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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1950 on: November 14, 2017, 03:14:50 PM »
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We will see more fuckups like ME:A in the future.
We're already seeing another one with Star Wars Battlefront II.

I think it's bigger than TORtanic.

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1951 on: November 14, 2017, 04:53:18 PM »
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An extension of Price's law is in effect here, 50% of the effective work is done by a group equaling the square root of the population.  If you have 16 coders, 4 are doing half the work.  That's a fair bit of wiggle room for diversity hires.

The bigger problem is those 4 coders can probably get a job anywhere, and you risk alienating them by hiring a bunch of incompetents, so they'd have to be True Believers in Diversity

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1952 on: November 14, 2017, 06:36:28 PM »
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An extension of Price's law is in effect here, 50% of the effective work is done by a group equaling the square root of the population.  If you have 16 coders, 4 are doing half the work.  That's a fair bit of wiggle room for diversity hires.

The bigger problem is those 4 coders can probably get a job anywhere, and you risk alienating them by hiring a bunch of incompetents, so they'd have to be True Believers in Diversity

Unfortunately, the “beta numale cuck” and “Western video game programmer” Venn diagram may as well be one circle at this point.

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1953 on: November 14, 2017, 07:00:06 PM »
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Competent coders can just do their own thing with indie games and studios but good luck getting any real ((publisher)) dollars until you cram your firm with diversity hires.

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1954 on: November 14, 2017, 08:21:51 PM »
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An extension of Price's law is in effect here, 50% of the effective work is done by a group equaling the square root of the population.  If you have 16 coders, 4 are doing half the work.  That's a fair bit of wiggle room for diversity hires.

The bigger problem is those 4 coders can probably get a job anywhere, and you risk alienating them by hiring a bunch of incompetents, so they'd have to be True Believers in Diversity
I heard it described as the 20/80 rule. As in 80% of the work is done by 20%of the people.
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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1956 on: November 14, 2017, 10:22:39 PM »
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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1957 on: November 15, 2017, 03:33:09 AM »
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Competent coders can just do their own thing with indie games and studios but good luck getting any real ((publisher)) dollars until you cram your firm with diversity hires.
Competent coders stay the hell away from the video game industry in general because it's the programming equivalent of a lawyer becoming a public defendant. You're gonna be underpaid, overworked, and have to deal with ingrate retards all day long.

In terms of poz it's not actually the worst place yet, those would be the big famous software multinationals (Microsoft, Google, etc.).

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1958 on: November 15, 2017, 04:17:35 AM »
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Competent coders stay the hell away from the video game industry in general because it's the programming equivalent of a lawyer becoming a public defendant. You're gonna be underpaid, overworked, and have to deal with ingrate retards all day long.

In terms of poz it's not actually the worst place yet, those would be the big famous software multinationals (Microsoft, Google, etc.).

Unless you are in one of the few studios that are making excellent games and turning in a nice profit.
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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1959 on: November 15, 2017, 04:53:13 AM »
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Competent coders stay the hell away from the video game industry in general because it's the programming equivalent of a lawyer becoming a public defendant. You're gonna be underpaid, overworked, and have to deal with ingrate retards all day long.

In terms of poz it's not actually the worst place yet, those would be the big famous software multinationals (Microsoft, Google, etc.).

Unless you are in one of the few studios that are making excellent games and turning in a nice profit.

Nope. The quality of the product has little correlation with the quality of life for working at the company that makes the product.

The root problem is that 90% of the nerdlings who enroll in CS at university love computer games and dream of making computer games for a living. This increases the offer of labor and drives down wages, plain and simple. Kinda like acting in that regard, except nobody wants to fuck most CS graduates.

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1960 on: November 15, 2017, 10:15:54 AM »
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Nobody wants to fuck most actors either, except other actors usually. They'll sleep with whoever and whatever.

This includes actual dogs.

I remember the first time I heard about an actual case of necrosis, an acting major went over to the other campus where they stored the cadavers and routinely fucked one and caught diseases from the corpses.

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1961 on: November 15, 2017, 11:57:45 AM »
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Nope. The quality of the product has little correlation with the quality of life for working at the company that makes the product.
CDPR is supposed to be a really bad work environment, even though the quality of the projects you're working on is high.

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1962 on: November 15, 2017, 11:59:13 AM »
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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1963 on: November 15, 2017, 12:33:56 PM »
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I remember the first time I heard about an actual case of necrosis, an acting major went over to the other campus where they stored the cadavers and routinely fucked one and caught diseases from the corpses.

you are possibly the most gullible moron on the planet

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1964 on: November 15, 2017, 01:12:00 PM »
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I remember the first time I heard about an actual case of necrosis, an acting major went over to the other campus where they stored the cadavers and routinely fucked one and caught diseases from the corpses.

you are possibly the most gullible moron on the planet
Nah-uh dude he was being dead serious.

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1965 on: November 15, 2017, 03:34:52 PM »
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Nope. The quality of the product has little correlation with the quality of life for working at the company that makes the product.
CDPR is supposed to be a really bad work environment, even though the quality of the projects you're working on is high.

Reminds me of someone in the movie industry saying everyone had a horrible time working on great movies like the original godfather, maybe it has something to do with the people in charge making sure others are working hard and putting their nose to the grindstone instead of letting them have the time to bitch about oppression on twitter all day.

Anyway since someone mentioned diversity awhile back and how all browns in western games look the same I'd like to show you guys a pic that has been going around twitter for awhile showcasing western diversity versus eastern diversity:


Notice how every single one of the "diverse" strong black wymyn look exactly the same while the eastern ones look really different and actually diverse? And despite not having played many of the games these are from I'd bet you anything that the eastern characters mostly have a different backstory and characteristics while the western ones are all the same sassy black woman you see everywhere, the one that says shit like "oh no you didn'" and calls the MC a cracka, I'd say its almost a stereotype at this point but that's wrong because it IS a stereotype. This just really shows that western devs have this idealized version of what a negress is and how they act despite living around them while eastern ones who probably have barely seen black people if any at all and yet can still make them feel more human. I have to wonder if a small part of it is western devs getting off to a black woman demeaning them and telling them how horrible white people are and how woke she is through the entire game, because they sure as shit aren't trying to make a likable character.

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1966 on: November 15, 2017, 03:44:22 PM »
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I remember the first time I heard about an actual case of necrosis, an acting major went over to the other campus where they stored the cadavers and routinely fucked one and caught diseases from the corpses.

you are possibly the most gullible moron on the planet

Fortunately, like all atop stories, it is completely made up

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1967 on: November 15, 2017, 04:46:54 PM »
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Nope. The quality of the product has little correlation with the quality of life for working at the company that makes the product.
CDPR is supposed to be a really bad work environment, even though the quality of the projects you're working on is high.

Reminds me of someone in the movie industry saying everyone had a horrible time working on great movies like the original godfather, maybe it has something to do with the people in charge making sure others are working hard and putting their nose to the grindstone instead of letting them have the time to bitch about oppression on twitter all day.

Anyway since someone mentioned diversity awhile back and how all browns in western games look the same I'd like to show you guys a pic that has been going around twitter for awhile showcasing western diversity versus eastern diversity:


Notice how every single one of the "diverse" strong black wymyn look exactly the same while the eastern ones look really different and actually diverse? And despite not having played many of the games these are from I'd bet you anything that the eastern characters mostly have a different backstory and characteristics while the western ones are all the same sassy black woman you see everywhere, the one that says shit like "oh no you didn'" and calls the MC a cracka, I'd say its almost a stereotype at this point but that's wrong because it IS a stereotype. This just really shows that western devs have this idealized version of what a negress is and how they act despite living around them while eastern ones who probably have barely seen black people if any at all and yet can still make them feel more human. I have to wonder if a small part of it is western devs getting off to a black woman demeaning them and telling them how horrible white people are and how woke she is through the entire game, because they sure as shit aren't trying to make a likable character.
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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1968 on: November 15, 2017, 06:11:16 PM »
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You can see that the western devs have actually met a negress, in their depictions of them as one-note obnoxious creatures.

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1969 on: November 15, 2017, 06:29:24 PM »
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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1970 on: November 15, 2017, 09:08:39 PM »
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Battlefront II is shaping up to be a bigger abomination than mass effect Andromeda. You have a half dozen currencies you need to use in order to upgrade things including currencies that need to be used to upgrade other currencies. Jeff Gerstman tore the game apart and berated the singleplayer campaign where everything is garbage and the whole story is essentially mary-sue meets the cast of star wars and they decide she's the best thing ever. The lootcrates you earn during the campaign are all assigned to characters that you have not unlocked and by the end of the campaign you still won't be able to unlock a character.

Multiplayer is shit there are a limited amount of Hero slots(hero slots are characters like Darth Vader, Darth Maul, Luke, etc.) that can be used in the game and the first people who unlock the heroes in the game or have enough points to play as a hero will stick with it until the end of the game and those who earn enough points the slowest are perma stuck as generic units for the remainder of the game because all the hero slots are taken and the game will refuse to spawn you as a hero character. Multiplayer is still a the same uncoordinated mess that it was with the original.

Gameplay is still shallow and the lootboxes were the only added depth that there is. Whales are a problem day one since you have people who upgraded everything right off the bat and essentially shut down matches because all the starting equipment is barely usable and you need to get a certain number of kills in order to upgrade the equipment which is impossible since whales dominate. The only work around people found is that matches reward insane points for one specific currency for amount of time played and doesn't really reward kills so the big thing that's emerged are nothing but idling rooms where people rubber band their controller sticks and let the character run around in circles for hours upon hours just so they're able to buy gear to fight the whales.


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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1971 on: November 16, 2017, 07:02:33 AM »
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Surprisingly, Disney is killing Star Wars.
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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1972 on: November 16, 2017, 07:35:20 AM »
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Surprisingly, Disney is killing Star Wars.

George Lucas killed Star Wars, Disney is just carving up the carcass and selling the cuts.


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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1973 on: November 16, 2017, 08:07:55 AM »
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But how can the game be bad?  Game reviewers are experts and the metacritic average is a 7.5. 

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Re: 888 Social Justice Struggles Against The Video Game Patriarchy
« Reply #1974 on: November 16, 2017, 09:23:00 AM »
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But how can the game be bad?  Game reviewers are experts and the metacritic average is a 7.5.

Critics averaging 7.5 for an EA game must mean it's pretty bad.
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