expecting a promotion X years in the future. That method has been for suckers for over 30 years.

If there's anything wrong with our generation, it isn't the attitude. It's the lack of career strategy.

Eh somewhat.  Entitlement is fine if you have reasonable expectations.  For instance, expecting to be an upper tier manager of large company after two years is not reasonable and should be mocked.  Somehow these idiots think that they can waltz into a job, perform in a half-assed manner and get promoted up 5 levels and take over the position where the manager is both highly competent and entrenched.  This is retarded and not remotely realistic.  It takes years of experience to be able to do jobs like that. 

Granted I do agree with the lack of career strategy issue, but this is entitlement gone overboard.  I've heard of some morons telling interviewers that they will have their job when asked where they want to be in 5 years.  It's incredibly stupid.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on January 02, 2014, 09:18:49 PM
I got into management pretty quick.  I worked my ass off and networked my ass off.

I have no problem with the promotion of people of whatever age who work hard, have a determination to make their department succeed, and have the skills necessary to work with issues on both sides: with upper management and with their subordinates.  If you all are talking about Gen Y people who only put in 8 hours a day/40 hours a week and think that they deserve a promotion because they put in the bare minimum and have stuck around for a year, then no, I don't agree with that.  However I know people who are in their 40s and 50s who think the same way.  If you want a promotion and you keep getting passed up, there is a reason for that.

The thing is, it is very rare for someone to step up.  You hear a lot of people bitching about how much they work but in my experience these people spend half their day talking and bitching to other people.  You rarely see anyone get additional education, certifications, willingly volunteer to take on challenging projects, etc.  It's a bunch of losers who are in a perpetual state of CYA who don't want to do anything more than what is required of them, which is about the only thing in the business they do know.  Then they think that because they're 45, it's "their time" and get pissed if some 31 year old gunner gets it.  Fuck these losers.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hashtag Activist on January 02, 2014, 09:52:00 PM

this is gen y:

http://goingconcern.com/post/failed-pwc-auditor-finds-success-burning-bridges-ridiculous-farewell-email

and before you ask, yes she is a black woman (aka accounting diversity hire home run)

I'm sure this girl has a solid career path planned out and isn't cashing her unemployment checks and writing rage filledblog posts.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on January 02, 2014, 10:26:26 PM
She's a negress with an accounting degree, she will find work soon if she hasn't already.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: angryoldman on January 02, 2014, 10:38:18 PM
She's a negress with an accounting degree, she will find work soon if she hasn't already.

Not if they google her name beforehand. I know many people in PWC, E&Y etc, the big firms will never hire this person again.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danish Plastic Bigotry on January 02, 2014, 10:41:12 PM
A Google search like that only works well if there's only one person under that name. What are the odds of that?  :allears:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Fade to Vanilla on January 02, 2014, 11:13:46 PM
She's a negress with an accounting degree, she will find work soon if she hasn't already.

Not if they google her name beforehand. I know many people in PWC, E&Y etc, the big firms will never hire this person again.

She thinks it's OK, since she has now decided she doesn't want to be an accountant despite going to school for that and having it be the majority of her work experience.  Of course, companies other than PWC, E&Y etc. can also use google, which I don't think she planned for.  The genius of Gen crY right there.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hashtag Activist on January 03, 2014, 12:08:32 AM
She's a negress with an accounting degree, she will find work soon if she hasn't already.

Every CPA in her area probably has a copy of that e-mail, so she won't be doing any type if accounting work that matters.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on January 03, 2014, 01:16:19 AM
That stupid chick who quit by making a 5 minute viral video of her dancing around and fucking off at work was celebrated as one of the "Best Moments Online of 2013" by CNN and a commercial.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: FUCK! on January 03, 2014, 05:03:19 AM
 :clint: fuck that noise
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: woulduliketonomoar on January 03, 2014, 08:17:15 AM
Today I had the honor of explaining why a crop top and Chucks are not appropriate work attire.

In an office environment?  THAT'S SLUT SHAMING!  :ultlibrage:

Edit - I don't really understand how anyone could think this was acceptable.  Then again I've seen women wear super formfitting minidresses to work, so I'm not surprised.  It's almost exclusively young idiots who do this. 

For women, here is a guideline of what to wear: pencil skirts, slacks, or capris for bottoms with flats or heels for shoes and a nice blouse (that isn't see through or if it is with layers underneath) or button down shirt for a top.  You can also wear a dress so long as it doesn't go above your mid thigh.  If you deviate from these then it's probably not appropriate for work.  I don't see why this is so hard.

For men it's slacks and a button down or polo shirt (tucked in) with dress shoes.  Nothing else is appropriate, do not deviate.

For men and women, if your office allows jeans then just replace slacks with jeans in the above instructions.  It ain't hard, why does Gen CrY not understand professional office attire?

You should see what some of the gencry teachers wear. They look like they are all slutted up to go bar hopping in hopes of finding a random dick to jump on. No whore, that see through blouse with lace camisole and miniskirt with thigh high boots is not appropriate for an elementary classroom. And these are the married ones. The single ones dress even worse.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: High Impact Sexbot 2020 on January 03, 2014, 09:02:44 AM
That stupid chick who quit by making a 5 minute viral video of her dancing around and fucking off at work was celebrated as one of the "Best Moments Online of 2013" by CNN and a commercial.  :rolleyes:

The reply video made by her coworkers was p lol
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on January 03, 2014, 09:37:48 AM
That stupid chick who quit by making a 5 minute viral video of her dancing around and fucking off at work was celebrated as one of the "Best Moments Online of 2013" by CNN and a commercial.  :rolleyes:

sort of sounds like the reason no one watches CNN
 :adam:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on January 03, 2014, 10:11:24 AM
That stupid chick who quit by making a 5 minute viral video of her dancing around and fucking off at work was celebrated as one of the "Best Moments Online of 2013" by CNN and a commercial.  :rolleyes:

The reply video made by her coworkers was p lol

Ha, I never saw that. Got a link?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on January 03, 2014, 05:59:33 PM
Today I had the honor of explaining why a crop top and Chucks are not appropriate work attire.

In an office environment?  THAT'S SLUT SHAMING!  :ultlibrage:

Edit - I don't really understand how anyone could think this was acceptable.  Then again I've seen women wear super formfitting minidresses to work, so I'm not surprised.  It's almost exclusively young idiots who do this. 

For women, here is a guideline of what to wear: pencil skirts, slacks, or capris for bottoms with flats or heels for shoes and a nice blouse (that isn't see through or if it is with layers underneath) or button down shirt for a top.  You can also wear a dress so long as it doesn't go above your mid thigh.  If you deviate from these then it's probably not appropriate for work.  I don't see why this is so hard.

For men it's slacks and a button down or polo shirt (tucked in) with dress shoes.  Nothing else is appropriate, do not deviate.

For men and women, if your office allows jeans then just replace slacks with jeans in the above instructions.  It ain't hard, why does Gen CrY not understand professional office attire?

You should see what some of the gencry teachers wear. They look like they are all slutted up to go bar hopping in hopes of finding a random dick to jump on. No whore, that see through blouse with lace camisole and miniskirt with thigh high boots is not appropriate for an elementary classroom. And these are the married ones. The single ones dress even worse.

Damn, sounds like I went to school at the wrong time
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: woulduliketonomoar on January 04, 2014, 09:51:50 AM
Today I had the honor of explaining why a crop top and Chucks are not appropriate work attire.

In an office environment?  THAT'S SLUT SHAMING!  :ultlibrage:

Edit - I don't really understand how anyone could think this was acceptable.  Then again I've seen women wear super formfitting minidresses to work, so I'm not surprised.  It's almost exclusively young idiots who do this. 

For women, here is a guideline of what to wear: pencil skirts, slacks, or capris for bottoms with flats or heels for shoes and a nice blouse (that isn't see through or if it is with layers underneath) or button down shirt for a top.  You can also wear a dress so long as it doesn't go above your mid thigh.  If you deviate from these then it's probably not appropriate for work.  I don't see why this is so hard.

For men it's slacks and a button down or polo shirt (tucked in) with dress shoes.  Nothing else is appropriate, do not deviate.

For men and women, if your office allows jeans then just replace slacks with jeans in the above instructions.  It ain't hard, why does Gen CrY not understand professional office attire?

You should see what some of the gencry teachers wear. They look like they are all slutted up to go bar hopping in hopes of finding a random dick to jump on. No whore, that see through blouse with lace camisole and miniskirt with thigh high boots is not appropriate for an elementary classroom. And these are the married ones. The single ones dress even worse.

Damn, sounds like I went to school at the wrong time

The men are just as bad but in the opposite direction. Look like a bunch of goddamn slobs. I had to get after one of my aides about his appearance. The closest I skirt sloppy / unprofessional is that I wear a pair of dark grey Pumas and cheap Old Navy khakis, sweaters and polos because I'm not about to ruin real dress clothes and nice dress shoes wrestling a kid to the ground while he is kicking and biting.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on January 04, 2014, 10:02:31 AM
She's a negress with an accounting degree, she will find work soon if she hasn't already.

Not if they google her name beforehand. I know many people in PWC, E&Y etc, the big firms will never hire this person again.

She thinks it's OK, since she has now decided she doesn't want to be an accountant despite going to school for that and having it be the majority of her work experience.  Of course, companies other than PWC, E&Y etc. can also use google, which I don't think she planned for.  The genius of Gen crY right there.

Depends on how pozzed the HR department is.  They could say, "True, she did chimp out online and burned her bridges with major accounting firms but she is a black woman and we have a 50% diversity target to fill this year..."  Like I've been saying throughout this thread, anytime a minority applies for a position, I have to write an 888 summary on why I opted to go for a white cis male, even if that white cis male has amazing credentials.  It's the world we're living in, someone will give her another chance soon if she hasn't found something else already.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on January 04, 2014, 11:57:44 AM
There's a lot of women in accounting and therefore a lot of meltdowns. She's probably a couple of more jobs away from realizing that she won't get anywhere in life in accounting.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Internet Catchphrase on January 04, 2014, 02:29:48 PM
There's a lot of women in accounting and therefore a lot of meltdowns. She's probably a couple of more jobs away from realizing that she won't get anywhere in life in accounting.

I dunno man accounting has taken me pretty far by outlasting all the women I articled with while they were dropping out due to stress and worklife balance bullshit.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on January 04, 2014, 04:33:03 PM
There's a lot of women in accounting and therefore a lot of meltdowns. She's probably a couple of more jobs away from realizing that she won't get anywhere in life in accounting.

I dunno man accounting has taken me pretty far by outlasting all the women I articled with while they were dropping out due to stress and worklife balance bullshit.
I meant her specifically due to her frequent meltdowns.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: MRAPUAKKK on January 05, 2014, 12:12:38 PM
Just registered to post this. It might be the most "Gen Y" thing I've ever read.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/koty-neelis/2013/07/the-difference-between-boring-people-and-people-who-actually-want-to-live/ (http://thoughtcatalog.com/koty-neelis/2013/07/the-difference-between-boring-people-and-people-who-actually-want-to-live/)

"This could only be written by somebody named Koty"
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: cis scum 1.0 on January 05, 2014, 12:20:04 PM
holy shit that girl :tuss:

YOU PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO LIVE LIFE TO THE FULLEST
http://thoughtcatalog.com/koty-neelis/
*writes hundreds of thousands of words about how she can only relates to the world through tv shows*
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OMNIPRESENT CYBERFILTH on January 05, 2014, 12:22:37 PM
Just registered to post this. It might be the most "Gen Y" thing I've ever read.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/koty-neelis/2013/07/the-difference-between-boring-people-and-people-who-actually-want-to-live/ (http://thoughtcatalog.com/koty-neelis/2013/07/the-difference-between-boring-people-and-people-who-actually-want-to-live/)

"This could only be written by somebody named Koty"

LOL it's going to be quite the wakeup call when she turns 35 and has no skills and no longer has the ability to attract a man.  "Dreaming" for a living is going to be fun when she's scraping together nickels to pay for her health insurance in a dead end clerk job.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on January 05, 2014, 12:22:51 PM
http://thoughtcatalog.com/koty-neelis/2013/12/how-to-be-alone-on-the-holidays/

Chance of severing with parents (while they still pay her rent) due to them being not progressive enough?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: cis scum 1.0 on January 05, 2014, 01:19:26 PM
I don't think she'll make it to 35 if that alone on the holidays article means anything, she'll kill herself out of abject depression way before then jesus christ
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: White Rapper on January 05, 2014, 01:19:31 PM
I feel bad for people who think that their job has to define them. They have spent their whole life working at shit serving jobs and always hanging out and socializing with their co-workers. They don't even understand that the income generated by a stable career allows you do pretty much whatever you want in your off hours.

It is always hilarious to see someone struggle as "an artist" because they insist on making the income on "their terms". Just because you have a band doesn't mean you have to earn your living from it idiot. Perhaps a proper recording and editing setup purchased with savings from a stable job would do more to advance your music career than another Saturday gig playing cover music for 200 bucks to split between 5 people.

I know a guy who loves to paint and sculpt movie monsters. He does this on his spare time using the income from his main job as a painter. Instead of insisting on people paying him for his ghost-busters proton pack he goes to a job and paints what they want. He still gets to improve his skills as an artist but is able to afford a house and car while doing it.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on January 05, 2014, 01:28:05 PM
I feel bad for people who think that their job has to define them. They have spent their whole life working at shit serving jobs and always hanging out and socializing with their co-workers. They don't even understand that the income generated by a stable career allows you do pretty much whatever you want in your off hours.

It is always hilarious to see someone struggle as "an artist" because they insist on making the income on "their terms". Just because you have a band doesn't mean you have to earn your living from it idiot. Perhaps a proper recording and editing setup purchased with savings from a stable job would do more to advance your music career than another Saturday gig playing cover music for 200 bucks to split between 5 people.

I know a guy who loves to paint and sculpt movie monsters. He does this on his spare time using the income from his main job as a painter. Instead of insisting on people paying him for his ghost-busters proton pack he goes to a job and paints what they want. He still gets to improve his skills as an artist but is able to afford a house and car while doing it.

 :christina: Conformist
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: cis scum 1.0 on January 05, 2014, 01:30:05 PM
http://thoughtcatalog.com/koty-neelis/2013/11/23-incredible-reasons-taco-bell-is-better-than-having-a-significant-other/
http://thoughtcatalog.com/koty-neelis/2013/11/the-connections-we-make-when-we-travel/ "i like the surge of excitment that flows through me when I catch someone's eye"
http://thoughtcatalog.com/koty-neelis/2013/09/why-women-should-travel-alone/

My mom is my best friend, I'm alone on the holidays and when i travel and taco bell is better than having someone to share my life with :tuss:

as I said, suicide before 35
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Internet Catchphrase on January 05, 2014, 01:33:34 PM
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Spending the holidays alone.

I’ve spent every Thanksgiving alone for the past four years because I didn’t have anyone to spend it with but this year I was with someone special and it made all the difference.

I think there’s a certain numbness that comes when the holidays approach for those of us who are left alone every year, those of us who are without family and friends to invite us in. Holidays are treated with a sort of nonchalant attitude. It’s a quiet day. The day comes and goes without much action. It’s a day of solitude, reflection, and self repair in some ways.

The first year alone was hard and sad and there were lots of tears but then I just sort of got over it. I accepted my family was dead or too far away or emotionally unavailable and that all of my friends had moved across the country or weren’t around. I got used to being alone and used to doing my own thing.

The second year I decided to make my own traditions. I made my own large meal with all my favorites, watched my favorite holiday movies, read trashy paperback novels, listened to music and thought about life. I guess I treated it as a sort of second birthday in the way you feel entitled to have and do your favorite things, just in a lonelier fashion.

I really don’t mind being alone, on holidays or not, but with that said, it was nice this year to have the silence interrupted. For the first time in a long while I felt like I was with family. 

Fuck man.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: cis scum 1.0 on January 05, 2014, 01:36:25 PM
yeah I hated that girl at first but after reading a few more articles I just feel really bad at that point

she also admitted to making out with a juggalo in the past and complains about how her last boyfriend was "so privileged" (while spending her life writing blog posts and traveling and watching tv)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Internet Catchphrase on January 05, 2014, 01:37:40 PM
Yeah I went internet detective and her dad died when she was really young and her brother commited suicide in the spring. She lives across the country from the only family (her mom) she has left. I'm going to go easy on this one.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hollywood Shabat Goy Yaro on January 05, 2014, 01:38:10 PM
With the inordinate amount of TV drivel the average goon and Gen Y'er watches I wouldn't be shocked if they spend more time with their fake TV friends than human interaction.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 40k Scrotal Sacks on January 05, 2014, 01:41:06 PM
The whole "I want to be free and do stuff on my terms" attitude would work great in a different economic environment. It's completely misplaced in times like these, where people are glad to have any work at all. I think that's the main issue with GenY, a complete dissonance between what they think should be done and what needs to be done in reality.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hashtag Activist on January 05, 2014, 01:50:16 PM
Just registered to post this. It might be the most "Gen Y" thing I've ever read.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/koty-neelis/2013/07/the-difference-between-boring-people-and-people-who-actually-want-to-live/ (http://thoughtcatalog.com/koty-neelis/2013/07/the-difference-between-boring-people-and-people-who-actually-want-to-live/)

"This could only be written by somebody named Koty"

I know too many people like this.  They think that reading a lot, watching a lot of "eye-opening" TV, and listening to music entitled them to a life of being above actually working.  Dreaming is nice and there isn't anything wrong with thinking big, but that also means hours of tedious work to accomplish it.  This girl wants to spend her time watching TV and writing blog posts about how "Girls" is the most important thing in TV history.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: cis scum 1.0 on January 05, 2014, 01:55:25 PM
Yeah I went internet detective and her dad died when she was really young and her brother commited suicide in the spring. She lives across the country from the only family (her mom) she has left. I'm going to go easy on this one.

yeah I just finished reading about that

now I want to take her out for a coffee and tell her life gets better and not to give up and shit. she doesn't seem like a bad person or even a gen y product, she's a girl who retreated in her mind and lives through fantasies because her real life is lonely and scary and really sad
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: White Rapper on January 05, 2014, 01:55:42 PM
The whole "I want to be free and do stuff on my terms" attitude would work great in a different economic environment. It's completely misplaced in times like these, where people are glad to have any work at all. I think that's the main issue with GenY, a complete dissonance between what they think should be done and what needs to be done in reality.

I get mad at people when they start talking about quitting their job without any mention at all about what they will do after. They did not do any job hunting or even check online to see if there is anything posted. I point out it is possible to find a job that is WORSE than their current job and perhaps they should try to find a new job before deciding to quit. They just look at me like a deer in headlights.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: MRAPUAKKK on January 05, 2014, 04:59:06 PM
Thought catalog really is a goldmine for this stuff, isn't it?

Broken, dysfunctional, narcissistic permachildren being hyperjudgmental elitists to make up for their own shameful feelings of inadequacy.

Wait I just described the modern world, didn't I?

This girl wants to spend her time watching TV and writing blog posts about how "Girls" is the most important thing in TV history.

Of course she does. It's a documentary about her.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Slacktivist on January 05, 2014, 05:57:25 PM
What bugs me is that she's half-right about one thing.

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Dreamers think bigger than most people, are unwilling to settle for zombie office culture, and want to create their own jobs. They are writers and computer programmers and entrepreneurs and musicians and other hungry souls who refuse to believe that this is the best that life gets.

It's really hard to meet somebody who excels at a "creative" field like programming, drawing, or writing who isn't as motivated or more so than the "real job" guys. It's not a matter of getting some coffee, watching your favorite TV show and feeling so inspired you fart out something that produces royalties or gets you freelance work. If somebody's GOOD at what they do there's years of practice behind it.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danish Plastic Bigotry on January 05, 2014, 08:26:04 PM
What makes Gen Y insufferable isn't the laziness, it's that they seem too collectively stupid to realize in any Western country it's easy to work a low-hours, undemanding job and still afford the return-to-the-womb lifestyle of Steam, fast food and anime that they desire.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on January 05, 2014, 09:37:52 PM
What makes Gen Y insufferable isn't the laziness, it's that they seem too collectively stupid to realize in any Western country it's easy to work a low-hours, undemanding job and still afford the return-to-the-womb lifestyle of Steam, fast food and anime that they desire.

$45k/year is more than enough money to support the goon lifestyle.  They can order pizza every night of the week, buy every single new game on Steam, drink imported beer/smoke weed every night, make car payments, and rent their own place in an actual apartment instead of mom and dads house, and still have plenty of spending money left over.  $45k is more money than a goon in his early 20's would ever need.  It only starts becoming too low once you stop being a goon and begin having obligations to other people instead of just to yourself.  You know, like a wife/girlfriend, some children, a mortgage payment, etc.  But goons never have to worry about that.

It just goes to show you how little goons really make.  I bet the average income for actual employed goons is somewhere in the low $30's.  (3 nights a week in a restaurant.  4 days a week at Best Buy).   Also, the goon unemployment rate has got to be up there with black people.  Like 50% or more.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on January 05, 2014, 10:07:38 PM
Goons are torn between wanting to work as little as possible and wanting to make as much money as possible.  The idea that easy to get jobs with high salaries is something that is deep ingrained with our generation.  When I was in college in the mid 2000s, I knew of sociology majors who expected to pull down at least $50k when they graduated.  Anyone who was in Business had the understanding that they could land a $80,000 a year job starting.  This wasn't Ivy League or some place with outrageous costs of living, this was a typical state school.  The expectations for jobs and salaries were so far out of whack that they were usually double what the Bureau of Labor Statistics had down for these positions.  Even smart people who should have known better assumed they were going to make this baller salary right out of school.  Maybe if you went to Harvard and had connections, you could make bank but some regular dude/chick?  No way.

Of course most of those people who expected those salaries didn't get it and they were very unhappy to find that $35,000 was the best it was going to get for many of them.  But still, it is something that our generation believed was coming to us and goes a long way in explaining a lot of articles: one side likes to whine that they don't make $90k as privilege checkers but the other side thinks that if they can't land a cushy job than nobody should.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Strategically placed watermelon on January 05, 2014, 10:39:12 PM
The idea that easy to get jobs with high salaries is something that is deep ingrained with our generation.

Yeah, absolutely this. "Go to college, get a degree, get a good job" was drilled into me from day one of my education (and you all already know that's exactly why degrees became worthless in the first place.) There's a lot of inertia coming from the 20th century where you really could get degree, get a job at a company, put in your 45 or 50 years with great pay, and retire with awesome benefits. The idea that you can do that now is a joke but it's only recently I've started hearing more and more people telling kids to skip college and learn a valuable skill instead
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on January 06, 2014, 05:07:13 AM
With the inordinate amount of TV drivel the average goon and Gen Y'er watches I wouldn't be shocked if they spend more time with their fake TV friends than human interaction.


Ray Bradbury had it spot on with this.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Clown Baby on January 07, 2014, 04:00:14 AM
I think one of the biggest issues with Generation Y is their "play now, work later (or never)" attitude. For example, as they slowly enter the workforce, more and more I'm noticing that it's becoming almost commonplace for them to electively take significant time off after earning a Bachelor's degree to accomplish what amounts to nothing. Rather than do something valuable with their time off like learning a programming language, working towards any of the thousands of different certifications out there, or trying their hand at entrepreneurship, they instead come to the conclusion that doing some "soul-searching"/traveling or whatever-the-fuck out in Europe or some other expensive place to live like New York City or San Francisco (or, worst of all, to sloth it up) is how to gain valuable "experience".

Then, by the time they're in their mid-to-late 20s and realize they only have a largely worthless B.A. and only a few scattered retail jobs on their résumé, do they want to start a career.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danish Plastic Bigotry on January 07, 2014, 07:57:46 PM
People are so pozzed from the "discover yourself" mindset that they actually consider doing retail for a year or two and then travelling (and then repeating this cycle a few times) to be an 'investment' in themselves. At least with women in their late twenties I assume there's some unspoken "well I'll just get married anyways" going on, so it's at least less of a gamble that way.

I would give any of the wandering souls on my facebook a big  :nixon: if they were actually doing something interesting or cultural as part of their 'soul searching' and 'self discovery,' but all I see is an assload of selfies on beaches/pub crawls
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on January 07, 2014, 09:53:17 PM
People are so pozzed from the "discover yourself" mindset that they actually consider doing retail for a year or two and then travelling (and then repeating this cycle a few times) to be an 'investment' in themselves. At least with women in their late twenties I assume there's some unspoken "well I'll just get married anyways" going on, so it's at least less of a gamble that way.

I would give any of the wandering souls on my facebook a big  :nixon: if they were actually doing something interesting or cultural as part of their 'soul searching' and 'self discovery,' but all I see is an assload of selfies on beaches/pub crawls

Most chicks I know, even with masters degrees, think there is a light at the end of the tunnel in terms of marriage.  They're probably right: it is still acceptable for a girl (if she is cute enough of course) to travel (read: fuck) around Europe and then at age 28 or 29, settle down and marry a senior programmer or a mid level manager who makes over $100,000 a year.  She can continue to work part time jobs to "find herself" while whoring herself out on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter until she gets pregnant at 31, where she becomes a full time mommyblogger.

For dudes, it isn't really acceptable after the age of 22.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: bigperm on January 08, 2014, 12:02:23 AM
People are so pozzed from the "discover yourself" mindset that they actually consider doing retail for a year or two and then travelling (and then repeating this cycle a few times) to be an 'investment' in themselves. At least with women in their late twenties I assume there's some unspoken "well I'll just get married anyways" going on, so it's at least less of a gamble that way.

I would give any of the wandering souls on my facebook a big  :nixon: if they were actually doing something interesting or cultural as part of their 'soul searching' and 'self discovery,' but all I see is an assload of selfies on beaches/pub crawls

Most chicks I know, even with masters degrees, think there is a light at the end of the tunnel in terms of marriage.  They're probably right: it is still acceptable for a girl (if she is cute enough of course) to travel (read: fuck) around Europe and then at age 28 or 29, settle down and marry a senior programmer or a mid level manager who makes over $100,000 a year.  She can continue to work part time jobs to "find herself" while whoring herself out on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter until she gets pregnant at 31, where she becomes a full time mommyblogger.

For dudes, it isn't really acceptable after the age of 22.

It's not as sure a thing as they hope it is. There are a lotta chumps out there I suppose.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Doctor Jizzmopper on January 09, 2014, 01:48:45 AM
What makes Gen Y insufferable isn't the laziness, it's that they seem too collectively stupid to realize in any Western country it's easy to work a low-hours, undemanding job and still afford the return-to-the-womb lifestyle of Steam, fast food and anime that they desire.

$45k/year is more than enough money to support the goon lifestyle.  They can order pizza every night of the week, buy every single new game on Steam, drink imported beer/smoke weed every night, make car payments, and rent their own place in an actual apartment instead of mom and dads house, and still have plenty of spending money left over.  $45k is more money than a goon in his early 20's would ever need.  It only starts becoming too low once you stop being a goon and begin having obligations to other people instead of just to yourself.  You know, like a wife/girlfriend, some children, a mortgage payment, etc.  But goons never have to worry about that.

It just goes to show you how little goons really make.  I bet the average income for actual employed goons is somewhere in the low $30's.  (3 nights a week in a restaurant.  4 days a week at Best Buy).   Also, the goon unemployment rate has got to be up there with black people.  Like 50% or more.

Low 30s?

I'm betting they make less than half that. Those that work that is.  Sure you are going to have some employed people, such as Slavegirl Whipfetish, but there are a lot of guttertrash on SA now.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Doctor Jizzmopper on January 09, 2014, 01:50:03 AM
With the inordinate amount of TV drivel the average goon and Gen Y'er watches I wouldn't be shocked if they spend more time with their fake TV friends than human interaction.


Ray Bradbury had it spot on with this.

He really did, didn't he? Hell, we have drone hounds now too.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Doctor Jizzmopper on January 09, 2014, 04:40:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc45-ptHMxo
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 40k Scrotal Sacks on January 09, 2014, 04:47:44 AM
From a guy with a pony avatar, of course:
"Guys, the point of this video is not to turn a complete 180 from what is considered "masculinity". Not going to write a book, but to put it bluntly, males are allowed to have feelings and show them while still acting like men, just as females are allowed to be strong and independent without losing what makes them women. It's not that radical of a concept."

Teens during puberty feeling depressed, suicidal and angry?? Surely this is the fault of our repressive society!
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OMNIPRESENT CYBERFILTH on January 09, 2014, 06:22:19 AM
From a guy with a pony avatar, of course:
"Guys, the point of this video is not to turn a complete 180 from what is considered "masculinity". Not going to write a book, but to put it bluntly, males are allowed to have feelings and show them while still acting like men, just as females are allowed to be strong and independent without losing what makes them women.  It's not that radical of a concept."

Teens during puberty feeling depressed, suicidal and angry?? Surely this is the fault of our repressive society!

Yeah they already have phrases for people like that, they're called faggots and ball busting bitches and their main legacy is a gravestone without any flowers by it.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Doctor Jizzmopper on January 09, 2014, 07:12:50 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/VhzJL.jpg)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: cis scum 1.0 on January 09, 2014, 09:18:29 AM
to be fair there is a pretty huge correlation with being a 30 year old virgin and massive bushy beards/wearing exotic hats
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Aran on January 09, 2014, 10:28:55 AM
I can't imagine making it to 30 and still being a virgin unless it's by choice. Even that 800lb+ guy got/gets laid!
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: As a white male I on January 09, 2014, 10:50:57 AM
Even that 800lb+ guy got/gets laid!

Why are you talking about yourself in third person?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Aran on January 09, 2014, 11:07:53 AM
Even that 800lb+ guy got/gets laid!

Why are you talking about yourself in third person?

800lbs is nearly three of me
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: cis scum 1.0 on January 09, 2014, 11:14:52 AM
8 / 4 is two

then again i can understand you struggling with math seeing as whenever the teacher said "Johnny has 5 apples and he ate 2, how many apples are left?" all you were thinking was "why is he eating apples and not candies? :parsons:"
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Aran on January 09, 2014, 11:18:17 AM
8 / 4 is two

Yay you can do basic math! Okay, so it's 2.5 of me, not quite "nearly three"
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on January 09, 2014, 11:33:52 AM
to be fair there is a pretty huge correlation with being a 30 year old virgin and massive bushy beards/wearing exotic hats

lol

 :reagan: :nixon:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: BubbaCat on January 09, 2014, 12:48:53 PM
Yeah they already have phrases for people like that, they're called faggots and ball busting bitches and their main legacy is a gravestone without any flowers by it.

There will be flowers left by their gravestone until their parents pass away.  Then, no legacy.  Forgotten forever when their parents die.  Sad really.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dental Grade Dildo on January 09, 2014, 01:57:13 PM
Yeah they already have phrases for people like that, they're called faggots and ball busting bitches and their main legacy is a gravestone without any flowers by it.

There will be flowers left by their gravestone until their parents pass away.  Then, no legacy.  Forgotten forever when their parents die.  Sad really.

sic transit goonia mundi
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on January 27, 2014, 07:17:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMCF0qbh6SM
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on January 27, 2014, 07:28:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMCF0qbh6SM

Haha that is absolutely perfect.

All hype, buzzwords, and no substance. And then they get destroyed by a bunch of Boomers. You could see the exact moment when his dreams were crushed and it was glorious...he's probably never had someone talk so real to him his entire snowflake life.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on January 27, 2014, 11:46:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMCF0qbh6SM

Haha that is absolutely perfect.

All hype, buzzwords, and no substance. And then they get destroyed by a bunch of Boomers. You could see the exact moment when his dreams were crushed and it was glorious...he's probably never had someone talk so real to him his entire snowflake life.

Yeah this was fuckin great  :reagan:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Tranny Feet on January 27, 2014, 02:24:30 PM
People are so pozzed from the "discover yourself" mindset that they actually consider doing retail for a year or two and then travelling (and then repeating this cycle a few times) to be an 'investment' in themselves. At least with women in their late twenties I assume there's some unspoken "well I'll just get married anyways" going on, so it's at least less of a gamble that way.

I would give any of the wandering souls on my facebook a big  :nixon: if they were actually doing something interesting or cultural as part of their 'soul searching' and 'self discovery,' but all I see is an assload of selfies on beaches/pub crawls

This also ties in with their constant harping about how inherently unfair and exploitative and racist the current economic system is whilst enjoying every pointless and unnecessary comfort it has to offer from the comfort of their wanking chariots. For the amount of money they're going to piss against a variety of foreign urinals, they could take a fraction of that, get their shots and within a fortnight, be on a flight to go help build a school in some bronze-age central American shithole, mibbe pick up some Spanish (a transferable skill) while they're there. As young, free, single people with no dependants, mortgages to pay or any of that adult shit, they could go do this right now, assuage their Western guilt a bit. There is literally nothing stopping them. But how many of these "seeing the world" arseholes do you hear of doing that? Very few. And why? Because it's hard fucking work and it's out of the comfort zone - the concept is anathema to them. "I really wanna help the downtrodden but how am I going to access Steam from a remote village in Belize?"
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Fade to Vanilla on January 27, 2014, 08:18:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMCF0qbh6SM

jeeeezus, that was excruciating.  what a shitty idea to ask for funding for. and i say that as someone who has sat on those exact panels and reviewed dozens of young entrepreneurs asking for grants and VC backing. luxury pitches like that come from an older, more established source, not a bunch of gen crYers.  the one guy's "who are you? you haven't lived!" was spot on.  the whole idea that this show would let these guys pitch this was a set-up for a spectacular crash and burn.  mission accomplished

:smug:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danger-Weiner on January 27, 2014, 08:19:53 PM
i've been watching dragons' den and shark tank on youtube all day because of this thread

 :reagan:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: jimbolio on January 27, 2014, 10:13:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMCF0qbh6SM

jeeeezus, that was excruciating.  what a shitty idea to ask for funding for. and i say that as someone who has sat on those exact panels and reviewed dozens of young entrepreneurs asking for grants and VC backing. luxury pitches like that come from an older, more established source, not a bunch of gen crYers.  the one guy's "who are you? you haven't lived!" was spot on.  the whole idea that this show would let these guys pitch this was a set-up for a spectacular crash and burn.  mission accomplished

:smug:

Funniest Gen-Cry shit I have seen in forever. Complete with overweight gooness in lingerie she shouldn't be in.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Agent of Aspieonage on January 28, 2014, 08:16:13 AM
I fucking twitched every time they did an overexcited high-five. So painful. Whadda bunch of faggots.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Nudgnik on January 28, 2014, 01:05:32 PM
Ah I fucking hate reality TV but now I can't stop watching Dragon's Den thanks guys.

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on January 31, 2014, 10:52:43 AM
Some Gen Y's attempt to raise a child  :stare:

(http://dailybuzzlive.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/tracy-hermann-and-james-sargent1.jpg)

http://dailybuzzlive.com/archives/2764

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5 Mo Old Left In Car Seat For 8 Days No Food, Water Or Diaper Changes, Dies. Five month old Benjamin Sargent was dropped off at his mom and dad’s house strapped into his car seat. He was found in that same position 8 days later. Benjamin had died from an infection caused by feces in his diaper that eventually ate through his skin. This was a result of him lying in his own waste and not being changed for eight days. benjamin-sargent-21

Tracy Hermann and James Sargent, not only neglected to change their son’s diaper, but also neglected to feed him. The five-month baby only weighed 2 pounds more then he weighed at birth when he was found. Little Benjamin died with his eyes open, his fists clenched and strapped into his car seat after eight days without food or water.

State Attorney Kevin Lyons said this was the worst case of child neglect they have seen since the turn-of-the-century. Lyons said the death of Benjamin Sargent had rattled him so deeply. He went on to say the parents simply left little Benjamin in his crib, strapped to his car seat, while they played video games, slept and ate.

Police interviewed the father who at first told them he had moved the baby a couple of times, but later conceded that he might not have moved Benjamin at all during that week. The mother allegedly told the police she looked at the baby in the crib and presumed he was sleeping, so she said she stuck a bottle between the baby and the side of the car seat so that when he woke up he could grab it to feed himself.

Tracey D Hermann, 21, and James E Sargent, 23, were both charged with two counts of first-degree murder. The charges state the parents actions, or lack thereof, were brutal and heinous, indicative of cruelty.
Lyons stated that James Sargent showed a complete and total lack of remorse for the death of his son. A Peoria County Judge sentenced Sargent to the maximum of 100 years in prison. Tracy Hermann was sentenced to 50 years after she pleaded guilty to first-degree murder in the death of her son Benjamin. She will have to serve her entire sentence.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dental Grade Dildo on January 31, 2014, 11:35:21 AM
:stonk: God damn. I'm generally inured to Internet horror stories but somehow that one rattled me a lot. Eight fucking days? And they weren't even on drugs? (Not that it would be any excuse of course, but I can't imagine how you could be that reckless outside of a heroin daze or something.)

Whatever prisons they end up in, those will be the first jails where chimos have someone to look down on.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: cis scum 1.0 on January 31, 2014, 11:48:43 AM
I hope they both end up lying face down in the shower, asses full of cum and backs full of shivs.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danger-Weiner on January 31, 2014, 12:13:59 PM
I hope they both end up lying face down in the shower, asses full of cum and backs full of shivs.

you know one of them is going to a women's prison...
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Beepboop on January 31, 2014, 12:33:38 PM
How can they both be charged with two counts of murder? There was only one dead baby. Rocket pls explain.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hollywood Shabat Goy Yaro on January 31, 2014, 12:38:03 PM
What the fuck is wrong with people?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dental Grade Dildo on January 31, 2014, 01:23:11 PM
How can they both be charged with two counts of murder? There was only one dead baby. Rocket pls explain.

Two murdered victims: the baby, and hope for humanity.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on January 31, 2014, 01:37:14 PM
Yeah it wasn't even a Trainspotting style, passed out for days on end in a massive drug bender.   These pieces of shit were just playing videogames and sleeping all day.  The fucking father didn't even bother to check on the baby once the entire time.  At least the mother's massive maternal instincts forced her to at least go into the baby's room and check on it, but her extreme apathy and narcissism made her say "whelp, he's breathing and there is a bottle next to him.  I guess that is good enough.  Time to get back to playing WOW.  It's raid night and my guild is depending on me!"

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: White Rapper on January 31, 2014, 02:50:16 PM
How can they both be charged with two counts of murder? There was only one dead baby. Rocket pls explain.

Also what is the upper limit of people that can be charged for 1 murder. Could everyone in America go to jail for killing Michael Jackson?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: The Floridian on January 31, 2014, 04:11:22 PM
Some Gen Y's attempt to raise a child  :stare:

(http://dailybuzzlive.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/tracy-hermann-and-james-sargent1.jpg)

http://dailybuzzlive.com/archives/2764

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5 Mo Old Left In Car Seat For 8 Days No Food, Water Or Diaper Changes, Dies. Five month old Benjamin Sargent was dropped off at his mom and dad’s house strapped into his car seat. He was found in that same position 8 days later. Benjamin had died from an infection caused by feces in his diaper that eventually ate through his skin. This was a result of him lying in his own waste and not being changed for eight days. benjamin-sargent-21

:stonk: :stonk: :stonk: Jesus Christ that some of the most horrifying shit I've ever read.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Renegade Jew on January 31, 2014, 04:45:14 PM
 :stonk:

These fucknuts don't deserve to go to jail. They deserve to go to hell.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: bigperm on January 31, 2014, 07:13:48 PM
:stonk: God damn. I'm generally inured to Internet horror stories but somehow that one rattled me a lot. Eight fucking days? And they weren't even on drugs? (Not that it would be any excuse of course, but I can't imagine how you could be that reckless outside of a heroin daze or something.)

Whatever prisons they end up in, those will be the first jails where chimos have someone to look down on.

This has happened in Asia before.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on January 31, 2014, 10:23:49 PM
:stonk: God damn. I'm generally inured to Internet horror stories but somehow that one rattled me a lot. Eight fucking days? And they weren't even on drugs? (Not that it would be any excuse of course, but I can't imagine how you could be that reckless outside of a heroin daze or something.)

Whatever prisons they end up in, those will be the first jails where chimos have someone to look down on.

This has happened in Asia before.


Yeah but slants and slopes are little yellow insects, not actual people.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on February 03, 2014, 09:46:34 PM
Hahaha jesus
http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/why-don-39-t-want-kids-doing-chores-211200369.html

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"Don't underestimate your child - independence can start early at home!" Maria Montessori wrote on her Facebook page, which features an age-appropriate chore chart for children. My older daughter is five, and just yesterday, she silently got the broom out of the pantry and swept the kitchen floor. Then she asked me to retrieve the dustpan for her since it was out of her reach.

I sighed loudly. "I'll just do it," I said as I swept up the pile of dried peas and other assorted remnants from dinners past.
She looked dejected. I know, I know I'm supposed to let her do this stuff. Or even make her do it. She learns autonomy, responsibility, and accountability by doing chores. She likes doing chores. She asks for chores.
...
What I don't get, however, is why I have to pain myself to teach them how to clean when what they're doing is not actually cleaning, but usually making more of a mess, which is just more work for me. It's more work for me to nag them to tell them to do it. There is often screaming, tears, and resentment on both sides. When my kids feel like doing something useful, they usually just do it. When I ask or tell them to, it's like Act II, Scene IV. Not everything has to be a thing. Sometimes kids can just do stuff with you without it being an official part of their day. Adults don't appreciate or function particularly well when their every waking minute is filled with tasks. Why would kids be any different?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on February 03, 2014, 09:58:05 PM
Hahaha jesus
http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/why-don-39-t-want-kids-doing-chores-211200369.html

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"Don't underestimate your child - independence can start early at home!" Maria Montessori wrote on her Facebook page, which features an age-appropriate chore chart for children. My older daughter is five, and just yesterday, she silently got the broom out of the pantry and swept the kitchen floor. Then she asked me to retrieve the dustpan for her since it was out of her reach.

I sighed loudly. "I'll just do it," I said as I swept up the pile of dried peas and other assorted remnants from dinners past.
She looked dejected. I know, I know I'm supposed to let her do this stuff. Or even make her do it. She learns autonomy, responsibility, and accountability by doing chores. She likes doing chores. She asks for chores.
...
What I don't get, however, is why I have to pain myself to teach them how to clean when what they're doing is not actually cleaning, but usually making more of a mess, which is just more work for me. It's more work for me to nag them to tell them to do it. There is often screaming, tears, and resentment on both sides. When my kids feel like doing something useful, they usually just do it. When I ask or tell them to, it's like Act II, Scene IV. Not everything has to be a thing. Sometimes kids can just do stuff with you without it being an official part of their day. Adults don't appreciate or function particularly well when their every waking minute is filled with tasks. Why would kids be any different?

In 14 years an elder tuss meets his bride in the biggest FUCK YOU MOM ever and this bitch won't be able to figure out why.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on February 03, 2014, 10:00:06 PM
man, why do we even send kids to school? theyre just stupid and you'll just have to tell them they're wrong. i just dont understand!!!!
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on February 04, 2014, 06:34:09 AM
Hahaha jesus
http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/why-don-39-t-want-kids-doing-chores-211200369.html

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"Don't underestimate your child - independence can start early at home!" Maria Montessori wrote on her Facebook page, which features an age-appropriate chore chart for children. My older daughter is five, and just yesterday, she silently got the broom out of the pantry and swept the kitchen floor. Then she asked me to retrieve the dustpan for her since it was out of her reach.

I sighed loudly. "I'll just do it," I said as I swept up the pile of dried peas and other assorted remnants from dinners past.
She looked dejected. I know, I know I'm supposed to let her do this stuff. Or even make her do it. She learns autonomy, responsibility, and accountability by doing chores. She likes doing chores. She asks for chores.
...
What I don't get, however, is why I have to pain myself to teach them how to clean when what they're doing is not actually cleaning, but usually making more of a mess, which is just more work for me. It's more work for me to nag them to tell them to do it. There is often screaming, tears, and resentment on both sides. When my kids feel like doing something useful, they usually just do it. When I ask or tell them to, it's like Act II, Scene IV. Not everything has to be a thing. Sometimes kids can just do stuff with you without it being an official part of their day. Adults don't appreciate or function particularly well when their every waking minute is filled with tasks. Why would kids be any different?

:goonette:: "Parenting is hard!" :(
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danish Plastic Bigotry on February 04, 2014, 08:06:19 PM
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What I don't get, however, is why I have to pain myself to teach them how to clean when what they're doing is not actually cleaning, but usually making more of a mess, which is just more work for me. It's more work for me to nag them to tell them to do it. There is often screaming, tears, and resentment on both sides.


Jesus, it's almost as if part of learning how to do something is fucking it up when you try at first. It's fortunate kids have the motor skills of fully grown adults!

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I continually strive to impart unto my kids the importance of being empathetic, kind, smart, and conscientious. I'm just not sure why any of it has to involve a Swiffer mop and a can of Pledge.

If we, as a family, can make it through a 24-hour period without something or someone breaking, bleeding, or bawling, I consider us all a success.

Uh, it involves a mop because letting your five-year-old help you mop doesn't mean your goal is child labor and sparkling floors. Parenting your children by omitting part of the socializing process: I consider it a success!
:goonette:



also lolling at the chart not because of its content, but at how many E/N goons are less capable than eight- or nine-year-olds

(http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/blogs/partner/470_2754437.png)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: woulduliketonomoar on February 05, 2014, 08:10:35 AM
My 19mo old daughter is capable of putting her shoes on by herself. Not because I taught her, but because I let her attempt it on her own screw ups and all. In fact she would get pissed if I tried to help her.

It's almost as if kids will only learn by self motivated trial and error.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: HanglyMan on February 07, 2014, 12:01:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMCF0qbh6SM

I registered so I could post that I'm working on a project that's really really amazingly remarkably similar to this.  And it has half a million in VC backing.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: White Rapper on February 07, 2014, 12:35:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMCF0qbh6SM

I registered so I could post that I'm working on a project that's really really amazingly remarkably similar to this.  And it has half a million in VC backing.

Is it called the "Fuckit List" and about people you wanna bang from your facebook?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: As a white male I on February 07, 2014, 12:43:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMCF0qbh6SM

I registered so I could post that I'm working on a project that's really really amazingly remarkably similar to this.  And it has half a million in VC backing.

Well not all is lost, pyramid scams can be pretty good if you're at the top.

You are at the top, right?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: HanglyMan on February 07, 2014, 12:56:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMCF0qbh6SM

I registered so I could post that I'm working on a project that's really really amazingly remarkably similar to this.  And it has half a million in VC backing.

Well not all is lost, pyramid scams can be pretty good if you're at the top.

You are at the top, right?

I'm off to the side.

I've quit projects before because they were run by GenY morons with really stupid ideas who wasted too much VC money on stupid shit and I felt bad about it.  @pp @nnie commissioned 3 murals from me at over $1000 a pop that they never even fucking used.  Because who the fuck cares when its not your money. 
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on February 07, 2014, 06:49:33 PM
Who's worse, US Gen Y or Chinese Gen Y?

Do they even have X/Y types over there?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: White Rapper on February 07, 2014, 06:51:55 PM
Who's worse, US Gen Y or Chinese Gen Y?

Do they even have X/Y types over there?

China is an entire country of spoiled only children raise by other spoiled only children.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: HanglyMan on February 07, 2014, 08:31:01 PM
Who's worse, US Gen Y or Chinese Gen Y?

Do they even have X/Y types over there?

Sort of.  As soon as any family manages to pull itself out of grinding poverty all the work ethic goes out the window and they start playing video games on their office computers, paying $3000/pop for high class whores and eating out literally every goddamn day. 

They see how GenY offices run and they do their best to emulate that, thinking that must be what they need to do to become rich and successful.

So I take back what I said before, China will collapse in a huge failure pile.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: HanglyMan on February 07, 2014, 08:33:21 PM
Being a peasant has nothing to do with opportunity, it's a state of mind. 

A peasant works only as hard as he has to.  His preferred state of being is sitting staring off into space, hopefully drunk and/or having his dick sucked.  China is a nation of peasants.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Waltzing Matilda on February 11, 2014, 06:14:29 PM
AusPol is currently hating on this article.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/money-in-property-is-as-safe-as-houses/story-fni0fhh1-1226821900406

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Meanwhile befuddled doomsayers are being cheered on by the Gen Y property whiners. This is the entitled group of unrelenting whingers who seem to think that they should be able to own their dream home in their dream inner-city suburb while maintaining an extravagant lifestyle — and all in their 20s.

Despite the wailing you’ve undoubtedly heard from these prospective home buyers, it is not difficult to enter the property market — but first-home buyers must be a little more realistic about their ambitions. You can’t expect to go from zero to hero in one transaction, not unless you have rich parents willing to part with their hard-earned. Too many members of Generation Now seem to think that if they can’t afford a luxurious pad with bay views, then it must follow that they have been priced out of the property market.

The first step into property ownership may be a dingy flat or a unit in a suburb that’s less than ideal, but that’s life; anything worth doing takes time. You don’t get a master’s degree after your first year at university and you can’t expect to go from renter to property owner without some careful long-term planning. After a few years, you’ll most likely be in a position to upgrade to something better and eventually you can graduate to that dream property with four bedrooms and three bathrooms.

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In many migrant communities, home ownership isn’t considered an option; renting is for suckers and families will pool resources to ensure their children can enter the market as soon as possible. REIV analysis of census data shows many migrants have better home ownership rates than those born here. Indeed, according to the 2012 data, Australians don’t even break into the top 30 in home ownership rates in their own country.

Boomers have been observing for years that Gen Y feels entitled to have when they're starting out what it took their parents until middle age to acquire.  The response is usually along the lines of "but you got free university" or "the economy".  The uptake rate for free university was actually very small, in part because at the time it was introduced university wasn't perceived as something one attended to become "well-rounded". 

And "the economy" is bullshit too.  Boomers have suffered through more economic downturns and recessions than Gen Y and plenty of them entered the labour market when unemployment levels were higher than they are now.

The truth is that Gen Y want to be paid mortgage-servicing wages in their 20s for working 40 hours a week at lower end of the food chain jobs.  Migrant families do "better" economically primarily because they're willing to work multiple jobs and longer hours and everyone in the family is expected to contribute financially.  They create income streams in addition to their "day job" instead of sitting around feeling entitled to a higher hourly rate so they can afford a mortgage. 

If Australians had the same work ethic and dropped their sense of entitlement, they'd have the highest rate of home ownership in their own country rather than being 30th.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on February 11, 2014, 06:27:42 PM
i dunno if thats a gen cry phenomenon in this case

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Melbourne_House_prices_from_1965_to_1912.jpg)

and the author isnt an economist and rarely even writes about economic issues

from what i see of friends getting into property its certainly possible to get the money, but i can certainly see why a lot of people avoid it.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Waltzing Matilda on February 11, 2014, 08:13:40 PM
i dunno if thats a gen cry phenomenon in this case

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Melbourne_House_prices_from_1965_to_1912.jpg)

and the author isnt an economist and rarely even writes about economic issues

from what i see of friends getting into property its certainly possible to get the money, but i can certainly see why a lot of people avoid it.

I'm not saying that house prices haven't risen relative to wages, they have.  But to make an accurate comparison you should probably use median household income as the benchmark rather than median wage as most couples looking to enter the property market now will have both partners working, which wasn't the situation in the 1960s or even the 1970s.  If you adjust for that, the increase isn't nearly as dramatic.

It's also worth pointing out that changed lending policies have also led to people borrowing a greater proportion of the purchase price of their home (and often extra money for renovation on top of that).  We went from a situation where it was virtually impossible to get a mortgage without a deposit of 20% and where you wouldn't be approved for a loan if the repayments were more than 25-30% of your gross income (and even if both partners were working only the primary income earner's income was counted was counted in full) to a situation where you could qualify for a mortgage with a deposit of as little as 5% and the repayment cap was not only higher but based on two incomes. 

A few years ago, average mortgage payments in all capital cities were hovering around the 39-40% mark.  These are loans which simply wouldn't have been approved in earlier times.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on February 11, 2014, 08:28:23 PM
I'm not saying that house prices haven't risen relative to wages, they have.  But to make an accurate comparison you should probably use median household income as the benchmark rather than median wage as most couples looking to enter the property market now will have both partners working, which wasn't the situation in the 1960s or even the 1970s.  If you adjust for that, the increase isn't nearly as dramatic.
i dont think thats really a fair comparison actually. its kind of weird to say a prior generation had it harder when only one person in a household needed to work to buy a house.

It's also worth pointing out that changed lending policies have also led to people borrowing a greater proportion of the purchase price of their home (and often extra money for renovation on top of that).  We went from a situation where it was virtually impossible to get a mortgage without a deposit of 20% and where you wouldn't be approved for a loan if the repayments were more than 25-30% of your gross income (and even if both partners were working only the primary income earner's income was counted was counted in full) to a situation where you could qualify for a mortgage with a deposit of as little as 5% and the repayment cap was not only higher but based on two incomes. 

A few years ago, average mortgage payments in all capital cities were hovering around the 39-40% mark.  These are loans which simply wouldn't have been approved in earlier times.

the real thrust of the column is actually that some economists are wrong about australia having a housing bubble and you're telling me that lending standards have been loosened in a time of soaring prices
:adam:


i dont care too much about the generation shit, but this is the exact kind of shit people were writing before any other bubble. it isnt like the columnist is any kind of expert on what shes talking about here. neither am i really, but im not really making any proclamations here
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Waltzing Matilda on February 12, 2014, 01:52:25 AM
If the government really wanted to put downward pressure on the housing market the quickest way to do it would be to abolish negative gearing first and then release more land.

At the moment, more mortgages are approved for investment properties than for owner-occupied properties.  I'm not sure if the figure has increased or decreased, but going back a few years ago the average home buying was selling within 3 years - meaning that even a lot of people buying starter homes were wanting to flip them quickly. 

That's a very different market than in the 1960s and 1970s where most people bought and occupied their homes for decades and didn't sell them until later life, if at all.  The tax transfer system was totally different at the time and heavily biased in favour of married men with children (one reason women's wages were lower is that working women were presumed to have no dependents).  Social factors were also very different, with divorce - and therefore the splitting of assets throughout someone's working lifetime - being uncommon.

It remains substantially true that people who hold onto property long-term are unlikely to lose money.  Most buyers these days want their property values to increase quickly now, though - either because they're investors or because they're owner-occupiers looking to "upgrade" in the relatively short term.  That's not something which mattered so much when people lived in the same house for at least 20 or 30 years and many people's homes weren't sold until their death.

The increasing casualisation of the work-force also affects people's ability to service long term debt, and that casualisation affects both blue and white collar workers.  Simply comparing wages and house prices "then" to wages and house prices "now" ignores the factors other than property prices which affect not just entry into the property market but the ability of people to remain property owners over the long-term.  People also expect "more" in an average house, now.  The 4 room houses of my childhood (with outdoor laundry and often an outdoor toilet) are uncommon now and those that still exist tend to be below average price.  People want more bedrooms, more bathrooms and more living areas than the houses of our parents and grandparents had and that is reflected in both building and sale prices.

There are many unintended consequences to the way our society has changed over the last 50 to 60 years and even some changes which are regarded as socially "good" (divorce being made easier, a much greater percentage of women participating in the labour market after marriage) have had an impact on how accessible the housing market is to people, but the government prioritising home ownership over property investment would go a long way towards reversing that trend.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on February 12, 2014, 03:15:26 AM
It remains substantially true that people who hold onto property long-term are unlikely to lose money.  Most buyers these days want their property values to increase quickly now, though - either because they're investors or because they're owner-occupiers looking to "upgrade" in the relatively short term.  That's not something which mattered so much when people lived in the same house for at least 20 or 30 years and many people's homes weren't sold until their death.
if you choose wisely, any investment will make you money in the long term. but on the other hand i think the last few years have proved that real estate is not a sure thing, like any other investment, although yes it has traditionally been more safe.

The increasing casualisation of the work-force also affects people's ability to service long term debt, and that casualisation affects both blue and white collar workers.  Simply comparing wages and house prices "then" to wages and house prices "now" ignores the factors other than property prices which affect not just entry into the property market but the ability of people to remain property owners over the long-term.  People also expect "more" in an average house, now.
small 2 bedroom places or even tiny apartments are fetching record prices too. im not even talking new buildings or renovated places here either. ive got a coworker looking for a small 2 bedroom place now and hes looking at something like 800k for the area he wants to buy in, which is a decent suburb but not exactly richville


i dont especially care to argue about govt policy, but housing prices in melbourne are off the charts and i wouldnt be surprised at all if there was a bubble. if there isnt one, well whatever im wrong. there is a lot of immigration and hence demand is up, rent is pretty high too, so maybe there isnt a bubble. but the prices are sky high here and im not at all surprised a lot of people arent even trying to buy property. i mean ffs, housing prices in melbourne have doubled in the last 10 years alone.


also ive seen how some councils try to fuck over homeowners so im personally not that convinced of the benefits of owning your own property in some parts of this country but w/e
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Waltzing Matilda on February 12, 2014, 03:52:03 AM
RBA thinks we're not in a bubble.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-12/jericho-what-housing-bubble/5252438

Housing prices in Sydney are high.  My son and daughter-in-law paid $730,000 for a nice but far from luxurious apartment in a nice but far from richville area.  They still have a fair commute.

Around my area, outer suburbs with commutes of 60-90 minutes each way per day, a fairly average house is about $430,000 in the less desirable suburbs and $500,000 plus in the newer estates.  This has lead to many people moving to the Central coast.  The commute is about the same, but housing prices were significantly lower - although the exodus of people from outer Sydney has pushed prices up dramatically over the past 12-18 months but many still consider the lifestyle better even if the gap in prices is closing.

Our prices are high, although not as high as desirable cities in the UK and the US.  The vast majority of us live near the coast and mostly in and around the capital cities - which is why we have such a problem with urban sprawl reaching ever outwards.  We're not great fans of even medium density housing, let alone of high-rise apartment living and I don't see that changing any time soon. 

We're not going to see "affordable" apartment blocks close to the city because people want exceptional facilities in return for giving up their own backyard.  The apartment block in which my son and daughter-in-law live has shopping centre underneath.  Banks, restaurants, supermarkets, specialty shops, doctors, etc are all a lift ride away. 

But most Aussies don't want to raise children within 4 walls - they want them to have a back yard to run around in.  They want to be able to entertain outside with some degree of privacy.  That may change in the future, but it will change very slowly - not within my lifetime and probably not within yours either.

And you're right.  Home ownership doesn't make sense for a lot of people and I'm seeing some young people decide that they'd rather rather spend money on experiences or direct money towards their retirement than on purchasing an asset to leave to the next generation.  They're questioning whether their Great Australian Dream must include mortgage payments.

I'm not especially passionate about the housing bubble debate.  At the moment I'm mostly trying to find non-crime related topics to immerse myself in to distract myself from the likelihood of my suburb exploding following an especially nasty crime happening here last weekend.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on February 12, 2014, 06:27:20 PM
well if the RBA doesnt think we're in a bubble  :bernanke:

did the fed reserve foresee the US housing bubble?


"proving" a bubble exists or not isnt going to happen until it bursts. theres too much money at stake and any evidence that a bubble exists (or doesnt exist) will be handwaved away by the opposite side. there are experts on both sides saying there is and there isnt a bubble. i dont particularly care because i dont own property, but i wouldnt be surprised if there was one. people should be open to the possibility that there is one because its going to really hurt if it bursts and they might exercise a little more caution if they had a reason to suspect something was going on.

there are other good reasons for prices being insane, but you cant say that on the one hand real estate is a good safe low risk investment that will pay out in the long run and say that doubling prices within a couple of years is totally normal and expected for a safe low risk investment
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: skink shamed on February 12, 2014, 08:05:37 PM
i dont think thats really a fair comparison actually. its kind of weird to say a prior generation had it harder when only one person in a household needed to work to buy a house.
fucking.  :reagan:


it isnt like the columnist is any kind of expert on what shes talking about here.
double whammy, case closed

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Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Waltzing Matilda on February 12, 2014, 08:07:45 PM
i dont particularly care because i dont own property, but i wouldnt be surprised if there was one. people should be open to the possibility that there is one because its going to really hurt if it bursts and they might exercise a little more caution if they had a reason to suspect something was going on.

Based on past behaviour, people ignore warnings.  House prices around here (and a few other places I randomly checked the data for) had been in decline for several years before the "GFC". 

Hell, Kevin Rudd explicitly warned people not to enter the market post-GFC if they were barely able to do so because they wouldn't be able to afford their mortgages when interest rates returned to normal and they couldn't assume that they'd have better jobs or higher pay in a few years (which is what people who can barely afford a mortgage often tell themselves) - if forced to sell because they couldn't maintain their mortgage, they would lose money.  Of course people tend not to listen when they think they're getting a "once in a lifetime" opportunity.

The government could do a lot to make housing more affordable.  Under-supply is the big thing making it expensive in places like Sydney and Melbourne.  Negative gearing was originally introduced to encourage building.  What happened was that investors started buying up established homes rather than building new ones, making fewer established homes available for purchase by first home buyers.

You could change negative gearing rules so that they only apply to newly built homes or extensively renovated properties.  You can discourage the building of cheap and nasty shit boxes by allowing negative gearing only on the type of properties the government wants people to build (whether that's your standard home in the suburbs or medium and high density housing close to the city). 

You can stop what happened in Perth by not allowing developers to knock down everything in sight.  You can create incentives for multiple occupancy on existing large blocks or converting previously commercial properties into residential properties.  You can release more land.

People have different housing needs and they're often related to lifestyle.  It's possible to create government policies which address those needs and ensure more balanced supply and demand but the political will must exist first and I don't believe it does right now.  Our cities have "grown like topsy" and the infrastructure to support that growth doesn't exist. 

Yeah, putting industrial parks out in the suburbs helps somewhat, but they're not going to offer employment for the majority of people living near them so you're still going to have the issue of living close to work being hugely expensive for most people and owning a typical family home on a decent sized block requiring people to live in the ever-outer suburbs as that style of housing is increasingly replaced by medium density housing closer to the city.

You also have the problem of potential buyers wanting prices to ease while existing owners and investors want the under-supply to continue.  The vast majority of people's net worth is tied up in their home so if you want housing prices to fall you need to encourage other types of investment.

Now would be an ideal time for the government to decide what it wants.  As Boomers age and die, a lot of properties which haven't been for sale for decades are going to come onto the market and government policy can influence whether it's more attractive for them to be kept as high end single family dwellings or replaced my multiple smaller (and cheaper) dwellings on the same property.

For the most part, I would be happy to roll back the clock to the 1960s and 1970s, but you can't roll back just one aspect.  I think you'll find that many, many young Australians would be very vocally against a world in which the clock was turned back if they fully understood the economic dynamics of the time and how our protectionist trade policies and strong trade unions contributed to the relative affluence of the average Australian, let alone how much more restricted our social safety nets were.

I don't think there's ever been a generation as in love with their gadgets as this one.  They might think that they'd gladly trade those cheap gadgets for job security, smaller but cheaper housing and fewer social safety nets, but I have my doubts.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on February 12, 2014, 08:19:47 PM
Under-supply is the big thing making it expensive in places like Sydney and Melbourne.


You can discourage the building of cheap and nasty shit boxes by allowing negative gearing only on the type of properties the government wants people to build

huh
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Waltzing Matilda on February 12, 2014, 08:35:23 PM
Under-supply is the big thing making it expensive in places like Sydney and Melbourne.


You can discourage the building of cheap and nasty shit boxes by allowing negative gearing only on the type of properties the government wants people to build

huh

If you want to discourage the building of cheap shit-boxes which are going to fall apart in 15 years, then you let people negative gear only on properties of a higher standard.  You can still encourage building multiple dwellings on one block to increase supply or building in newly opened up areas while discouraging the low quality building which characterises many of the new estates in Sydney and on the Central Coast.

Building soulless, low quality high-rise apartment blocks would solve the supply problem too but there are many reasons not to take that route.  You can increase housing supply without ghetto-ising the city and suburbs.  You can make the market less attractive to investors and more attractive to owner-occupiers.  Governments introduce policies aimed at specific outcomes all the time.  I just don't think the political will exists right now to change the dynamics of the property market from investor dominated to owner-occupier dominated.

Waterfront homes in trendy suburbs are always going to be expensive, but there's a hell of a lot which could be done to make average homes in average suburbs more affordable.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on February 12, 2014, 08:46:40 PM
Under-supply is the big thing making it expensive in places like Sydney and Melbourne.


You can discourage the building of cheap and nasty shit boxes by allowing negative gearing only on the type of properties the government wants people to build

huh

If you want to discourage the building of cheap shit-boxes which are going to fall apart in 15 years, then you let people negative gear only on properties of a higher standard.  You can still encourage building multiple dwellings on one block to increase supply or building in newly opened up areas while discouraging the low quality building which characterises many of the new estates in Sydney and on the Central Coast.

Building soulless, low quality high-rise apartment blocks would solve the supply problem too but there are many reasons not to take that route.  You can increase housing supply without ghetto-ising the city and suburbs.  You can make the market less attractive to investors and more attractive to owner-occupiers.  Governments introduce policies aimed at specific outcomes all the time.  I just don't think the political will exists right now to change the dynamics of the property market from investor dominated to owner-occupier dominated.

Waterfront homes in trendy suburbs are always going to be expensive, but there's a hell of a lot which could be done to make average homes in average suburbs more affordable.

shitboxes alleviate the demand on "medium quality" housing in average suburbs and lower prices. i know everyone hates developers but theyre only filling in demand, because people are spending a lot of money on tiny apartments. sucks to have one build apartments next to you, but w/e

again i dont care about government policy, because the government seldom gets what theyre aiming for anyway.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on February 12, 2014, 08:54:16 PM
the other thing that perplexes me about the housing boom here is that the construction industry is slow as shit and has been contracting for the last 5 years
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Waltzing Matilda on February 12, 2014, 09:09:26 PM
the other thing that perplexes me about the housing boom here is that the construction industry is slow as shit and has been contracting for the last 5 years

It's picking up a little bit here and on the Central Coast now, but not a lot in "average" areas (it's picked up quite a bit in the more exclusive areas of the Central Coast, though).

A lot of the "starter homes" on the new estates aren't especially attractive to first home buyers.  Like McMansions, they're often built to within 12 inches of the property line and have a tiny back yard.  They're the kind of home you'd rent while saving for a deposit, but not the kind of home most people would want to live in for more than a couple of years - so they're not that attractive to first home buyers who want to upgrade within a few years.  You don't want to be stuck with them more than 10 years after they've been built because they're going to need some major work due to their poor quality.

The "bubble" is primarily fuelled by investors, who buy both the majority of established homes coming onto the market as well as a lot of the lower end new homes.

Two of my family members work in residential construction and it's been very erratic for the last couple of years.  I believe commercial construction is doing somewhat better, though.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on February 12, 2014, 09:37:32 PM
the other thing that perplexes me about the housing boom here is that the construction industry is slow as shit and has been contracting for the last 5 years

It's picking up a little bit here and on the Central Coast now, but not a lot in "average" areas (it's picked up quite a bit in the more exclusive areas of the Central Coast, though).

A lot of the "starter homes" on the new estates aren't especially attractive to first home buyers.  Like McMansions, they're often built to within 12 inches of the property line and have a tiny back yard.  They're the kind of home you'd rent while saving for a deposit, but not the kind of home most people would want to live in for more than a couple of years - so they're not that attractive to first home buyers who want to upgrade within a few years.  You don't want to be stuck with them more than 10 years after they've been built because they're going to need some major work due to their poor quality.

The "bubble" is primarily fuelled by investors, who buy both the majority of established homes coming onto the market as well as a lot of the lower end new homes.

Two of my family members work in residential construction and it's been very erratic for the last couple of years.  I believe commercial construction is doing somewhat better, though.

i work in construction and its been near dead the last 3 years

investors inflating prices only suggests it is more of a bubble, honestly i wasnt sure if it was a bubble coming into this thread but now im starting to think it looks more and more like one
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on February 22, 2014, 10:11:58 PM
http://m.xojane.com/sex/duke-university-freshman-porn-star?utm_medium=facebook (http://m.xojane.com/sex/duke-university-freshman-porn-star?utm_medium=facebook)

This article comprises everything that is bad about both feminism AND Gen Y.  It's like the perfect article of entitlement and expecting zero consequences for their actions all while wrapped up in a feminist package of patriarchy. 

Basically it's about a porn star who is at Duke University, people found out who she was, exposed her, and now she's angry that people are being mean to her.  She also apparently thinks that her past won't come back to haunt her in the professional world.  Holy shit, this article is hilarious. 

The article is basically lots of  :christina: :ultlibrage: and  :facepalm:.  It's so insanely stereotypical that we could not have written a better article than this.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: armchair nazi on February 22, 2014, 10:50:53 PM
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Sex workers can't be feminists? Ugh. You're gross.
:say:
 :goonette:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: High Impact Sexbot 2020 on February 22, 2014, 10:59:53 PM
Just try to stop me.

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Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: As a white male I on February 23, 2014, 05:34:17 AM
Just try to stop me.

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LMAO

Gen Y in a nutshell.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OMNIPRESENT CYBERFILTH on February 23, 2014, 07:16:53 AM
http://m.xojane.com/sex/duke-university-freshman-porn-star?utm_medium=facebook (http://m.xojane.com/sex/duke-university-freshman-porn-star?utm_medium=facebook)

This article comprises everything that is bad about both feminism AND Gen Y.  It's like the perfect article of entitlement and expecting zero consequences for their actions all while wrapped up in a feminist package of patriarchy. 

Basically it's about a porn star who is at Duke University, people found out who she was, exposed her, and now she's angry that people are being mean to her.  She also apparently thinks that her past won't come back to haunt her in the professional world.  Holy shit, this article is hilarious. 

The article is basically lots of  :christina: :ultlibrage: and  :facepalm:.  It's so insanely stereotypical that we could not have written a better article than this.

LOL this is what happens when you have a system of authority that teaches the most superficial sort of expression without fostering the slightest hint of self reflection.  My favorite line, double plus bolded and italicized: 

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Patriarchy fears female sexuality.

You have got to be kidding me.  The "patriarchy" loves female sexuality, it sells it in advertisements for everything from booze to cars and is absolutely vital to the same permanent adolescence attitude that women then turn right back around and decry when they complain "there's no good guys around".  Hint to the absolute moronic:  young guys do whatever it takes to get laid, and clearly dudebros do and have no problems with women slutting it up.  In fact, a chick opening up with no commitment is exactly what they want, especially when the woman in question clearly exhibits the worst sort of narcissistic personality and her only skill is taking cock like a pro.

It's especially lol that goony faggots limp out so hard against "slut shaming" when it's their only actual chance to ever get sex from something they didn't pay money for. 

Hahaha more gold:

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I am going to graduate, I am going to pursue my dreams and I will hopefully galvanize change in a world wrought with gender norms and sexism.

Changing the world one gangbang at a time.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on February 23, 2014, 09:17:44 AM
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I couldn't afford $60,000 in tuition, my family has undergone significant financial burden, and I saw a way to graduate from my dream school free of debt, doing something I absolutely love.
Ahahah. This dumb bitch wants to be a lawyer. She's fucking delusional if she really think she'll be making enough just to cover Duke's tuition.

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the author of the piece notes it was enough to purchase an array of designer handbags, and keep her in school.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/duke-freshman-paying-tuition-porn-star-article-1.1698497#ixzz2u9f636OW

Good, she deserves what she gets.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: LITERALLY A RAPIST on February 23, 2014, 10:08:37 AM
lol because doing gen ed credits at community college was less appealing than having strange men cum on your face for an audience
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Aran on February 23, 2014, 10:12:05 AM
She's cute. http://www.zishy.com/uploads/thumbs/Belle%20Knox%20Beyond%20Shopping/single_117-647852IMG_2432.jpg

Not nude, but not really work safe either.

Belle Knox
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Agent of Aspieonage on February 23, 2014, 10:31:49 AM
She's cute. http://www.zishy.com/uploads/thumbs/Belle%20Knox%20Beyond%20Shopping/single_117-647852IMG_2432.jpg

Not nude, but not really work safe either.

Belle Knox

NWS:

http://www.matrixmodels.com/profile.php?id=830

C cup my aunt Fanny. She's a C cup like Ozma is traditionally beautiful.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: As a white male I on February 23, 2014, 10:41:16 AM
She's cute. http://www.zishy.com/uploads/thumbs/Belle%20Knox%20Beyond%20Shopping/single_117-647852IMG_2432.jpg

Meh.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: LITERALLY A RAPIST on February 23, 2014, 10:44:38 AM
someone posted a nude of her at MPC with cutting scars visible on her upper thighs. sounds well-balanced to me.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on February 23, 2014, 10:47:19 AM
xoJane is becoming one of my most favorite sites :allears:

Reminds me of that negress who chimped out when quitting her accounting job: everyone will pat her on the back and then move on to the newest brave young womyn who wants to fight the system.  For this chick, some low ranked law school will take her (the good ones won't because pozzed as they are, they don't want to fuck up their US News and World Report rankings), she'll graduate, and will have to fight the ABA when it comes time to post about their character.  They will let her through I'm sure and no good firm will hire her because there are literally thousands of people applying for one position; some preachy pornslut is going to be low on their list of qualified applicants.  There is such a huge oversupply of lawyers that she won't find anything.  Then, broke as a joke, she returns to porn where although she isn't bad looking, she isn't a bombshell and in order to make any kind of money, her asshole gets gaped by giant black dicks for money.

Another victory against the patriarchy :tuss:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dental Grade Dildo on February 23, 2014, 10:50:57 AM
According to google, powerword Miriam Weeks.

Wasn't sure if it was correct at first (a shade too gentile a name for a jewbeak of that size), but Weeks' writing matches:

http://sites.duke.edu/develledish/2013/10/24/just-say-no-to-rape/

http://sites.duke.edu/develledish/2013/10/03/interview-with-the-reverend-dr-jennifer-copeland/

The first one is exactly what you'd expect and what you've read a hundred times. The second might make you wonder "wait she actually talked to a preacher without screaming about patriarchy and the Salem witch trials?", but rest assured, they got along just fine:

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And you also teach Women’s Studies classes?

Copeland: I am an ordained clergy person but since I have the credentials I also teach women’s studies and in the Divinity School. It is not necessarily what I was sent here to do, but it is what I like to do.

What is it like being a female preacher?

Copeland: On a campus like Duke, it’s easy. Out in the real world, still in practice where conservative attitudes still prevail, it’s hasn’t been easy. I did that for ten years; I was the pastor of a local church for ten years. I’ve had people walk out of the church before the worship started because they didn’t think a woman should be leading worship. I’ve had people remove their name from membership before I moved to the church because they knew I would be presiding over the service. I’ve never had anyone protest during the service, they usually make their complaints known afterwards. I’ve had petitions circulated in the community and then sent to what would ostensibly be my boss, the district superintendent, that I should be removed from leading the services, because women shouldn’t be leading church services.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on March 03, 2014, 05:28:02 PM
It's finally happened, a Gen Y kid is suing her parents for money so that she can continue being a freeloader.

http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/nj-teen-sues-parents-for-cash-and-college-tuition-201404488.html (http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/nj-teen-sues-parents-for-cash-and-college-tuition-201404488.html)

We've reached peak Millennial and Narcissism here, no where to go from here except into the abyss.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Aran on March 03, 2014, 05:52:47 PM
I hope someone rapes her.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Bitter Weirdo on March 03, 2014, 06:56:48 PM
It's finally happened, a Gen Y kid is suing her parents for money so that she can continue being a freeloader.

http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/nj-teen-sues-parents-for-cash-and-college-tuition-201404488.html (http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/nj-teen-sues-parents-for-cash-and-college-tuition-201404488.html)

We've reached peak Millennial and Narcissism here, no where to go from here except into the abyss.

It says something about the state of the culture when something like this is real and not just a headline from the Onion.  :evola:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Agent of Aspieonage on March 03, 2014, 07:11:14 PM
Boomer lays smackdown on gen Y fag, fag makes her OWN smackdown viral for some reason.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/02/28/nr-intv-marian-salzman-linkedin-viral-email-millenials.cnn.html
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: deeply jewish kind of pervert on March 03, 2014, 10:23:45 PM
I can't believe it's becoming more and more acceptable to run to social media whenever things don't go your way. She doesn't have a leg to stand on trying to be all apologetic and respectful about getting put in her place if the first thing she does is post a private e-mail for the internet to gawk at. Fucking shameful.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on March 03, 2014, 11:02:06 PM
It was shitty to run to reddit about it, but that woman is a recruiter who could just as easily pass the name along instead of being super cunt.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dr. Hatchet-Wound on March 05, 2014, 11:23:56 AM
It's finally happened, a Gen Y kid is suing her parents for money so that she can continue being a freeloader.

http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/nj-teen-sues-parents-for-cash-and-college-tuition-201404488.html (http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/nj-teen-sues-parents-for-cash-and-college-tuition-201404488.html)

We've reached peak Millennial and Narcissism here, no where to go from here except into the abyss.

On video, with cum all over her face within the year.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Ghostse on March 05, 2014, 11:54:03 AM
It's finally happened, a Gen Y kid is suing her parents for money so that she can continue being a freeloader.

http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/nj-teen-sues-parents-for-cash-and-college-tuition-201404488.html (http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/nj-teen-sues-parents-for-cash-and-college-tuition-201404488.html)

We've reached peak Millennial and Narcissism here, no where to go from here except into the abyss.

Judge to Entitled Bitch: :lolno:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/04/justice/student-sues-parents-new-jersey/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: The Watcher on March 05, 2014, 12:04:41 PM
It's finally happened, a Gen Y kid is suing her parents for money so that she can continue being a freeloader.

http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/nj-teen-sues-parents-for-cash-and-college-tuition-201404488.html (http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/nj-teen-sues-parents-for-cash-and-college-tuition-201404488.html)

We've reached peak Millennial and Narcissism here, no where to go from here except into the abyss.

On video, with cum all over her face within the year.
You don't have to wait for it to get on film. She is gonna want a hot meal and a place to sleep soon :twisted: .
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danger-Weiner on March 05, 2014, 12:19:37 PM
she has a shitbag bf her parents hate maybe he will turn her out
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danger-Weiner on March 05, 2014, 12:27:39 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/02/us/facebook-post-costs-father/index.html

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(CNN) -- The former head of a private preparatory school in Miami, Florida is out an $80,000 discrimination settlement after his daughter boasted about it on Facebook.

Patrick Snay, 69 -- the former head of Gulliver Preparatory School -- filed an age discrimination complaint when his 2010-11 contract wasn't renewed.

In November 2011, the school and Snay came to an agreement in which Snay would be paid $10,000 in back pay, and an $80,000 settlement. Gulliver Schools also agreed to cut Snay's attorneys a check for $60,000.

But before the ink could dry on the deal, Snay's daughter took to Facebook, boasting, "Mama and Papa Snay won the case against Gulliver. Gulliver is now officially paying for my vacation to Europe this summer. SUCK IT."

Snay's daughter blasted the message to her 1,200 Facebook followers, which included many current and former Gulliver students. Word of the post spread like wildfire back to school officials.

Within a few days, Gulliver Schools sent a letter to Snay's attorneys stating that Snay had broken a confidentiality agreement and that he would not be receiving the $80,000 settlement.


The agreement stated that neither Snay nor his wife could speak about the settlement to anyone except for his attorneys and other professional advisers.

Snay filed a motion to enforce the settlement and won in a Circuit Court ruling. The school appealed.

A hearing was held to determine if his daughter's knowledge of the settlement and her Facebook post had violated the confidentiality agreement.

"What happened is that after settlement, my wife and I went in the parking lot, and we had to make some decisions on what we were going to tell my daughter. Because it's very important to understand that she was an intricate part of what was happening.

"She was retaliated against at Gulliver. So she knew we were going to some sort of mediation. She was very concerned about it. Because of what happened at Gulliver, she had quite a few psychological scars which forced me to put her into therapy.

"So there was a period of time that there was an unresolved enclosure for my wife and me. It was very important with her. We understood the confidentiality. So we knew what the restrictions were, yet we needed to tell her something," Snay explained in court documents.

Last week, the Third District Court of Appeal for the State of Florida agreed that Snay had, in fact, violated confidentiality and reversed the Circuit Court ruling.

It wrote: "Snay violated the agreement by doing exactly what he had promised not to do. His daughter then did precisely what the confidentiality agreement was designed to prevent, advertising to the Gulliver community that Snay had been successful in his age discrimination and retaliation case against the school.

"Based on the clear and unambiguous language of the parties' agreement and Snay's testimony confirming his breach of its terms, we reverse the order entered below granting the Snays' motion to enforce the agreement."

Snay is now the headmaster at Riviera Preparatory School in Coral Gables, Florida.

lol
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Trump is the New Norma on March 05, 2014, 01:26:57 PM
I can't believe it's becoming more and more acceptable to run to social media whenever things don't go your way. She doesn't have a leg to stand on trying to be all apologetic and respectful about getting put in her place if the first thing she does is post a private e-mail for the internet to gawk at. Fucking shameful.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on March 05, 2014, 02:52:34 PM
I can't believe it's becoming more and more acceptable to run to social media whenever things don't go your way. She doesn't have a leg to stand on trying to be all apologetic and respectful about getting put in her place if the first thing she does is post a private e-mail for the internet to gawk at. Fucking shameful.
It's classic short-term thinking. Do whatever gets you attention/sympathy/outrage points now, ignoring the fact that you've publicly labeled yourself a pain-in-the-ass/malcontent/lawsuit waiting to happen. Forever.

20 years from now, when you're applying for a job, anyone who does a simple web search will find out and breathe a sigh of relief that they dodged a bullet by not hiring you. It blows my mind. Yeah, you've "won" the battle by exposing how "wronged" you were. But you've lost the war.

They don't realize that but it will be entertaining for us.  They are now under the belief that by "speaking out" to social media anytime they don't get their way, everyone is supposed to pave the way for them.  It will be interesting to track their lives by their outrage blog entries they make:

 :christina: Age 18: God, my parents won't pay for my tuition and living expenses for college.  I'm going to sue them.

 :christina: Age 24: I graduated with a dual Master's Degree in Women's Studies and 19th Century Native Architecture from East Buttfuck University and I can't find a job.  I'm going to sue the school for lying about their placement statistics.

 :christina: Age 27: I'm pissed my unemployment and food stamp benefits ran out.  I'm rooming with a pansexual genderqueer writer who is just barely scraping by with freelance writing gigs.  I blame the patriarchy.

 :christina: Age 32: I'm divorcing my husband, who I have a polyamorous marriage with.  He's a programmer and I work on my Tumblr page.  He once asked me to do the dishes.  I can't deal with this suffocating patriarchy.  I'm wanting alimony and his condo because I deserve it.

 :christina: Age 35: My psychiatrist refuses to up the dosage of my Ambien prescription.  She says that between all of my anti-depressants and anti-anxiety medications, it wouldn't be safe.  I called her a gatekeeping bigot, stormed out of the room, severed our relationship, and was literally shaking on the bus ride home.  On another note, my prick ex-husband and his new wife are expecting their second baby.  God I hate them.

 :christina: Age 41: I'm living with three other roommates.  Two of them are transqueer and one of them is gay but cis, unfortunately.  I want to get another cat but everyone is pissed that I can't take care of my existing cats.  They're tired of my room smelling like cat piss and shit.  I'm so tired of these fucking people.

 :christina: Age 47: Animal Control is so fucking bigoted.  They raided my apartment and confiscated all of my cats!

 :christina: Age 51: The adoption agency refused my application when I told them I was going to give my child hormone blockers if it decides to change its gender.  I still can't believe we live in this ancient, patriarchal society!
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Trump is the New Norma on March 05, 2014, 05:30:34 PM
I can't believe it's becoming more and more acceptable to run to social media whenever things don't go your way. She doesn't have a leg to stand on trying to be all apologetic and respectful about getting put in her place if the first thing she does is post a private e-mail for the internet to gawk at. Fucking shameful.
It's classic short-term thinking. Do whatever gets you attention/sympathy/outrage points now, ignoring the fact that you've publicly labeled yourself a pain-in-the-ass/malcontent/lawsuit waiting to happen. Forever.

20 years from now, when you're applying for a job, anyone who does a simple web search will find out and breathe a sigh of relief that they dodged a bullet by not hiring you. It blows my mind. Yeah, you've "won" the battle by exposing how "wronged" you were. But you've lost the war.

They don't realize that but it will be entertaining for us.  They are now under the belief that by "speaking out" to social media anytime they don't get their way, everyone is supposed to pave the way for them.  It will be interesting to track their lives by their outrage blog entries they make:

 :christina: Age 18: God, my parents won't pay for my tuition and living expenses for college.  I'm going to sue them.

 :christina: Age 24: I graduated with a dual Master's Degree in Women's Studies and 19th Century Native Architecture from East Buttfuck University and I can't find a job.  I'm going to sue the school for lying about their placement statistics.

 :christina: Age 27: I'm pissed my unemployment and food stamp benefits ran out.  I'm rooming with a pansexual genderqueer writer who is just barely scraping by with freelance writing gigs.  I blame the patriarchy.

 :christina: Age 32: I'm divorcing my husband, who I have a polyamorous marriage with.  He's a programmer and I work on my Tumblr page.  He once asked me to do the dishes.  I can't deal with this suffocating patriarchy.  I'm wanting alimony and his condo because I deserve it.

 :christina: Age 35: My psychiatrist refuses to up the dosage of my Ambien prescription.  She says that between all of my anti-depressants and anti-anxiety medications, it wouldn't be safe.  I called her a gatekeeping bigot, stormed out of the room, severed our relationship, and was literally shaking on the bus ride home.  On another note, my prick ex-husband and his new wife are expecting their second baby.  God I hate them.

 :christina: Age 41: I'm living with three other roommates.  Two of them are transqueer and one of them is gay but cis, unfortunately.  I want to get another cat but everyone is pissed that I can't take care of my existing cats.  They're tired of my room smelling like cat piss and shit.  I'm so tired of these fucking people.

 :christina: Age 47: Animal Control is so fucking bigoted.  They raided my apartment and confiscated all of my cats!

 :christina: Age 51: The adoption agency refused my application when I told them I was going to give my child hormone blockers if it decides to change its gender.  I still can't believe we live in this ancient, patriarchal society!
Yup.

The funniest thing is that the current trend of nonstop outrage is really a passing fad. At some point society will get sick of the bitching and complaining, move on, and it won't be "cool" to be a victim anymore. How it ever became cool is a mystery to me, considering the entirety of human history is built on success and power. Especially sad for the beta male types, no one respects a weeping, ineffectual, "sensitive" man.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on March 05, 2014, 05:57:47 PM
Being a victim is easier than reaping the rewards of hard work.  We (I mean "we" as in Gen Y) are too used to instant gratification to HTFU.  If portraying ourselves as victims gets us what we want, we're going to do it.  Furthermore, we're going to tear down anyone who did HTFU their way to a better life.  Millions of people legitimately feel that there is no class mobility anymore.  So why try when you can just give up and play DOTA all day?  Seems a lot easier than taking night classes while working a full time job.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Trump is the New Norma on March 05, 2014, 06:10:49 PM
Being a victim is easier than reaping the rewards of hard work.  We (I mean "we" as in Gen Y) are too used to instant gratification to HTFU.  If portraying ourselves as victims gets us what we want, we're going to do it.  Furthermore, we're going to tear down anyone who did HTFU their way to a better life.  Millions of people legitimately feel that there is no class mobility anymore.  So why try when you can just give up and play DOTA all day?  Seems a lot easier than taking night classes while working a full time job.
It's easier today. Instant gratification and all. They'll be in for a rude awakening a few years down the road when the harsh reality hits that no one cares about the plight of sad-sack middle-aged losers and obese spinster catladies.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on March 06, 2014, 09:21:45 AM
http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/rachel-canning.pdf

Here's the legal filing for that Rachel Canning girl. At the end of page 9 she throws in some vague reference of the dad wanting to molest her.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: BubbaCat on March 06, 2014, 11:01:21 AM
I don't really mind this attitude, it certainly helps keep the competition down for those of us who actually are successful.

This right here.  I am jealous of Gen CrY for one reason only... if I was their age right now and applied myself right now the same way I had to in the late 80's and early 90's just to make a foothold to start a below average lifestyle for my younger self, I could make CEO of a large med/tech/sci company before I turned 30.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: nerdball on March 06, 2014, 09:30:22 PM
So why did the kid who's suing her parents run off to her friend's house?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2574966/Spoiled-cheerleader-suing-parents-got-drunk-vodka-home-millionaire-attorney-paying-fees-threw-garbage-claim-mom-dad.html

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The millionaire attorney funding a ‘spoiled’ cheerleader’s lawsuit against her own parents let the teenager drink in his house, threw ‘alcoholic parties’ and apparently allowed her to have her first drop of booze, according to court documents.

When Rachel Canning was a 15-year-old freshman she got so drunk on vodka at Jon Inglesino’s home that she was sick all over the sidewalk and into a garbage can after her dad Sean picked her up for a basketball game.

And according to the Canning family, Inglesino’s wife Amy gave Rachel and her friends wine coolers in the back of a limo bound for New York on her daughter’s 15th birthday.

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On one excerpt Mr Canning, a former police chief from Lincoln Park, New Jersey, wrote: ‘The Inglesino household, according to Rachel in the past, is more lenient. She would often tell us how the Inglesino parents would allow alcoholic parties to be held at their house.

‘Rachel was angry because we would not host an alcoholic party. Rachel’s first time drinking alcohol was at the Inglesino house, in March of 2011 and on other occasions including their daughter’s 15th birthday where they have freely provided alcohol.

‘Rachel came home bragging saying that during the limo ride to NY, Mrs Inglesino gave all the girls wine coolers to drink. This type of behavior we did not condone.’


THOSE MONSTERS  :bieber:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danger-Weiner on March 06, 2014, 09:49:24 PM
being the lenient no-rules "cool" parent is one thing but what is this guy gaining from representing this girl? unless he fucked her and she's blackmailing him for services i don't understand any of this
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on March 06, 2014, 09:53:46 PM
being the lenient no-rules "cool" parent is one thing but what is this guy gaining from representing this girl? unless he fucked her and she's blackmailing him for services i don't understand any of this

 :jewrub:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on March 06, 2014, 09:56:19 PM
this reminds me of that episode of king of the hill where some cool casual parents have bobby over at their place and it all ends up with hank lecturing them
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danger-Weiner on March 06, 2014, 10:06:48 PM
being the lenient no-rules "cool" parent is one thing but what is this guy gaining from representing this girl? unless he fucked her and she's blackmailing him for services i don't understand any of this

 :jewrub:

he's not going to win this one there has to be an ulterior motive for doing it pro bono
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on March 06, 2014, 10:27:15 PM
There are plenty of lawyers that are media whores.  This shyster is probably hoping it will launch him into being another Gloria Allred or Mark Geragos, especially if he wins.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Internet Catchphrase on March 06, 2014, 11:52:10 PM
So why did the kid who's suing her parents run off to her friend's house?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2574966/Spoiled-cheerleader-suing-parents-got-drunk-vodka-home-millionaire-attorney-paying-fees-threw-garbage-claim-mom-dad.html

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The millionaire attorney funding a ‘spoiled’ cheerleader’s lawsuit against her own parents let the teenager drink in his house, threw ‘alcoholic parties’ and apparently allowed her to have her first drop of booze, according to court documents.

When Rachel Canning was a 15-year-old freshman she got so drunk on vodka at Jon Inglesino’s home that she was sick all over the sidewalk and into a garbage can after her dad Sean picked her up for a basketball game.

And according to the Canning family, Inglesino’s wife Amy gave Rachel and her friends wine coolers in the back of a limo bound for New York on her daughter’s 15th birthday.

Quote
On one excerpt Mr Canning, a former police chief from Lincoln Park, New Jersey, wrote: ‘The Inglesino household, according to Rachel in the past, is more lenient. She would often tell us how the Inglesino parents would allow alcoholic parties to be held at their house.

‘Rachel was angry because we would not host an alcoholic party. Rachel’s first time drinking alcohol was at the Inglesino house, in March of 2011 and on other occasions including their daughter’s 15th birthday where they have freely provided alcohol.

‘Rachel came home bragging saying that during the limo ride to NY, Mrs Inglesino gave all the girls wine coolers to drink. This type of behavior we did not condone.’


THOSE MONSTERS  :bieber:

That lawyer was fucking her at 15.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Doctor Jizzmopper on March 07, 2014, 12:14:35 AM
So why did the kid who's suing her parents run off to her friend's house?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2574966/Spoiled-cheerleader-suing-parents-got-drunk-vodka-home-millionaire-attorney-paying-fees-threw-garbage-claim-mom-dad.html

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The millionaire attorney funding a ‘spoiled’ cheerleader’s lawsuit against her own parents let the teenager drink in his house, threw ‘alcoholic parties’ and apparently allowed her to have her first drop of booze, according to court documents.

When Rachel Canning was a 15-year-old freshman she got so drunk on vodka at Jon Inglesino’s home that she was sick all over the sidewalk and into a garbage can after her dad Sean picked her up for a basketball game.

And according to the Canning family, Inglesino’s wife Amy gave Rachel and her friends wine coolers in the back of a limo bound for New York on her daughter’s 15th birthday.

Quote
On one excerpt Mr Canning, a former police chief from Lincoln Park, New Jersey, wrote: ‘The Inglesino household, according to Rachel in the past, is more lenient. She would often tell us how the Inglesino parents would allow alcoholic parties to be held at their house.

‘Rachel was angry because we would not host an alcoholic party. Rachel’s first time drinking alcohol was at the Inglesino house, in March of 2011 and on other occasions including their daughter’s 15th birthday where they have freely provided alcohol.

‘Rachel came home bragging saying that during the limo ride to NY, Mrs Inglesino gave all the girls wine coolers to drink. This type of behavior we did not condone.’


THOSE MONSTERS  :bieber:

That lawyer was fucking her at 15.

I wouldn't be surprised if that guy has pictures of her that would get him kicked off Reddit.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Internet Catchphrase on March 07, 2014, 12:28:49 AM
From my experience the parents who were cool were a lecherous pervert who "just happened" to have the hot tub turned on during a house party while his ball buster wife was sucking down the wine upstairs hoping desperately some teenage buck would help her relive her teens before life happened. I always had an uncomfortable feeling at my friends house who had "cool" parents, like they were swingers or something.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danger-Weiner on March 07, 2014, 12:45:44 AM
From my experience the parents who were cool were a lecherous pervert who "just happened" to have the hot tub turned on during a house party while his ball buster wife was sucking down the wine upstairs hoping desperately some teenage buck would help her relive her teens before life happened. I always had an uncomfortable feeling at my friends house who had "cool" parents, like they were swingers or something.

all you had to do was go upstairs
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Internet Catchphrase on March 07, 2014, 12:49:00 AM
From my experience the parents who were cool were a lecherous pervert who "just happened" to have the hot tub turned on during a house party while his ball buster wife was sucking down the wine upstairs hoping desperately some teenage buck would help her relive her teens before life happened. I always had an uncomfortable feeling at my friends house who had "cool" parents, like they were swingers or something.

all you had to do was go upstairs

It was Malbec btw
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on March 07, 2014, 11:53:33 AM
It really shows a lack of critical thinking on the daughters part if she thought a police chief would even consider throwing an underage drinking party for her and her friends unless he wanted to kiss his career and pension goodbye.

15 year olds are dumb and all but should be aware enough to realize that there are other factors than just her father not wanting her to (even though that's fine as well).
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Slacktivist on March 07, 2014, 03:09:00 PM
Pictures For Sad Children Webcomic Artist John Campbell Throws Kickstarter Hissy-Fit (http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20140305/wicker-park/kickstarter-fail-artist-raises-51k-publish-books-burns-them-alley)

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WICKER PARK — A 30-year-old webcomics artist who raised more than $50,000 on Kickstarter has burned the books his donors paid for because, he says, he ran out of money to ship them.

In late February, John Campbell, who lives in Wicker Park, told his fans on the online crowdsourcing platform that "It's Over" and published a video of himself burning 127 copies of his book, "Sad Pictures for Children."

The book-burning coincided with Campbell's decision to remove 10 years of comics from his website, picturesforsadchildren.com, which is now a blank page.

"After a decade of putting personal work on the Internet in public for free and realizing I didn't have what I felt what I needed, my online persona committed suicide," Campbell said in an interview on Tuesday.

Campbell burned the books in response to more than 100 emails he received from backers wanting the books they had helped fund almost two years ago.

In May 2012, Campbell used Kickstarter to raise money to publish a book based on his online comic strip, "Pictures for Sad Children," which features two main characters who work in unfulfilling office jobs, "a ghost named Paul and a fella named Gary."

"I didn't expect it to be that successful," Campbell said of the campaign, which raised $51,615 from 1,073 backers in 14 days, exceeding his goal of $8,000 by 645 percent.

Before the campaign, Campbell said the most money he had made producing comics was $30,000 over the course of a year.

Money, to him, is "a huge terrible joke," he said.

Campbell said Kickstarter "gives you an old-school charitable feeling but there is no value created outside of the perceived value."


Campbell said he spent $30,000 of the Kickstarter money to print 2,000 copies of the 200-page hardback book and then spent more money to include a dead wasp inside of each book. Encased in plastic, the wasps were inserted into the inside back cover.

Campbell also said the "IRS watches Kickstarter" and took between $3,000 and $5,000 in back taxes from the donations.

Campbell said he successfully mailed 750 to 800 books, while another 150 were undeliverable and returned to him due to old addresses. He plans to burn the rest of the books that have been sitting in his apartment in boxes for over a year.

Two weeks ago, the stress of not being able to afford to mail the books prompted Campbell to burn 127 books behind a dumpster in an alley behind his apartment.

Campbell said burning the books was "like a weight lifted off of me."


One comic industry website has declared his campaign a "Kickstarter Fail."

Reactions from people who gave money to Campbell ranged from frustration to sympathy.

A backer named Jenny wrote on Campbell's Kickstarter page: "Well, I certainly feel like a chump now." Another donor, Jacob Weiss, has started a "Sad Pictures for Children" Book Club, where members can share a copy of the book received after giving a $35 donation to Campbell.

Weiss, an audio engineer based in Austin, Texas, has been a reader of Campbell's comics for six years.

"What I love about John's work is that it has always been much more to me than a dumb webcomic, which is what so many tend to be. It is not about cat jokes or pseudo-philosophical ideas. It is just really honest about anxieties, fears and bad feelings," Weiss said.

While some readers were disappointed in Campbell's failure to deliver on his promises, others were concerned about his mental health based on a rambling 4,500-word update that accompanies the video showing him burning the books.

Campbell said has refunded some money but he can't fund additional refunds to what he estimates to be 25 percent of his backers.

According to Kickstarter's terms, it is the project creator's responsibility to complete a project. While Kickstarter does not "guarantee projects or investigate a creator's ability to complete their project," it also requires creators to fulfill the promised rewards or refund any backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill.

A spokesman for Kickstarter declined to comment.

Campbell said that for those still wanting a book, he could sell more of his personal belongings to help pay for shipping. Or he could ask people for money for shipping, an option which he says he "refuses to do."

Though most of his readers are from out of state or the country, Campbell said he believes there are backers in the Chicago area that gave him $75 two years ago and have not received their copies of "Sad Pictures for Children."

When asked by a reporter if he would be willing to have the donors pick up the books, since he cannot afford to ship them, Campbell said he would "consider it" but the plan is to still burn the remaining books and produce another video.

This is it. This is the Avatar of Gen Y.

-obvious mental health issues
-Given much more than he asked for or deserved
-Fucks up a simple task
-Feels crushing overwhelming guilt over simple responsibility and honesty issues
-Set of personal hypocritical morals backs him into a corner. I can't ask people for more money because money is pointless except I need money to do things also I owed taxes to the IRS hahahaha
-owed thousands in back taxes
-upset that actions have consequences
-Made sure to waste money on shit like putting plastic-sealed dead wasps in each book edgy as hell!
-FREAKS THE FUCK OUT after 2 years of letting this simple problem eat him alive
-Feels immense relief from fulfilling his natural urge to be a bitch and give up and avoid that mean old responsibility
-IMMEDIATELY SEEKS ATTENTION FOR IT
-Could actually be a dependable, honest man and hand-deliver or phone up the people who could come to his house and pick up the books for him, the books they paid for
-Decides that he wants more attention and probably won't do it

HOLY SHIT.

the latest kickstarter update (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/73258510/sad-pictures-for-children/posts) is the sort of thing you'd expect from a homeless drug addict
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Slacktivist on March 07, 2014, 03:12:07 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/LewydMs.jpg)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: The Watcher on March 07, 2014, 10:01:38 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/iY3ap6i.jpg)
What a shame, some of what this guy made is good and on point. But it is all very cynical and it's a shame he is fucking crazy or a con artist.


Eh Fuck'em
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: DangerClose on March 08, 2014, 02:55:28 PM
Oh yeah, remember that old axiom that everyone becomes more conservative as they get older?

Wrong: Millennials get more liberal as they age.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/03/07/millennials-in-adulthood/

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Not only do half of all Millennials choose not to identify with either political party, just 31% say there is a great deal of difference between the Republican and Democratic parties. More people in older generations, including 58% of Silents, say there are big differences between the parties.

Even so, this generation stood out in the past two presidential elections as strikingly Democratic. According to national exit polls, the young-old partisan voting gaps in 2008 and 2012 were among the largest in the modern era, with Millennials far more supportive than older generations of Barack Obama. As Obama’s approval ratings have declined in recent years, however, Millennials have joined older adults in lowering their assessments of the president.

Yet Millennials continue to view the Democratic Party more favorably than the Republican Party. And Millennials today are still the only generation in which liberals are not significantly outnumbered by conservatives.

So yeah "They're all the same!!!" *votes democratic*  :tuss:

Guess it beats them all becoming libertarians. Just barely.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Internet Catchphrase on March 08, 2014, 03:01:24 PM
Its a little early to say all millenials are getting more liberal as they age as most of them haven't been independent long enough to learn anything about the real world. Isn't the oldest of the millenials just turning 24 this year?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danger-Weiner on March 08, 2014, 03:04:58 PM
millenials begin around 81-83
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on March 08, 2014, 03:05:33 PM
34 I think is the absolute top end.

I always assumed the more conservative thing kicked around 40+ though.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on March 08, 2014, 03:14:56 PM
More conservative only kicks in when you have assets to your name and you're making more than a standard barista.  Most millenials will never get above that level so they will always be on the government dime.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Doctor Jizzmopper on March 08, 2014, 03:52:22 PM
More conservative only kicks in when you have assets to your name and you're making more than a standard barista.  Most millenials will never get above that level so they will always be on the government dime.

Was gonna say about this. Gen CrYers are still living with their parents.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on March 08, 2014, 07:58:44 PM
Reminder that Gen Y is old enough to breed and there is now a stupider, dumber Gen Z waiting in the wings.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Danger-Weiner on March 08, 2014, 08:01:51 PM
Reminder that Gen Y is old enough to breed and there is now a stupider, dumber Gen Z waiting in the wings.

whatever post-genY is it already exists but they're still children, i think the first of their lot is starting or already in high school
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on March 08, 2014, 08:13:57 PM
Generation Z is the first generation where people are raised by tablets and smartphones.  I'm not sure if they're going to be the most pozzed out but they will be driven by instant gratification and an intolerance for any opinions other than their own since they're used to going to their favorite hugbox sites for news and views.  There's a lot of shitty pozzed media articles being written about how great it is that kids (Gen Z) are always on tablets or smartphones.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Slacktivist on March 08, 2014, 08:53:43 PM
I hear anecdotes every so often about how kids in high school are insanely disrespectful and shitty, even for old people griping about youth. I always have to double take and remember that I'm older than 20 when I read stories about teachers mixing with social media and getting burned or openly trannie teens in high schools.

Wonder if we'll see the Japanese hikkimori thing over here. I don't mean the usual nerds, I mean straight up 25% of the population doesn't understand how to leave the house stuff. American culture is a bit better at parents demanding independence but that's already started to bend with Gen crY.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: bigperm on March 09, 2014, 12:32:51 AM
Oh yeah, remember that old axiom that everyone becomes more conservative as they get older?

Wrong: Millennials get more liberal as they age.

So yeah "They're all the same!!!" *votes democratic*  :tuss:

Guess it beats them all becoming libertarians. Just barely.

The biggest reason why Millennials vote for Democrats is because there's more minorities. The whites aren't that much more liberal different from Gen X or Boomer whites when it comes to voting. And they mainly vote for Dems because of bullshit like gay rights or legal weed maaan.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Doctor Jizzmopper on March 09, 2014, 04:30:29 AM
Wonder if we'll see the Japanese hikkimori thing over here. I don't mean the usual nerds, I mean straight up 25% of the population doesn't understand how to leave the house stuff. American culture is a bit better at parents demanding independence but that's already started to bend with Gen crY.

I watched Welcome to the N.H.K. and it completely surprised me, even though it was there right in front of them, that the Japanese have figured out how to fix hikkimoris.

Stop feeding them, stop taking care of them.

They'll starve to death or work.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: cis scum 1.0 on March 11, 2014, 05:40:07 PM
Kevin Bacon to Millenials: You don't know shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09q04Dlh7r8
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: nerdball on March 12, 2014, 03:27:44 PM
http://www.nj.com/morris/index.ssf/2014/03/nj_teen_who_sued_parents_is_going_home.html

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Rachel Canning, the Morris County teenager who sued her parents to force them to pay her bills, has returned to her parents’ house in Lincoln Park, her parents’ attorney announced today.

Rachel, 18, “has returned home and reunited with her parents and siblings. Her return home is not contingent on any financial and/or other considerations,” her parents' attorney Angelo Sarno, said in a statement.

In a just world, the kid would get the beating of her life at this point.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on March 12, 2014, 05:43:58 PM
http://elitedaily.com/life/culture/why-i-dont-want-my-kids-to-grow-up-in-america/

 :tuss:

This site bills itself as the "Voice of Generation Y"

A little bit about the author:

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Lauren “LMoney” Martin grew up with one goal: to be the first woman engineer. Upon finding out there were women engineers already, she chose to study advertising at Penn State University, which led to an attempt at acting and ended in a career as a comedy writer.

What she describes is a society that doesn't exist anywhere.  A system where there is a lot of wealth but no responsibility.  She starts off by comparing her ideal world to a cartoon on Nickelodeon.  I'm sure she will pump out a kid or two in a gated community somewhere when she marries an IBanker or a lawyer.  Yes, I too want a society where I have money falling out of my ass without working many hours, not have to worry about crime, and where I can do whatever I want without the man getting in the way.  I would also like high speed space travel and a diamond encrusted smart watch that allows me to travel through time as well.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hashtag Activist on March 12, 2014, 10:13:00 PM
http://elitedaily.com/life/culture/why-i-dont-want-my-kids-to-grow-up-in-america/

 :tuss:

This site bills itself as the "Voice of Generation Y"

A little bit about the author:

Quote
Lauren “LMoney” Martin grew up with one goal: to be the first woman engineer. Upon finding out there were women engineers already, she chose to study advertising at Penn State University, which led to an attempt at acting and ended in a career as a comedy writer.

What she describes is a society that doesn't exist anywhere.  A system where there is a lot of wealth but no responsibility.  She starts off by comparing her ideal world to a cartoon on Nickelodeon.  I'm sure she will pump out a kid or two in a gated community somewhere when she marries an IBanker or a lawyer.  Yes, I too want a society where I have money falling out of my ass without working many hours, not have to worry about crime, and where I can do whatever I want without the man getting in the way.  I would also like high speed space travel and a diamond encrusted smart watch that allows me to travel through time as well.

My favorite line

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I want them to live somewhere where people with talent are praised and the talentless forgotten and ignored

 :reagan:  :nixon:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: food desert on March 13, 2014, 10:30:58 AM

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I want them to live somewhere where people with talent are praised and the talentless forgotten and ignored

 :reagan:  :nixon:

She doesn't realize she's already there!
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Agent of Aspieonage on March 13, 2014, 12:51:37 PM
Looks like the patron saint of gen crY took them for a ride

http://www.thesuperficial.com/lady-gaga-born-this-way-5000-2-million-dollars-donations-03-2014

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The foundation, which lists Gaga’s lovely mom, Cynthia Germanotta, as president, had a lot of expenses in 2012 that had nothing to do with helping anyone. They spent $300,000 on “Strategic Consulting (web, digital),” $62,836 on “Stage Productions (Harvard, LA, UN),” $50,000 on “Social Media,” and another almost $50,000 on “Event Coordination.”
What?
Born this Way also spent: $808,661 on “other”; $406,552 on “Legal”; $150,000 on “Philanthropic Consulting”; $60,000 on “research”; 58,768 on “Publicity fees”; $78,000 on “travel”. They spent $72,000 on salaries– presumably for running the Born this Way bus, although that episode had its own expense line.
Under ‘grants to organizations or individuals”: $5000. Five thousand dollars.

They took in $2 mil and only 5 grand made it to actual charitable causes.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Internet Catchphrase on March 13, 2014, 12:58:24 PM
Quote
As first reported by Showbiz411.com, the Born This Way Foundation's 2012 form 990, which names Stefani Germanotta (a.k.a Lady Gaga) as its director, her mother Cynthia as its president and her father Joseph as its treasurer, claimed total revenue of $2.66 million, $1.85 million of which went to operational expenses.

So where did the money go? The 501(c)(3) organization spent $406,552 on legal expenses, $348,000 on event production, $150,000 on philanthropic consulting and $77,923 on travel.

legal expenses = Record company skim
Event production = Gaga's personal cut
Philanthropic consulting = Mom and dad's cut
travel = Record promotion and lifestyle.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 40k Scrotal Sacks on March 13, 2014, 12:59:45 PM
They're Italians, what did you expect?

e: You could almost say they were "born this way" (corrupt). BOOM.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on March 13, 2014, 09:49:19 PM
As much as I hate Gawker, they nailed it with this article:

http://gawker.com/twitter-is-public-1543016594

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on March 13, 2014, 09:56:54 PM
As much as I hate Gawker, they nailed it with this article:

http://gawker.com/twitter-is-public-1543016594

Nice article, but check out the first comment:

Quote
This whole mansplaining gig ain't a good look for you bro. Stick to half-formed rantings about political economy.

 :facepalm:

So... I guess it is misogyny somehow?

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dental Grade Dildo on March 14, 2014, 12:15:03 PM
As much as I hate Gawker, they nailed it with this article:

http://gawker.com/twitter-is-public-1543016594



(http://i.imgur.com/XKkgmJQ.jpg)



LOL




(It's the background image of one of the linked twitters.)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mullah Omar on March 15, 2014, 03:05:16 PM
Quote
If you would like to communicate with a large group of people privately, you can send an email that goes to those people, but that is not published to the public, on the internet.
Unless some faggot gets offended and pastes it to a forum to act offended and ~progressive~

As much as I hate Gawker, they nailed it with this article:

http://gawker.com/twitter-is-public-1543016594

Nice article, but check out the first comment:

Quote
This whole mansplaining gig ain't a good look for you bro. Stick to half-formed rantings about political economy.

 :facepalm:

So... I guess it is misogyny somehow?
The best thing is that idiot has a Hezbollah avatar. I wonder how they feel about Shia Islamist social values? :rolleyes:

Like, Hezbollah is actually ok on the women's rights front but no way in hell will the Shia tolerate the hedonistic and degenerate attitudes of our current batch Western feminists.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Launchpad McQuack on March 16, 2014, 11:12:07 PM
Looks like the patron saint of gen crY took them for a ride

http://www.thesuperficial.com/lady-gaga-born-this-way-5000-2-million-dollars-donations-03-2014

They took in $2 mil and only 5 grand made it to actual charitable causes.

Someone broke down athlete charities a year ago and found the same thing. Basketball players setting up charities to help "urban youths" and it ends up 95% of the money goes to friends and family. There was one that took in like $2 million and all that was paid out to actual kids was a few grand for some jerseys and equipment. The Mother was making like $400k running it and everyone else on the staff was friends and family.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dr. Hatchet-Wound on March 17, 2014, 12:05:10 AM
Lady gaga had a chick purposely puke all over her on stage.
http://www.tmz.com/2014/03/14/lady-gaga-vomit-sxsw-video/
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Agent of Aspieonage on March 18, 2014, 12:25:42 PM
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/living/2014/03/13/mxp-what-happened-to-obama-girl.hln.html

Girl gets her 15 minutes of fame in 2007 as "Obama girl" dancing around looking slutty and singing badly about Obama. Moves out to LA to be a modeldancersingeractresswaitress, finds out you can throw a rock in LA and hit 5 hotter girls doing the same thing, 7 years with no nibbles, goes crying to the MSM abloo abloo abloo why aren't I famous dammit I'm obammeygirl.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on March 18, 2014, 01:31:26 PM
Did better than that one girl who was shot like 2 weeks later.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on March 18, 2014, 08:06:24 PM
That was the era where anyone who got more than a million hits on Youtube was considered the new superstars of our time because a million hits on a youtube was apparently considered equal to a million asses in seats for a movie or for a TV show.  The media is a little bit smarter about this now but not by much.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Strategically placed watermelon on March 18, 2014, 08:35:27 PM
That was the era where anyone who got more than a million hits on Youtube was considered the new superstars of our time because a million hits on a youtube was apparently considered equal to a million asses in seats for a movie or for a TV show.  The media is a little bit smarter about this now but not by much.

Exactly that, 2007-2008 was the brave new era of discovery as far as Youtube went, a million views was a big deal. Now you have manchildren on the internet with 2-3 million subscribers because they play minecraft and scream over it getting hundreds of thousands of views per video.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on March 18, 2014, 08:50:37 PM
Also if your youtube preview pic (or whatever it's called) has a "hot looking chick with boobz" then your youtube will most likely get an extra +100k hits a year no problem.  It doesn't fucking matter what the video is of either. 

Shit, I've seen the most boring, no purpose, 30 second long videos on there with 5 million hits before just because "possible boobz"
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on March 22, 2014, 12:48:52 AM
Here's an article: http://rall.com/2014/03/21/syndicated-column-the-unpersonning-of-generation-x

This ties in with the OP's point about Generation X being forgotten.  I'm not Generation X, I'm a Gen Y faggot but it does seem like an entire generation of people has been left ignored.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: angryoldman on March 22, 2014, 12:58:54 AM
Here's an article: http://rall.com/2014/03/21/syndicated-column-the-unpersonning-of-generation-x

This ties in with the OP's point about Generation X being forgotten.  I'm not Generation X, I'm a Gen Y faggot but it does seem like an entire generation of people has been left ignored.

Ugh, I hate agreeing with anything Ted Rall says.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Launchpad McQuack on March 22, 2014, 01:37:11 AM
It's a shame she didn't turn to porn.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: geordash on March 22, 2014, 02:00:06 AM
http://www.avclub.com/article/distressed-dad-seeks-pokemon-related-guidance-202349

I'm just gonna leave this here. Be sure to check out the excellent advice from the sex doctor.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: As a white male I on March 22, 2014, 03:49:09 AM
Here's an article: http://rall.com/2014/03/21/syndicated-column-the-unpersonning-of-generation-x

This ties in with the OP's point about Generation X being forgotten.  I'm not Generation X, I'm a Gen Y faggot but it does seem like an entire generation of people has been left ignored.

Ugh, I hate agreeing with anything Ted Rall says.

Ted Rall's comics are pretty terrible but I can't help but to like him simply because he makes D&D goons froth in rage.

Funny thing about the period of time mentioned in the column for Gen X, I'm born in the 80's, but I'm definitely more Gen X than Gen Y when it comes to cultural eras. Every cultural movement prior to internet showed up in (countryside) Finland about a decade later than everywhere else, so kids like me who lived their teenage years during late 90's/early 2000's lived through the Gen X youth culture, listening to Nirvana and NWA like it's the hottest, newest shit and punching it out with rival "gangs" in our backyards while yelling out lines from Blood in, Blood out.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on March 22, 2014, 04:48:35 AM
Here's an article: http://rall.com/2014/03/21/syndicated-column-the-unpersonning-of-generation-x

This ties in with the OP's point about Generation X being forgotten.  I'm not Generation X, I'm a Gen Y faggot but it does seem like an entire generation of people has been left ignored.

Yeah, that's pretty spot on IMO.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on March 22, 2014, 11:12:38 AM
Generation X is mentioned all the time. The article itself said they were trying to a woo a new generation, which is definitely not generation X. For the financial  article he mentions, it's about a change in financial outlooks, when generation x and baby boomers are much mores similar. It's that generation X is stuck in the middle, one who has a long future that will shape the future of the country, and another that has massive wealth (and debt) that will shape the future.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: PUSSY CANCER on March 22, 2014, 01:10:42 PM
Looks like the patron saint of gen crY took them for a ride

http://www.thesuperficial.com/lady-gaga-born-this-way-5000-2-million-dollars-donations-03-2014

Quote
The foundation, which lists Gaga’s lovely mom, Cynthia Germanotta, as president, had a lot of expenses in 2012 that had nothing to do with helping anyone. They spent $300,000 on “Strategic Consulting (web, digital),” $62,836 on “Stage Productions (Harvard, LA, UN),” $50,000 on “Social Media,” and another almost $50,000 on “Event Coordination.”
What?
Born this Way also spent: $808,661 on “other”; $406,552 on “Legal”; $150,000 on “Philanthropic Consulting”; $60,000 on “research”; 58,768 on “Publicity fees”; $78,000 on “travel”. They spent $72,000 on salaries– presumably for running the Born this Way bus, although that episode had its own expense line.
Under ‘grants to organizations or individuals”: $5000. Five thousand dollars.

They took in $2 mil and only 5 grand made it to actual charitable causes.

This is why I refuse to donate to any charity without researching them first.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OMNIPRESENT CYBERFILTH on March 22, 2014, 01:55:08 PM
Generation X is mentioned all the time. The article itself said they were trying to a woo a new generation, which is definitely not generation X. For the financial  article he mentions, it's about a change in financial outlooks, when generation x and baby boomers are much mores similar. It's that generation X is stuck in the middle, one who has a long future that will shape the future of the country, and another that has massive wealth (and debt) that will shape the future.

Also there's not as much demand for them as Gen X isn't as much for self accolades as the Boomers and the Millennials seem to be (unlike attention whoring faggots like Ted Rall I mean).  The thing about Gen X is we grew up in the early 80's.  The figures Boomer faggots in Hollywood put on TV like Alex Keaton, Archie Bunker and Ahnold to make fun of conservatives and yuppies ended up being the unspoken authority figures we looked up to. 
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on March 22, 2014, 09:20:44 PM
True story, I always thought Alex Keaton was pretty cool and his dad was a milquetoast dork.
 :nixon:

I've said before Gen X is an in between generation that doesn't get a lot of press...I mean we did 20 years ago, but then the news cycle moved to millenials who are even more of a "story." In the past I compared Gen X to be like Peggy and Pete on Mad Men--not quite Greatest Generation, not quite Boomers. Like you knew watching the show that as much as those young turks were gonna change things and take over shit that as soon as the hippies and Youth Culture came to the fore they'd be swept aside. But that doesn't mean they would be passed over for power when their time came.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OMNIPRESENT CYBERFILTH on March 23, 2014, 10:03:16 AM
The best summary I've read about the difference between Boomers and Gen X:

Quote
I wrote an essay years ago in which I posited that the besetting sin of the Boomers was self-centeredness while that of the Gen X'ers was self-indulgence. The key difference is that while reality will intrude on self-indulgence (too much candy will indeed make you sick, in one of the more obvious applications), reality can always be bent around one's self-centeredness.

It's a great point.  I have a couple of much older brothers that are Boomers, as well as an old boss I still keep in touch with.  All of them are conservative, hard workers, Mom and apple pie types and I respect the hell out of them but none of them understand how to seriously self reflect at all.  The only way they can relate to the world is how it ends up affecting them.  I think people in general have trouble with this, but the Boomers and Millennials are particularly lost in seeing the big picture - i.e. how things operate devoid of reference to the ideas they personally hold.

Interestingly, the only time this attitude is a benefit is during war, when reason and communications have already broken down.  And when the Boomers got into power, what did we get?  12 years of wars.  I don't think it's a coincidence.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on March 28, 2014, 12:28:07 PM
A feelgood youtube  :allears:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puc9Q1SMIo4

(http://p.twimg.com/AwLuX_cCIAIdRnI.jpg:large)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mullah Omar on March 28, 2014, 05:28:40 PM
http://reddblog.com/2014/03/theres-times-totally-lazy-good-oblomov-ivan-goncharov-proves/

generation_y.txt
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Internet Catchphrase on March 28, 2014, 05:47:13 PM
A decadent degenerate writing a defense of a decadent degenerate.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Slacktivist on March 28, 2014, 08:17:19 PM
Quote
Oblomov isn’t lazy, he’s just trying to get back to a purer state of being. Action and doing things quickly is overrated. Oblomov simply is. He’s like The Dude from The Big Lebowski.

An unemployed man who has a place to sleep and food to eat by virtue of being fictional?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on March 28, 2014, 08:38:44 PM
http://reddblog.com/2014/03/theres-times-totally-lazy-good-oblomov-ivan-goncharov-proves/

generation_y.txt

(http://i.imgur.com/n4kJ2Qf.png)
 :drew:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Tranny Feet on March 28, 2014, 09:16:00 PM
Well, I'm giving Carrie a pass.

Also, that old dude beach video is the best thing I've seen all week.







Shitty low effort post, I know. So here's a video of a drunk Irish guy trying to get up a hill. So here's some Gen Yrs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4QBRgyitFs

Yeah.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on March 28, 2014, 10:16:25 PM
If you want to be lazy, be lazy.  I fully understand if not everyone wants to work shitloads of hours to try to get ahead.  I just find it annoying when they do the "hey, you're the one with the problem, man" and expect me to subsidize their lifestyle, which includes making sure they have enough money to the latest iPhone with an unlimited data plan.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on March 29, 2014, 05:34:51 AM
If you want to be lazy, be lazy.  I fully understand if not everyone wants to work shitloads of hours to try to get ahead.  I just find it annoying when they do the "hey, you're the one with the problem, man" and expect me to subsidize their lifestyle, which includes making sure they have enough money to the latest iPhone with an unlimited data plan.


P.much same.  I'm perfectly fine with someone being lazy and barely working at some low-impact do nothing job... but they'll have to be happy with the rest of the lifestyle that goes with it, i.e. shitty car, shitty neighborhood etc.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Fade to Vanilla on March 29, 2014, 06:14:37 AM
A feelgood youtube  :allears:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puc9Q1SMIo4



(http://somethingsensitive.com/awards/66-mini.gif)

nice glass jaw there, faggot
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: As a white male I on March 30, 2014, 03:43:59 AM
This belongs here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSSDeesUUsU
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dental Grade Dildo on March 30, 2014, 06:23:57 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/n4kJ2Qf.png)
I would will actually watch her facialabuse.com debut.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: LITERALLY A RAPIST on April 02, 2014, 01:01:44 PM
didn't want to derail another thread with this 2 cents on gen y-

I'm inclined to say virtual reality won't be a gamechanger but augmented reality might be... but that's just being a pedant.

goons already lose themselves in wow and other mmo experiences

now imagine an even more immersive experience ten years from now when graphics are even closer to recreating reality and goons can wear googles that make them lord strongington and fall deeper into their withdrawal from reality. not to mention the porn. porn is already messing with this generation's views on sex and sexual expectations. the next VR system is going to be heavily used by the porn industry to create the ultimate sex simular that you're raw-dawgin' caramel shanelle or whoever the pornstar of the week is. this generation is shoving itself farther and farther away from human contact and interaction.

why go to college when you can do e-learning from your bedroom. forget going to a book club now you can discuss your favorite fantasy novel on the safety of the internet. how often do mid-20 somethings take classes at the YMCA on small hobby things or interact in social clubs and communities like church, the Rotary Club, Stone masons, etc. They don't. Instead they head home and watch human interaction from the couch while discussing how problematic it is on a blog piece where they can carefully craft a response.

one thing i noticed about gen y is how quickly they crumble when they're having a face to face confrontation over something. they'll be firm and tough in email or behind texts, but when push comes to shove they'll stare meekly at their feet and murmur quietly if not freeze up entirely. i've noticed that the ones who try to play up and act tough shut down even faster when you push back against them because they're just utterly shocked that being snarky and confrontational doesn't intimidate everyone.

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on April 02, 2014, 05:09:16 PM
My theory is that VR will get good enough to have virtual sex that is close enough to the real thing in 10-15 years.  At that point, there will be a second sexual revolution where dudes no longer even care about hooking up with women because with of virtual reality.  There is already a lot of people bitching about men don't pursue women as much as they used to because porn is so easy to get, it will be a wasteland here soon enough.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Babomb on April 02, 2014, 05:27:41 PM
If you want to be lazy, be lazy.  I fully understand if not everyone wants to work shitloads of hours to try to get ahead.  I just find it annoying when they do the "hey, you're the one with the problem, man" and expect me to subsidize their lifestyle, which includes making sure they have enough money to the latest iPhone with an unlimited data plan.
Fully agree.  In that "everyone should get a cash stipend every month just for living" thread every single goon wanted free cash given to them each month, enough to cover rent, food, internet, car payments, insurance payments, and enough spending money so they wouldn't be "bored".  All for free, with no stipulation that they work to get these benefits. 

I'm fine with someone deciding to take care of a lazy goon and pay all their shit.  Its their money and if they want to spend it on supporting someone elses lazy ass lifestyle, so be it.  I'm not fine with a government mandate telling me I have to pay to support someone else's lazy ass lifestyle when they are just as capable as I am of working and providing for themself.  I'm fine with helping people out getting food and a place to live, I am not ok with paying for some fuck's Steam account and games because they just can't afford all those games off their disability check.

didn't want to derail another thread with this 2 cents on gen y-

I'm inclined to say virtual reality won't be a gamechanger but augmented reality might be... but that's just being a pedant.

goons already lose themselves in wow and other mmo experiences

now imagine an even more immersive experience ten years from now when graphics are even closer to recreating reality and goons can wear googles that make them lord strongington and fall deeper into their withdrawal from reality. not to mention the porn. porn is already messing with this generation's views on sex and sexual expectations. the next VR system is going to be heavily used by the porn industry to create the ultimate sex simular that you're raw-dawgin' caramel shanelle or whoever the pornstar of the week is. this generation is shoving itself farther and farther away from human contact and interaction.

why go to college when you can do e-learning from your bedroom. forget going to a book club now you can discuss your favorite fantasy novel on the safety of the internet. how often do mid-20 somethings take classes at the YMCA on small hobby things or interact in social clubs and communities like church, the Rotary Club, Stone masons, etc. They don't. Instead they head home and watch human interaction from the couch while discussing how problematic it is on a blog piece where they can carefully craft a response.

one thing i noticed about gen y is how quickly they crumble when they're having a face to face confrontation over something. they'll be firm and tough in email or behind texts, but when push comes to shove they'll stare meekly at their feet and murmur quietly if not freeze up entirely. i've noticed that the ones who try to play up and act tough shut down even faster when you push back against them because they're just utterly shocked that being snarky and confrontational doesn't intimidate everyone.
I find most of the ones who have a lot of say and are very pationate about something online are very meak and quiet in real life.  They are assertive online because of the "fuckwad theory" of the internet.  The second these social rejects have to actually encounter someone in real life they suddenly don't have much to say, aren't emboldened to insult people with the "wrong" opinions, and they have no power to silence the opposing viewpoint via moderator action.

The goon hugbox is doing  these rejects a disservice by isolating them from alternate viewpoints so they don't know how to handle an actual debate or even a discussion with someone who has "wrong" opinions.  They think its all a 0 sum game.  "You don't support giving all your money to support my lifestyle so I can sit at home all day every day and play Steam games?  You want a return of the Victorian era sweatshops then and must hate people!". 

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on April 02, 2014, 07:00:17 PM
My theory is that VR will get good enough to have virtual sex that is close enough to the real thing in 10-15 years.  At that point, there will be a second sexual revolution where dudes no longer even care about hooking up with women because with of virtual reality.  There is already a lot of people bitching about men don't pursue women as much as they used to because porn is so easy to get, it will be a wasteland here soon enough.

This is going to happen and the fallout will be glorious.  Once it does, most men will have very little reason to pursue relationships or women for sex. 

Just imagining the :goonette: meltdowns and shit will be hilarious.  After complaining about men for years, they will meltdown in the opposite way.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Babomb on April 02, 2014, 07:50:18 PM
My theory is that VR will get good enough to have virtual sex that is close enough to the real thing in 10-15 years.  At that point, there will be a second sexual revolution where dudes no longer even care about hooking up with women because with of virtual reality.  There is already a lot of people bitching about men don't pursue women as much as they used to because porn is so easy to get, it will be a wasteland here soon enough.

This is going to happen and the fallout will be glorious.  Once it does, most men will have very little reason to pursue relationships or women for sex. 

Just imagining the :goonette: meltdowns and shit will be hilarious.  After complaining about men for years, they will meltdown in the opposite way.
Yes, it will be hilarious to see the arguments of feminism changing from "all cis males must die for even thinking about objectifying women" to "why won't men look at real women anymore".

They are going to get exactly what they wanted and yet they will still find a reason to bitch.  That is Gen Y for ya.  Never happy.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on April 02, 2014, 08:42:18 PM
My theory is that VR will get good enough to have virtual sex that is close enough to the real thing in 10-15 years.  At that point, there will be a second sexual revolution where dudes no longer even care about hooking up with women because with of virtual reality.  There is already a lot of people bitching about men don't pursue women as much as they used to because porn is so easy to get, it will be a wasteland here soon enough.

This is going to happen and the fallout will be glorious.  Once it does, most men will have very little reason to pursue relationships or women for sex. 

Just imagining the :goonette: meltdowns and shit will be hilarious.  After complaining about men for years, they will meltdown in the opposite way.
Yes, it will be hilarious to see the arguments of feminism changing from "all cis males must die for even thinking about objectifying women" to "why won't men look at real women anymore".

They are going to get exactly what they wanted and yet they will still find a reason to bitch.  That is Gen Y for ya.  Never happy.

And even then, they still won't get it.  They will still think it will somehow be up to men to fix the problem that of course lies soley with men. 

The scarier thing about this kind of situation and it's something that feminists will never consider because BIOTRUTHS is that it will royally fuck our biological instincts driving our reproductive desires.  If men no longer need women for easy sex then the likely result is the end of humanity.  We won't go out with a bang, but with a whimper and an orgasm. 

Regardless the effect of human social dynamics will likely change human relationships forever.  I can't even inagine how governments could get people to start having real sex again once this technology becomes prevalent. 
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on April 02, 2014, 09:26:13 PM
Doesn't japan already have a real problem with young men not giving a fuck about dating women and instead staying home with anime pillows?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on April 02, 2014, 10:05:30 PM
It's already happening in the West, we just call it by a different name, porn addiction.  Sexual gratification has never been easier and it will progressively get easier.  This is why women are getting sluttier, not because feminism has freed them from their bonds.  Not that women aren't falling prey to the ease of masturbation to porn either because tons are, especially with vibrator use on the rise.  We're slowly but surely become a world of hermits. 

Gen Y is more aware of the world than ever, but more disconnected from people than any generation before.  This is why the amount of goony motherfuckers around the world is on the rise and why slacktivists like Suey Park can't be bothered to do any actual work.  It's a foreign concept to them and it's only going to get worse.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on April 02, 2014, 11:29:00 PM
Yep. :drew: talks about it quite often: there are a growing number of dudes who are preferring porn to real women.  VR will just accelerate that.  Now that Facebook bought Oculus for $2 billion, there are a few other companies who are rolling out their own VR headsets. 

It won't be long until someone puts two and two together: an Oculus Rift + http://www.fetishsex-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/fuck_my_big_black_ass_sex_toy_lg.jpg + a USB cable to connect the two that works in unison with what someone is watching on the headset.  When it happens, there will be some stigma at first but it won't take long for Gen Y and Gen Z to say "fuck it" and do it anyway.  You can claim that it's as good as a random hookup without herpes.

The upside is that it will probably kill feminism off so I'm all for it.  The big undercurrent of feminist prevalence is that there are a lot of dudes who will tolerate feminist bullshit to get some pussy.  With that gone, feminism is going to go right with it.

Edit: Here is a story, Gen Y is having less sex: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/18/why-generation-y-less-sex

Quote
It found that women were having sex an average of 4.8 times a month and men, 4.9. Ten years ago this was 6.3 and 6.2, and 10 years before that, 6.1 and 6.4.

It's already happening now.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on April 03, 2014, 12:12:48 AM
Yep.  The CDC studies prove that people have less sex now than before.  It's hilarious that the sexual revolution that feminism started will ultimately kill it off as sex technology improves to the point where it's a far bigger hassle to have sex than it is to get off alone. 

Demolition Man here we come.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on April 03, 2014, 12:23:37 AM
Yep.  The CDC studies prove that people have less sex now than before.  It's hilarious that the sexual revolution that feminism started will ultimately kill it off as sex technology improves to the point where it's a far bigger hassle to have sex than it is to get off alone. 

Demolition Man here we come.

I'm still waiting for the Arnold Presidential Library to get built  :colbert:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on April 03, 2014, 03:30:37 AM
It's already happening in the West, we just call it by a different name, porn addiction.  Sexual gratification has never been easier and it will progressively get easier.  This is why women are getting sluttier, not because feminism has freed them from their bonds.  Not that women aren't falling prey to the ease of masturbation to porn either because tons are, especially with vibrator use on the rise.  We're slowly but surely become a world of hermits. 

Gen Y is more aware of the world than ever, but more disconnected from people than any generation before.  This is why the amount of goony motherfuckers around the world is on the rise and why slacktivists like Suey Park can't be bothered to do any actual work.  It's a foreign concept to them and it's only going to get worse.

And at risk of sounding goony as fuck, Asimov predicted this 60 years ago in his Robot books when he described thatnone planet, I think it was Solaria, where everyone was agoriphobic and lived alone, only seeing others by telepresence.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Babomb on April 03, 2014, 03:18:57 PM
It's already happening in the West, we just call it by a different name, porn addiction.  Sexual gratification has never been easier and it will progressively get easier.  This is why women are getting sluttier, not because feminism has freed them from their bonds.  Not that women aren't falling prey to the ease of masturbation to porn either because tons are, especially with vibrator use on the rise.  We're slowly but surely become a world of hermits. 

Gen Y is more aware of the world than ever, but more disconnected from people than any generation before.  This is why the amount of goony motherfuckers around the world is on the rise and why slacktivists like Suey Park can't be bothered to do any actual work.  It's a foreign concept to them and it's only going to get worse.

And at risk of sounding goony as fuck, Asimov predicted this 60 years ago in his Robot books when he described thatnone planet, I think it was Solaria, where everyone was agoriphobic and lived alone, only seeing others by telepresence.
That is the future.  A goons wet dream.  Never having to associate with "wrong think", never having to hear mom bitch at you to clean your room or take out the trash.  Never have to worry about getting an anxiety attack for talking to a girl. 
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hashtag Activist on April 03, 2014, 04:35:43 PM
It's not going to happen.  The shut ins are going to lock themselves inside and fuck their anime sex robot but normal people aren't going to go for that.  But  shrieking feminists and fat chicks are going to have a harder time finding beta nerds to fuck.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Aran on April 03, 2014, 06:51:08 PM
It's already happening in the West, we just call it by a different name, porn addiction.  Sexual gratification has never been easier and it will progressively get easier.  This is why women are getting sluttier, not because feminism has freed them from their bonds.  Not that women aren't falling prey to the ease of masturbation to porn either because tons are, especially with vibrator use on the rise.  We're slowly but surely become a world of hermits. 

Gen Y is more aware of the world than ever, but more disconnected from people than any generation before.  This is why the amount of goony motherfuckers around the world is on the rise and why slacktivists like Suey Park can't be bothered to do any actual work.  It's a foreign concept to them and it's only going to get worse.

And at risk of sounding goony as fuck, Asimov predicted this 60 years ago in his Robot books when he described thatnone planet, I think it was Solaria, where everyone was agoriphobic and lived alone, only seeing others by telepresence.

Yeah, Solaria, in The Naked Sun, damn good book.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hollywood Shabat Goy Yaro on April 03, 2014, 07:41:20 PM
Even funnier is that the Solarians evolve into hermaphrodites, just like goons turning into troons.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on April 03, 2014, 08:17:22 PM
asimov also wrote about everyone joining a faggot galactic hivemind happy utopia so i think asimov was also a giant fag too
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Aran on April 03, 2014, 11:17:58 PM
asimov also wrote about everyone joining a faggot galactic hivemind happy utopia so i think asimov was also a giant fag too
wow
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: MassiveMilitant on April 03, 2014, 11:51:00 PM
he did die of AIDS....
 :adam:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Doctor Jizzmopper on April 04, 2014, 06:47:09 AM
he did die of AIDS....
 :adam:

Because fags donated blood. Which they want to do again.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on April 04, 2014, 08:00:57 AM
asimov also wrote about everyone joining a faggot galactic hivemind happy utopia so i think asimov was also a giant fag too


Isaac Asimov was somewhat pozzed because he thought complete freedom just made you free to starve to death unless nanny government helped you.


However he's still my favourite sci-fi author so I want to forgive his pozzed outlook.



Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: hair sniffing boner diary on April 04, 2014, 01:57:35 PM
asimov also wrote about everyone joining a faggot galactic hivemind happy utopia so i think asimov was also a giant fag too


Isaac Asimov was somewhat pozzed because he thought complete freedom just made you free to starve to death unless nanny government helped you.


However he's still my favourite sci-fi author so I want to forgive his pozzed outlook.

(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiZVK5TIYAA6twD.jpg:large)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on April 04, 2014, 10:50:14 PM
asimov also wrote about everyone joining a faggot galactic hivemind happy utopia so i think asimov was also a giant fag too


Isaac Asimov was somewhat pozzed because he thought complete freedom just made you free to starve to death unless nanny government helped you.


However he's still my favourite sci-fi author so I want to forgive his pozzed outlook.

(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiZVK5TIYAA6twD.jpg:large)


true
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on May 03, 2014, 02:37:31 PM
The poz is now at Texas A&M, my school will be liberal in 10 years tops. 

http://mobile.texags.com/Forums/18/Topics/2474080

Fucking entitled as millenials.  Get a fucking loan like a normal person if you want to go that bad.  Thank god everyone on that thread gave him a bunch of real talk.  For that I'm glad people don't out up with this shit here.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Slacktivist on May 03, 2014, 04:05:59 PM
Quote
In the past year you've been able to afford to travel to Georgia for Chik Fil A Bowl, to Oxford for the Ole Miss game, and bought a 64 GB iPhone bc you "needed" it bc a 32gb wasn't big enough?

Solid financial planning and prioritization. You certainly sound "in need."

 :nixon:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: David Hedgehogstein on May 04, 2014, 05:26:21 AM
The poz is now at Texas A&M, my school will be liberal in 10 years tops. 

http://mobile.texags.com/Forums/18/Topics/2474080

Fucking entitled as millenials.  Get a fucking loan like a normal person if you want to go that bad.  Thank god everyone on that thread gave him a bunch of real talk.  For that I'm glad people don't out up with this shit here.
Link don't work...got any quotes for us?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on May 04, 2014, 09:10:40 AM
Some kid posts about how he wants to spend a semester abroad on a Jobs board for a Texas A&M fan site. He posts how badly he wants to go, blah blah blah, no money, blah blah blah. Then posts a link to a gofundme (some crowdsource thing) asking people to donate to it, on a jobs board. Every laughs at him and he presumably deletes it.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on May 04, 2014, 11:57:28 AM
Some kid posts about how he wants to spend a semester abroad on a Jobs board for a Texas A&M fan site. He posts how badly he wants to go, blah blah blah, no money, blah blah blah. Then posts a link to a gofundme (some crowdsource thing) asking people to donate to it, on a jobs board. Every laughs at him and he presumably deletes it.

Basically this.  Also see the quote from Slacktivist about the guy and his spending habits.  Clearly he has his priorities in order.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Agent of Aspieonage on May 04, 2014, 02:01:19 PM
Gen Y's concept of "I reeeeally want/need X" and the objective universal importance of them getting X and deserving X (especially on other people's dime) is going to get to a pretty funny distance apart in the next decade.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on May 04, 2014, 08:30:08 PM
Some Gen Y faggots will HTFU but I suspect a wide majority has an entitled attitude of wanting handouts that is too deeply ingrained in them to undo.

It's sad.  I'm in my late 20s and there are a lot of people I know who still don't have their shit together.  Most of them are waiting for something to fall in their laps and my mind is blown away at how people think that after waiting for 6-7 years that they don't take some action of some kind.  Nope, they keep working part time jobs and bitching about the recession.  No real effort to learn a skill that makes them marketable or hell, even doing the almost surefail going back for their Masters Degree.  Most of the girls I know are desperate to land a well off guy so they can just give up on trying to start a career.  "Hey, I can marry this computer programmer and I can keep working at the tanning salon in my 30s and 40s!"
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hollywood Shabat Goy Yaro on May 06, 2014, 12:04:48 AM
This needs to be posted here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MZfsbXilKU

Whomever is filming this is doing the Lord's work.  :reagan:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Internet Catchphrase on May 06, 2014, 12:10:14 AM
This needs to be posted here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MZfsbXilKU

Whomever is filming this is doing the Lord's work.  :reagan:

Troon? Or are young men really that high pitched and doughy these days?

LOL@ stop saying things.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: angryoldman on May 06, 2014, 12:14:35 AM
This needs to be posted here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MZfsbXilKU

Whomever is filming this is doing the Lord's work.  :reagan:

Troon? Or are young men really that high pitched and doughy these days?

LOL@ stop saying things.

"It's OFFENSIVE!"
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Aran on May 06, 2014, 02:34:23 AM
Gone
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Ghostse on May 06, 2014, 12:31:18 PM
Gone
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: BubbaCat on May 06, 2014, 12:48:52 PM
What was the video?  It has to be reposted.  That is the only good that comes from youtube.  Videos that are worth seeing are always reposted constantly.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Bitter Weirdo on May 06, 2014, 02:42:37 PM
What was the video?  It has to be reposted.  That is the only good that comes from youtube.  Videos that are worth seeing are always reposted constantly.

Some person of indeterminate gender has an epic limp out when it sees some guy carrying a sign condemning sinners, sodomites, etc. on a college campus. Also, xe get's roughed up by the sign carriers bodyguard.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hollywood Shabat Goy Yaro on May 06, 2014, 03:17:16 PM
Liveleak provides:

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f73_1399357010
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mullah Omar on May 06, 2014, 03:40:16 PM
Mark, shut up!
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Agent of Aspieonage on May 06, 2014, 05:13:13 PM
If I ever meet Mark, on that evening Mark will not be paying for any of Mark's drinks that Mark will drink, Mark.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill all goons on May 06, 2014, 05:28:26 PM
Jesus Christ what an autist.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Doctor Jizzmopper on May 06, 2014, 06:02:27 PM
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/05/06/proposed-carson-ordinance-would-criminalize-bullying/
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on May 06, 2014, 06:06:11 PM
Liveleak provides:

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f73_1399357010

Holly fucking shit.  Screaming and crying in public like that?   :hank:   I couldn't imagine myself being that angry about anything really.   Like, nothing would ever make me behave that way.  Ok like maybe if that guy was confronting the man who raped and murdered his mother, I could totally sympathize and give him a pass for freaking out.  But that is not what happened.  That goon freaked out because

A man was holding a pro-Christianity sign on a college campus

Just think how fucking broken that goon must be.  How many years of abuse did he suffer as a child?  Was he raped by a preacher?  What the fuck happened to his brain?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on May 06, 2014, 06:11:34 PM
Liveleak provides:

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f73_1399357010

Holly fucking shit.  Screaming and crying in public like that?   :hank:   I couldn't imagine myself being that angry about anything really.   Like, nothing would ever make me behave that way.  Ok like maybe if that guy was confronting the man who raped and murdered his mother, I could totally sympathize and give him a pass for freaking out.  But that is not what happened.  That goon freaked out because

A man was holding a pro-Christianity sign on a college campus

Just think how fucking broken that goon must be.  How many years of abuse did he suffer as a child?  Was he raped by a preacher?  What the fuck happened to his brain?

Constantly coddled, told he was special, never confronted with an adverse situation, never told "no", acting like a toddler gets you what you want so keep on doing it, the Gen Y reasons are endless.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Babomb on May 06, 2014, 07:16:19 PM
Liveleak provides:

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f73_1399357010
Hilarious.

Act like a toddler, get treated like a toddler, should have thrown that bitch into time out. 

Or better yet, dude in red shirt should've knocked him out, LIGHTS OUT.

Why don't the niggers ever play the knock out game on who I want to see knocked out?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Carbpoole on May 06, 2014, 08:20:18 PM
Liveleak provides:

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f73_1399357010

Holly fucking shit.  Screaming and crying in public like that?   :hank:   I couldn't imagine myself being that angry about anything really.   Like, nothing would ever make me behave that way.  Ok like maybe if that guy was confronting the man who raped and murdered his mother, I could totally sympathize and give him a pass for freaking out.  But that is not what happened.  That goon freaked out because

A man was holding a pro-Christianity sign on a college campus

Just think how fucking broken that goon must be.  How many years of abuse did he suffer as a child?  Was he raped by a preacher?  What the fuck happened to his brain?

There has to be some combination of words you can string together to make someone like that so offended they'll drop dead from a crying rage aneurism.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Fade to Vanilla on May 07, 2014, 12:38:10 AM
Jesus Christ what an autist.

had to watch it twice to recognize any of that atonal grunting and wailing as english words. and laughed even harder the second time.

"i hate you! that's hate speech!"   :rolleyes:  another benny-the-snake style college success story.  prime examples of today's levels of critical thinking and excellence in communication in action, folks.

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: SoCal Justice Warrior on May 07, 2014, 12:46:46 AM
That embarrassing display still puts him ahead of every keyboard lib faggot on the masculinity scale because at least he can now say he's thrown a punch in his life
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Doctor Jizzmopper on May 07, 2014, 01:29:55 AM
That embarrassing display still puts him ahead of every keyboard lib faggot on the masculinity scale because at least he can now say he's thrown a punch in his life

Gen Y 20 year old gets put down by AARP member.

Sad.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: angryoldman on May 07, 2014, 09:40:59 AM
Hilariously narcissistic millenial films her own abortion.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2621461/Abortion-counselor-proves-procedure-isnt-scary-posting-YouTube-video-OWN-termination-three-weeks.html

Quote
A 25-year-old abortion counselor has filmed herself having a surgical abortion and posted the video on YouTube, saying she wants it to help banish stigma surrounding the procedure.
:christina:

Quote
Emily Letts, who works at the Cherry Hill Women's Center in New Jersey, explains in an article for Cosmopolitan.com that ironically, despite being a sex educator, she hadn't been using any birth control and 'wound up pregnant' by mistake last November.
     :lolno:

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Martin Looter King on May 07, 2014, 10:34:35 AM
Hilariously narcissistic millenial films her own abortion.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2621461/Abortion-counselor-proves-procedure-isnt-scary-posting-YouTube-video-OWN-termination-three-weeks.html

Quote
A 25-year-old abortion counselor has filmed herself having a surgical abortion and posted the video on YouTube, saying she wants it to help banish stigma surrounding the procedure.
:christina:

Quote
Emily Letts, who works at the Cherry Hill Women's Center in New Jersey, explains in an article for Cosmopolitan.com that ironically, despite being a sex educator, she hadn't been using any birth control and 'wound up pregnant' by mistake last November.
     :lolno:

For as long as I can remember, shilibs have been saying that education is the best defense against pregnancy and that abortion was not a substitute for birth control.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Ghostse on May 07, 2014, 01:55:00 PM
FUCK YOU I DON'T LIKE YOU

Hilariously narcissistic millenial films her own abortion.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2621461/Abortion-counselor-proves-procedure-isnt-scary-posting-YouTube-video-OWN-termination-three-weeks.html

Quote
A 25-year-old abortion counselor has filmed herself having a surgical abortion and posted the video on YouTube, saying she wants it to help banish stigma surrounding the procedure.
:christina:

Quote
Emily Letts, who works at the Cherry Hill Women's Center in New Jersey, explains in an article for Cosmopolitan.com that ironically, despite being a sex educator, she hadn't been using any birth control and 'wound up pregnant' by mistake last November.
     :lolno:



I wouldn't date her (except to give her the patriarchal oppression that she secretly craves), but I'd let her have my abortion.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Black Gardener on May 07, 2014, 02:16:28 PM
Liveleak provides:

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f73_1399357010

And wearing an Epica shirt.  Pozzed band for a pozzed individual.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mullah Omar on May 07, 2014, 03:00:37 PM
Found it! Something it reminds me of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adn44cfYSdc
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hollywood Shabat Goy Yaro on May 07, 2014, 06:26:37 PM
Found it! Something it reminds me of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adn44cfYSdc

Unlike the pozzed out twink from the ASU video I can't bring myself to hate this guy just for his sheer passion andthe entertainment he provides.
(http://i.imgur.com/95f8dEb.gif)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: food desert on May 07, 2014, 07:19:26 PM
You know what I do when I walk by a person holding a sign I disagree with?

I keep walking. Why must these faggots fire up in a rage over a man holding a sign?

I guess I really don't mind much after all since they provide such entertainment and do a much better job of discrediting themselves than I could ever hope to.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Ghostse on May 08, 2014, 12:10:29 AM
You know what I do when I walk by a person holding a sign I disagree with?

I keep walking. Why must these faggots fire up in a rage over a man holding a sign?

I guess I really don't mind much after all since they provide such entertainment and do a much better job of discrediting themselves than I could ever hope to.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on May 08, 2014, 12:13:03 AM
First time in their lives that they've been told "No" most likely.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Martin Looter King on May 08, 2014, 11:29:04 AM
Found it! Something it reminds me of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adn44cfYSdc

Godamn that is the greatest thing.  Wonder what his SA username is?

Edit: bwhahahaha "The Weimar Republic as gay heaven, and look what came after it... Hitler" - and he runs off in the most gay way possible.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Babomb on May 08, 2014, 05:23:05 PM
Found it! Something it reminds me of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adn44cfYSdc

Unlike the pozzed out twink from the ASU video I can't bring myself to hate this guy just for his sheer passion andthe entertainment he provides.
Hahahahaha, that was hilarious.

Notice how the Christians were calm and collected and the atheists was ranting and raving like a lunatic.  He's got some associatism disorder, blaming the one sign holder for the collective wrongs of every single person who he thinks was a part of Christianity.

I find it hilarious how these militant atheists don't actually have an argument for why they hate religion, they just yell the same shit over and over. 

Seriously, if I was out jogging and I saw a sign that says "Jews murder Palestinian babies" or "all whites are responsible for slavery" I'd just keep going.  I don't have a need to confront everything that I disagree with.  The world is not a hugbox, one person's opinion and if they re offended doesn't matter.  Why should I give one fuck if that bitch is offended at something?  I'm offended by him, should I walk right up to him and yell in his face how he offends me?

He wouldn't like that one bit, and is too busy being the ever lasting victim of religion to comprehend how he's not treating others how he wants to be treated.  Since he's yelling and shit, others should find him on the street and just yell and curse him out like what he did here. 

The best part was when the crowd was laughing at him while he was trying to incite them to riot against the Christians.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Carbpoole on May 08, 2014, 06:53:35 PM
Found it! Something it reminds me of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adn44cfYSdc

Buffalo Bill, the college years.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Doctor Jizzmopper on May 08, 2014, 07:55:19 PM
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/05/06/proposed-carson-ordinance-would-criminalize-bullying/

The ordinance would make it a misdemeanor to cause any Carson residents from kindergarten through age 25 to “feel terrorized, frightened, intimidated, threatened, harassed or molested” without necessarily requiring a threat of physical harm.

To age 25.

TWENTY FUCKING FIVE.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on May 08, 2014, 10:13:22 PM
What's great is in the next 10-20 years we are going to see a massive amount of tears and "FUCKING SEVER"  :madgoon:  as the greediest and most self centered generation in American history (baby boomers) clashes with the most self entitled generation in history (gen crY).  We got a taste of this in the Ozma(fat) dox with her being pissed that her mother in-law failed to leave her any inheritance.  Get ready to see this kind of bitching all over the place.

I'm starting to see it already with the parents of people I grew up with.  The aging hippies retire, sell the family home for tons of cash, downgrade to a tiny condo in a retirement community, and just go on vacation for the rest of their lives.  The end goal is to just blow all their assets and dry up all their savings before they die.  I mean why not?  Baby Boomers are all about ME ME ME ME ME, and they still have a ton of wealth, so better blow that shit now while you still can!

Now watch as the self entitled gen crY's see their parents blow any and all potential inheritance.  It is the lifelong dream of all gen crYs to inherit the family home and live rent free in a huge house for the rest of their lives.  All gen crys dream of this day.  There are even Goons out there as we speak that are actually hoping their parents die just so they can score some inheritance. 

Honestly, I don't know which attitude is worse.  They are both pretty fucking despicable.  Kid's aren't automatically entitled to their parents savings and should never expect an inheritance, but on the other hand it is pretty shitty to not try and leave your children something after you die. 

TL:DR: Baby Boomers and Gen Y are both terrible.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on May 08, 2014, 10:29:18 PM
I'm still going to side with the boomers here.  At the end of the day, it is their money that they're spending.

It's not going to be pretty at all to see gen crY enter into their 30s.  The oldest members, like Ozmafat, already are.  I'm sure we'll see a glut of articles about how 30 is the new 20 and that it is the Republican party's fault that you're 35 and never got that big break you were definitely deserving of.  The gap between what gen Y wants and reality is really going to split wide open during this time.  Many people are simply not going to accept reality that they probably won't be able to live off of their indie music blog.  Many people are not going to accept reality when the doctor tells them that they're diabetic and they either have to give up sugary foods or give up their feet and vision.  Many people are not going to accept reality when they get passed over for that promotion to someone who doesn't whine continuously about a work-life balance.  Many people are not going to accept reality when they realize that no woman likes a fat 35 year old who still can't stop talking about 80s cartoons.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on May 08, 2014, 10:54:31 PM
I'm still going to side with the boomers here.  At the end of the day, it is their money that they're spending.

Yeah true.  I agree with this, but you also have to have at least a little sympathy for gen Y.  Gen Y owes the Boomers an incredible amount of money.  Boomers are going to start hammering those social security checks like nobodies business and it's Gen Y that has to pay the bill.

Also look at the massive amounts of debt the Boomers left behind.  There are only two ways to pay off that debt:  higher taxes, or currency devaluation.  Both of which are going to be hard for gen Y to deal with.  Especially since Gen Y won't have the same good jobs and high incomes that the Boomers had.

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Slacktivist on May 09, 2014, 06:25:10 AM
The way goons act I'd say they consider tolerating their parents to be some sort of social contract where the parents owe them everything in the inheritance. You see more cries to sever than actual severing.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on May 09, 2014, 08:23:43 AM
The two most selfish generations for centuries coming into direct conflict is going to be fucking amazing to watch
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: PUSSY CANCER on May 09, 2014, 09:45:37 AM
I'm still going to side with the boomers here.  At the end of the day, it is their money that they're spending.

Yeah true.  I agree with this, but you also have to have at least a little sympathy for gen Y.  Gen Y owes the Boomers an incredible amount of money.  Boomers are going to start hammering those social security checks like nobodies business and it's Gen Y that has to pay the bill.

Also look at the massive amounts of debt the Boomers left behind.  There are only two ways to pay off that debt:  higher taxes, or currency devaluation.  Both of which are going to be hard for gen Y to deal with.  Especially since Gen Y won't have the same good jobs and high incomes that the Boomers had.

Not to mention that Gen Y is saddled with tons of student loan debt and now they are mandated by the government to purchase overpriced shitty insurance (Obamacare).  Gen Y is so fucked lol
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Black Gardener on May 09, 2014, 10:02:43 AM
Everything would be a lot better if people realized that the state of the human condition is one of constant decay, and acted accordingly.  Humanism is bullshit.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on May 10, 2014, 04:48:34 PM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2HruwVGO-20

Yep.  This is what Gen Y is all about, white men hating the fact that they were born male and white.  I do have one question, why do all of these types of guys have high pitched voices and why do they always sound the same?  I've never seen this shit from men with deep voices.  Is it because all of these men secretly want to be women?  What's the deal?  :jesse:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Black Gardener on May 10, 2014, 04:57:19 PM
They're obsessed with being on the bleeding edge of how the herd of the nation interprets symbolism.  Inclusiveness is the byword of the day.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hollywood Shabat Goy Yaro on May 10, 2014, 06:03:24 PM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2HruwVGO-20

Yep.  This is what Gen Y is all about, white men hating the fact that they were born male and white.  I do have one question, why do all of these types of guys have high pitched voices and why do they always sound the same?  I've never seen this shit from men with deep voices.  Is it because all of these men secretly want to be women?  What's the deal?  :jesse:

I will say this - all of them look testosterone deprived. 
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on May 10, 2014, 07:32:50 PM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2HruwVGO-20

Yep.  This is what Gen Y is all about, white men hating the fact that they were born male and white.  I do have one question, why do all of these types of guys have high pitched voices and why do they always sound the same?  I've never seen this shit from men with deep voices.  Is it because all of these men secretly want to be women?  What's the deal?  :jesse:

never went through puberty
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on May 10, 2014, 09:11:47 PM
Those people have been around forever.  It's just now people are starting to record what these dumbasses are saying.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 888 Didnt Read Shit on May 10, 2014, 10:39:49 PM
Some Gen Y faggots will HTFU but I suspect a wide majority has an entitled attitude of wanting handouts that is too deeply ingrained in them to undo.

It's sad.  I'm in my late 20s and there are a lot of people I know who still don't have their shit together.  Most of them are waiting for something to fall in their laps and my mind is blown away at how people think that after waiting for 6-7 years that they don't take some action of some kind.  Nope, they keep working part time jobs and bitching about the recession.  No real effort to learn a skill that makes them marketable or hell, even doing the almost surefail going back for their Masters Degree.  Most of the girls I know are desperate to land a well off guy so they can just give up on trying to start a career.  "Hey, I can marry this computer programmer and I can keep working at the tanning salon in my 30s and 40s!"

To be fair, women have been like this for a lot longer than generation cry. To be even more fair, there's an argument to be had about how part time work when raising kids is maybe a good thing. That said, I'd certainly rather a wife with a part time career in something meaningful.

But anyway, a lot of women hunt for a guy who will mean they don't have to work anymore. The trick is finding one that at least as enough self respect to want to at least work some.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: As a white male I on May 11, 2014, 03:11:38 AM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2HruwVGO-20

Yep.  This is what Gen Y is all about, white men hating the fact that they were born male and white.  I do have one question, why do all of these types of guys have high pitched voices and why do they always sound the same? I've never seen this shit from men with deep voices. Is it because all of these men secretly want to be women?  What's the deal?  :jesse:

Protip: These twinks are not men.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Ghostse on May 11, 2014, 09:07:01 PM
Its not all hopeless. Here's a video where a Gen Y member talks about how much he loves his job

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtW6HW8jO_U
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Bitter Weirdo on May 12, 2014, 12:12:55 AM
Its not all hopeless. Here's a video where a Gen Y member talks about how much he loves his job

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtW6HW8jO_U

every "person" in this video should be taken behind a barn and put down like a lame horse.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: nerdball on May 13, 2014, 12:27:22 AM
Are grills still in? I thought they'd be out of fashion by now.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: SoCal Justice Warrior on May 14, 2014, 01:07:31 PM
Saw a bunch of Gen Y's in my social media feeds posting this today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVsXO9brK7M


Maybe the basic problem with Gen Yers is that so many of them were so easily susceptible to advertising and marketing telling them to FIND THEIR SPECIAL UNIQUE PURPOSE IN LIFE in order to sell them dumb shit and distract them from important things?

Also lol at the faggot saying that the only 20% of his graduating class at Yale who are happy and fulfilled are the ones who have degrees literature and poetry and shit.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Ghostse on May 14, 2014, 01:30:13 PM
Also lol at the faggot saying that the only 20% of his graduating class at Yale who are happy and fulfilled are the ones who have degrees literature and poetry and shit.

Because that's the 20% who had mumsy and dadsy's money to fall back on, and a cushy job at the family firm waiting for them when they graduate.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: The Watcher on May 15, 2014, 12:04:33 AM
When your whole life you are told saccharine bullshit there is a good chance you are gonna believe it at some point.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Black Gardener on May 15, 2014, 12:14:18 AM
We sublimate a little bit of everything we are subjected to.  Some people bring out those sublimations and attach more importance to them than reality itself.  This is where the problem lies.  It comes down to deluding ones self.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: The Watcher on May 15, 2014, 11:54:17 AM
We sublimate a little bit of everything we are subjected to.  Some people bring out those sublimations and attach more importance to them than reality itself.  This is where the problem lies.  It comes down to deluding ones self.
I also seem to notice that most of what SJW's believe is similar to the lessons or morals presented at the end of a Saturday morning cartoon from the 90's.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hollywood Shabat Goy Yaro on May 15, 2014, 01:46:46 PM
http://mashable.com/2014/05/15/never-say-to-graduates/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link

Personally I think these are important questions to ask college grads.   :umberto:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: a bad guy on May 15, 2014, 02:01:35 PM
I don't understand why anyone would get mad about those questions.  The people asking them seem to mean well and want the kid to do well in life.

But then again, asking a brat to attend to reality for even a moment is a fucking war crime it seems.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: bigperm on May 15, 2014, 02:43:16 PM
Because apparently modern 22 year olds can't handle basic social situations without acting like a moody eighth-grader.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: SoCal Justice Warrior on May 15, 2014, 03:02:10 PM
What do we need?  People to click our links.
Who spreads the most links?  22 year olds.
What do 22 year olds have in common?  Anxiety about their future in an uncertain job market and an addiction to feeling like other people understand them.
How do we connect with them?  Through animated gifs of popular tv shows, it is the only way.

And that is how Mashable and Buzzfeed work.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Agent of Aspieonage on May 15, 2014, 05:07:35 PM
http://mashable.com/2014/05/15/never-say-to-graduates/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link

Personally I think these are important questions to ask college grads.   :umberto:



Quote
20 Things You Should Never Say to College Grads


1. What are you doing after graduation?




10 Things You Should Never Eat in Italy

1. Pizza





10 Things You Should Never Visit in Egypt

1. The Pyramids





10 Things You Should Never Do The First Time a Girl Lets You Remove Her Bra

1. Touch her tits





10 Things You Should Not Do With Your Newborn Baby Immediately After Birth

1. Hold it







10 Things You Should Never Purchase When Buying a Gun

1. Ammunition






10 Things You Should Never Do in a Movie Theater

1. Watch a movie






10 Things You Should Never Say to a New Person You Are Being Introduced To

1. Hello













(http://i.imgur.com/m5W0qC7.jpg)

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Martin Looter King on May 15, 2014, 05:12:30 PM

10 Things You Should Never Do The First Time a Girl Lets You Remove Her Bra

1. Touch her tits


 :christina:
 :say:
RAPE RAPE RAPE
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Fade to Vanilla on May 16, 2014, 07:01:01 AM
Saw a bunch of Gen Y's in my social media feeds posting this today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVsXO9brK7M


Maybe the basic problem with Gen Yers is that so many of them were so easily susceptible to advertising and marketing telling them to FIND THEIR SPECIAL UNIQUE PURPOSE IN LIFE in order to sell them dumb shit and distract them from important things?

Also lol at the faggot saying that the only 20% of his graduating class at Yale who are happy and fulfilled are the ones who have degrees literature and poetry and shit.

oh for fuck's sake, what utter horseshit!

any mashable link.  any single one at all. ever.

oh for fuck's sake, what utter horseshit!
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dental Grade Dildo on May 16, 2014, 08:25:02 AM
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Leipzig

Quote
"Creative Theory of Value"[edit]
In a 2010 article in Cultural Weekly,[23] Leipzig proposed the Creativity of Value, an updated variation of Marx’s Labor Theory of Value.[24] According to this theory, the value of anything is the product of the Creativity involved in creating it multiplied by the Labor required to produce it. In mathematical terms, this is expressed as:

C * L = V

where C is Creativity, L is Labor and V is Value. Leipzig calls the result the Creativity Index. When the Creativity Index is the number 1 or more, creative efforts have a significant positive effect on the product’s value. But if the Creativity Index is less than 1, then creative efforts are a negative influence on the Labor; in other words, creative efforts devalue the labor involved in making the product. Leipzig has applied the Creativity Index to evaluate the dollar value of creativity in motion picture productions.

 :razor:

I'm having trouble finding his full bio - he was apparently born from Zeus's forehead as "one of those rare leaders who has the ability to truly deliver" and "a game-changing visionary and leader" (praise from Forbes or Time? nope, his own fucking personal site). But somehow I have a hunch that we'll find rich Jewish parents behind his media career.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Agent of Aspieonage on May 16, 2014, 04:35:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7Kboormk3Y

Goddamn it still holds up 8 years later.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 40k Scrotal Sacks on May 16, 2014, 05:17:22 PM
The message in the video is certainly a good one, but: If there's a guaranteed way to success and it's been the same throughout history, shouldn't the basic idea have spread around the globe like any other big discovery in human history? Shouldn't we all already be working out and doing things from the heart?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on May 20, 2014, 11:26:59 PM
http://www.vice.com/read/class-of-2014-youre-fucked?utm_source=vicefbus

Yet another article about Gen Y faggots taking LAS degrees at private colleges, graduating with obscene debts, and can't find a job that can pay off the loans.

Student loans are a huge problem but it makes me wonder why these sites try finding the biggest, whiniest, and most useless faggots around to interview.  Surely they have to be aware enough to know that these losers aren't going to elicit any sympathy outside of their faggot hipster cliques.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Slacktivist on May 21, 2014, 12:25:18 AM
Quote
“If I had to do it all over again, I would have just gone to work in a factory,” Cindy Klumb, who borrowed $30,000 to attain graduates degree in art and design at Pratt Institute in Brooklyn in 1992, reflected.

“College is a bad investment that only pays off if you don't have to go into debt to get your degree,” she said. “Borrowing to get an education guarantees you will never get anywhere or have even the most basic aspects of the so-called 'American Dream.'”

Quote
“Most of my professors have already told me how worthless my degree is in this economy,” said Joan Donovan who is slated to graduate in 2015 with a PhD in sociology from the University of California at San Diego.

Joan took out a $60,000 with her parents as an undergraduate in 1996 to attend school at Northeastern University. When her parents divorced a year later, their assets were frozen and the loan became due instantly. It wound up taking her nine years to finish school as a result since she had to work full time to pay off her debt.

... estimating that her education will end up costing her $200,000 over the next 30 years.

Quote
“Congress has done virtually nothing to help out my generation,” said millennial Julian Guerrero. “We need debt forgiveness.”

Julian, a Queens native, took out a $40,000 loan from Sallie Mae to study  :ultlibrage: video game design :ultlibrage: at Full Sail University in Florida after graduating in 2004.

Julian signed up for an accelerated program at Full Sail, requiring 40 hours a week of class work. Unable to pay his rent, buy groceries, and study at the same time—Full Sail costs $80,000 semester—Julian did what 86 percents of the classmates enrolled in his program have habitually done, he dropped out.

Back applying for school once again in 2007, this time to pursue a bachelor’s in sociology from Hunter College in Manhattan, Julian was shocked to learn from his guidance councilor that not a single one of the 18 credits he'd earned at Full Sail were transferable. He had received a regional accreditation, he was informed, invalid outside of Florida.

Julian was forced to start at square one at Hunter, while working, in his words, “a shitty-ass restaurant job.” Unable to make the $895 monthly payment on the loans or to even make interest payments of $600, Julian dropped out of school. Today he tells me he owes “something like $135,000” to the collection agency that purchased his debt from Sallie Mae and is working two full-time jobs.

lol finding common trends is fun

also I could've bolded everything about that retarded Julian fucker holy cow
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: a bad guy on May 21, 2014, 12:40:56 AM
http://www.vice.com/read/class-of-2014-youre-fucked?utm_source=vicefbus

Yet another article about Gen Y faggots taking LAS degrees at private colleges, graduating with obscene debts, and can't find a job that can pay off the loans.

Student loans are a huge problem but it makes me wonder why these sites try finding the biggest, whiniest, and most useless faggots around to interview.  Surely they have to be aware enough to know that these losers aren't going to elicit any sympathy outside of their faggot hipster cliques.

That's because well adjusted people will get a Mcjob or go do something other than whining about their misfortune.  These people cannot stop navel gazing long enough to do that.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Fade to Vanilla on May 21, 2014, 08:56:42 AM

Quote

Julian signed up for an accelerated program at Full Sail, requiring 40 hours a week of class work. Unable to pay his rent, buy groceries, and study at the same time—Full Sail costs $80,000 semester


80k a semester?  is that right?  i wouldn't have thought it possible but millennials possibly have a worse grasp of both economics and cause-effect relationships than most hoodrat heffa moolies.  holy shit.  where did this pinhead think 80k was gonna come from? and to make vidya gaymez?

and then he follows it up with sociology? at hunter? 

(http://i.imgur.com/ZGhd26W.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Z84o9w6.gif)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Slacktivist on May 21, 2014, 10:01:35 AM
We legit need a huge public effort in America to inform young people of how to actually plan for a future with a college education. HUGE. Tell every child, government mandate, whatever it takes. I mean literally telling this generation and the next that we want 9 out of 10 liberal arts majors to fuck off for 10-20 years. Sociology degrees become hyper selective with strict qualifications. That kinda shit. A shame those sweet sweet profits are too good for the colleges though.

I can't think of anything short of crime/hard drugs that is fucking up young people as fast as going into 5 digit debt over a fucking soft arts degree. And I know in my heart that the majority of them take it because they think it is the easier option because math is hard.

Like fuck, imagine if before you could even accept a single bit of debt or a single class from Full Sail you have to take a free crash course in mathematics/coding. Like just some 1-2 week government sponsored "here is the reality of this career path" thing.

Quote
Unable to pay his rent, buy groceries, and study at the same time—Full Sail costs $80,000 semester—Julian did what 86 percents of the classmates enrolled in his program have habitually done, he dropped out.

Quote
Today he tells me he owes “something like $135,000” to the collection agency that purchased his debt from Sallie Mae and is working two full-time jobs.

Funny how dude found time later huh.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 888 Didnt Read Shit on May 21, 2014, 10:13:50 AM
My undergraduate degree cost over 160K. I earned scholarships, yes goons, BOOTSTRAPS, and got that significantly lowered.

I still have a good deal of debt, but guess what? I DIDNT MAJOR IN USELESS HORSESHIT LIKE SOCIOLOGY.

I'm so fucking tired of these faggots who go to the most expensive schools majoring in things that don't pay off. If you go to say Harvard to major in crap that doesn't pay well on the other end, you better be rich or just accepting that you're making a terrible business decision.

History is another :hank: major. Yeah, history is a great hobby, and I enjoy learning about it. It doesn't pay the fucking bills though, NOR SHOULD IT.

Ever notice how the huge majority of the people crying in these articles domt have any marketable skills?  Gen Y really believes that a business may give a shit about their writing talent or their espousing about problematic whatever. News flash - you have a dime a dozen major.

Frankly, I'm happy so many idiots of my generation are doing this because it gives me infinite job security that I have a PhD in a difficult field and I have skills people care about.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 888 Didnt Read Shit on May 21, 2014, 10:16:25 AM
Also fucking lol @ "accelerated" being only 40 hours a week.  I spent over 60 hours a week on schoolwork when in my fucking undergrad. Goddamned worthless faggots.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Casual Rape on May 21, 2014, 10:27:21 AM
Why do dumbasses always go for the vidya gaem degree?

It's not like it means anything other than "I know C++ and Java  :unparsons:"
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on May 21, 2014, 10:28:40 AM
I guess it's really hard for people coming out of high school to know how crippling a $600+ loan payment really is. My bosses son was wanting to go to some private college that was like $30k a semester when he didn't know what he wanted to do. This was with his parents signing him up for the Texas tomorrow fund which is basically a prepaid tuition plan for any instate university. Luckily he didn't get accepted and had to settle on A&M but holy shit what a terrible choice it would have been.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on May 21, 2014, 01:38:22 PM
I love how they all turn to "debt forgiveness" as the answer.  That was the main message behind OWS for fucks sake.   


"I made bad decisions and can't pay my debts.  The government should pay them off for me!!!"
 :say:
 :librage:


The student loan bubble is nearly as big as the housing bubble was, and when that fucker pops we are in for a world of hurt.  You can't just forgive that debt like nothing happened.

"Whelp, lets just see here.  The banks are sitting on $1 trillion+ in unpaid student loans with no chance of getting their money back?  Eh, I guess we can make due.  Fire up those printers boys!  We are gonna be here all night!"
 :say:
 :bernanke:

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on May 21, 2014, 01:56:43 PM
http://www.vice.com/read/class-of-2014-youre-fucked?utm_source=vicefbus

Yet another article about Gen Y faggots taking LAS degrees at private colleges, graduating with obscene debts, and can't find a job that can pay off the loans.

Student loans are a huge problem but it makes me wonder why these sites try finding the biggest, whiniest, and most useless faggots around to interview.  Surely they have to be aware enough to know that these losers aren't going to elicit any sympathy outside of their faggot hipster cliques.

Because they need clicks. Sure, they could write a better and more useful article called "Class of 2020 You're Fucked" but :lolno: that high schoolers will read it. Write one for somebody graduating this week who is unsure of thier future and watch the ad revenue fly in.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: armchair nazi on May 21, 2014, 01:57:39 PM
I still have a good deal of debt, but guess what? I DIDNT MAJOR IN USELESS HORSESHIT LIKE SOCIOLOGY.
Exactly. I just graduated with a decent chunk of debt but I don't really care because it was a real degree and I now have a real job that pays real money. But obviously I should have instead followed my dreams of being a social worker or video game designer  :stewart:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Ghostse on May 21, 2014, 02:55:19 PM
My bachelors, including basic food and housing, cost ~$70-80,000; Half of that was tuition and covered by a full scholarship. I can't even put my head around 80K a semester unless it was a school where I was majoring in "Receiving amazing blow jobs from hot girls" with a minor in snorting cocaine. Or maybe "Going to College with a terminal expensive illness so the student health plan covers me" (with a minor in RABFHG).
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Elizabeth Warren Peace on May 21, 2014, 05:10:50 PM
Change needs to happen in the educational system at the high-school level.  Teenagers are super dumb and will believe whatever their parents tell them, even shit like "Follow your dreams!  You're so talented, a drama major is a great idea!" 

I've graduated with a degree in a stable, trade field (that cost me too much money IMO), but I picked a major that ensured a full-time job afterwards if you had just an average level of bootstraps.  I was really good at classical music in high school and a lot of adults around me believed that would be a good decision.  I was like fuck no, I would much rather pay rent on time every month.  A lot of my friends and peers didn't make the same choice I did and now they're struggling :(
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: New Feminist Jihad on May 21, 2014, 07:34:15 PM
Not all liberal arts is bad. Economics is often classified as liberal arts.
PoliSci isn't bad either if you can get an internship or something lined up quickly.
International relations could be grouped with PoliSci in that if you can make connections it can be a good degree depending on what you're looking for.
But yeah, the English and history and stuff, that's all retarded to get an education in. Before entering college I was hard-set on going into history, but then I looked into what jobs it can get you and quickly realized that.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on May 21, 2014, 08:53:08 PM
It's not that liberal arts degrees are "literally worthless".  They do have real value.  It's just that 90% of the time they aren't worth what you paid for them, and the time you spent getting them could have been used for something far more lucrative.

But if you can get your liberal arts degree finished in 4 years, and graduate nearly debt free, I still say it's a good idea.  There are many entry level jobs out there that just say flat out "college degree required".  That means any subject.  They don't care what you studied, they just want the degree.  They do this to trim down the giant stack of applications they get. 

Not only that but college is a great place to meet friends, find a wife, and build some relationships that should last you the rest of your life.  If you are a goony sperg in highschool and then go and join the pipe-fitters union at 18, you probably won't have many social interactions going on and you will most likely stay a goon forever.  College often de-goons a lot of people. 
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: The Floridian on May 21, 2014, 09:17:30 PM
Degrees in things other than the medical, scientific, or computer science/electronic fields seem utterly worthless to me.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: New Feminist Jihad on May 21, 2014, 10:30:04 PM
Degrees in things other than the medical, scientific, or computer science/electronic fields seem utterly worthless to me.
And we all trust your academic credentials, especially when you call business degrees worthless.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: The Floridian on May 21, 2014, 10:41:16 PM
Degrees in things other than the medical, scientific, or computer science/electronic fields seem utterly worthless to me.
And we all trust your academic credentials, especially when you call business degrees worthless.

Perhaps I worded that badly. What I was getting at is that goons seem to despise degrees that are much more likely to guarantee you a respectable income. Of course they're going to laugh off business degrees since the concept of business goes against the fundamentals of Marxism.

Goons.  :tuss:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Ghostse on May 22, 2014, 01:01:36 AM
If you get a BA at a liberal arts college and are not immediately proceeding to some other sort of education (Masters, Law school, med school) you have wasted your parent's money, full stop.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on May 22, 2014, 01:30:58 AM
Nothing wrong with getting a degree in underwater basket weaving if that's your bag.  It's when you believe, nay, demand, that you're supposed to get a $65,000 a year salary job waiting for you at the end of getting the degree is the problem.  The job market or government shouldn't and fortunately isn't creating make-work jobs for sociology majors who owe $90,000 in student loans.  The world at large doesn't owe you anything for successfully completing a degree in Queer Studies.

At this point, the faggots in these articles have read these horror stories for years.  In fact, they were around a decade ago and they said, "Hey, I'm a special snowflake and I decided for some dumbass reason that I'm going to be the exception to the rule!"  They wanted to put off the "real world" for 4-6 years and decided to go to Buttfuck University for Psychology.  Maybe they couldn't hack the real world or more likely, they thought they were worth it and really did believe that they can overcome the insurmountable odds of spending beaucoup bucks for a snowball's chance in hell shot of striking it rich in Journalism, even though Harvard grads are struggling to find even decent paying journalism gigs.  If graduates from elite universities are finding it hard, then how the hell does someone in some remote private college in the boonies stand a chance?  In the past, you could allow women to get these degrees because they were "Mrs." degrees so it didn't matter because she was there to find a future husband who was going for Accounting or Mechanical Engineering.  Maybe an English major who was all set to go to Law School.

I hate the idea of students carrying massive student loans but the mindset needs to change from "everyone deserves to find a degree that makes them happy" to "if you can swing it, go for it, otherwise go STEM or go home."  This means going up against 50 years of entitlement so I don't expect this to turn around but debt forgiveness is never fucking happening.  The only reason these fags can go to private colleges are because lenders are guaranteed to get this money back.  Once you take it away, interest rates are going to shoot up and/or start denying loans to special snowflakes who wants to go to a small art school.  Which may need to happen as kind of a reset button.  Good luck on that happening anytime soon.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on May 24, 2014, 12:08:55 PM
The title of this should have been "A series of shockingly terrible decisions"
http://www.xojane.com/it-happened-to-me/i-moved-back-in-with-my-parents-at-age-30

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I never expected to live with my parents at age 30 with my 4-year-old daughter in tow, but we had nowhere else to go after my boyfriend dumped me.

After clearing customs on the way back to America from my volunteer trip to Haiti, I called him. “This isn’t working out,” he said. “I had your stuff moved into storage.”

It wasn’t the "welcome home" I'd envisioned after spending the week in Haitian communities distributing shoes to kids in need. But I'd envisioned this day for several months. I’d known for a while that we had to go our separate ways, but for the sake of my daughter and his two sons, I wanted a plan of departure to ensure the smoothest transition possible.

I had one flight left to gather the composure to tell Lexi her surrogate family was no longer. I pictured her big blue eyes filling with confusion. She was expecting me to pick her up from a “mini vacation” at Nani and Papa’s house. Now, I had to explain I’d be joining her there for an indefinite sleepover.


To outsiders, I knew that moving in with my parents might sound like the best option considering my single-mother status. But pride, age and child aside, there was another reason I was apprehensive about returning home. The house I grew up in is also home to my 13-year-old niece, who has been living there since she was almost 2.

I was at college orientation when my mom called and said my brother and his daughter (my niece) had shown up at the door after he found out his then-wife was abusing the little girl. My niece has continued living with my parents ever since; my brother just down the street.

Raising a child who suffered abuse is full of hardship for everyone involved. After my divorce a few years prior, I temporarily moved home, so I knew difficulties were ahead. Since Lexi was no longer an infant, I’d have to be prepared to explain why there are times when her cousin wants to play and times when she ignores her or refers to her as “it” or “that thing” or “stupid” in passing.

Still, if there’s one thing I’ve learned from my failed relationships, it’s that children can live stably amongst instability. Sure, there would be times Lexi and I would have to hibernate in our bedrooms, or even get in the car and leave if my niece yelled, cursed or banged on walls as she struggled to cope with lingering demons. The unpredictable behavior forced me to be two steps ahead, keeping a keen state of awareness. But I did this because I was Lexi’s rock.
Living at home was the truest test of patience I’ve ever encountered. And aside from child support, I had no income, which made me feel helpless and dependent. Months prior, the ex-boyfriend had talked me into quitting my high-paying job in marketing to pursue my writing. After some lengthy conversations, I did quit. And the following week, I learned about the two-year relationship my boyfriend was having with a younger, married neighbor. For the next four months (until he put our stuff in storage), I tried excusing his behavior -- I still wanted a “family” for Lexi. In hindsight, I valued the illusion of a family more than my own self-respect.
 
During the first few days following the breakup and my return from Haiti, I wallowed in self-pity. I recall sitting on the porch at our family's “camp” (aka a small cabin on a lake), a place that has always reminded me that paradise isn't just an island with white sand beaches. And on that summer day, as I hid behind sunglasses with swollen eyes, I got another reminder -- from my mother.

“You know, Erinne,” she said, “you keep saying you don’t want Lexi affected by this breakup. If that's true, you need to model how people deal with changes: with strength, with confidence. As long as you’re happy, she will be happy.”

I looked down to the shore where Lexi was wading in the water, splashing and laughing with her cousins. She was happy now, but my mom was right. I took her advice to heart.

Society puts so much pressure on how people are supposed to act, what we should be doing by a certain age, what a "normal" family should look like. We’re so busy thinking about how to get to a better place that we see our downfalls more than our joys. I think back to Haiti, where even some of the orphaned kids seemed to have an admirable sense of belonging; their struggles almost seemed to strengthen them.

That’s the thing I’ve learned about struggle: It’s necessary to propel us forward. When my mother suggested I push my worries aside for Lexi’s sake, it made sense. But I also learned we can't just let our troubles linger there in silence. We have to sit with them. Unravel them. Ask them questions.
 
Living with my parents at 30 obviously wasn't my dream choice, but it gave me the time to figure out how to use silence productively. When I stopped letting the complexities of life overwhelm me, I found great beauty in spending time alone -- without feeling sorry for myself or angry at my ex-boyfriend. I eventually forgave him for exiting Lexi’s life, and I forgave myself for seeking a man to complete us.
 
After two months at the same childhood home I grew up in, I re-enrolled in the University of Maine to finish my English degree. In another two months, Lexi and I moved into our own apartment -- just the two of us. And I finally understand: no matter where or with whom we live, we are already whole.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mullah Omar on May 24, 2014, 12:24:30 PM
A friend of yours Cis Scum?
http://www.xojane.co.uk/it-happened-to-me/i-almost-died-on-a-kayak-trip
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on May 31, 2014, 09:50:41 AM
http://www.xojane.com/fun/playboy-mansion-parties
I guess someone wanted attention today. A whole thread of "I was hot enough to go to Playboy mansion parties, ugh can't believe these guys keep looking at the women!"
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Black Gardener on May 31, 2014, 10:03:31 AM
http://www.xojane.com/fun/playboy-mansion-parties
I guess someone wanted attention today. A whole thread of "I was hot enough to go to Playboy mansion parties, ugh can't believe these guys keep looking at the women!"

I'd say she must be a riot at parties, but that issue seems to be aaaaaaaaall tided up.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OMNIPRESENT CYBERFILTH on May 31, 2014, 10:14:09 AM
http://www.xojane.com/fun/playboy-mansion-parties
I guess someone wanted attention today. A whole thread of "I was hot enough to go to Playboy mansion parties, ugh can't believe these guys keep looking at the women!"

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They were probably expecting me to dress as a "slutty something" instead of a bloody zombie with a fetus. Whoops? Also, I wore Uggs that night because I hate wearing heels. I basically gave up and knew I probably wouldn't be getting an invite back. I was right. No more invites. At least I went out like a champ.

If someone invited to me one of those parties today, there's no way in hell I would go. I even cringe when I have to drive by Hollywood Blvd. I can't believe I used to go to these parties.

And women say guys don't notice their personality.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on May 31, 2014, 10:28:46 AM
Even a lot of the comments were like "well, what did you expect?"
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Agent of Aspieonage on May 31, 2014, 10:44:27 AM
http://www.xojane.com/fun/playboy-mansion-parties
I guess someone wanted attention today. A whole thread of "I was hot enough to go to Playboy mansion parties, ugh can't believe these guys keep looking at the women!"


I thought dat hoes name was familiar. She live tweeted some noname actor trying to poorly mack on her on an airplane.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/model-melissa-stettens-live-ruination-of-brian-presley-proves-twitter-beats-facebook/

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No thanks, Brian, the actor sitting next to me on this flight talking about his role with Kurt Russell and his spiritual beliefs
Brian has a wedding ring. I ask him how his wife is, he says he just wears the ring because he likes it. Right, Brian. (later deleted)
Apparently Brian is a straightforward guy from Oklahoma who booked a McDonalds commercial when he was 19 and then God took over from there
Brian hates closed minded people but loves artists in the industry, and just called this one-sided conversation a “collabo” between us
Oh wow, Brian grew up on a ranch with uber conservative parents but his stance on gay marriage is ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz….
Brian just said “like us sitting here right now, talking about where we’re from, it’s like divine interception.” right, interception
Yes, this is BRIAN! RT @Pat_Healy: @MelissaStetten Is this him by any chance? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0696169/’
He said he was engaged for 6 months but broke it off! RT @Pat_Healy: @MelissaStetten Ask him how his wife Erin and son Jackson are
Brian just took his Heineken in a plastic cup into the bathroom. Will report back shortly
Holy shit, Brian came out of the bathroom WITHOUT his wedding ring on. Watch out Virgin America, you’ve got a real charmer on board. (later deleted)
Brian is back, he just ordered the chicken salad sandwich
Brian’s been looking for the headphone jack for 10 minutes
Brian said he was engaged to another actress but it didn’t work out because they didn’t “mesh well” together
Holy shit. He’s had 3 heinekens and is wasted. Sober? Hardly. RT @PlaidMcPlatypus: did you say he was drinking beer?
Did I just ruin Brian Presley’s life via twitter?
Who opens the windows on a redeye flight? Brian does. Fucking Brian http://twitpic.com/9tdd17


Not sure which one of them is more loathsome.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: HippyDrillPilot on May 31, 2014, 03:40:22 PM
Why is she directing her tweet @Pat_Healy?  That's an MMA fighter.  Does she want him to kick this dude's ass or something?

Oh wait, that's some faggy looking actor named Pat Healy, not the fighter.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on May 31, 2014, 05:30:16 PM
Its amazing at the how devastating the one thread in all these stories is: an inability to take responsibility for one's actions and the desire for someone else to come fix all their problems, as well as an incredible determination to resist any lessons learned.

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on May 31, 2014, 08:29:45 PM
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Still, if there’s one thing I’ve learned from my failed relationships, it’s that children can live stably amongst instability. Sure, there would be times Lexi and I would have to hibernate in our bedrooms, or even get in the car and leave if my niece yelled, cursed or banged on walls as she struggled to cope with lingering demons. The unpredictable behavior forced me to be two steps ahead, keeping a keen state of awareness.

Alpha'd by a 13 year old girl.
:swanson:

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Months prior, the ex-boyfriend had talked me into quitting my high-paying job in marketing to pursue my writing. After some lengthy conversations, I did quit.

She should have quit to run a shoe store instead. :smug:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Agent of Aspieonage on June 06, 2014, 02:50:20 PM
This was floating around my facebook as clickbait, and I was pleasantly surprised by realtalk over muh feelz.

http://www.umbrelr.com/young-mother-giving-kids-dont-blame-2/




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WHY MY KIDS ARE NOT THE CENTER OF MY WORLD

Wait, what did she say? Yeah, you read that right.
This blog post is a bit of a rant and it’s a bit all over the place. My kids are NOT the center of my world, and that’s quite simply because they aren’t the center of any world, anywhere.

If you’re feeling adventurous today, feel free to read on. I’ll forewarn you though, this post contains subject matter about which I feel very strongly. As are most emotionally heated issues – I suppose it’s controversial. But hey, I feel how I feel and that’s not going to be changed.

The emotions that sparked this blog post were given a little bit of a supercharge last evening. Hendrix was picking out what he wanted to take to school for Show & Tell. He chose a little Imaginext action figure – one that he’s had for about two years now. With the action figure comes a little yellow object. For the two years that he’s had this toy, that yellow object has always been a drill to him. He gathered the action figure, the mask that goes with him, and the yellow drill and proudly told me he’d chosen that for Show & Tell. Then, you could see him thinking. And he promptly changed his mind and said to me, “You know what, I better not take this. My teacher will probably think it’s a gun, and then I’ll get in trouble,” put the action figure back, and chose something else.

I often think about the world my boys will grow up in. I often get angry when I think about it. This particular situation just furthered those emotions for me.

In completely selfish terms, bringing my boys into this world was such a great decision – for me. They bring me so much joy, they fill my heart, they make me happy. But I often question whether or not it was the right decision for them. My boys are typical little boys. They love to play guns. They love to play good guy versus bad guy. They love to wrestle and be rowdy. That’s the nature of little boys, as it has been since the beginning of time.

How long will it be before their typical boy-ish behavior gets them suspended from school? How long before they get suspended from daycare??? How long will it be before one of them gets upset with a friend, tells that friend to go away and leave them alone, and subsequently gets labeled as a bully?

The mentality of our society in 2013 is nauseating to me, friends.

Many years ago, there was a time where young boys could run around with their toy guns, killing the bad guys. You could take the toy guns away from the little boys, and they’d find something else around them – a stick, their fingers, etc – and pretend it was a gun. Today, those little boys – if caught doing that – are labeled as threats, and immediate action is taken to remove that threat from the group.

There was a time – not too long ago – when bullying was defined as slamming someone up against a locker and stealing their lunch money. There was a time when kids got called names and got picked on, and they brushed it off and worked through it (ask me how I know this). Now, if Sally calls Susie a bitch (please excuse my language if that offends you), Susie’s whole world crumbles around her, she contemplates suicide, and this society encourages her to feel like her world truly has ended, and she should feel entitled to a world-wide pity party. And Sally – phew! She should be jailed! She should be thrown in juvenile detention for acting like – gasp – a teenage girl acts.

Modern parenting and thinking makes me crazy. The young generations of today (yes, I sound old. I realize I’m only 29 years old.) are being taught that they shouldn’t have to ever put up with anything doesn’t make their hearts feel like rainbow colored unicorns are running around pooping skittles onto piles of marshmallows.

Modern parenting is creating a generation that’s not going to be able to function in society.

Your child, who you cater to every need, who you shelter from all things “evil.” How will this child react when he or she grows into adulthood? “Debbie” graduates from high school and goes to college. She writes her first paper and meets with her professor about that paper and the professor tells her that it’s junk and it will get a failing grade. How will Debbie cope with that if she’s always been made to feel that no one should ever make her feel sad, or criticize anything she does?

“Donna” graduates from college and gets a job – you know, in the real world. She has to work on a committee to come up with a marketing plan. She shoots out an idea, and it gets immediately turned down. What is she to do? Go home and cry because no one liked her idea? Quit her job because she can’t handle rejection?

Modern parents, who drop everything all the time to sit and play with the child, who “needs attention,” or drop what they’re doing to help the child the second he or she gets frustrated? How is Joey going to deal with the fact that there won’t be anyone in his adult life who’s willing to stop what they’re doing, stop living their busy lives, to cater to his every whim?

How do you think Billy is going to cope in the real world, when his boss gives him a vague task to complete, and offers no helpful information as to how to complete this task? Mr. Boss is certainly not going to hold Billy’s hand and help him through the task. Mr. Boss expects it to be completed by Monday. How has Billy been prepared to use his critical thinking and problem solving skills to be able to complete that task? He hasn’t.


(Don't let your babies grow up to be Benny the Snake lol)

I certainly hope that the title of this blog post is starting to make sense. Parents who make their children the center of their universe are not doing anyone any favors. Obviously, as parents, we love our children more than anything. But dropping everything to cater to their every need is only going to lead to a very rude awakening once they enter the real world.

I’m not telling anyone how to parent, and I’m far from perfect myself. But when my kids can’t find something, I refuse to help them until they’ve at least made a concerted effort to find it themselves. This isn’t being mean, it’s teaching them to at least attempt to solve a problem themselves before just giving up and asking for help.

When the TV gets turned off after the allotted time on the weekends, my kids are instructed to go play together in their room. I love and miss them during the work week, but I am not just a mom, I’m also Matt’s wife, I’m also Stephanie, and I also run our household. There are things I have to get done, and my boys understand that. My children – while Matt and I both spend time playing with them – understand that the world doesn’t begin and end with them. This allows them to find ways to entertain themselves, it builds imagination, and it teaches them to get along with each other without constant intervention.

We follow the rules and don’t take toy guns or weapons to daycare. But I’ll be darned if my boys aren’t allowed to be little boys when they’re at home. They have several toy guns and it’s constantly a good guy vs. bad guy battle in my house. I feel like this teaches them to do the things they want to do, while respecting other’s rules and regulations. It also teaches them that there are differing opinions about things in this world and that’s ok. We can like and believe in the things we want, while respecting that others may not agree with us.

My children are all but ignored when they ask for something without using manners. They understand that when someone addresses or speaks to them, they are to speak back. When we go out to eat, we don’t take 5 electronic devices to keep them “entertained” for the 15 minutes we have to wait for our food. If Hendrix is “bored” (and I use that term loosely), then he can put on his jacket and go play outside.

Everyone parents differently, and I respect that. The current generation may be one that expects nothing less than everything from this world. But I know of two gentlemen that are going to be able to accept failure and move on having learned something from it.

I know of two gentleman who will be hurt emotionally, but who will be able to work through the hurt and carry on with life. I will cushion the emotional fall as much as a mom can, but I will not completely prevent it from happening. They will not expect whoever hurt them to be punished. Heck, I might even teach my children the power of forgiveness.

These two gentlemen will understand the value of hard work, and know that hard work is required to get where one wants to be in life.

They will, while understanding the need for caution, appreciate that not everyone out there is out to get them. Not everyone is out to do evil things.

These gentlemen will understand that there are about a gazillion people in this world. While they are incredibly special to me and my family, they are not special to the world. That probably sounds terrible, but people! It’s the harsh truth, and it needs embraced!

I know that I can’t change the mindset of modern parents. That’s never been and never will be my goal. I just want to make sure that I raise my sons to grow into respectable men who can thrive and succeed, due to having been prepared to do so.

My kids are not the center of my world because I love them enough not to allow them to be.

Have a great weekend, friends.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on June 06, 2014, 05:33:37 PM
Who the fuck is this privileged white cis woman to tell us how to raise our kids!  This backwards bitch is from South fucking Dakota.  Here in Pozzlandia, that would never fly!

 :ultlibrage: :ultlibrage: :ultlibrage: :ultlibrage: :ultlibrage:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on June 06, 2014, 11:34:14 PM
So much realtalk, and yet she named her kid "Hendrix."
:swanson:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on June 07, 2014, 11:04:03 AM
http://www.xojane.com/issues/interracial-dating-and-job-interviews

"IT HAPPENED TO ME: I LOST A DREAM JOB OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE OF INTERRACIAL DATING"

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The more I thought about it, the more I realized I didn’t want to write for a publication led by someone with views so adamantly opposed to mine. I decided not to submit my stories.
Keep up that great writing career of yours.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mullah Omar on June 07, 2014, 06:13:23 PM
IT HAPPENED TO ME: I TURNED DOWN A DREAM JOB OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE SOMEBODY SLIGHTLY OFFENDED ME IN SMALL TALK ABOUT DATING*


*However I will have a relationship with a man who mocks me and previous partners that are white regularly.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: LITERALLY A RAPIST on June 07, 2014, 11:00:11 PM
http://www.xojane.com/issues/interracial-dating-and-job-interviews

"IT HAPPENED TO ME: I LOST A DREAM JOB OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE OF INTERRACIAL DATING"

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The more I thought about it, the more I realized I didn’t want to write for a publication led by someone with views so adamantly opposed to mine. I decided not to submit my stories.
Keep up that great writing career of yours.

the awful, awful bigotry from her black female boss:

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“I lived there for a short while and was unable to find anyone suitable,” she went on. “In order to date in that city, you have to date a white guy!” She began to laugh.

that's right. a black woman saying that the only single guys in LA are white dudes. of course that sent triggers through the author:
 
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I wasn’t exactly sure how to respond. Here I was, on the brink of my dream shot, and my potential boss, founder of a magazine focused on African-American women, was belittling interracial dating. She was speaking of it as if it was something no one would dare get into. “Why would you even consider dating outside your race?” she seemed to be saying to me. She was waiting for me to laugh in agreement, and I didn’t know what to say.

after twisting and turning an off-cuff comment from her future boss into something that it's not, she then comes up with how reacting negatively would totally result in discrimination and harassment against her on the job:

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If I raised an argument, would I ever be published? If I agreed, what would that say about me as a person who has no issues dating inside or outside of my race? Attraction and love is deeper than skin color in my opinion. So when this strong, entrepreneurial black woman, an editor of a brand new magazine, someone I could look up to and aspire to, was alluding to the idea that dating white men was somehow against the rules, I froze.

of course she isn't even dating a white guy at the time of this but did one time, so it's totally cutting deep into her. and she has to stick to her principles and can't possibly work for such a bigot.

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The more I thought about it, the more I realized I didn’t want to write for a publication led by someone with views so adamantly opposed to mine. I decided not to submit my stories. Was this a missed opportunity? Perhaps. Should I have worked my way in to fight from the inside? Maybe. But as it stands I have no regrets.

tl;dr boss makes comment about only being white single guys in LA, is literally worse than hitler and author can't possibly work for such a bigot so she passes on her "dream job".
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: White Power Superhero on June 07, 2014, 11:45:45 PM
There's not compromising your beliefs for your business life and there's being an oversensitive developmentally broken faggot.

Why freak out and turn down over an opportunity over positions that weren't even uttered on issues that don't even matter?

If I worked for a boss who didn't approve on interracial dating, I wouldn't give a shit and a half as long as the fact that I am in an interracial relationship did not affect the nature of my business and the success I reap for it.

It's as meaningless as my boss LOVING men of other races.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Trump is the New Norma on June 08, 2014, 09:07:40 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/08/us/politics/obama-plans-steps-to-ease-student-debt.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

More pandering to GenY idiots who took out massive college loans.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on June 08, 2014, 09:29:11 PM
Reading the article, it doesn't seem like it has a chance in hell of going through.  It's a cynical ploy to try to get more younger voters to the polls this November.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: deceased negroid depot on June 08, 2014, 09:33:53 PM
There's not compromising your beliefs for your business life and there's being an oversensitive developmentally broken faggot.

Why freak out and turn down over an opportunity over positions that weren't even uttered on issues that don't even matter?

If I worked for a boss who didn't approve on interracial dating, I wouldn't give a shit and a half as long as the fact that I am in an interracial relationship did not affect the nature of my business and the success I reap for it.

It's as meaningless as my boss LOVING men of other races.
It's almost like it was an excuse to keep on being an unemployed blob. Weird.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on June 08, 2014, 10:56:48 PM
Reading the article, it doesn't seem like it has a chance in hell of going through.  It's a cynical ploy to try to get more younger voters to the polls this November.

I also don't have to read it to know it's fucking bullshit.

Let me take out my crystal ball and see if I can predict what is between the lines of this proposed law:

1) it only applies to Federal Loans, and possibly former Fed loans that were bought by a third party servicer

2) it will NOT affect private loans

3) it will only restrict Federal loan payments to 10% of monthly income, not aggregate that with private loans

4) it will be 10% of pre-tax income

So let's use me 10 years ago as an example. This isn't true for me now because I've paid off a few of these loans, and I make more.

10 years ago I made $35k a year. My student loan payments were around $550 a month. My monthly pre-tax income was $2900 so reducing that to $290 would be great. Except...only $300 of that was Federal Loans, and of that only $180 was still being paid to the government, Sallie Mae had bought my community college loans.

So at best, my $300 Federal and former Federal loans would be reduced to...$290. I'd still be on the hook for the $250 a month I was paying Wells Fargo for those loans I took out directly from them as private lenders. Not to mention I wasn't getting $2900 a month in disposable income...after taxes and health insurance it was $2320. Before rent, car, car insurance, gas for work, credit cards (which I had huge payments on back then), food, etc.

10% of pre-tax income isn't the same as 10% of disposable income, but it sounds the same for political purposes. Which is all this is...a political feel good thing which will cost the private lenders nothing and do very little to change anyone's monthly bills. It also does nothing for those private loans, which are not only not dischargeable during bankruptcy, they are also very difficult to get forbearances and deferments on, even in cases of unemployment--especially if you have a co-signer. And most of these students with massive amounts of $100k loans have the bulk of that in private loans, since there are limits to how much you can take out in Federal loans. These news stories don't mention that. Obama's magic wand can't change those, without a massive bailout to the lenders.

Shit, right now there's already a 10% of your monthly income Federal loan repayment program, and it does apply to older loans. A few years back I was in hard times and I requested my payments to be lowered and even when I started making more money, they never bothered to check or ask again. My monthly minimum, if I chose to only pay that, is far far less then 10% of my monthly income on 20 year old loans and that's held true even after they were bought out by another lender.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: DreddBOSS on June 09, 2014, 12:00:04 AM
 I actually defaulted on my loans, had the loan bought out, and still got consideration for my inability to pay. It was just a matter of contacting the-then current loan handler and saying "shit, I'm outa job, Boeing cancelled a project and laid off people, what can I do?"

I mean, literally, I was immediately transferred to a guy/gal who apparently specialized in hard cases and worked out a deal for repayment; usually resulting in a lower monthly payment until I found the next job. Even when I couldn't find a job with acceptable income to make my previous full payments, I was able to keep the lower monthly payment plan.

I don't get it in regards to graduated students with massive debt. Loan handlers do suck, and chances are more often than not you'll be paying money to some nebulous Chinese consortium than to he U.S. government, but damn, it wasn't like I couldn't get some handle in the situation
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on June 09, 2014, 12:08:19 AM
i like the disconnect with fagshits and the wise quotes they always love to post on facebook and shit

like one day they'll post something like "give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish..." and then make some shallow comment about the state of modern education

and then they baby their fucking kids by endlessly giving them fish
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Fade to Vanilla on June 09, 2014, 09:43:50 AM
with an increasingly large portion of gen crY (Benny the Snake, many d&d/wymynyst/troons and all sadmins, I'm looking your way), loan servicers could repossess the deadbeat's brain and there would be little to no loss of apparent outward cognitive capacity. 

obama should commission a panel to investigate this option further.  take the rest of your term to follow this up, plzkthx.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: LITERALLY A RAPIST on June 10, 2014, 12:38:35 PM
Reading the article, it doesn't seem like it has a chance in hell of going through.  It's a cynical ploy to try to get more younger voters to the polls this November.

ding ding ding ding ding

it seems like more and more shit just gets pushed forward because the left knows it's going to get shot down but they can say they tried. "well, we TRIED to push forward a bill in congress to give 100k to every american but those republicans just shot it down, they want you to stay poor!"

also did anyone see the link to a fake article floating around that Obama signed into law complete student loan debt forgiveness? it was floating around my facebook feed for the last couple of days with people all excited. people that had gone to college and gotten university-endorsed intellectual enlightenment seriously believed that the president would wave his magic wand and make billions of debt just disappear.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mullah Omar on June 10, 2014, 01:16:03 PM
Some choice quotes from some A whole wall of text of peak Gen Y fished from the Guardian:

Quote
"You know this is permanent?" the sceptical tattooist says. It's 1999 and I'm in a tattoo parlour in Mill Hill armed with a copy of British Vogue to anaesthetise my brain. I'm having a full sleeve done.

Sadly, the word "permanent" has no resonance when you're 20. Barbed wire effect around the wrist? Hokusai-style wave design resembling the marbling in medium strength Castello cheese? Big black paisleys pieced together like a children's jumbo jigsaw into a faux armour plate? Indigo slashes over smeared blocks of red, purple, pink and green? I have them all. On one tattoo.

I now think of my sleeve as a form of socially legitimised self-harm, done at a time when I was agonising about my career. A self-sabotaging former child prodigy and writer whose physical prowess is part of the package, and whose best days are behind them by their 20s? The sleeve had to be done. And since then more and more people have made the same decision, although probably for very different reasons. Fifa has just released photos of the England World Cup squad, revealing that four players have had the mental acuity to pick up on the sleeve trend just five years after it first peaked, inspired by David Beckham. Justin Bieber has, inevitably, completed a sleeve too.

But I no longer belieb. Underneath my ink smears are raised scars; the whole thing bubbles up and itches in summer. Even in a tailored suit it peeps out like mould. Blue ink has seeped between the layers of skin and spread into my armpit. My generation will be at the NHS at 80 getting our gammy legs seen to while doctors try to find a vein under the faded, stretched, misshapen detritus of our unartistic body art; a postmodern mash-up of badly translated Chinese words, bungled Latin quotes, dolphins, roses, anchors, faces of favoured children or pets, and Japanese wallpaper designs.

Nearly all world cultures have had tattoos. They represent adulthood rites, warrior marks, artistry and beauty, tribal identification, victories won, journeys undertaken. They have represented both belonging and marginality; individuals on the edge, pillaging, hustling, grifting. Now they are a hipster habit, a sheeplike folly, a permanent pretension. You can stumble into a Magaluf tat parlour in a drunken stupor and have Snoopy inked on your minge.

My sleeve took three sessions of nine hours each and felt like what it was: a needle loaded with ink jamming into my skin at high speed. It vibrates exhilaratingly through your bones, zings into the flesh, numbs you out, exhausts you later, sweats blood, swells up. A one-inch tattoo across the nervy, fatty pad at the bottom of my spine hurt a million times more than the sleeve.

At the parlour the man next to me was having the Rizla logo put on his shin. "Why?" asked the tattooist. "Cos I'm a puff 'ead in't I?", he roared. Then he went, "Woah. Head rush", and fainted. "Only blokes faint," the tattooist said. The puff 'ead couldn't stand his own humiliation and decided to project it on to the nearest female: me. "I bet I scared you, didn't I?" he said.

Women with full sleeves are common now, as in plentiful. In my day we were common as in trashy. "That's your warrior side," my female friends said. No – for my martial spirit comes from within. A few years ago I went to the Royal Free hospital to talk about removal. The doctor was unwilling. "You did a big, bold thing in getting it done," he said. "Now be big and bold in living with it."

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/10/sleeve-tattoos-hipster-habit-unartistic-art

Distilled narcissism, rejecting any semblance of self responsibility and a whine their typical tattoos not being unique any more. I have a feeling the doctors fuck off has been embellished.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on June 10, 2014, 08:07:56 PM
Quote
"You know this is permanent?" the sceptical tattooist says.

Quote
"Why?" asked the tattooist.

:allears:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Drain The Swamp And Fill It With Piss on June 16, 2014, 09:42:02 AM
Reading the article, it doesn't seem like it has a chance in hell of going through.  It's a cynical ploy to try to get more younger voters to the polls this November.

ding ding ding ding ding

it seems like more and more shit just gets pushed forward because the left knows it's going to get shot down but they can say they tried. "well, we TRIED to push forward a bill in congress to give 100k to every american but those republicans just shot it down, they want you to stay poor!"

also did anyone see the link to a fake article floating around that Obama signed into law complete student loan debt forgiveness? it was floating around my facebook feed for the last couple of days with people all excited. people that had gone to college and gotten university-endorsed intellectual enlightenment seriously believed that the president would wave his magic wand and make billions of debt just disappear.

trillion*

It bugs the shit out of me that ploys like this still work with voters - lib or conservative.  it's fucking pathetic that they can't see through it for what it is, which is an entirely meaningless gesture.  Capping the repayment rate at 10% does absolutely nothing to make school more affordable; it's smoke and mirrors designed to appear helpful.  Maybe we should be re-evaluating these degree mill schools and why people with down syndrome (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCIQyCkwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DNIbGl4G8ebk%26feature%3Dkp&ei=BfSeU-bYNY7ksASZv4GwBg&usg=AFQjCNF-Z4JTh90vb_2bRCDFlaQ4-CiC_A&sig2=N_94on8mfKKzcHVfDVh65A), like, people who are literally retarded, are going to college.

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Babomb on June 16, 2014, 06:17:37 PM
Reading the article, it doesn't seem like it has a chance in hell of going through.  It's a cynical ploy to try to get more younger voters to the polls this November.

ding ding ding ding ding

it seems like more and more shit just gets pushed forward because the left knows it's going to get shot down but they can say they tried. "well, we TRIED to push forward a bill in congress to give 100k to every american but those republicans just shot it down, they want you to stay poor!"

also did anyone see the link to a fake article floating around that Obama signed into law complete student loan debt forgiveness? it was floating around my facebook feed for the last couple of days with people all excited. people that had gone to college and gotten university-endorsed intellectual enlightenment seriously believed that the president would wave his magic wand and make billions of debt just disappear.

trillion*

It bugs the shit out of me that ploys like this still work with voters - lib or conservative.  it's fucking pathetic that they can't see through it for what it is, which is an entirely meaningless gesture.  Capping the repayment rate at 10% does absolutely nothing to make school more affordable; it's smoke and mirrors designed to appear helpful.  Maybe we should be re-evaluating these degree mill schools and why people with down syndrome (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCIQyCkwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DNIbGl4G8ebk%26feature%3Dkp&ei=BfSeU-bYNY7ksASZv4GwBg&usg=AFQjCNF-Z4JTh90vb_2bRCDFlaQ4-CiC_A&sig2=N_94on8mfKKzcHVfDVh65A), like, people who are literally retarded, are going to college.
It affects the hear and now, but has the same or even more disasterous results in the future.

That is all it is, give them all the instant gratification and bone them in the future. 

This whole generation doesn't comprehend the concept of waiting and delayed gratification. 

And with social security not going to be an option and so many people wanting to get on government benefits due to the SJW movement and PC brigade you really have to start saving now because you know the government won't help, they'll be too broke paying for all the losers who sneak onto disability for the free ride.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: LITERALLY WORSE THAN BUSH on June 16, 2014, 09:36:08 PM
Goddamn I am sick of reading about these narcissistic, ritalin snorting, "trans-queer" hormone-addled GenY fucks with more chrome in their face than a goddamn Softail lecturing people about how they want to be treated in their make-believe micro-aggression-free universes. And what special snowflakes they are. And how they are going to change the world.

I have to work down the hall from a couple of these worthless chodes.

Hey dickless, how about you learn to not go to work dressed like a homeless fucking faggot first?

These assholes make me want to seek out every WW2 veteran I can find and apologize to them for this country becoming so retarded.

I literally want to go up to WW2 vets on the street and say to them: "I'm sorry you lost 60% of your male friends by the age of 20 and crawled all the way from Normandy to Berlin with shrapnel in your neck, only to live to see this disgusting, faggot shit. I'm sorry we let you down and I hope you don't fucking hate us all. But if you do I don't blame you."



Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dr. Hatchet-Wound on June 16, 2014, 09:53:54 PM
Goddamn I am sick of reading about these narcissistic, ritalin snorting, "trans-queer" hormone-addled GenY fucks with more chrome in their face than a goddamn Softail lecturing people about how they want to be treated in their make-believe micro-aggression-free universes. And what special snowflakes they are. And how they are going to change the world.

I have to work down the hall from a couple of these worthless chodes.

Hey dickless, how about you learn to not go to work dressed like a homeless fucking faggot first?

These assholes make me want to seek out every WW2 veteran I can find and apologize to them for this country becoming so retarded.

I literally want to go up to WW2 vets on the street and say to them: "I'm sorry you lost 60% of your male friends by the age of 20 and crawled all the way from Normandy to Berlin with shrapnel in your neck, only to live to see this disgusting, faggot shit. I'm sorry we let you down and I hope you don't fucking hate us all. But if you do I don't blame you."

Top-quality postsmithing!

 :nixon:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Muh Dick on June 17, 2014, 10:24:55 AM
Not a goon, afaik.

But worth laughing at. Tumblr fat boy explores his sexuality and "looks cute":

http://red3blog.tumblr.com/post/88791677722/fatshion-whenever-june-14th-looking-cute-for-no

And it goes downhill from there:

http://red3blog.tumblr.com/post/86000253162/luciusfoxwell-red3blog-cant-help-myself

 :clint: :lolno: :hank: :putin: :lilal:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: food desert on June 17, 2014, 11:10:33 AM
Goddamn I am sick of reading about these narcissistic, ritalin snorting, "trans-queer" hormone-addled GenY fucks with more chrome in their face than a goddamn Softail lecturing people about how they want to be treated in their make-believe micro-aggression-free universes. And what special snowflakes they are. And how they are going to change the world.

I have to work down the hall from a couple of these worthless chodes.

Hey dickless, how about you learn to not go to work dressed like a homeless fucking faggot first?

These assholes make me want to seek out every WW2 veteran I can find and apologize to them for this country becoming so retarded.

I literally want to go up to WW2 vets on the street and say to them: "I'm sorry you lost 60% of your male friends by the age of 20 and crawled all the way from Normandy to Berlin with shrapnel in your neck, only to live to see this disgusting, faggot shit. I'm sorry we let you down and I hope you don't fucking hate us all. But if you do I don't blame you."

Fucking this. :reagan: :nixon:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on June 18, 2014, 07:35:34 PM
A bad sign of things to come: http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-06-18/nailing-generation-z

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mullah Omar on June 19, 2014, 09:21:39 AM
A bad sign of things to come: http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-06-18/nailing-generation-z


(http://38.media.tumblr.com/ce6900a77475db78c86002f0c9b1ab70/tumblr_n6tddjmfMB1qfnzhyo1_400.gif)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: posting ironically on June 19, 2014, 10:14:53 AM
It seems like the article tries to put a positive spin on Gen Z at the end, but fuck does it ever sound horrible.  Also had a good laugh at the bullet points at the bottom of their column of the last image, if you believe any of those are true I don't even know what to tell you:

(http://i.imgur.com/94z97kP.jpg)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: LITERALLY WORSE THAN BUSH on June 19, 2014, 10:32:44 AM
Gen Z will probably be the first generation who were almost 100% raised by the state and the SJW/PC social media hivemind. At least one of their parents is pretty likely to be absentee for one reason or another, if not both of them due to working 60 hours a week. They will probably be even more lobotomized and worthless than we think. 
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: White Power Superhero on June 19, 2014, 01:40:00 PM
None of the parents would be working at all, let alone 60 hours a week. Half of the babies will be aborted, the other half that won't be will be raised by a beta dad who gets monthly ssi checks and let the mother leave him and the child so that he can 'empower her and doesn't infringe on her right as a woman'. Also the father will be a transwoman :unparsons:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Ghostse on June 19, 2014, 01:44:48 PM
None of the parents would be working at all, let alone 60 hours a week. Half of the babies will be aborted, the other half that won't be will be raised by a beta dad who gets monthly ssi checks and let the mother leave him and the child so that he can 'empower her and doesn't infringe on her right as a woman'. Also the father will be a transwoman :unparsons:


The most depressing thing about this is that as fagged up as that future is, its still better than the future of the World-wide Caliphate.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on June 19, 2014, 02:50:45 PM
They tried to spin gen Z in a positive way but damn did they fail miserably.  I love that they said they lack situational awareness but that a lot of them want to be entrepreneurs :allears:.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: food desert on June 19, 2014, 02:54:24 PM
The Gen Z'ers with their lack of situational awareness will likely be hit by buses that were demanded by their Gen Y parents/siblings.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on June 19, 2014, 05:15:35 PM
The author of the article basically hopes that Gen Z will be the generation that makes good on the promises Gen Y laid out but never materialized.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: New Feminist Jihad on June 19, 2014, 05:27:43 PM
I also like "blended (race and gender)"
Yeah right. Barely anyone is biracial, it's not some epidemic like the media makes it out to be, and the white girls who date black guys tend to be white trash whores.
But keep on spinning that tale about "Yeah, everyone's gonna be GREY/brown/whatever in 2040!!!"
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0 on June 19, 2014, 06:10:08 PM
Well it's a lot less awefully :allears: then a lot of the stupid hagiographies of Gen Y and how they were going to take over the world and we'd better like it.

Maybe Gen X and Gen Z can get together and have a beer and mock Gen Y and the Boomers.
:clint:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: wimpb on June 20, 2014, 01:33:58 AM
(http://www.investors.com/image/WEBlabor0618_345.gif.cms)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: The Floridian on June 20, 2014, 03:48:11 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/94z97kP.jpg)

According to this Gen Z will be better in a lot of ways.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Agent of Aspieonage on June 20, 2014, 10:13:41 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/94z97kP.jpg)

According to this Gen Z will be better in a lot of ways.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2pt2-F2j2g
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: brolonium on June 21, 2014, 10:54:13 AM
You know how everyone looks back fondly on old classic cars, and even though they aren't as technologically advanced they're still able to hold their own and people find that in a lot of ways, they're better than their overly-complicated, highly-strung replacements.


Gen-X, bitches :coolmad:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OMNIPRESENT CYBERFILTH on June 21, 2014, 12:29:26 PM
Gen Z will probably be the first generation who were almost 100% raised by the state and the SJW/PC social media hivemind. At least one of their parents is pretty likely to be absentee for one reason or another, if not both of them due to working 60 hours a week. They will probably be even more lobotomized and worthless than we think.

A significant amount will have been raised by single moms, which is the ultimate statistic for permanent failure.  They'll also be growing up at the worst economic time the US has seen since the 30's.  There's going to be a core amount of realtalk shitkickers and a huge majority of useless slave laborers.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: bigperm on June 21, 2014, 12:47:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/94z97kP.jpg)

According to this Gen Z will be better in a lot of ways.

All of the good things on the Gen-Z side are things that they claimed Gen Y would be 5-10 years ago.

(http://www.investors.com/image/WEBlabor0618_345.gif.cms)

:madgoon: But, but there's NO JOBS! And who's to blame anyone who doesn't want to work when all you can get is retail or fast food???
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Slacktivist on June 21, 2014, 01:00:52 PM
Sounds like a bunch of fatter entitled idiots with fucking 33% reduced attention spans. I thought parents wanted their kids to surpass them.

Quote
They have also figured out that that the job market as GenX-ers and Y-ers understood it is not working. A whopping 61 percent of U.S. high school students want to be entrepreneurs rather than employees, compared to 43 percent for college students, who are across the generational divide. They don't just want to make money, however: Most would like to turn their hobby into a business, and 37.8 percent hope to "invent something that will change the world."

Quote
This greater entrepreneurial spirit and desire to change the world could be interpreted as signs of resilience for a generation in which 73 percent say they were personally affected by the Great Recession, or else as signs of naivete that we as parents have done little to counter. If the latter is true, the attitudes of Z-ers will suffer a reality check as they get older, messing up their early careers and creating lots of problems for employers, who will find it even harder to retain Z-ers than Y-ers.

There are a few things on which we can congratulate ourselves as parents. GenZ is the most tolerant generation ever, color-blind and unconstrained by traditional gender roles. Because of this our children are less likely to have families as we still know them, or continue any ethnic traditions to which we may still cling -- but nor will they be bigots. Also, drug and alcohol use are down dramatically among Z-ers. I like to think that's because we did a much better job than our parents telling kids about our substance experiments.

Quote
There are a few things on which we can congratulate ourselves as parents.

Because of that they "lack situational awareness, are oblivious to their surroundings and unable to give directions."

There is, however, an unexpected side effect we have to worry about: Food is the Z-er's preferred poison. These foodies are more likely than previous generations to be obese, given their sedentary lifestyle.

Proof read your articles, Leonid!

Man, both sides of that graphic are faggot incarnate with the Gen Z side given a lying marketer's fresh slobbering.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Agent of Aspieonage on June 21, 2014, 01:13:39 PM
Gen Z is setting up to be the most scammable generation yet.

TAKE MY SEMINAR FOR FINANCIAL FREEDOM TO-DAY! ONLY $5,000, RESERVE SEATS NOW.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: nerdball on June 21, 2014, 06:25:26 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/94z97kP.jpg)

According to this Gen Z will be better in a lot of ways.

All of the good things on the Gen-Z side are things that they claimed Gen Y would be 5-10 years ago.

(http://www.investors.com/image/WEBlabor0618_345.gif.cms)

:madgoon: But, but there's NO JOBS! And who's to blame anyone who doesn't want to work when all you can get is retail or fast food???

I'm a retail manager and I think Dogg will agree with me that I'd rather have a :clint: retiree who's looking for some extra bucks than the  :bieber: shitstains.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Doctor Jizzmopper on June 21, 2014, 06:53:24 PM
Gen Z will probably be the first generation who were almost 100% raised by the state and the SJW/PC social media hivemind. At least one of their parents is pretty likely to be absentee for one reason or another, if not both of them due to working 60 hours a week. They will probably be even more lobotomized and worthless than we think.

A significant amount will have been raised by single moms, which is the ultimate statistic for permanent failure.  They'll also be growing up at the worst economic time the US has seen since the 30's.  There's going to be a core amount of realtalk shitkickers and a huge majority of useless slave laborers.

Maybe we can get a metric fuckton of shocktroops out of this batch of chodes.

SSI/SDI and SNAP dries up, we could have a real fun bloodbath.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on June 21, 2014, 07:03:51 PM

"One day I hope to invent something that will change the world!"
 :say:
 :goonette:


"One day I hope to go work at that big factory down the street, open a savings account, buy my own home, get married and raise some children"
 :say:
 :clint:

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on June 21, 2014, 07:40:31 PM
Gen Z will probably be the first generation who were almost 100% raised by the state and the SJW/PC social media hivemind. At least one of their parents is pretty likely to be absentee for one reason or another, if not both of them due to working 60 hours a week. They will probably be even more lobotomized and worthless than we think.

A significant amount will have been raised by single moms, which is the ultimate statistic for permanent failure.  They'll also be growing up at the worst economic time the US has seen since the 30's.  There's going to be a core amount of realtalk shitkickers and a huge majority of useless slave laborers.

This is what I think Generation Z will be.

With the recent recession, world governments dumped trillions upon trillions of dollars to paper over everything; that was the last wad they can really shoot.  If there is another recession like 2008, very few governments are going to be able to weather the storm.  Governments in the first world will no longer be able to subsidize feminism, multiculturalism, and any other ism that is present in our pozzed society.  They won't be able to afford it, even if they wanted to.  So you'll have a huge generation of people who at first will be unable to deal with it but then over time there will be a sizable population that will adapt and thrive.  Then you have the rest, which will probably be a majority, who will keep hoping that the next election will bring back to the good old days of subsidizing people's failures and sadbrains.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: The Floridian on June 22, 2014, 01:03:40 AM
A significant amount will have been raised by single moms, which is the ultimate statistic for permanent failure.  They'll also be growing up at the worst economic time the US has seen since the 30's.  There's going to be a core amount of realtalk shitkickers and a huge majority of useless slave laborers.

Bingo. If anyone even thinks for a minute that this isn't true just look at the black community.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on June 22, 2014, 01:21:34 AM
Hahahah that Gen Z article.

Fuck I think there's a Gen Y article that's full of :christina: style smug where the faggots interviewed get all strung out about dress codes and how they'll be their own bosses one day, MAAAAN!

It takes a real fucking reach to believe that inventing retarded fucking apps with twee names like Uber or Lyft is somehow as impressive as putting a man on the fucking moon but I'm glad to see that these idiots refuse to let the dream die.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Fade to Vanilla on June 22, 2014, 07:46:08 AM

Quote
They have also figured out that that the job market as GenX-ers and Y-ers understood it is not working. A whopping 61 percent of U.S. high school students want to be entrepreneurs rather than employees, compared to 43 percent for college students, who are across the generational divide. They don't just want to make money, however: Most would like to turn their hobby into a business, and 37.8 percent hope to "invent something that will change the world."

what kind of cornball shit is this?

every generation of kids coming up has said the exact same things after hearing their parents come home and bitch about a hard day.

"i wanna be my own boss. i don't wanna work for 'the man'"
"i want a cool job, like riding bikes!"
"i wanna invent something cool so i can be rich and not have to work"

this is their big marketing-research claim? repeating the same generational wishful thinking as "the wave of the future"?

what happens after when those "new geniuses and saviors of humanity" find that inventing things is hard? that working with other people in real-life is several orders of magnitude more difficult than pressing "ignore this user" on the internet?

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This greater entrepreneurial spirit and desire to change the world could be interpreted as signs of resilience for a generation in which 73 percent say they were personally affected by the Great Recession, or else as signs of naivete that we as parents have done little to counter. If the latter is true, the attitudes of Z-ers will suffer a reality check as they get older, messing up their early careers and creating lots of problems for employers, who will find it even harder to retain Z-ers than Y-ers.

There are a few things on which we can congratulate ourselves as parents. GenZ is the most tolerant generation ever, color-blind and unconstrained by traditional gender roles. Because of this our children are less likely to have families as we still know them, or continue any ethnic traditions to which we may still cling -- but nor will they be bigots. Also, drug and alcohol use are down dramatically among Z-ers. I like to think that's because we did a much better job than our parents telling kids about our substance experiments.

i find it hard to believe that someone got paid for writing this.  these kids never suffered through anything.  their "personal" experience with the recession was lived 2nd hand through their parents who pissed and moaned since they had shit jobs and were easily replaceable.  to any hiring manager, this "resilience" and "entrepreneurial spirit" is some rose-colored glass speak for "quits at the first sign of adversity", "breadth of experience not depth of experience" and "easily replaceable"

and again, the "tolerance" of this baby-krew will last until the first punch from the real world lands. other cultures who don't give a shit about any of that will steal anything and everything from them while these hothouse flowers clutch their pearls and cluck about how "we all should be more understanding".

based on my analysis of this research, I too have a presentation but it's only one slide

(http://i.imgur.com/PIye7zA.jpg)
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: FALSE FLAG POSTING EVENT on June 22, 2014, 03:59:03 PM
Fun fact: You have to pay mexican illegal day laborers more than minimum wage, that's how tight the job market is, at least for hard workers who don't complain.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: OSI on June 22, 2014, 05:55:52 PM
Fun fact: You have to pay mexican illegal day laborers more than minimum wage, that's how tight the job market is, at least for hard workers who don't complain.

Yeah but you can't sit around in starbucks with your ironic facial hair and your shitty flip flops if you're out in the sun doing framing work.

What I'm saying is that Gen Y/Z are both the same kind of entitled faggots who are all flash and no fire.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Trump is the New Norma on June 23, 2014, 12:59:26 AM
I also like "blended (race and gender)"
Yeah right. Barely anyone is biracial, it's not some epidemic like the media makes it out to be, and the white girls who date black guys tend to be white trash whores.
But keep on spinning that tale about "Yeah, everyone's gonna be GREY/brown/whatever in 2040!!!"
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: The Floridian on June 23, 2014, 02:10:55 AM
I also like "blended (race and gender)"
Yeah right. Barely anyone is biracial, it's not some epidemic like the media makes it out to be, and the white girls who date black guys tend to be white trash whores.

Most white girls I've seen with black guys tend to be overweight/obese so its whatever.

The difference is that all of our ancestors wound up assimilating into western, US culture. I actually do believe that most Latinos and Asians will wind up assimilating as well, given 50-100 years. But as long as there's a separate "black community" with backwards behavior they're going to be marginalized for good reason.

SJWs and the left vehemently declared George Zimmerman & Elliot Rodgers as "white", so I'd say much sooner than that. Also, the left will never say nor cater to asians & latinos in general the same way they do with niggers. The darker your skin is, the more entitlements they want to give you.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on June 23, 2014, 12:43:05 PM
I also like "blended (race and gender)"
Yeah right. Barely anyone is biracial, it's not some epidemic like the media makes it out to be, and the white girls who date black guys tend to be white trash whores.
But keep on spinning that tale about "Yeah, everyone's gonna be GREY/brown/whatever in 2040!!!"
The US has already has blended the white races together. I've traced ancestors back to at least 75% of the countries in Europe. Unless your family history is very insular, a generic US "white person" is going to be a patchwork from many different countries.

The difference is that all of our ancestors wound up assimilating into western, US culture. I actually do believe that most Latinos and Asians will wind up assimilating as well, given 50-100 years. But as long as there's a separate "black community" with backwards behavior they're going to be marginalized for good reason.

This has already happened with some of them.  Most Asians and Indians are fully assimilated in two generations.  The hispanics may take a bit longer due the continual influx but it will evenually happen.  The others are essentially culturally American in just two generations.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Agent of Aspieonage on June 23, 2014, 12:49:29 PM
Most Asians and Indians are fully assimilated in two generations.  The hispanics may take a bit longer due the continual influx but it will evenually happen.  The others are essentially culturally American in just two generations.

The smart ones are anyway. Like on King of the Hill, Ted Wasonasong saying "We're methodist now. Its just good business."
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Autistic Yankee on June 23, 2014, 01:24:22 PM
Most Asians and Indians are fully assimilated in two generations.  The hispanics may take a bit longer due the continual influx but it will evenually happen.  The others are essentially culturally American in just two generations.

The smart ones are anyway. Like on King of the Hill, Ted Wasonasong saying "We're methodist now. Its just good business."

I know several 1st/2nd generation immigrants, (mostly Asians/Indians) that have nice jobs and are doing really well for themselves down in Silicon Valley.  One thing that is pretty common in all of them is the desire to assimilate.  Like many of them gave their kids American names.  It's pretty common to see "Chris" or "Steve" for a first name with "Ching Chang Chong Nahasapeemapetilon" as the last name.  A few of them actually even converted to Christianity just to fit in better.  They try really hard to lose their native accent too.  Some of these guys sound like they were born and raised in California their whole lives.

Then I see many immigrants who have horrible jobs.  Like the Mexican chick I pay to come over twice a month and clean my house for example.  She has lived in the United States for 30 years and I can barely understand a word she says.  Like literally every other sentence out of her mouth is completely unintelligible.

Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: [SWOLE]Grode Jar on June 23, 2014, 03:10:01 PM
Yeah the Indians and Asians I know who grew up here sound American, as in they have no accent beyond whatever local dialect they learned in that part of the US (my friends that I grew up with have Texan accents y'all).  A few of them either go by a western name or literally have a Western name, like Bobby.  The reason he and his brother have American names is because their dad worked for a :clint: who was a hardcore, redneck, take no shit motherfucker.  He took their dad under his wing and taught him everything he knew about how to make it in the US.  Their dad is now worth millions as a result and he named his kids American names because he knew they would have a much better chance if they had them.  One of my other friends just goes by "Pete".  The Asian guys I know who grew up here all have American names. 

I suspect that at some point, last names won't really mean anything anymore and won't be representative of ethnicity in the US at all.  Once the Asians and Indians fully assimilate and start intermarrying with whites and hispanics, ethnicity won't mean anything and names will just be names.  As it is my family history goes to so many European countries that it's pointless to track it all down and honestly I don't really give a shit because they are all full of poz now (especially my last name's country of origin, Sweden).  I'm an American and that's all I ever care to be.  Most people I know tend to feel the same way.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Ghostse on June 23, 2014, 05:00:06 PM
Big thing holding back the spics is that their homes and families, instead of being an ocean away, are just over the border. Its like how you have slants in china town who haven't assilimated because they are surrounded by their defective backwards ass culture 24/7.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Mad at the Internet on June 23, 2014, 05:52:59 PM
Big thing holding back the spics is that their homes and families, instead of being an ocean away, are just over the border. Its like how you have slants in china town who haven't assilimated because they are surrounded by their defective backwards ass culture 24/7.
Yeah, this x10. I used to wonder how some of them could be here for so long yet not have any better of a grasp of English than a fucking 3 yr old. Family and friends are more likely to be used as interpreters in cases where they absolutely have to use English. Due to massive immigration (legal and otherwise), the support structure's already in place for newly arrived border jumpers. A recent drive through the neighborhood where I grew up illustrated that point beautifully. My hometown was already close to majority spic when I graduated back in 1991 and the current demographics are solidly spic save for the roughly 10% blacks who live on the extreme west end of town, which is the same place they've always been. That place is more akin to a war zone for non-blacks whereas the other 90% of town is just little mexico with a few old white folks here and there who refuse to move because they've owned and lived in their homes for over 30 years.

A personal anecdote: my best buddy (born in the U.S. to legal mexican immigrants) is now the principal of an elementary school in our old school district. His day-to-day reality of working with those kids is every bit as dire as the statistics would lead you to believe. Kids in his school are more likely to be impoverished, malnourished, just about every other negative metric you can think of. Absentee parents and, even worse, parents who just don't give a fuck abound leaving the school district to raise their kids just because no one in the family can be arsed. I once pointedly asked him about beaner kids that don't speak ingles and I was surprised to find out that that's one issue the district aggressively pursues. One could argue that it's preposterous to have to rely on the school district to teach kids English but their goal is to get them as much help with English as possible because once the kids hit middle school, there's no such thing as ESL.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Drain The Swamp And Fill It With Piss on June 24, 2014, 01:07:45 PM

15 Things You Don’t Owe Anyone At All (Though You Think You Do) (http://www.the-open-mind.com/15-things-you-dont-owe-anyone-at-all-though-you-think-you-do/)

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Many choices we make in life—ranging from what we do, to how we conduct ourselves, and who we interact with—are subject to prying questions and commentary from those around us. Family members, friends, and even total strangers, it often seems like everyone has an opinion on the things we do, no matter how small or insignificant those things might seem to us.

Sometimes people go so far as to ask you to explain yourself for the decisions or choices you make in your own life. You might feel obliged to respond, but some things are really no one else’s business and you don’t owe anyone an explanation at all for the following 15 things—though you think you do.

1. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for your living situation.

Whether you are cohabiting with your ex-boyfriend or ex-girlfriend, crashing in different motel rooms across the country, or living with your parents for a while when you are past your twenties, you don’t have to explain yourself to anyone for who you live with and why if you don’t want to. If you are fully aware of your living situation, then it means you have your own reasons for being in that situation that are nobody else’s business.

2. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for your life priorities.

You have your own ideas about the things that would make you and your loved ones truly comfortable and happy, which is your main priority. Since we are all unique individuals with different values, dreams and aspirations, your core priorities will be different from the next person’s. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for what you determine is your core priority in life. That is your personal business not other people’s business.

3. You don’t owe anyone an apology if you are not sorry.

If you don’t regret your actions, still think someone is wrong about something or don’t care much for their forgiveness, you don’t have to apologize. Many people are too quick to offer apologies and try to mend wounds that are not yet ready to be mended, which only serves to aggravate the wound and bring more problems. You really don’t have to apologize if you are not sorry or your side of the story hasn’t been heard.

4. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for requiring alone time.

You might worry that you will come across as “rude,” “anti-social” or “aloof” when you cancel plans or other obligations because you need some time alone to reboot, unwind or just enjoy a good book by yourself. However, spending time alone is a completely normal, natural and necessary practice that more people should adopt. Take your alone time confidently because you don’t owe anybody an explanation for it.

5. You don’t owe anyone your agreement on their personal beliefs.

Just because someone shares their personal beliefs passionately doesn’t mean you have to sit there and nod in approval to everything they say. If you don’t share in their beliefs, it is unfair to yourself and to the other person to suppress your own thoughts and feelings and pretend you agree with them. It’s okay and better to disagree with them gracefully instead of bottling up your disapproval and frustrations.

6. You don’t owe anyone a yes to everything they say.

You have a right to say no whenever there is no compelling reason to say yes. In fact, the most successful people in the world are those who have mastered the art of saying no to everything that is not a priority. Acknowledge other people’s kindness and be grateful for it, but don’t be afraid to politely decline anything that takes your focus away from your core goals and priorities. That’s how to get ahead.

7. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for your physical appearance.

You might be slender, plump, tall, short, pretty, plain or whatever, but you don’t have to explain yourself to anyone for why you look how you do. Your physical appearance is your own business and you are obligated only to yourself. Physical appearance shouldn’t determine your self-worth.

8. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for your food preferences.

There are certain foods that you just don’t like at all for different reasons, including taste preference and health issues. You don’t have to explain to anyone at all why you prefer certain foods. Your food preference is a matter that is best left to you. If anyone pesters you about why you are eating (or not eating) certain foods, shrug it off and just say you feel better eating (or not eating) those foods.

9. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for your sex life.

As long as it happens with another consenting adult, you don’t owe anyone an explanation for where, when and how you conduct your sex life. You can wait for marriage, try one-night stands or experiment with same sex encounters to your heart’s pleasure and still not have to explain your sexual preferences to anybody.

10. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for your career or personal life choices.

Sometimes circumstances force us to choose between work and “having a life.” The decision is not always easy and you might end up choosing work, not because you don’t care about your family or social life, but because you are working on something that will give you security in the future. Either way, you don’t owe others an explanation for choosing a career over your personal life (or vice versa) as long as you are confident about what you are doing and why you are doing it.

11. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for your religious or political views.

Whether you are a Democrat, Republican, Catholic, Protestant or Muslim, that is your own personal choice. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for why you are what you are and believe what you believe. If someone can’t accept you for who you are, that is their personal dogma—not yours.

12. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for being single.

Whether you are single by design or by default that is nobody’s business. Being single is not a personality disorder. You are free to be in a relationship or not. Besides, you are far more than your relationship status and singlehood is just one of those social labels no one should really care about.

13. You don’t owe anyone a date just because they asked.

Someone might be nice, good looking and you may even be a little interested, but you don’t owe them a date just because they ask. If you feel deep down you don’t want to go on that date, then don’t. You may offer a reason for declining, but keep it brief and stick to your decision.

14. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for your decision about marriage.

Whether or not you choose to get married and have kids or stay unmarried and be childfree, that is your own personal decision. Even your mom who is dying for grandchildren should understand that marriage is a personal decision and not suited for everyone. She should respect your decision about it no matter how hard it is to swallow.

15. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for your relationship choices.

Sometimes people make inappropriate commentary about your romantic relationship(s), which is really none of their business. You might overhear comments like you are not the “perfect couple” or you should find someone else. However, you are not answerable to anyone but yourself for your relationship choices. Live your life and never, ever leave or stay in a relationship just because someone else says you have to. Make your own mistakes if you must, but learn from them always.

"You don't owe anyone an explanation for any of the stupid decisions you've made"
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Agent of Aspieonage on June 24, 2014, 01:16:08 PM
"You don’t owe anyone your agreement on their personal beliefs."

I think transsexuals are broken people who need therapy and I think black culture is toxic and I thi-

 :madgoon: NO NO THIS RULE DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU BIGOT I DON'T THINK SO
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 40k Scrotal Sacks on June 24, 2014, 01:21:46 PM
It's true though. You don't have to explain and justify your mistakes in front of others. You only have to explain and justify them in front of yourself and that is something most of GenY is incapable of.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: nerdball on June 24, 2014, 02:01:46 PM

15 Things You Don’t Owe Anyone At All (Though You Think You Do) (http://www.the-open-mind.com/15-things-you-dont-owe-anyone-at-all-though-you-think-you-do/)

Quote
Many choices we make in life—ranging from what we do, to how we conduct ourselves, and who we interact with—are subject to prying questions and commentary from those around us. Family members, friends, and even total strangers, it often seems like everyone has an opinion on the things we do, no matter how small or insignificant those things might seem to us.

Sometimes people go so far as to ask you to explain yourself for the decisions or choices you make in your own life. You might feel obliged to respond, but some things are really no one else’s business and you don’t owe anyone an explanation at all for the following 15 things—though you think you do.

1. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for your living situation.

Whether you are cohabiting with your ex-boyfriend or ex-girlfriend, crashing in different motel rooms across the country, or living with your parents for a while when you are past your twenties, you don’t have to explain yourself to anyone for who you live with and why if you don’t want to. If you are fully aware of your living situation, then it means you have your own reasons for being in that situation that are nobody else’s business.

2. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for your life priorities.

You have your own ideas about the things that would make you and your loved ones truly comfortable and happy, which is your main priority. Since we are all unique individuals with different values, dreams and aspirations, your core priorities will be different from the next person’s. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for what you determine is your core priority in life. That is your personal business not other people’s business.

3. You don’t owe anyone an apology if you are not sorry.

If you don’t regret your actions, still think someone is wrong about something or don’t care much for their forgiveness, you don’t have to apologize. Many people are too quick to offer apologies and try to mend wounds that are not yet ready to be mended, which only serves to aggravate the wound and bring more problems. You really don’t have to apologize if you are not sorry or your side of the story hasn’t been heard.

4. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for requiring alone time.

You might worry that you will come across as “rude,” “anti-social” or “aloof” when you cancel plans or other obligations because you need some time alone to reboot, unwind or just enjoy a good book by yourself. However, spending time alone is a completely normal, natural and necessary practice that more people should adopt. Take your alone time confidently because you don’t owe anybody an explanation for it.

5. You don’t owe anyone your agreement on their personal beliefs.

Just because someone shares their personal beliefs passionately doesn’t mean you have to sit there and nod in approval to everything they say. If you don’t share in their beliefs, it is unfair to yourself and to the other person to suppress your own thoughts and feelings and pretend you agree with them. It’s okay and better to disagree with them gracefully instead of bottling up your disapproval and frustrations.

6. You don’t owe anyone a yes to everything they say.

You have a right to say no whenever there is no compelling reason to say yes. In fact, the most successful people in the world are those who have mastered the art of saying no to everything that is not a priority. Acknowledge other people’s kindness and be grateful for it, but don’t be afraid to politely decline anything that takes your focus away from your core goals and priorities. That’s how to get ahead.

7. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for your physical appearance.

You might be slender, plump, tall, short, pretty, plain or whatever, but you don’t have to explain yourself to anyone for why you look how you do. Your physical appearance is your own business and you are obligated only to yourself. Physical appearance shouldn’t determine your self-worth.

8. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for your food preferences.

There are certain foods that you just don’t like at all for different reasons, including taste preference and health issues. You don’t have to explain to anyone at all why you prefer certain foods. Your food preference is a matter that is best left to you. If anyone pesters you about why you are eating (or not eating) certain foods, shrug it off and just say you feel better eating (or not eating) those foods.

9. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for your sex life.

As long as it happens with another consenting adult, you don’t owe anyone an explanation for where, when and how you conduct your sex life. You can wait for marriage, try one-night stands or experiment with same sex encounters to your heart’s pleasure and still not have to explain your sexual preferences to anybody.

10. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for your career or personal life choices.

Sometimes circumstances force us to choose between work and “having a life.” The decision is not always easy and you might end up choosing work, not because you don’t care about your family or social life, but because you are working on something that will give you security in the future. Either way, you don’t owe others an explanation for choosing a career over your personal life (or vice versa) as long as you are confident about what you are doing and why you are doing it.

11. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for your religious or political views.

Whether you are a Democrat, Republican, Catholic, Protestant or Muslim, that is your own personal choice. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for why you are what you are and believe what you believe. If someone can’t accept you for who you are, that is their personal dogma—not yours.

12. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for being single.

Whether you are single by design or by default that is nobody’s business. Being single is not a personality disorder. You are free to be in a relationship or not. Besides, you are far more than your relationship status and singlehood is just one of those social labels no one should really care about.

13. You don’t owe anyone a date just because they asked.

Someone might be nice, good looking and you may even be a little interested, but you don’t owe them a date just because they ask. If you feel deep down you don’t want to go on that date, then don’t. You may offer a reason for declining, but keep it brief and stick to your decision.

14. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for your decision about marriage.

Whether or not you choose to get married and have kids or stay unmarried and be childfree, that is your own personal decision. Even your mom who is dying for grandchildren should understand that marriage is a personal decision and not suited for everyone. She should respect your decision about it no matter how hard it is to swallow.

15. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for your relationship choices.

Sometimes people make inappropriate commentary about your romantic relationship(s), which is really none of their business. You might overhear comments like you are not the “perfect couple” or you should find someone else. However, you are not answerable to anyone but yourself for your relationship choices. Live your life and never, ever leave or stay in a relationship just because someone else says you have to. Make your own mistakes if you must, but learn from them always.

"You don't owe anyone an explanation for any of the stupid decisions you've made"

"15 Reasons You're Going to Die Alone"
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: unprivsplain on June 24, 2014, 02:16:25 PM
Near 100% chance that all those explanations you don't owe come up in casual conversations and aren't nearly as judgemental as they think.

"Oh yeah, why did you pick that career?"
"Don't shame me bigot!"
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: ompb on June 24, 2014, 02:35:02 PM
But you are expected to feel guilty for being a straight white male.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Drain The Swamp And Fill It With Piss on June 24, 2014, 02:46:58 PM
Near 100% chance that all those explanations you don't owe come up in casual conversations and aren't nearly as judgemental as they think.

"Oh yeah, why did you pick that career?"
"Don't shame me bigot!"

this was my first thought too. 
"Where are you living since you grad-"
"I DONT OWE YOU SHIT STOP SHAMING ME"
"But I didn't know what you were doing no-"
"YOU NEED TO RESPECT MY DECISIONS"
"But-"
"YOURE TRIGGERING ME"  :goonette:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: The Floridian on June 24, 2014, 03:47:36 PM
But you are expected to feel guilty for being a straight white male.

Yeah how did they miss this one?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Ghostse on June 24, 2014, 09:05:17 PM
YOLO BITCHES!
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: bigperm on June 24, 2014, 09:11:09 PM
Near 100% chance that all those explanations you don't owe come up in casual conversations and aren't nearly as judgemental as they think.

"Oh yeah, why did you pick that career?"
"Don't shame me bigot!"

What these faggots never realize is that if you're worried about being shamed for doing something, chances are that you shouldn't do it. Your capacity for self-reflection makes you human. 
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Trump is the New Norma on June 25, 2014, 03:28:13 AM
These insecure motherfuckers care so much
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: The Floridian on June 25, 2014, 05:17:47 AM
Who gives a fuck about being "shamed" anyway? Whether I get shamed by anyone is the absolute least of my concerns. These insecure motherfuckers care so much about what others think of them that it's really pathetic.

I know. Being "shamed" and shaming other people is a fact & part of life. Goons would understand this if they had lives to begin with.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Kill L. Nigs on June 25, 2014, 07:49:59 AM
I think it's a consequence of the "everyone is a winner" mentality that is rife in Generation Y: their life choices constantly need to be reaffirmed to bridge the gap between their actual accomplishments and the smoke that got blown up their asses about being special snowflakes.  Someone who is always improving themselves and accomplishing things is going to care a lot less about being shamed about something than some 27 year old barista with a masters degree in English Literature who is making $9 hour, lives with three other girls who are at the same station in life, and is engaged to an aging hipster who has no job but can come up with some sick burns about their local Republican congressman on his Twitter account.  They need articles pumping them up about not being total failures on a constant basis.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Got Milk? on June 25, 2014, 08:36:32 AM
What is it with the barista shit? Why are you a barista if you serve coffee at Starbucks, but not Dunkin' Donuts?
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Drain The Swamp And Fill It With Piss on June 25, 2014, 08:49:10 AM
Who gives a fuck about being "shamed" anyway? Whether I get shamed by anyone is the absolute least of my concerns. These insecure motherfuckers care so much about what others think of them that it's really pathetic.

I think it's a woman thing, and as males have become far more effeminate in the last two generations, it only makes sense that group consensus and the opinions of others becomes far more important than anything else.  If someone's trying to shame me about something, I cut them out and don't consider them friends any longer; why would you surround yourself with people who demean you?  That doesn't mean they aren't entitled to their opinion, but I don't have to listen to it.  Someone might judge me and I'll consider what they say, but I'm not sitting there losing sleep over a disagreement I had with someone.  Fuck them or work it out; the obsessing gets you literally no-where.

limp-wrised faggots gotta make sure everyone is friends because god-forbid anyone have hurt feels about another (except gay rage, then it's ok and you can't say anything because it's hate-speech).
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: LITERALLY A RAPIST on June 25, 2014, 09:04:35 AM
Who gives a fuck about being "shamed" anyway? Whether I get shamed by anyone is the absolute least of my concerns. These insecure motherfuckers care so much about what others think of them that it's really pathetic.

I think it's a woman thing, and as males have become far more effeminate in the last two generations, it only makes sense that group consensus and the opinions of others becomes far more important than anything else.  If someone's trying to shame me about something, I cut them out and don't consider them friends any longer; why would you surround yourself with people who demean you?  That doesn't mean they aren't entitled to their opinion, but I don't have to listen to it.  Someone might judge me and I'll consider what they say, but I'm not sitting there losing sleep over a disagreement I had with someone.  Fuck them or work it out; the obsessing gets you literally no-where.

limp-wrised faggots gotta make sure everyone is friends because god-forbid anyone have hurt feels about another (except gay rage, then it's ok and you can't say anything because it's hate-speech).

'shaming' by others actually probably isn't happening in any of these cases. who is actually asking these people to 'explain' their living situation or why they're fat? no one. no one says 'explain to me why you live with your boyfriend!!!'. what's really happening is that gen y feels shame for their own choices but they don't understand how they could possibly make choices they aren't proud of and think that people are just trying to bully them.

there was a list somewhere earlier in the thread about "questions you should never ask graduating college students" and it was shit like 'so do you have a job lined up after school' and other innocuous things that only get asked if someone is interested in you and how you're doing and trying to make small talk. any normal person is fine with that, and if they don't it's a slightly embarassing 'eh i'm still looking' and the conversation moves on. the only people who get offended by being asked that are women's studies majors who know their major is fucking dumb and worthless but are unable to realize it and admit they made a mistake, so they blame it on the world for making them feel bad and shaming them.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: geordash on June 25, 2014, 09:25:10 AM
What is it with the barista shit? Why are you a barista if you serve coffee at Starbucks, but not Dunkin' Donuts?

I think there's more like steam valves and things that go clickety-clack.

:jesse:
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Hashtag Activist on June 25, 2014, 10:57:42 AM
What is it with the barista shit? Why are you a barista if you serve coffee at Starbucks, but not Dunkin' Donuts?

Because you don't need a Masters of Arts in one of the Humanities to work at Dunkin Donuts.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: 40k Scrotal Sacks on June 25, 2014, 02:29:07 PM
Real baristas can make shit like this, so there's at least a bit of skill involved:

(http://i.imgur.com/Bb1APSA.jpg)

I doubt that a Starbucks or Dunkin Donuts employee can.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: SoCal Justice Warrior on June 25, 2014, 02:38:54 PM
Starbucks makes you pass some kind of test to be a certified barista i think.  You aren't one just because you started at Starbucks.  Starbucks also has decent benefits and scholarships don't they?  It's probably their way of determining who gets free prescriptions and eyeglasses and who doesn't.
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: Drain The Swamp And Fill It With Piss on June 25, 2014, 02:46:58 PM
Real baristas can make shit like this, so there's at least a bit of skill involved:

(http://i.imgur.com/Bb1APSA.jpg)

I doubt that a Starbucks or Dunkin Donuts employee can.

but i can go to college for free if i work at starbucks!!!!!
Title: Re: "I am Generation Y"
Post by: armchair nazi on June 25, 2014, 03:18:31 PM
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