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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7350 on: November 23, 2017, 03:54:01 PM »
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can someone explain why Trump is allowing the FCC to repeal net neutrality when the companies that stand to gain from the change are Time Warner (which owns CNN) and Comcast (which owns MSNBC), and literally everyone else stands to get fucked? What am I missing?

http://www.dailywire.com/news/18613/7-reasons-net-neutrality-idiotic-aaron-bandler

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7351 on: November 23, 2017, 04:26:07 PM »
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I think my main problem with this is that very few people have true options for internet. Like that article said if they limited a website. My options in a large city are 100mbit cable or 10mbit DSL (if it's even that fast).

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7352 on: November 23, 2017, 04:30:18 PM »
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With smartphones, the idea of there's only a single internet provider in your area is laughable.

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7353 on: November 23, 2017, 04:37:36 PM »
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With smartphones, the idea of there's only a single internet provider in your area is laughable.
That's a really retarded opinion

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7354 on: November 23, 2017, 04:40:01 PM »
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With smartphones, the idea of there's only a single internet provider in your area is laughable.
That's a really retarded opinion

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7355 on: November 23, 2017, 05:17:07 PM »
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The meme that tech companies support net neutrality therefore we must be against it is hilarious, because the tech companies like FB and TWTR are 100% full of shit. They have to support net neutrality or else all of their engineers would quit. Secretly, removal of net neutrality would be a huge benefit for them: as soon as they start seeing competitors, they can send piles of cash to ISPs in order to make it so consumers get free internet service that can only access their sites.

Facebook is meanwhile building a completely non-neutral, censored, and centralized network called Internet.org (the balls to call it that show just how little Zuckerberg gives a fuck) and trying to plant seeds in countries that don't have Internet access yet so he can control the entire thing. Zuckerberg's "support" of net neutrality is a gigantic farce, the doublespeak just ensures he stays just enough on the side of the line that keep his engineers (who mindlessly continue to build his surveilance machine) from walking out the door.


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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7356 on: November 23, 2017, 05:23:32 PM »
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can someone explain why Trump is allowing the FCC to repeal net neutrality when the companies that stand to gain from the change are Time Warner (which owns CNN) and Comcast (which owns MSNBC), and literally everyone else stands to get fucked? What am I missing?

There is a lot of [[[BULLSHIT]]] going on behind NN. First, years ago I hadn't heard anything about it until people went crazy over some clown in charge at the FCC threatening to kill the internet. Of course it died down when the Chimpanzee in Chief did something here and there and wham! he officially saved the internet, of course people are idiots and didn't realize that Obongo appointed the fucker who started the shitstorm in the first place. Second, there was the weird propaganda about it, It doesn't make sense a guy like CURRENT YEAR MAN making people aware of the e-apocalypse while his boss Time Warner happened to own an ISP that would benefit from such change. Third, those companies like Google and Faceberg who larp about "muh free speech" are fucking hypocrites, videos getting demonetized and getting suspended for wrongthink posts anyone?. Last, is the word "net neutrality" itself, it sounds like a buzzword the government creates to sell you something, example: "patriot act". From my take, it's a corporate tug o war and either way the outcome, you're fucked.

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7357 on: November 23, 2017, 05:46:33 PM »
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Third, those companies like Google and Faceberg who larp about "muh free speech" are fucking hypocrites, videos getting demonetized and getting suspended for wrongthink posts anyone?
individual tech engineer employees are almost universally in favor of net neutrality, regardless of if they are libertarian closet Trump supporters (20% of Palo Alto voted Trump) or SJWs because net neutrality makes it so that Comcast, Verizon, Facebook, Google, and others can't fuck people who want to create new sites and apps on the web. it's like the one thing that has almost all people who benefit from the Internet agreeing (not 100% of course, but close) regardless of their political leanings.

tech execs are publically in favor of net neutrality because nearly all of their employees are, and many of them would very realistically quit if their CEO came out against it. however, secretly they are all for removing it, as long as it benefits them. Facebook for example would absolutely love it if they could just pay ISPs to give away Facebook access for free and block the rest of the Internet. The rubes who work for Zuckerberg secretly know this but have cognitive dissonance because they get to work on cool computer problems for him.
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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7358 on: November 23, 2017, 05:47:11 PM »
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pro-NN people make some good arguments. there's good arguments on both sides. the problem is, pro-NN people are completely misdirected and kind of retarded. autist industry people have very valid reasons to be pro NN, i mean the general normie public on this one.

all the fears they have are real, and net neutrality won't do shit about it. the whole issue is a distraction to placate the masses when what they really should be calling for is a breakup of the regional telco monopolies.

remember when you could get 40 different ISP's to service your address and internet connections of about the same speed used to cost $30 a month instead of $70? this change happened in 2015 with chimp president's NN laws.

back then i had ISP's try to mess with me because I was hosting edgy websites using my internet connection, or downloaded too much porn. and when that happened i would call one of the 39 other ISP's that serviced my address. i'm living in the same area i did back then again, and i have only 1 ISP to choose from (can't even do a dish here)
i'm not rural either, i'm walking distance to multiple corporate HQ's of some of the biggest tech companies in the world.

very few services (jewflix, jewtube) make up the majority of bandwidth traffic on the internet currently, and because of these net neutrality laws you as a consumer are forced to subsidize the cost of these websites traffic into your internet bill already, in a socialized manner. by treating them as public utilities in a legal sense, they're very unfairly advantaged against their competitors. what reddit plebs don't realize is: you're already paying for this shit, whether you use it or not. that's why your internet connection costs twice as much as it did a couple years ago & is probably slower to boot.

redditors also think that net neutrality will bring more competition to the world of ISP's, because they're mouth breathing retards. i keep seeing the "i can only get 1 ISP at my address we need net neutrality" and every single time i read that i can't help but think they discovered the internet after 201*.

a seldom discussed point is also the impact of NN laws on the placement of authority over content on the internet. not only would having the FCC police the internet be bad (look at the state of radio) but hey, good luck ever getting those lazy cunts to go after the monopolies and trust bust when they're bogged down making sure your uncle's facebook status update isn't too racist. just LOL if you think for profit companies like comcast would have the same resources or impetus to scan the internet for wrongthink, when they spend decades ignoring everything that didn't come in the mail with a court order when they did hold such authority.

the "youtube netflix subscription package" meme is probably real. that could very well happen. what the chinese shill botnet accounts currently spamming reddit with upvotes won't tell you is, the base price of your internet connection before those packages will be lower. you may have to pay $5 a month to your ISP for premium jewish entertainment, but your connection's base price isn't going to be the same as it is today because all of those "subscriptions" are already baked into your bill through subsidization of their traffic costs. when youtube and netflix don't pay for their bandwidth, the ISP doesn't just go "welp time to give up on trying to turn a profit" they up their prices.

reddit plebs are retarded. NN is ideologically good and functionally bad. the only people who serve to benefit from NN are netflix and google shareholders (namely soros, hence the massive social media campaign)
trust busting is what the consumer actually wants.

none of these plebs even knew the early internet.
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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7359 on: November 23, 2017, 05:51:53 PM »
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reddit plebs are retarded. NN is ideologically good and functionally bad. the only people who serve to benefit from the NN regulations repealed are netflix and google shareholders (namely soros, hence the massive social media campaign)
trust busting is what the consumer actually wants.
this is a fair PoV. i think the problem is that the "video consumes a lot of bandwidth" problem seems to be motivating changes (or removal of) regulation that can very well affect the viability of free speech. if legistators and the FCC were smart they'd come up with rules to deal with the massive difference of bandwidth usage between various forms of media that use the Internet, while not giving ISPs the room they need to do fucked up shit like accept piles of cash from Twitter to slow down Gab and Mastodon nodes.

the nightmare scenario for me is if basically in 5 years if all the plebes are using free internet service plans subsidized by Zuckerberg that basically limit the internet to Facebook-approved sites. This is exactly what they are doing in the third world with Internet.org. Facebook is fucking evil. Cuckservatives will defend that once its the status quo because of muh free market but that reality would have, for example, prevented Trump from winning because the masses would be mostly consuming fake news.
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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7360 on: November 23, 2017, 05:58:44 PM »
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the nightmare scenario for me is if basically in 5 years if all the plebes are using free internet service plans subsidized by Zuckerberg that basically limit the internet to Facebook-approved sites. This is exactly what they are doing in the third world with Internet.org. Facebook is fucking evil. Cuckservatives will defend that once its the status quo because of muh free market but that reality would have, for example, prevented Trump from winning because the masses would be mostly consuming fake news.

i'm honestly fine with that. i've been saying for almost a decade now that at some point the global internet is going to fracture into multiple internets. china and others have already been working on it. i'm fine with the normiesphere diverging; there weren't many niggers on efnet.

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7361 on: November 23, 2017, 06:02:31 PM »
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i'm honestly fine with that. i've been saying for almost a decade now that at some point the global internet is going to fracture into multiple internets. i'm fine with the normiesphere diverging; there weren't many niggers on efnet.
maybe its inevitable but if that happens it's going to be much harder or arguably impossible to deliver mass redpills.

IOW, pantsshitters may want to get behind net neutrality because unless like you said the bigcos are broken up it acts as a hedge against clownworld media.

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7362 on: November 23, 2017, 06:14:53 PM »
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i'm honestly fine with that. i've been saying for almost a decade now that at some point the global internet is going to fracture into multiple internets. i'm fine with the normiesphere diverging; there weren't many niggers on efnet.
maybe its inevitable but if that happens it's going to be much harder or arguably impossible to deliver mass redpills.

IOW, pantsshitters may want to get behind net neutrality because unless like you said the bigcos are broken up it acts as a hedge against clownworld media.

it does in the short term, but the authority to govern content goes /somewhere/ and people seem to be ignoring that the fed has a much longer history of being incredibly invasive with their use of censorship, meanwhile all the fearmongering around ISP's doing the same is mostly speculation.

i totally think ISP's will be on board with the clownworld, and in the short term getting rid of NN without breaking the ISP's up is a very bad thing from a censorship POV, but i think there are unconsidered long term issues with giving the FCC the ability to do that in the long run. all it would take is 1 bad appointment from 1 democrat president, or a slight expansion of hate speech laws for us to run into the same worst case scenario reddit is claiming will happen if we give ISP's the authority.

if you're asked to decide if power over censorship should be given to the fed or comcast, you're already being fucked from many more angles than the one you're staring in the face. there should never be one private company with absolute control over providing access to the internet in large regions of the usa in the first place.

breaking up the monopolies and introducing actual capitalism to that system (impossible with NN laws) will lead to the consumer's wishes dictating the level of censorship done by ISP's, and from the sounds of it not very many consumers want any censorship outside of CP and malware. for fear of sounding like a libertardian, the free market would solve that problem, if the telco's weren't a massive monopoly.

that or, at some point we probably need a free speech on the internet constitutional amendment. problem solved.

really, this NN debate is a lose-lose. there's a good chance we as the consumers get fucked either way it goes. the ass fucking started ever since these laws were introduced in 2015. they have us all misdirected from the real issues, and this is only a hot topic right now because reddit is being spammed by upvote botnets.
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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7363 on: November 23, 2017, 07:06:55 PM »
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very few services (jewflix, jewtube) make up the majority of bandwidth traffic on the internet currently, and because of these net neutrality laws you as a consumer are forced to subsidize the cost of these websites traffic into your internet bill already, in a socialized manner. by treating them as public utilities in a legal sense, they're very unfairly advantaged against their competitors. what reddit plebs don't realize is: you're already paying for this shit, whether you use it or not. that's why your internet connection costs twice as much as it did a couple years ago & is probably slower to boot.

1) Internet connection prices haven't gone up outside of the USA.

2) Jewflix / Jewtube are already paying for their massive traffic. On their own end, as they should.

3) Any aspiring competitor against Jewflix / Jewtube would have similar bandwidth needs. If J / J were able to negotiate special delivery deals with ISPs, their position would go from "disturbingly entrenched" to "eternal golden throne of shekels".

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7364 on: November 23, 2017, 07:30:45 PM »
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I 100% expect there to be some kind of Facebook ISP within 2-3 years that lets you get Facebook (and other approved Mark Zuckerberg Properties) for free and you pay to unlock the rest of the internet. It would be stupid for them to not do so. It probably won't have their name on it, they are experts at avoiding putting their name on shit they own and control in the interest of avoiding nerd outrage, see also: Instagram, Oculus, Whatsapp, Internet.org, etc. It will probably have some hip cool branding that will give people just enough moral cover to indulge in cheap, fast internet service that funds global censorship.

Everyone who works for Facebook under the banner of one of the other products they bought will always use that name when you ask where they work. That is all by design, it helps ensure the congnitive dissonance stays intact to keep those people from thinking too hard about the fact they are building Zuck's gigantic surveillance machine that will be used to control global human communication and thought.

It's going to be truly a sight for the world to behold his "fully operational battle station" being flipped on when he finally decides to run for president. The hilarity of watching them scramble to point fingers at Russia daring to use their thought control weapon to try to swing an election before they had the chance to is gold. That shit is working as intended, if anything Russia getting detected gave them a great test to suss out where they need to tighten shit up so they can cover their tracks better when the time comes to use it themselves.
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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7365 on: November 23, 2017, 07:55:52 PM »
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1) Internet connection prices haven't gone up outside of the USA.

thanks for the evidence in support of my statement that the 2015 NN decision increased the cost of internet in the US

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2) Jewflix / Jewtube are already paying for their massive traffic. On their own end, as they should.

yes, and part of your cable bill is paying for that one neighbor who downloads 9TB of HD porn while streaming 9 separate jewflix videos 24/7 which is how these companies are allowed to be so anti-competitive.

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3) Any aspiring competitor against Jewflix / Jewtube would have similar bandwidth needs. If J / J were able to negotiate special delivery deals with ISPs, their position would go from "disturbingly entrenched" to "eternal golden throne of shekels".

traffic throttling neutrality isn't the real issue, unless you've been drinking the shill kool and and you actually believe there's going to be $100 tiered internet plans. you'd think after obamacare people would be more keen to the typical tricks.

the real issue at hand is giving authority of censorship to either the ISP's or FCC. i think that giving this authority to the fed is bad, and would be a step toward the USA becoming more like europe when it comes to online free speech rights. I don't know if you're american or european, but if you're a eurofag just please don't post about NN; the last thing america needs is more "european" online censorship.

again, if you think you have to decide between giving this authority to the fed or 1 private monopoly owned by kikes you're playing a loaded game to begin with. that's what this NN shit is. a game of poker where everyone's hands at the table are pre-stacked against the consumer. there should be no ISP monopoly in the first place. in a healthy economy, the ISP that tries that $10.99 a month cnn shit loses all its subscribers to the one that doesn't. people will not pay more than they value the content or service.

the absolute worst that comes of ISP censorship is that the "free speech" sphere diverges into its own intranet(s) and things become more like 1998 back when there weren't a whole lot of nonwhites and bulldykes around to get outraged over all the fun we were having.
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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7366 on: November 24, 2017, 12:57:43 AM »
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With smartphones, the idea of there's only a single internet provider in your area is laughable.
That's a really retarded opinion

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You're sort of technically right and completely retarded.

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7367 on: November 24, 2017, 09:13:29 AM »
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I donít see how ending net neutrality benefits the average white person, which is the only measure I give a shit about these days.

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« Reply #7368 on: November 24, 2017, 02:05:12 PM »
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can not wait for our glorious future where nigger owned websites are exempt from anti-neutrality rules because they provide a valuable community service, like World Star

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7369 on: November 24, 2017, 02:25:02 PM »
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Weird when the mentally diseased tranny makes the best points in the topic but I suppose the biggest beneficiaries and the ones with the most experience in such matters are the ones with marginal existences like it. 

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7370 on: November 25, 2017, 04:00:25 AM »
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https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/24/trumps-biggest-win-yet-comes-thanks-to-congress-commentary.html

Congress has handed Trump a historic presidential victory

>>>    Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley is giving President Trump yet another major victory on judicial nominations.
>>>    None of this would have been possible without Harry Reid's decision to kill the filibuster.
>>>    The result is Trump will get to fill the most federal judiciary vacancies in 40 years.

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #7371 on: November 25, 2017, 08:37:05 AM »
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Yeah for years I heard from liberals that the filibuster is the worst thing to happen to politics since gerrymandering, electoral votes, and whatever bullshit issue du jour they get buttblasted about.  I bet they wished they never got rid of it.  Too bad, fuckers.

I also want to point out that the reason why there are so many vacancies is that it was just assumed that a Democrat would win in 2016 so there was no rush to fill these vacancies.

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« Reply #7372 on: November 25, 2017, 03:31:47 PM »
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The filibuster is such an overtly bullshit move (on the part of both sides) that I'm glad it's gone. At least Rand Paul had the balls to actually stand up and read the whole time.

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« Reply #7373 on: November 25, 2017, 05:32:39 PM »
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The filibuster still exists for legislation, just not appointments.

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« Reply #7374 on: November 25, 2017, 06:09:54 PM »
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http://www.dailywire.com/news/23912/eminem-extremely-angry-trump-hes-not-paying-james-barrett#

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"I was and still am extremely angry," said Eminem, BET reports. "I canít stand that motherf***er. I feel like heís not paying attention to me. I was kind of waiting for him to say something and for some reason, he didnít say anything."

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