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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #250 on: October 29, 2016, 05:32:49 AM »
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So your arguement for a higher power is that you're sexually attracted to individuals/features as determined entirely by biological impulses buried deep into the most basic and ancient parts of your lizard brain? That's like, I don't know, showing a picture of a cute puppy and saying "Why do I find this so adorable, it must be a higher power working towards good and love", and completely ignore that the only reason you find puppies cute is because you are also a fucking warm-blooded mammal that shares a lot of physical features and behavioural traits with them. The same reason most people feel sad when they see a seal with big melty wet eyes getting the shit clubbed out of it, as opposed to a hissing, venemous snake. Is one of these animal's lives worth more than the other in God's eyes, just because of the way they are perceived by people?

Also there are many animals that have ceased to evolve, staying in niches that have remained stable for centuries. Then there's the many, many species that evolved themselves into a dead-end. I don't see evolution as a constant positive, it's merely the reaction of organisms to their environment, it can easily fuck up. The tactic of life seems to be more scattered shotgun blast than incisive scalpel surgery. Throw a bunch of shit at the wall and see what sticks. Granted, I may just be a lowly dumb human that cannot possibly perceive the Great Plan and there's a clear logic or order or justice behind it all, but if so it is beyond me.


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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #251 on: October 29, 2016, 08:48:32 AM »
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Kek is real, no more debate plz

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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #252 on: October 29, 2016, 07:48:13 PM »
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Every night, I pray to Kek.

Kek is love.

Kek is life.

It's toadily over now.

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« Reply #253 on: December 19, 2016, 04:55:11 AM »
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This same principle also applies to liberals due to their extremely low birth rates

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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #254 on: December 30, 2016, 12:02:30 AM »
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Generally I ascribe to the philosophy that religion and science, properly expressed, are different sides of the same coin.  Each attempting to explain and illuminate human experience and perception, one quantifiable, the other not.  A spiritual experience is not any more or less "real" to the individual than some law of nature, at least insofar as it happened and was perceived.

Each facet of human experience should work in tandem, emboldening and strenthenong the other.  Any conflict between the two is a lack of knowledge or understanding about one, the other, or both.

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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #255 on: December 30, 2016, 05:30:00 AM »
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Generally I ascribe to the philosophy that religion and science, properly expressed, are different sides of the same coin.  Each attempting to explain and illuminate human experience and perception, one quantifiable, the other not.  A spiritual experience is not any more or less "real" to the individual than some law of nature, at least insofar as it happened and was perceived.

Each facet of human experience should work in tandem, emboldening and strenthenong the other.  Any conflict between the two is a lack of knowledge or understanding about one, the other, or both.

That is an excellent way to put it, dear sir.
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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #256 on: February 08, 2017, 12:20:44 AM »
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Generally I ascribe to the philosophy that religion and science, properly expressed, are different sides of the same coin.  Each attempting to explain and illuminate human experience and perception, one quantifiable, the other not.  A spiritual experience is not any more or less "real" to the individual than some law of nature, at least insofar as it happened and was perceived.

Each facet of human experience should work in tandem, emboldening and strenthenong the other.  Any conflict between the two is a lack of knowledge or understanding about one, the other, or both.

Why is it that knowing that a sunset is electromagnetic radiation doesn't add to its beauty for so many people? Why did the culture take the complete opposite path one should take? That I am a complex network of what, in a lab, is just liquids and shit sitting deaf, dumb, and mute in a test tube, why doesn't this make life more awe-inspiring? Why does the fact we occupy such an infinitesimal part of the universe not make life more precious? Why isn't the proof of a higher power existence itself? Where does it say we need to have galaxy cluster-spanning empires for life to Officially Count? Your post is totally sane and reasonable to me and a conclusion 99% of people who have lived even just a smidge should easily arrive at by themselves. But it seems they don't. No one really cares. Oh well.


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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #257 on: February 08, 2017, 09:06:37 AM »
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Generally I ascribe to the philosophy that religion and science, properly expressed, are different sides of the same coin.  Each attempting to explain and illuminate human experience and perception, one quantifiable, the other not.  A spiritual experience is not any more or less "real" to the individual than some law of nature, at least insofar as it happened and was perceived.

Each facet of human experience should work in tandem, emboldening and strenthenong the other.  Any conflict between the two is a lack of knowledge or understanding about one, the other, or both.

Why is it that knowing that a sunset is electromagnetic radiation doesn't add to its beauty for so many people? Why did the culture take the complete opposite path one should take?

Because you get rid of the 'mystery.' Once you remove that, a lot people get bored and lose interest in shit pretty quick.
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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #258 on: February 08, 2017, 09:29:27 AM »
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Because you get rid of the 'mystery.' Once you remove that, a lot people get bored and lose interest in shit pretty quick.

The truth is that there is another mystery behind the one you just solved. We are as close to understanding the Universe around as an ant colony is to building another Empire State Building. People tend to be lazy. Thinking and reading about the Universe and its secrets requires a lot a attention, time and imagination.
But I do often point out that I write both science fiction and fantasy. It’s just that the science fiction is usually titled ‘technical proposal’ and the fantasy is titled ‘budget proposal.’

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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #259 on: February 08, 2017, 09:49:08 AM »
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Generally I ascribe to the philosophy that religion and science, properly expressed, are different sides of the same coin.  Each attempting to explain and illuminate human experience and perception, one quantifiable, the other not.  A spiritual experience is not any more or less "real" to the individual than some law of nature, at least insofar as it happened and was perceived.

Each facet of human experience should work in tandem, emboldening and strenthenong the other.  Any conflict between the two is a lack of knowledge or understanding about one, the other, or both.

Why is it that knowing that a sunset is electromagnetic radiation doesn't add to its beauty for so many people? Why did the culture take the complete opposite path one should take?

Because you get rid of the 'mystery.' Once you remove that, a lot people get bored and lose interest in shit pretty quick.

It really is a language issue. We don't know what matter is in itself. "Wave-like excitations of a background field" and "frozen spirit" are both valid descriptions (if we define spirit as that field from which matter and energy inexplicably emerged). You're right that's what's going on, but it's just a shame.


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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #260 on: February 08, 2017, 10:08:28 AM »
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Generally I ascribe to the philosophy that religion and science, properly expressed, are different sides of the same coin.  Each attempting to explain and illuminate human experience and perception, one quantifiable, the other not.  A spiritual experience is not any more or less "real" to the individual than some law of nature, at least insofar as it happened and was perceived.

Each facet of human experience should work in tandem, emboldening and strenthenong the other.  Any conflict between the two is a lack of knowledge or understanding about one, the other, or both.

Why is it that knowing that a sunset is electromagnetic radiation doesn't add to its beauty for so many people? Why did the culture take the complete opposite path one should take? That I am a complex network of what, in a lab, is just liquids and shit sitting deaf, dumb, and mute in a test tube, why doesn't this make life more awe-inspiring? Why does the fact we occupy such an infinitesimal part of the universe not make life more precious? Why isn't the proof of a higher power existence itself? Where does it say we need to have galaxy cluster-spanning empires for life to Officially Count? Your post is totally sane and reasonable to me and a conclusion 99% of people who have lived even just a smidge should easily arrive at by themselves. But it seems they don't. No one really cares. Oh well.

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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #261 on: February 08, 2017, 03:14:45 PM »
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I find the history of science and religion both fascinating and atheists who try to evangelize the former and trash the latter are tremendous faggots hth

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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #262 on: February 15, 2017, 12:49:20 AM »
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You can tell the Bible is bullshit because no benevolent cosmic power would look at the Jews and say, "Yeah, those guys. They're definitely my favorite."

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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #263 on: February 15, 2017, 01:06:42 AM »
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You can tell the Bible is bullshit because no benevolent cosmic power would look at the Jews and say, "Yeah, those guys. They're definitely my favorite."

You know how you have that one really old friend who used to be super cool back in the day, but they started to change and now they aren't cool anymore, but you've been down together for so long?
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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #264 on: February 15, 2017, 04:21:22 PM »
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You can tell the Bible is bullshit because no benevolent cosmic power would look at the Jews and say, "Yeah, those guys. They're definitely my favorite."

You know how you have that one really old friend who used to be super cool back in the day, but they started to change and now they aren't cool anymore, but you've been down together for so long?

That and the current Jews are kinda the Israelite equivalent of every white Euro mutt American who says LOL I'M IRISH on St. Patrick's Day.
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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #265 on: February 20, 2017, 02:30:45 PM »
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I saw on Reddit of all places an amazing summary of modern Atheism: "There is no God, and I hate him."
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« Reply #266 on: February 20, 2017, 02:36:42 PM »
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Which is just a modern variant on "God doesn't exist, the bastard."

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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #267 on: February 21, 2017, 04:56:34 AM »
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You can tell the Bible is bullshit because no benevolent cosmic power would look at the Jews and say, "Yeah, those guys. They're definitely my favorite."

It's more like God said from day one to the Jews in the Old Testament:

"Do what I say, you'll be blessed. I'm only handing this out to you guys and possibly to any non-Jews you happen to convince to jump onboard, but they have to do everything you do full-tilt in my Name. Screw this up, and I'll will make you all regret it."

The Jews proceeded to repeatedly fuck up a sure deal like the average Goon until the New Testament rolled around and he changed his mind to:

"Well, since the Jews screwed me over to the point they killed my earthly form and I still decided to be really nice about it, I'm gonna let anyone who wants salvation join in, and I'm even lowering the bar to the point they can't claim to be the only ones worth my attention anymore"
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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #268 on: March 14, 2017, 11:43:41 AM »
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I saw on Reddit of all places an amazing summary of modern Atheism: "There is no God, and I hate him."

God is the ur-authority that sanctions all authority. Modern atheism isn't a cunthair above NO YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP DA-- CATHOLIC CHURCH and don't you forget it. Morality is having to eat your veggies and hell is timeout.


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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #269 on: April 03, 2017, 07:00:52 PM »
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« Reply #270 on: April 04, 2017, 08:17:17 AM »
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Pastors/I love cock more thanCatholicsdoes of all colors have abused the faith for monetary gain since the very beginning.  However there is something just a little extra  :tom: about this idiot

Probably could have stayed under the radar with a a Bentley for himself, Range Rover for baby mamma, lived in a 1 million dollar home and maybe taken a Uber or hit up Enterprise for a rental, once in a while. Limit Louis/Versace shopping sprees to once a year. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

I'll treat myself to booze, steak and a nice hotel on the company's dime, when I travel, but it's not blue label, real Japanese kobe and a presidential suite.

I'm sure he could have gotten away with living like a rockstar on churchbux, but nope! Dude wants to live like 3 rockstars 2 rappers and an A-list actor.
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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #271 on: May 22, 2017, 08:58:15 AM »
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You can tell the Bible is bullshit because no benevolent cosmic power would look at the Jews and say, "Yeah, those guys. They're definitely my favorite."

It's more like God said from day one to the Jews in the Old Testament:

"Do what I say, you'll be blessed. I'm only handing this out to you guys and possibly to any non-Jews you happen to convince to jump onboard, but they have to do everything you do full-tilt in my Name. Screw this up, and I'll will make you all regret it."

The Jews proceeded to repeatedly fuck up a sure deal like the average Goon until the New Testament rolled around and he changed his mind to:

"Well, since the Jews screwed me over to the point they killed my earthly form and I still decided to be really nice about it, I'm gonna let anyone who wants salvation join in, and I'm even lowering the bar to the point they can't claim to be the only ones worth my attention anymore"

Reminder that Jews which God literally freed from slavery with actual plagues from the sky took all of a few months to go right back to worshiping idols and having sex orgies. Fuckers literally saw God chilling with Moses on Sinai and decided "eh fuck it, we'll do what we want!"

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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #272 on: May 23, 2017, 08:49:23 PM »
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You can tell the Bible is bullshit because no benevolent cosmic power would look at the Jews and say, "Yeah, those guys. They're definitely my favorite."

It's more like God said from day one to the Jews in the Old Testament:

"Do what I say, you'll be blessed. I'm only handing this out to you guys and possibly to any non-Jews you happen to convince to jump onboard, but they have to do everything you do full-tilt in my Name. Screw this up, and I'll will make you all regret it."

The Jews proceeded to repeatedly fuck up a sure deal like the average Goon until the New Testament rolled around and he changed his mind to:

"Well, since the Jews screwed me over to the point they killed my earthly form and I still decided to be really nice about it, I'm gonna let anyone who wants salvation join in, and I'm even lowering the bar to the point they can't claim to be the only ones worth my attention anymore"

Reminder that Jews which God literally freed from slavery with actual plagues from the sky took all of a few months to go right back to worshiping idols and having sex orgies. Fuckers literally saw God chilling with Moses on Sinai and decided "eh fuck it, we'll do what we want!"

Before that they were Jewing it up by complaining about bread falling from the sky that kept them from starving to death, saying how they were just bored of it and wanted some meat.
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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #273 on: September 05, 2017, 04:41:54 PM »
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Something to think about in these times, from Luke 21:


5 Some of his disciples were remarking about how the temple was adorned with beautiful stones and with gifts dedicated to God. But Jesus said, 6 “As for what you see here, the time will come when not one stone will be left on another; every one of them will be thrown down.”

7 “Teacher,” they asked, “when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?”

8 He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them. 9 When you hear of wars and uprisings, do not be frightened. These things must happen first, but the end will not come right away.”

10 Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. 11 There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.

12 “But before all this, they will seize you and persecute you. They will hand you over to (({synagogues})) and put you in prison, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of my name. 13 And so you will bear testimony to me. 14 But make up your mind not to worry beforehand how you will defend yourselves. 15 For I will give you words and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict. 16 You will be betrayed even by parents, brothers and sisters, relatives and friends, [sever-Eds.] and they will put some of you to death. 17 Everyone will hate you because of me. 18 But not a hair of your head will perish. 19 Stand firm, and you will win life.

20 “When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. 22 For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. 23 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. 24 They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. [You guys should be happy about this.]

25 “There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars [eclipse]. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea [Irma]. 26 People will faint from terror [reeeeeeeeeeeeee], apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27 At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

29 He told them this parable: “Look at the fig tree and all the trees. 30 When they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near. 31 Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near.

32 “Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

34 “Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you suddenly like a trap. 35 For it will come on all those who live on the face of the whole earth. 36 Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.”

37 Each day Jesus was teaching at the temple, and each evening he went out to spend the night on the hill called the Mount of Olives, 38 and all the people came early in the morning to hear him at the temple.
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Re: All-purpose religious argument clusterfuck thread
« Reply #274 on: September 05, 2017, 04:51:48 PM »
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This is a good examination. She lets him hang himself, though I guess it's kind of an easy job. He is, of course, wrong that he doesn't get taxed on his Louis Vitton clothing. But it's not her place to correct him on the law. It's her place to just keep asking him questions and use his testimony against him later.
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