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Yeah let's take people who have made scam companies in the past (like Tesla) and just assume everything is hunky dory when they claim to make technologies 10% as cheap in order to create huge headlines to drive hype.  Oh wait, it's already been done, and a company with a $1 billion dollar market cap went to 0 overnight when it was determined it was complete fraud:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-18/elizabeth-holmes-admits-theranos-technolgy-fraud-restates-voids-years-test-results

Edit, sorry $9 billion market cap.

Are you trying to say that the SpaceX rocket and tesla cars don't exist? Or that the car actually runs on gas and the SpaceX rocket is actually a 30 billion dollar rocket secretly funded by __________?
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Yeah let's take people who have made scam companies in the past (like Tesla) and just assume everything is hunky dory when they claim to make technologies 10% as cheap in order to create huge headlines to drive hype.  Oh wait, it's already been done, and a company with a $1 billion dollar market cap went to 0 overnight when it was determined it was complete fraud:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-18/elizabeth-holmes-admits-theranos-technolgy-fraud-restates-voids-years-test-results

Edit, sorry $9 billion market cap.
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SpaceX hate is pretty dumb tbh, especially coming from those on the right

I'm torn on Musk - I hate him for Tesla and the nerd worship he gets for that, but I love him for the SpaceX stuff.

His reddit brigade is goddamn annoying, but there's not any other valid criticism about SpaceX imo.

The general criticism, especially from the right, consists of complaining about the amount of r&d funding we have given SpaceX -- somewhere around $400 million total from NASA and $100m from USAF.  This is probably the best investment our govt. has made in recent history.  Its really kind of comical if you think about it.

Falcons 1 & 9 cost somewhere around $400m in r&d, NASA said a comparable rocket designed on its own would have cost $4b in r&d and would have naturally been more expensive per launch (non-reusable).

Falcon Heavy funding came from mostly, if not entirely, non-govt. sources and cost about $500 million.  The rocket costs $95m per launch and it actually works. 

Meanwhile, NASA has spent $12 billion on the Space Launch System's rocket, $24 billion on the overall program so far, and we're still not likely to see a manned mission from it until 2023.  Not to mention the SLS is going to cost at least $2 billion per year once operational for a single annual flight.  This is fucking infuriating.

ULA's Delta IV costs $350m per launch and has 1/3rd the capacity of a Falcon Heavy.  ULA's "response" to Falcon Heavy is the Vulcan, which our govt. has already sunk as much in as it did on SpaceX in total -- Vulcan will have 1/4th the capacity of Falcon Heavy, cost more per launch ($100m+), and already has had 4x Falcon Heavy's r&d spent on it.  And Vulcan isn't expected to make its initial flight until the mid-2020s now  :allears:

We've spent, relatively, almost nothing on SpaceX and in turn we've got a private company the Chinese, European, and our domestic space industry are shitting themselves over.  But dudes are still going to complain about the guy singlehandedly putting us back into space and reaching Mars because they received a small amount of r&d money from the govt (less funding than literally every other relevant competitor).


But who cares about literally wasting tens of billions on slow, inefficient, and less advanced rockets (ULA, NASA SLS) that solely exist because they send money and jobs to certain congressional districts, did you hear we spent $500m on SpaceX?

edit: I mistakenly said NASA spent $400m on Falcon 1 and 9 r&d -- NASA actually $400m for Falcon 1 and 9 and Dragon

For reference, Orion has cost us $12.5 billion since 2005 and will total around $20.4 by when it actually enters service in 2023.  Orion will also cost $1 billion per launch.  SpaceX has spent a couple hundred million on Dragon and it will cost $300 million per launch.
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He's just some Star Trek fantasizing nigger who wants to be a space captain on Mars.
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A tenth of the money would do nothing in the space race, it would take *tens* of trillions to set up even just a basic structure, maybe more.  I don't think you appreciate how much energy goes into getting a few thousand tons of metal up just out of our gravity.  The idea of taking enough to make some small facilities would be a herculean task, if we devoted half our economy just to it it would take a decade or more at least.

Over a very long period of time. It's not like you have to write a check for 10 trillion just to get the ball rolling. Read more about the various proposals that have been made for Mars colonization, most of them are very reasonable in terms of cost. As for getting into orbit, the price per kg into orbit has been steadily coming down just with better optimized rockets. I hope we will get more advanced methods in the future like beamed propulsion or mass drivers.

Everyone knows getting into space and beyod is expensive. But we must do it, if we want to survive.

Who the fuck says that besides idiots?  And you're basing all this stuff off "hope we will get more advanced methods in the future".  Sounds exactly like retards who think we should all be using solar for energy despite the fact it will be decades minimum before that's even moderately feasible.  Because "eventually oil will run out!"  You know, that's a hell of a lot more of a pressing need than something we will need in thousands of years.

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So what is your suggestion? Do nothing because it's dangerous, expensive and complicated? With that kind of mentality you wouldn't have United States. If humankind doesn't expand into space it dies out sooner rather than later. It's not a question of if, but when.

This is another loaded (and thus retarded) question.  "3D printing will eventually let children make guns at home that they can download off the internet, when are we going to regulate it?"  Like anything else, at the proper time when we can make cogent decisions, which is not now. 

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On the contrary, we can predict it rather well. Most people think we have hundreds of millions of years, if not a billion years until the photosynthesis stops, the oceans evoporate and the Sun becomes too hot to handle.

250 000 - 450 000 years from know, a star called Hipparcos 85605 might pass as close as 0.13 ly from the Sun. The star's path will mean it will dislodge a fuckton of comets, asteroids and dwarf planets from the Oort cloud and send them towards us to the inner Solar system.

In 1.35 million years, Gliese 710 will pass us by very close (perhaps as close as 0.2 ly), by some calculations close enough to affect Kuiper belt objects and knock them off their orbits in our direction.

What we need by that time is for our eggs not to be all in the same basket (Earth), or alternatively we need a fleet of spacehsips with literal doomsday weapons to fight the oncoming wave of planetary bodies hell-bent on our destruction.

I have to hope you're trolling at this point.  If you're going to think 6 digits of years into the future, the magnetic poles swapping and massive volcanoes destroying agriculture worldwide with pollution are much much more common events, and any of them are still measured in the tens of thousands of years, and neither of them will end all life.  If you honestly buy into any of the colonizing Mars stuff, you need to lay off the Kool-aid.
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You sound like you're speaking from experience there, that, and that fact that you're talking about events that will take place so far in the future that humans, if they exist at that time (which they probably won't), will be unrecognizable as human...which is just fucking stupid.

"We might not be even alive at that time, so why bother?"


There's no 'might' about it. You may as well start making plans for the heat death of the universe while you're at it.
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It's funny watching you try to be academic when you clearly don't have the capacity for it. Nearly as funny as watching you try to land a sick burn.
Luckily for me, the opinions of retarded faggots on internet message boards isn't exactly at the top of my list of things to be concerned about.
You're getting very angry over someone calling out your retarded comments. Looking at the two stars you mentioned, it looks like one of them is actually farther out than first though, and the other is estimated to only increase cratering rate by 5%...
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If you're representative of your people, then it's no wonder Estonia is a backwater Russian shithole trying to be European, and your women travel abroad to fuck people like me...

So you claim there are women that travel to other countries just to have sexual intercourse with you?


 :rolleyes:
Met plenty of Estonian girls over here, and they have all left to make a better life for themselves. Not one of them has a good thing to say about that little gnat of a country other than 'it's got nice nature'. They are quite critical of Estonian men, labeling them as manchildren, alcoholics, stupid, or just plan cucks. I presume you're all four.
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Quadruple Nigger is too generous.

It's niggers all the way down.
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Goon Acres / Re: Suggested usernames for incoming users
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Space is gay as fuck outside of things we've already mastered like satellites/telescopes/rovers but there's no getting through to the generations of nerds that were jew brainwashed into thinking they could be galactic cowboys if only we'd spend hundreds of trillions of shekels.

How about we spend a tiny fraction of that money to genocide the billions of subhumans in Asia so we don't have to worry about the Earth becoming uninhabitable?
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the more people learn that their information is being protected by the Brianna Wus of the world rather than the Sheldon Coopers, the better.

I'm gonna go with the one with the higher test levels and a little jewboy bazooper faggot aint it.
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