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Re: Anthony Cumia succumbs to twitter pozz?
« Reply #175 on: July 25, 2014, 08:56:52 PM »
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I hope all radio talent pulls a  :adam: and just leaves forever to go do podcasting and the fucking entire radio industry just dies a horrible death.
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Re: Anthony Cumia succumbs to twitter pozz?
« Reply #176 on: July 25, 2014, 09:03:37 PM »
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I hope all radio talent pulls a  :adam: and just leaves forever to go do podcasting and the fucking entire radio industry just dies a horrible death.

We're actually witnessing a great awakening in Real Talk.  It's coming, and there's nothing the :librage: can do about it.

You don't need anything other than a microphone to do podcasts, and when your'e starting out you just can use the built in one.  All the best real talkers will get podcasts instead of being on the radio.  The :parson:s will convince themselves that it is squelching wrong think.

The hilarious thing here is all these dumb advertisers could have made tons of money standing firm to SJWs.  Now they get nothing.

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Re: Anthony Cumia succumbs to twitter pozz?
« Reply #177 on: July 25, 2014, 09:11:29 PM »
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Exactly.  The country isn't nearly as pozzed as you think it is.  The problem is that the  :goonette: :unparsons: :christina: :librage: people have a HUGE vocal pressence in the media and on the internet.  They don't actually outnumber the normal people.  Not at all.  They just look like they do because they have so much time on their hands and love to scream and complain.  Normal people don't have time for that nonsense.

The big corporations are scared to death of bad PR and thus they are TERRIFIED of upsetting the SJW crew.  If they think SJW backlash will result in even a 1% drop in sales they will bend over backwards to kiss SJW ass.

But SJW's don't make up that much of the customer base.  They don't have that much money.  They can't impact sales very much at all, and often times when they TRY to hurt a companies sales, they just end up making that company way more wealthy in the process (see Duck Dynasty for example).

The era of realtalk is coming.  You are totally right.
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Re: Anthony Cumia succumbs to twitter pozz?
« Reply #178 on: July 26, 2014, 12:04:53 AM »
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Cancelled my sub today. The guy asked me why, and I told him "Sirius fired the only talk show host I listen to." He immediately knew who I was talking about, so it must be happening a lot.

Did he at least agree with you that his firing was bullshit?

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Re: Anthony Cumia succumbs to twitter pozz?
« Reply #179 on: July 26, 2014, 01:32:14 AM »
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Cancelled my sub today. The guy asked me why, and I told him "Sirius fired the only talk show host I listen to." He immediately knew who I was talking about, so it must be happening a lot.

Did he at least agree with you that his firing was bullshit?
Dude was from some ESL call center. He didn't give a fuck.

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Re: Anthony Cumia succumbs to twitter pozz?
« Reply #180 on: July 26, 2014, 03:17:46 AM »
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Exactly.  The country isn't nearly as pozzed as you think it is.  The problem is that the  :goonette: :unparsons: :christina: :librage: people have a HUGE vocal pressence in the media and on the internet.  They don't actually outnumber the normal people.  Not at all.  They just look like they do because they have so much time on their hands and love to scream and complain.  Normal people don't have time for that nonsense.
In-Progress/Rambly Theory to expand on that: Basically, a solid majority of reporters nowadays have a Twitter account, and most spend a lot of time on it. That isn't even bad, Twitter is great for breaking news and first hand accounts, not to mention keeping up with relevant colleagues whenever their articles get published, getting involved in media conversations (the media loves itself), stuff like that. On top of this, journalists generally lean socially liberal.

Because of this:
- journalists tend to get pulled in to Twitter's "culture"
- journalists tend to incorrectly assume Twitter can be an accurate read of "mass opinion" vs. "the musings of people who post about social issues on Twitter"

So, let's say a hashtag starts trending: a lot of journalists will read it, and proceed to present it as a major movement. Equivalent to an actual mass protest. The fact writing an article on this stuff is a) easy as hell b) clickbait makes it even more appealing. You can see this when even 4chan's successful #EndFathersDay troll - where half the reason it kept trending was people going "goddamn this is retarded" - got sincere coverage on places like the LA Times website.

And that's where the poz brigade can come in. A goony unemployed Tumblrkin may not be able to function on the outside world, but xhe can monitor Patton Oswalt's twitter feed for transphobic jokes! And then they all start following each other, and retweeting each other, and given how easy it is to get something out there in the Twitterverse, or even get a hashtag trending (seriously, not hard), that's all you really need. And boy oh boy, do the SJW types tweet! If you look up "hashtag activists" (think Suey Park) their tweet count is always absurdly high. My favorite example is this completely insane person, seriously lookit that tweet count.

And so their collective 140 character mental illness can easily get interpreted/presented by the hip young reporter types as actual mass opinion, Requiring A Response And Discussion. And businesses - who keep in mind have ridiculous corporate Twitter accounts that desperately try to become relevant to the point of doing "internet humor") - certainly don't want to risk getting bad press on the Twitterversesphere.

The crux of why someone like Anthony can get fired for a tweet - especially since he's said ~racially insensitive~ things on his show for literally years (not a big listener, going off you guys in this thread) without much in the way of surprise or complaint - is because the value of Twitter in representing mass opinion is currently heavily, heavily overvalued.


 :clinton: It's possible I've thought about this too much, but bleh, fuck these people. I'm actually pretty liberal (I lurk/read here for some fresh air from SA), but the SJW/say-bad-word-on-Twitter-get-fired bullshit is completely insufferable.
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Re: Anthony Cumia succumbs to twitter pozz?
« Reply #181 on: July 26, 2014, 07:53:51 AM »
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The media does a poor job of identifying actual trends.

When Youtube launched and you had losers like Tay Zonday, Samwell, lonelygirl15, and the Obama Girl get 2 million views for their videos, the media couldn't stop fawning over them.  For you see, two million views on Youtube is the same as two million people watching a TV show.  So they were called the new leaders of entertainment, media companies signed them up for various things and then, well, nothing happened.  The media got things completely wrong about viral videos.  Sometimes it's just one faggot watching the same Youtube video 1,000 times.  Sometimes people just check it out to see what was going on, not because they loved the video or thought that Tay Zonday had actual talent.  The media eventually stopped when they kept getting embarrassed about getting worked up over a viral video.

The media has moved away from viral videos and believe now in trending hashtags.  Journalists like to take social media seriously because they like social media and their friends like social media, therefore, social media must be important.  Then when you heard stories about how the Arab Spring used Twitter to form riots, journalists believed it was the new future of how news gets transmitted and therefore, they need to take everything that comes out of it seriously.  Again, they don't realize that heavy twitter users are the same unemployed goons who wrote letters to their editors constantly: they have no lives, believe in stupid shit, but have the time to constantly write about the potholes in the street or how fluoridating the tap water is a form of government induced mind control.  It's a bunch of bullshit that gets a lot of artificial importance attached to it because they like social media and Aaron Sorkin made a movie about Facebook and how they really believe it's the way people will communicate in the future: with 140 characters or less.  It also helps that a lot of these journalists believe in cultural marxism and are excited that little kids would rather listen to what is trending on Twitter vs. what their cisbigoted parents have to say so they think that it is really important that what a cat lady has to say about #Yesallwomen is important.  So they provide a lot of coverage because they think that they can have the tool to wreak cultural marxism in society.

Except that contrary to their desires, Twitter activism is only taken seriously by about 1-2 percent of the population.  That is still millions of people but there are over 300 million who just don't give a fuck.  However the media is so disconnected from reality that they don't even bother to hide it anymore.  Then they wonder why the trust people have in the media has plummeted down to almost nothing.  They don't get it and never will.  Most people aren't pozzed and never will be pozzed but the media and the power structure is so disconnected from the masses that they really believe trans* rights are the most important thing in society right now, which to 99% of the population, it's about trying to pay their bills on time or trying to weave through bureaucratic red tape that the government imposes.

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Re: Anthony Cumia succumbs to twitter pozz?
« Reply #182 on: July 26, 2014, 08:39:15 AM »
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I was in a waiting room a while ago and I saw a 15-16 year old kid go up to the table with all the magazines on it. He picked up the TIME with the tranny on the cover, studied it a second, made a grossed out face, and then picked up a sports illustrated. I wanted to hug him.

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Re: Anthony Cumia succumbs to twitter pozz?
« Reply #183 on: July 26, 2014, 12:29:45 PM »
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Both of you are fucking spot on in your analysis.  I'm in my early 30's and I don't know a single person that uses twitter.  Not one.  I have a few people on my facebook post something with a hashtag before, but that's incredibly rare.  Out of 300+ people on my facebook, I see a single hashtag maybe once every other month.

Normal tax paying citizens do not sit on Twitter.  The vast majority of them don't even have an account and don't give a shit.  Just because something has a "trending twitter hashtag" doesn't mean a god damn thing to anyone outside of Twitter.  No one fucking cares.

Look how hard the media tried to shove #yesallwomen down our throats?  No one cared about that shit either.  Jesus, what % of the population has a Twitter account?  1% at most?  What percentage of those are kids that don't pay taxes?  75%?


Using Twitter to measure whats popular in your town and what issues people care about is kinda like going over to the local Highschool and taking a peek at the graffiti written on the bathroom walls, trying to look for trends in what people discuss.  Then trying to pretend that information is relevant to the rest of the city.

"OMG did you hear?  Suzzie Perkins totally cheated on Zack at the kegger last weekend, and he doesn't even know about it yet!!!!   Quick, lets run down to the veterans hall and the fire station to do interviews and see what the rest of our community thinks about this breaking news story!!" :tuss:
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Re: Anthony Cumia succumbs to twitter pozz?
« Reply #184 on: July 26, 2014, 12:39:54 PM »
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Hell, bathroom graffiti might be better as it may be written by a normal person
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Re: Anthony Cumia succumbs to twitter pozz?
« Reply #185 on: July 26, 2014, 01:10:27 PM »
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Twitter is the most obnoxious tool for narcissistic faggots on the planet.

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Re: Anthony Cumia succumbs to twitter pozz?
« Reply #186 on: July 26, 2014, 01:17:11 PM »
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Hell, bathroom graffiti might be better as it may be written by a normal person

Haha... goons are too pee shy to use a public bathroom

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Re: Anthony Cumia succumbs to twitter pozz?
« Reply #187 on: July 26, 2014, 01:17:24 PM »
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Twitter is the most obnoxious tool for narcissistic faggots on the planet.
Twitter is good for following porn stars and camwhores who like to get their tits out. Their twitter accounts are usually linked to instagram, vine, and tumblr, so you don't need to visit all of those sites to get your ass and titty fix.

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Re: Anthony Cumia succumbs to twitter pozz?
« Reply #188 on: July 26, 2014, 01:23:51 PM »
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Twitter is the most obnoxious tool for narcissistic faggots on the planet.
Twitter is good for following porn stars and camwhores who like to get their tits out. Their twitter accounts are usually linked to instagram, vine, and tumblr, so you don't need to visit all of those sites to get your ass and titty fix.

The majority of them require you to register on twitter for access to the T&A pics though, in which I still refuse to do.  :colbert:

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Re: Anthony Cumia succumbs to twitter pozz?
« Reply #189 on: July 26, 2014, 01:26:06 PM »
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Well, I guess you can sit on the rocking chair on your porch and yell at those damn neighbor kids for entertainment. That doesn't require registration. :clint:

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« Reply #190 on: July 26, 2014, 01:32:46 PM »
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Well, I guess you can sit on the rocking chair on your porch and yell at those damn neighbor kids for entertainment. That doesn't require registration. :clint:

I can get porn for free. That doesn't require registration either.  :smug:

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« Reply #191 on: July 26, 2014, 02:04:42 PM »
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Jesus, what % of the population has a Twitter account?  1% at most?  What percentage of those are kids that don't pay taxes?  75%?
16% of the adult population, supposedly. Highly tilted towards younger demographics. About half use it for "news" purposes; most people just like tweeting their friends, or maybe about a TV show, or following celebrity feeds, etc (people I know IRL generally have them for this). I think, even within this 8% news number, the vast majority just like using it as a news source/getting breaking info. So I think you're down to a pretty small figure by the time you're talking about people who use it to be part of "The Conversation", and you're back to my SJW inflation numbers from earlier.

They even include the straight up note that Twitter isn't a proxy for public opinion, heh.

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« Reply #192 on: July 26, 2014, 02:20:34 PM »
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By doing a thorough and far reaching look into twitter, I have discovered that America is overwhelmingly liberal and progressive.

By doing a thorough and far reaching look into talk radio all over the country, I have discovered that America is overwhelmingly conservative and traditional.

By doing a thorough and far reaching look into SA, I have discovered that all is faggot.

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« Reply #193 on: July 26, 2014, 02:29:37 PM »
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By doing a thorough and far reaching look into twitter, I have discovered that America is overwhelmingly liberal and progressive.

By doing a thorough and far reaching look into talk radio all over the country, I have discovered that America is overwhelmingly conservative and traditional.

By doing a thorough and far reaching look into SA, I have discovered that all is faggot.
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Re: Anthony Cumia succumbs to twitter pozz?
« Reply #194 on: July 26, 2014, 03:54:38 PM »
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Jesus, what % of the population has a Twitter account?  1% at most?  What percentage of those are kids that don't pay taxes?  75%?
16% of the adult population, supposedly. Highly tilted towards younger demographics. About half use it for "news" purposes; most people just like tweeting their friends, or maybe about a TV show, or following celebrity feeds, etc (people I know IRL generally have them for this). I think, even within this 8% news number, the vast majority just like using it as a news source/getting breaking info. So I think you're down to a pretty small figure by the time you're talking about people who use it to be part of "The Conversation", and you're back to my SJW inflation numbers from earlier.

They even include the straight up note that Twitter isn't a proxy for public opinion, heh.

http://www.businessinsider.com/number-of-users-who-abandon-twitter-2014-2
As of February of this year, only 1 in 6 of the accounts on Twitter are even logged into monthly. I would say that Twitter's reach isn't totally insignificant, but it's also not remotely as extensive as hashtag activists would have you believe. It's more or less just an extension of believing that your personal echo chamber is representative of the world, and things that are a big deal to you must be a big deal to everybody.

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Re: Anthony Cumia succumbs to twitter pozz?
« Reply #195 on: July 26, 2014, 04:30:46 PM »
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The amazing thing about twitter and tumblr to me is that everyone there is a raging narcissist and is only there to blast their own thoughts and opinions. You'd think it would immediately die then, but somehow subconsciously they all realized that if they didn't pretend to read other peoples BORING stuff, nobody might read their AWESOME TOTALLY SMRT posts, so they all condescend and humor each other by retweeting and reblogging and commenting on each others bullshit.

It reminds me of how ants instinctively cling to each other to form a buoyed rotating raft to cross a river alive, something they could never do as individual ants.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A042J0IDQK4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A042J0IDQK4</a>

Except instead of survival they are all doing it to protect their egos and delusions.

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Re: Anthony Cumia succumbs to twitter pozz?
« Reply #196 on: July 27, 2014, 08:19:27 AM »
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I also think that it needs to be emphasized further that the news media has also decided that their purpose is no longer to present the news but to shape ideologies.  In the past, maybe they'd really play up the accomplishments of a Democrat and really play up the screw ups of a Republican but in the past few years they've collectively went full retard and are now trying to beat the drum of liberal progressive ideologies hard.  A lot of media outlets don't even bother trying to get the most basic facts right.

Gavin McInnes pointed this out in a recent article he wrote up: http://takimag.com/article/fact_rape_gavin_mcinnes#axzz38c4H2lyO

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Ever notice that when you read an article on something you know a lot about, they’ve got 50% of the facts wrong? Whether it’s a story about your hometown or your favorite band, it’s always shocking how half-assed the journalists are. Apparently, lots of people have noticed this. Last week, we learned of a Gallup poll that said confidence in the media had plummeted to 22%. In 1979 it was 51%. This is because we’ve gone from investigators hitting the pavement to ideologues pounding their keyboards. A reporter used to go where the story led him. Now he starts with the story and crams in facts until it fits.

This may be because the demand for news outpaces the supply, so they blurt out, “Uh, the guy who hit Tracy Morgan was up for 24 hours because Walmart,” since it sounds good. It may be because print ads are dead and income is increasingly based on the number of clicks a web article gets—hence the term “click bait.” Another far more sinister possibility is the vast majority of reporters are basically Marxist liberals and they use the news as a propaganda tool for the “greater good.”

I suspect it’s the latter. There are too many fake stories that fit the liberal narrative for it to be an accident. It seems like every time we see evidence of the left’s hateful worldview, we learn it’s a hoax. Remember when KFC demanded a disfigured girl leave their restaurant because she scared the customers? That never happened either. How many times have we found “Faggot” and “Nigger” scrawled on a wall only to discover later it was done by the same non-hetero-normative person of color who claimed to be a victim? Is there anyone in the country who isn’t convinced every journalist outside of Fox is in the tank for Obama?

I often wonder … wait; “wondering” is a hate crime. When Cliven Bundy dared to wonder if some blacks were better off during slavery he was vilified. Fuck it. I’m going to wonder. I often wonder why these journalists want America to be a hellhole full of prejudice. I think it’s because their academic years consisted of far-left professors telling them the entire country is a Klan rally and they had better devote their careers to untangling this mess.

When they get a job at MSNBC, Media Matters, Raw Story, or Daily Kos, they look around and see a bunch of totally reasonable white males saying “Hello, how do you do?” Their war on hate quickly becomes a war on a vacuum, so they start randomly grabbing detritus to fill the hole.

They are able to continue this charade unabated because they don’t live in the real world, so there are no checks and balances. They don’t know any truckers, so they don’t realize it’s impossible for them to work more than 11 hours a day. They’ve never been to the ghetto, so they can keep pretending gun violence is about whites hunting blacks. It’s easy to assume everyone is a racist, sexist homophobe when you only talk to other liberal journalists.

At this point, almost every time I hear something that fits the narrative, I assume it’s false. Remember when the black guy from SNL said black women aren’t funny? It started a huge backlash of people listing funny black women and calling him a sexist, racist, horrible dude. They’d have National Enquirer-esque headlines such as “Keenan Thompson Thinks Black Women Aren’t Funny” with his actual quote showing how wrong they are right below it.

“It’s just a tough part of the business,” he said, describing his own personal experience; “in auditions, they just never find ones that are ready.” I knew he never said “Black women aren’t funny.” You can just tell. Of course, he’s lamenting the fact that they can’t find any. He’s BLACK for crying out loud.

I’ve personally been through this false narrative meat grinder a million times. This morning, I learned that selling my shares and having American Indian children can still mean I’m a “racist” who was “fired” (I told the editors I plan to sue so the link may change). All modern journalists need to justify their false allegations is to point to other lazy writers who make stuff up. A few months ago, while discussing food stamp abuse on Hannity, I asked why our poor are so fat. Another guest said it’s because they lack nutritional education, and I explained it’s not a “fat pill” you take once and balloon out. The headline became, “Fox News guest tells Hannity: ‘Overfed’ blacks use food stamps as a ‘fat pill.’” (They changed it to “non-whites” after I threatened the author with violence.)

When I said I find Neil deGrasse Tyson’s fans annoying and added, “He could defecate on them and they’d be dancing in the streets,” Media Matters called it a “race-based attack.” Al Jazeera called me Fox’s “house racist” and spent half an hour discussing the conservative right’s hatred of science. Death threats ensued, coworkers quit, and eventually Facebook revoked my page. I don’t think you’d get the same response if you found Bill Nye annoying.

They don’t just want us to hate blacks. They want us to hate Muslims too. I’ve already discussed the times NBC and ABC hired actors in a failed attempt to find anti-Muslim prejudice, but most recently the Washington Post said “things got ugly” when a woman in Muslim garb asked why the panel sees all Muslims as the problem. Again, you can just tell the story is bullshit. You’re saying to me that the Heritage Foundation was hooting and hollering after a tiny Muslim women dared to make a totally naïve allegation? Yeah, right. The only place that kind of irrational behavior happens is on college campuses. Of course, after the full video was released we saw what really happened: absolutely nothing.

It’s not just racists the media are desperate for. They want evil rich people too. When Tom Shillue dared to say gentrification can be good for a neighborhood, the headline became, “Fox News host: ‘Right-wing people’ love gentrification because poor people smell bad” (they changed the title when Tom called them out but you can still see it in the URL). I know Tom. He lives in the Bronx and he loves how his neighbors smell. When he read that headline, he thought it was from The Onion.

Richard Grenell felt the same way when he learned he was a “Republican strategist” hired to make Bergdahl look bad. “I saw one of the soldiers on Twitter saying he wanted to talk but he was concerned with the backlash,” Grenell told me in a brief public conversation. “We spoke through direct message and I offered my firm’s assistance pro bono. There was no ‘strategy.’”

Evil poor people are also crucial fodder for the lazy narrative machine if they’re white. Rednecks draw almost as much ire as fake Tom Shillue aristocrats. When the patriarch of Duck Dynasty said homosexuality is a sin, the media almost shut the show down. Anyone who has both a dictionary and a Bible can see he was simply stating a hatefact. The show remained popular, so a smear campaign began calling the Dynasty frauds for having frosted tips and appearing in corny family photos. For the record, few things are more redneck than having a Sears portrait done. The truth is, Phil Robertson grew up dirt poor, eating frogs. He got educated and sent his son to business school, but culturally, this family’s history is white trash. Unfortunately, if you talk to anyone in journalism who doesn’t work at Fox, they will laugh at you for not taking their evidence of a hoax for granted.

Occasionally, the media’s need to vilify tradition can get so extreme, you think you’re watching a horror movie. AP recently had to run a retraction of a story that claimed Catholics were starving orphans to death and stuffing their bodies in septic tanks. The media elite ran with it and the fake mass graves made headlines despite there being no evidence of this whatsoever. The actual number of recorded bodies the nuns put in septic tanks is zero. How about we see that same kind of enthusiasm for Islam’s transgressions? They got dead kids out the wazoo.

The media also love a good pervert. Elmo’s too black and gay, but successful white guys such as Dov Charney and Terry Richardson are perfect. Charney was recently fired from American Apparel because he allegedly used an employee as a sex slave. That’s the end of the story for most papers, but anyone with more than a couple of minutes to spare can dig up the disgusting (NSFW) emails she sent to him after she stopped working there.

Similarly, anyone who defends Terry Richardson is a “rape apologist” after a woman claimed she regretted having consensual sex with him once and came to this conclusion years later. The media ran with it, but when a recent cover story in New York Magazine noticed her with several different hairdos over years of sexual photos she replied, “Jesus Christ, I have no explanation for that.” She contacted the writer and explained, “I’d be scared this undermines my credibility but if anything I think it shows I was/am more traumatized by the experience than I thought.” This was the only remotely fair article written about Richardson and one of the few that caught some of the glaring examples of fraud that surround the story. What shocks me most about his case is the lack of backlash from women who really did suffer sexual assault. Fake stories like this trivialize their trauma. Aren’t they mad at these phonies?

Once again, the crusaders for justice are damning the same souls they’re pretending to save. I’m reminded of the book Please Stop Helping Us: How Liberals Make It Harder for Blacks to Succeed, which just came out. When you make up stories for the greater good, you hurt everyone. Now, when a real hate crime happens or someone really does rape an employee or a black person is genuinely blocked from a job or we hear of mass graves in sewers, 78% of the public is going to think “Yeah, right.” That’s what a quarter century of crying wolf will do. Way to go, freedom writers.

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Re: Anthony Cumia succumbs to twitter pozz?
« Reply #197 on: July 27, 2014, 08:33:23 AM »
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I’m reminded of the book Please Stop Helping Us: How Liberals Make It Harder for Blacks to Succeed, which just came out.

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Mr. Riley, I believe you are sadly mistaken.

I am a black male, raised only by my mother, a recipient of financial assistance as a result of affirmative action, a former science teacher, a former Peace Corps volunteer, a graduate of Columbia University, and presently I am in the process of completing my Bachelors of Nursing, which will undoubtedly lead to employment that I would consider to be worthy of praise. I also am arguably the least successful of my other three siblings.

Statistics, a course that I took and got over a 100 percent in, are so bogus. They can paint what ever picture you want them to paint. Mr. Riley, you say affirmative action doesn't work but I can personally tell you that it worked well for me and my siblings.

It would be illogical to conclude that my experience is some sort of anomaly or worse yet a fluke.

The answer should not be to stop affirmative action but rather increase and improve our efforts. I guarantee all gaps would be removed in a blink of an eye if all Blacks were allowed to go to any college of their choosing, free of charge, if they majored in academic disciplines such as science, technology, engineering and mathematics. Of course, some would need to be elevated to the minimal academic levels needed for them to succeed in those courses but that is something that the colleges can be responsible for and have been able to do so successfully in the past. One example of such success at developing young students coming from struggling schools is what took place at CUNY schools in NYC at a time when they had open enrollment.

I can't believe I am the only person who sees this. Maybe I am an anomaly. Maybe I'm Neo and this is really the Matrix.

Oh Lord. Grant me patience.


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Do an imagination experiment and see where it leads you. Eliminate or dramatically reduce "the crutches" Riley thinks that the government supplies. This will not increase the money or attention paid to poor schools (whether white or black) and nothing addresses the underlying and often unconscious skin color bias that exists in the majority white population.

For centuries European society discriminated against gypsies and still does. They receive little or no economic support as far as I know and they still can't get "accepted" or get decent schooling or jobs. The population of Jews, whose general level of education for centuries far exceeded that of Christian culture surrounding them, could not until after WWII and the establishment of Israel make much economic headway without disguising or eliminating their "Jewishness" including here in the United States. The bias of the larger culture is such that it swamps that of minorities -- even in the US where we theoretically have laws against discrimination. Remember red lining? Banks offering better interest rates to whites than blacks with the same educational background and income? Nothing he suggests affects that kind of insidious bias that is such a soul killer.

Riley's notions remind me of the tough love advice they handed out 20 years ago to deal with wayward adolescents: no more support, let 'em sink or swim. "That's how they'll learn." Lots of lost lives and souls came out of that. It's Darwinian in origin and supported today by those who desire above all to provide welfare for business but not to individuals. Why such money support doesn't make business just as dependent and lazy is something no one apparently thinks to investigate because for them "it can't happen." But what, if anything, does he think will "incentivize" African Americans if they continue to meet with the same bias that's existed for centuries? Remember, we presently have a Congress that has continually verbalized antagonism, if not overt hatred, toward a black President before he even took office -- and his education and intellectual level runs rings around most of them. What is Riley's alternative to the negative bunk that lives inside the head of the other guy and that keeps you "in your place" no matter how brilliant you are? Remember, most people aren't brilliant; they are average. Numbers and studies do not erase bias and I don't see how getting rid of policies that have changed the face of the US will make it better. (I am old enough to remember what it used to be before these programs. It isn't pretty now but it was downright ugly then.)

I'm still waiting for the Conservative policies that actually work without blaming the victims.


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Re: Anthony Cumia succumbs to twitter pozz?
« Reply #198 on: July 27, 2014, 10:52:10 AM »
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I am a black male, raised only by my mother

Why does he say the same thing twice?

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« Reply #199 on: July 27, 2014, 01:04:35 PM »
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I am a black male, raised only by my mother

Why does he say the same thing twice?
He said mother, not grandmother.