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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #9600 on: May 19, 2018, 01:47:49 PM »
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Side question: if a serious legal challenge started over an EC vote, such as this popular vote compact scenario, would the Supreme Court be able to ensure it's all resolved before the inauguration? Or delay the inauguration until then?

If it couldn't, and the court eventually found that the popular vote EC was illegal, would they have any legal basis for deposing the then-sitting President? He wouldn't have done anything wrong personally, so he couldn't be impeached or convicted, and he wouldn't be physically or mentally unable to do his job in any way.

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Since 1887, 3 U.S.C. 15 sets the method for objections to electoral votes. During the Joint Session, Members of Congress may object to individual electoral votes or to state returns as a whole. An objection must be declared in writing and signed by at least one Representative and one Senator. In the case of an objection, the Joint Session recesses and each chamber considers the objection separately in a session which cannot last more than two hours with each Member speaking for no more than five minutes. After each house votes on whether or not to accept the objection, the Joint Session reconvenes and both chambers disclose their decisions. If they agree to the objection, the votes in question are not counted. If either chamber does not agree with the objection, the votes are counted.

If enough electoral votes are objected to such that no candidate can reach 270, then the House decides the President and the Senate decides the VP (In the Senate each Senator votes individually among the top 2 EV VP candidates, in the House each state votes as a single delegation among the top 3 EV Presidential candidates, 51/100 and 26/50 states needed to win.)

If they can't decide by January 20th, then an Acting President must be named. If for example the Senate has picked a VP but the House is deadlocked, the certified VP becomes Acting President. If the Senate is also deadlocked, they go down the succession list (Speaker, Senate President Pro Tem, etc) until one of them decides to resign their current position to be Acting President. They stay in that role until the House decides on a President (or, I suppose, until the next election if it were to go that far.)

As far as removing a President after an electoral vote was certified by Congress? I don't really think that would be possible, it would just not be allowed going forward - though I imagine there would be great pressure put on that current President to resign, not seek re-election, or otherwise stop trying to enact their agenda and simply be a steward of the office.

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #9601 on: May 19, 2018, 05:33:19 PM »
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Current court would puss out and punt it to the House since that's where the constitution says fuzzy EC matters wind up. EFB


As far as removing a President after an electoral vote was certified by Congress? I don't really think that would be possible, it would just not be allowed going forward - though I imagine there would be great pressure put on that current President to resign, not seek re-election, or otherwise stop trying to enact their agenda and simply be a steward of the office.

Senate confirms exactly three Cabinet members, none of whom the President nominated, and immediately initiate Article 25.

This is exactly why we should never have more than two parties and Parliamentary forms of government are garbage.
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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #9602 on: May 19, 2018, 05:49:51 PM »
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25th Amendment would never work since the President can disagree with the Cabinet's findings and then you need 2/3rds of both houses to remove over that objection

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #9603 on: May 19, 2018, 07:26:54 PM »
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The future of the GOP is in the upper midwest, rust belt, and even new england , not based blacks in maga hats


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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #9604 on: May 19, 2018, 07:31:46 PM »
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Yeah and so are Washington and Colorado, though Texas and Arizona eventually will turn blue due to spics fucking like rabbits.

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #9605 on: May 19, 2018, 07:49:50 PM »
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The Freedom Caucus spikes a gibs-laden farm bill to push for more immigration restriction measures: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/05/18/farm-bill-fails-in-house-amid-conservative-uprising-over-immigration.html

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A sprawling and subsidy-packed farm bill that also would have tightened food stamp rules failed in the House on Friday, in a dramatic defeat for GOP leaders who faced an uprising from conservatives over inaction on immigration.

The farm bill, which was voted down 213-198, had been hanging in the balance as the conservative House Freedom Caucus threatened to withhold support without an agreement on an immigration bill vote.

The GOP leadership, including House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., and Whip Steve Scalise, R-La., were seen in intense discussions with the conservative lawmakers in the minutes before the vote.

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Before the farm bill failed, the freedom caucus had called for a vote on a conservative bill that would boost border security and support the construction of a wall, among other changes. GOP leaders had offered for the House to consider the measure in June in exchange for support on the farm package, a deal the conservatives rejected.

Glad to see Congress finally growing some balls.

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A spokesman for Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows, R-NC., said Friday he opposed the bill because not enough progress has been made toward a solution on immigration. The spokesman added Meadows look forward to continuing discussions in the coming days.

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Currently, adults 18-59 are required to work part-time to receive food stamps, officially called the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or agree to accept a job if they're offered one. Stricter rules apply to able-bodied adults 18-49, who are subject to a three-month limit of benefits unless they meet a work or job training requirement of 80 hours per month. Under the new bill, the tougher requirement would be expanded to apply to all adults on SNAP, with exceptions for of seniors, pregnant women, caretakers of children under the age of 6, or people with disabilities.

So basically Democrats oppose this bill because it cuts back on gibs.  So the Freedom Caucus essentially gets to dictate whether this farm bill, loaded with gibs (subsidies for farmers, food stamps for worthless niggers), passes.  The public seems pretty tired of funding farm subsidies and nobody likes food stamp grubbing detritus and people really want immigration tackled.  Sounds like a pretty good way to force the discussion.  The GOPe leadership is desperate to keep kicking the can down the road so they won't have to deal with immigration but now that it is definitively known as the top concern for the midterms, Paul Lawl Ryan can't slither away from this, which is probably a big reason why he's stepping down in 2018: he's going to have to eat shit and pass immigration restrictions, which violates every Randian bone in his body.

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #9606 on: May 19, 2018, 07:52:48 PM »
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I guess it's finally starting to sink in that people want the wall and the GOP's future is dependent on it.  Not muh tax cuts, not muh regulations, not muh Jerusalem, immigration.

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #9607 on: May 19, 2018, 09:24:13 PM »
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Yeah and so are Washington and Colorado, though Texas and Arizona eventually will turn blue due to spics fucking like rabbits.

:lolno:

Can't have your name on a voter role with a current address when abuela aint got no papers.


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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #9608 on: May 20, 2018, 02:02:37 AM »
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25th Amendment would never work since the President can disagree with the Cabinet's findings and then you need 2/3rds of both houses to remove over that objection

You skipped a few steps. After the junta cabinet declares him unfit and the President notifies Congress that he disagrees, cabinet OR SUCH OTHER BODY AS CONGRESS MAY PROVIDE, reaffirm in writing to Congress that potus is unfit, VP remains as Acting President for 21 days, by end of which the 2/3 vote happens/has happened.

See the gigantic loophole Haig drafted right into the Constitution? All you have to do is conspire just enough to let them feel like they have no choice.

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #9609 on: May 20, 2018, 10:47:20 AM »
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http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/19/news/china-united-states-trade-announcement/index.html

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Both parties said in a joint statement on Saturday that China has agreed to "significantly increase" purchases of US goods and services, in order to reduce the trade imbalance between the two countries. This was a top demand of the Trump administration during two days of trade talks in Washington with Chinese officials.

Remember when tariffs against China were going to destroy the US?

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #9610 on: May 20, 2018, 01:23:53 PM »
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http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/19/news/china-united-states-trade-announcement/index.html

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Both parties said in a joint statement on Saturday that China has agreed to "significantly increase" purchases of US goods and services, in order to reduce the trade imbalance between the two countries. This was a top demand of the Trump administration during two days of trade talks in Washington with Chinese officials.

Remember when tariffs against China were going to destroy the US?

Peppridge Farm remembers. And Peppridge Farm is still not tired of winning!

I'm sure there are already 10,000 "here's why that's actually bad for the US" articles written about it.
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The Conservatives have a slogan which I think is despicable and defeatist: "It's better to be dead than red." And the Commies and Liberals have a slogan which is even worse, it's treason, they say: "It's better to be red than dead." We say this: "You don't have to be Red and you don't have to be Dead. Not dead. Not Red. Dead Reds"


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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #9611 on: May 20, 2018, 01:28:36 PM »
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http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/19/news/china-united-states-trade-announcement/index.html

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Both parties said in a joint statement on Saturday that China has agreed to "significantly increase" purchases of US goods and services, in order to reduce the trade imbalance between the two countries. This was a top demand of the Trump administration during two days of trade talks in Washington with Chinese officials.

Remember when tariffs against China were going to destroy the US?

Peppridge Farm remembers. And Peppridge Farm is still not tired of winning!

I'm sure there are already 10,000 "here's why that's actually bad for the US" articles written about it.

Hell that very article has a video asking "Is the US trade deficit a bad thing?"

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #9612 on: May 20, 2018, 01:35:46 PM »
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Quote from: George Lincoln Rockwell
The Conservatives have a slogan which I think is despicable and defeatist: "It's better to be dead than red." And the Commies and Liberals have a slogan which is even worse, it's treason, they say: "It's better to be red than dead." We say this: "You don't have to be Red and you don't have to be Dead. Not dead. Not Red. Dead Reds"


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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #9613 on: May 20, 2018, 05:03:36 PM »
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The fbi is has agents writOmg for wapo?

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Re: The Official President Trump YUGE Thread.
« Reply #9614 on: May 20, 2018, 05:27:41 PM »
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2006: the FBI and CIA are modern day Gestapo who waterboard and imprison innocent people.
2011: the FBI and CIA are heroes who tracked down Osama bin Laden and dismantled terrorist cells.
2016: the FBI and CIA are modern day Gestapo who are persecuting antifa and other anti-Trump groups.
2018: the FBI and CIA are heroes who are standing up to Trump.