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Teenage crossdresser forces UK school to capitulate
« on: July 29, 2012, 04:06:11 PM »
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http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3498590

Another Bullard lazypost(fuck you, I am on my mobile AND on vacation). Just read it. The mother is an IT worker....

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Re: Teenage crossdresser forces UK school to capitulate
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2012, 11:55:46 AM »
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Here is our before:


And here is our after (dat jawline):



This snippet made me happy to read:

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Ashlyn – who lives with his mother, brother, sister and stepfather, a partner in a firm of surveyors – made his first appearance in a girl’s uniform on June 1.

The reason why is that there probably will not be a single single post in that thread that uses a male pronoun when referring to Lewis.  And if one is used, the poster will be called out or probated.  It shows that this news source is still credible.

As for the issue, I am all for live and let live, but I am somewhat offended by the automatic adoption of a preferred gender-specific pronoun to the point of being a bigot if you don't conform.  That kid is a him.  He was born a him.  Maybe after all is said and done and sexual reassignment surgery occurs, I will be OK with "her."  Again, I'll help feed him the hormone pills.  I'll drink a beer with him.  But don't force your ideals of gender ownership on me.  All of this crap is driving me nuts.

He/She = Sheem  ?
Him/Her = Shim  ?
His/Her = Hez  ?

Oh fuck off already.
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Re: Teenage crossdresser forces UK school to capitulate
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2012, 12:40:31 PM »
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Oh and....

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Re: Teenage crossdresser forces UK school to capitulate
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2012, 03:53:25 PM »
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What does it do when it gets a hardon in a skirt? Wouldn't that be the most awkward thing ever?
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Re: Teenage crossdresser forces UK school to capitulate
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2012, 10:31:43 PM »
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I think the biggest problem is that you get jumped all over for posting in GBS. It's now bigotry to not want to fuck trannies. I don't post in GBS anymore, but there was a time in like '08 where it was okay to say "I'm not into that".

The problem is that this shit is bleeding into PYF which is the only sub-forum I actually post in anymore. There are some really good threads, and you're still allowed to talk shit about bronies or crazy liberals or whatever.

I saw someone post about this is the Social Justice Trainwrecks thread which is actually pretty funny and has a level of self-awareness. The whole thread is worth browsing there are some good stories in there.

A real man would have fucked that poor tranny woman.
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Yes, that's right. A poor tranny woman had the misfortune of meeting a man that will have sex with a sausage wearing a bow-tie, and after Rover, no man will do. Someone that claims she was so hot, he was undressed in less than 5 minutes. Then, he doesn't even put on his pants, he half puts them on and bolts out of the room with nothing.

    For four fucking hours

    Damn it man, you are such a god-damned pussy. You should have used your "man's-man" powers of testosterone to show WHOSE got the cock around here. Both her and you were obviously hot, bothered, and consensual over this, and you left the poor girl out in the rain to dry. All because you got scared of your worst enemy: Your insecurity.

    You are naked, and this gorgeous woman slowly riles you up and you see a bulge and run out like a little girl who pee-pee'd her panties! You were born with a cock and testosterone so that you can fuck beautiful women 10 different ways until sunrise, and use those muscles of yours to move us around and show us who is the man, she was into it, you were in to it. Why didn't you do anything about it??

    Yeah, you are so lucky that nothing was stolen. You are so lucky that you meet real women of integrity who have morals and wouldn't steal from a man who is afraid. And to leave the poor girl alone for 4 hours, with all your stuff, all that so you could "be the butt" of your buddies joke, and then sit there talking like it "was a bad, unavoidable thing"?? I feel it is your duty as a soldier to show all different types of women a damn good time. I am disappointed in your cowardice.

This was the explaination....
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In GIP a poster said that when he was in Germany, his buddies tricked him into picking up a transwoman at a bar. He freaked out and ran out of his room, and left his wallet behind to boot. There were a few laughs, because that's happened to a lot of guys who have been stationed in Germany or Thailand.

So yeah, now it's totally cool to just search the forums for "trigger words" and jump all over other posters in totally different sub-forums.
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Whoops, did I wander into Goons In Platoons? Aw shucks guys, it was purely by accident! You see, I was just hitting the search button for someone using the word "tranny" so I could pounce on them, not to point out the fact that "her" being a tranny is not worse than ditching a room, naked, with all your belongings in it for 4 hours as if your life were in danger! I would never read this forum for any other reason.

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Re: Teenage crossdresser forces UK school to capitulate
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2012, 11:04:31 AM »
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lol pyf social trainwreck was a great thread; what seemed like the first 10 pages were about how tumblrites got their panties in a twist over a cartoon character. apparently there's a non-white fantasy magic cartoon character (ethnicity is never shown and she's a sort of brownish/yellowish that constantly changes so maybe black or dark asian or mexican who knows), and there's tumblrites that get really upset if people draw fanart of her not being as dark as they should be.

seriously

people on tumblr go ballistic that a cartoon character isn't drawn black enough for them.

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Re: Teenage crossdresser forces UK school to capitulate
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2012, 02:52:38 AM »
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So Forums user Novum asked

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Just so I'm clear on this, it's uncouth to refer to a male to female transgendered person as 'he' even whilst they are still technically male?

Which got a few very infomative responses:

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It's rude, hurtful and incorrect. This young woman is just that, a young woman. There's no "still technically male"-- regardless of the shape of her body (and how it may or may not someday be altered via hormones and surgery) or her (likely) XY genetics, her gender (which is what we base social conventions such as pronouns off of) is feminine.

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I assume the "technically" you refer to is SRS - Something the majority of trans people never have (See Reed et al, "Gender Variance in the UK", GIRES for the data, also Cole et al. "Comorbidity of gender dysphoria and other major and other psychiatric diagnoses", which lists surgical intervention at 28% for M-F patients and 49% for F-M)

Reducing gender to one's genitals is ultimately in opposition to the idea of trans people existing.

Edit: Quoted wrong paper.

Edit 2: No I didn't. Kinda.

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Yes, it's hurtful and dismissive. Furthermore, it's not like there's a magic point where you earn the pronoun you want; presumably you're thinking of the actual sexual reassignment surgery, which not a step all transpeople even take. If she identifies as a girl what does it hurt anyone to be nice?

Novum thanked the kind people for the responses but added

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Fair enough. I've never been in a position where tact was really required for this sort of thing. And yes, by 'technically' I suppose I really meant 'physically' I suppose if I ever find myself dealing with a transgendered person now I know the type of wording I should use.

Everyone thanks him for his considerations

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I'm not trying to be rude but I just don't know how people don't straight away realise how shitty it would be to dismiss someone's feelings and call them something they don't feel they are.

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Well, there's really 2 contexts for misgendering someone (it's called misgendering): talking to someone in conversation, and talking about someone as a subject of a news article. In the article, misgendering is being used on purpose in order to both undermine the girl's plight, undermine trans people in general (you're supposed to hate them and think they're freaks with a freaky fake illness, but, they can't say that) and to encourage the outrage and get the article posted about all over the place, all under the guise of the idea of her being "technically male" and therefore basically impossible to force them to revise. They'll likely only refer to her as she if she acquires full legal recognition of her gender via the process we have in the UK for that purpose (which she can't apply for until she's 18) - they likely only use her name because it suits their purposes. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they hate trans people, they just don't care, and want to milk trans PC stuff for as long as they can.

But like, if you were actually talking to a trans person face to face and you started deliberately misgendering them when you became aware they were trans, you may be basically committing some kind of psychological warfare against someone with a long term recognised medical condition which can often come with a large degree of distress linked to people not accepting them as their lived/target/acquired gender. Basically, you would be being a massive arsehole. It's not exactly just being tactful to acquiesce in that context.

I would avoid deciding you are correct about someone's gender or preferred pronouns because they are "technically" or "physically" anything, when you could just listen to them and do what they'd like you to do. It's just one of those things! I think that this is already your takeaway from this, so, that's cool.
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Re: Teenage crossdresser forces UK school to capitulate
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2012, 09:08:08 AM »
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I don't get this whole reducing gender down to just the genitals/whether you have XY or XX chromosome is bad. Wasn't the point of feminism supposed to be that women = men except for the genitals and chromosome, as well as pointing out that gender roles (stay at home parent, breadwinner, etc) didn't/shouldn't be based on your sex?

tbh every goon tranny I've seen photos of has these fucked up notions of how women dress and ends up looking like a fucking porn star.


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Re: Teenage crossdresser forces UK school to capitulate
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2012, 11:40:40 AM »
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It's rude, hurtful and incorrect. This young woman is just that, a young woman. There's no "still technically male"-- regardless of the shape of her body (and how it may or may not someday be altered via hormones and surgery) or her (likely) XY genetics, her gender (which is what we base social conventions such as pronouns off of) is feminine.

And now we boil it down to its essence:

It's rude, hurtful and incorrect. This young <insert noun> is just that, a <insert same noun>. There's no "still technically [i]<insert antonym or desired identity of first noun>[/i][/u]"-- regardless of the shape of <insert neutral or gender opposite pronoun> body (and how it may or may not someday be altered via hormones and surgery) or <insert neutral or gender opposite pronoun> (likely) <insert species-specific chromosomal pairing> genetics, <insert neutral or gender opposite pronoun> gender (which is what we base social conventions such as pronouns off of) is <insert gender-adjective>.

An example:

It's rude, hurtful and incorrect. This young emu is just that, a young emu. There's no "still technically human"-- regardless of the shape of its body (and how it may or may not someday be altered via hormones and surgery) or its (likely) XY genetics, its gender (which is what we base social conventions such as pronouns off of) is Avian.  Fucking avian-hating bigots.


Edit: Damn! forgot to bold the XY.
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Re: Teenage crossdresser forces UK school to capitulate
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2012, 11:48:04 PM »
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puttin on my shoulders conspiracy hat: the same hundred trannies go from message board to message board screaming about intolerance and in order to outlib each other posters go along with it.

jokes aside when the fuck did every idiot decide they are really born into the wrong sex and go all TIME TO CHOP MY DICK OFF in response to any problem? did I miss that at some point?

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Re: Teenage crossdresser forces UK school to capitulate
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2012, 11:31:22 AM »
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puttin on my shoulders conspiracy hat: the same hundred trannies go from message board to message board screaming about intolerance and in order to outlib each other posters go along with it.

jokes aside when the fuck did every idiot decide they are really born into the wrong sex and go all TIME TO CHOP MY DICK OFF in response to any problem? did I miss that at some point?

It's edgy and en vogue and has the highest attention whoring payout from the smallest investiture and effort.  Attention Starved + Small Effort + Little Effort = I wanna be a troon.

The majority will be going in for breast reduction surgery when it becomes old-hat.  Also the libs push that, if you are not pro-queer and cannot be as attracted to the same sex as the opposite sex, you are a bigot hatemonger.   I think some accept it just because the majority wants it.