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The Alt Right Dumping Ground
« on: August 28, 2016, 06:38:48 PM »
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Just post random shit from the alt right that you find interesting that others would enjoy.

https://soundcloud.com/fashthenation/week-54-mcfeels-and-halberstram-alt-right-vs-alt-lite

Latest episode of Fash the Nation has one of the hosts going HAM over Trump's potential pivoting of immigration.  I like Fash the Nation and seem fairly grounded in their political analysis.  Although they are unabashed white nationalists, they realize that most people aren't going to subscribe to 1488 gas the kikes type of white nationalism, and try to be reasoned in their analysis.

The Weekly Narrative is pretty good as well.  The Daily Shoah can be hit or miss for my tastes although it is considered the main TRS podcast.

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Re: The Alt Right Dumping Ground
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2016, 06:51:47 PM »
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Re: The Alt Right Dumping Ground
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2016, 06:55:28 PM »
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Re: The Alt Right Dumping Ground
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2016, 07:21:12 PM »
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http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/53743.html

An interesting discussion on the Alt-Right from a retired doctor in his 70s.


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Trump is the candidate chiefly because of immigration, both illegal Hispanic and Muslim. The success of BREXIT is probably another example of the power of immigration as an issue to “Natural Conservatives” which are not the same as American “Cultural Conservatives,” which are mostly about religion, not culture.

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Natural liberals, who instinctively enjoy diversity and are happy with radical social change – so long as it’s in an egalitarian direction – are now represented by both sides of the political establishment. Natural conservatives, meanwhile, have been slowly abandoned by Republicans — and other conservative parties in other countries. Having lost faith in their former representatives, they now turn to new ones — Donald Trump and the alternative right.

I am certainly not a member of the youth group that the authors say they represent but I am right with them in my sympathy.

As an aside, you guys might enjoy his writings about the increasing corporatization of medicine, and also his stories of growing up on the South Side of Chicago when it was still primarily middle-class white. He also has some good pieces about the Trump preference cascade. http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/author/michael-kennedy

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Re: The Alt Right Dumping Ground
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2016, 10:21:10 PM »
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The shoah can be sort of off putting with the extreme language and jokes but I find there is often really good discussion.  Especially from the person on that podcast named Mike Enoch.  He definitely brings interesting perspectives.  Shoah is great because they handle politics plus cultural and meta political issues.  Fash the nation is often very good.  Weekly Narrative is just ok...

I guess most of the alt-right podcasts are directly from the right stuff.  Is there any other good podcasts out there?

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Re: The Alt Right Dumping Ground
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2016, 10:27:30 PM »
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I guess most of the alt-right podcasts are directly from the right stuff.  Is there any other good podcasts out there?
David Duke does a show every day I think. I haven't really listened to it though, so I've no idea if it's good.
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Re: The Alt Right Dumping Ground
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2016, 10:37:28 PM »
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Is there any other good podcasts out there?

'Fash the Nation' is another pretty popular one.  Here's a giant list of podcasts user F38 made on TRS:

> * [2Kevins](http://2kevins.com/archives/category/podcasts) - www.VDare.com
> * [AM Grey](https://www.soundcloud.com/adamgray-577846681) - Christian, pro-family
> * [Ascending the Tower](http://www.socialmatter.net/category/ascending-the-tower/) - SocialMatter.net
> * [Beyond the Wall](https://forum.therightstuff.biz/topic/15888/beyond-the-wall-episode-3-fash-the-wall-beto-the-narco) - White Mexicans
> * [Cascadia News Network](https://soundcloud.com/cascadia-news-network) - Cascadia
> * [CounterCurrents Podcast](http://www.counter-currents.com/tag/podcasts/) - Counter-Currents.com
> * [Darwin Digest](https://soundcloud.com/darwin-digest) - Science
> * [Exodus Americanus](http://www.exodusamericanus.com/audio.html) - ExodusAmericanus.com
> * [Fash the Nation](https://radio.therightstuff.biz/category/shows/fash-the-nation/) - US politics
> * [Hammer Podcast](https://soundcloud.com/noose_zeiger) - Rhetorical strategy
> * [Hidden Mysteries Radio](http://hiddenmysteriesradio.com/hidden-mysteries-radio-archives/) - Paranormal & occult
> * [KulturKampf](https://radio.therightstuff.biz/category/shows/echo-free-philosophy/) - Philosophy
> * [Manifest Destiny]() - North American New Right
> * [Minor Details](https://archive.org/details/MinorDetails1PunchingRigh) - ???
> * [Nationalist Public Radio](https://soundcloud.com/jfairwater) - News, arts & entertainment
> * [Nationalist Review Online](https://soundcloud.com/the-nation-of-one) - ???
> * [New Europe Radio](https://soundcloud.com/neweuroperadio) - Ryan Faulk's podcast
> * [New Tech Reality](https://m.soundcloud.com/new-tech-reality) - Technology
> * [Political Cesspool](http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/archive/) - ThePoliticalCesspool.org
> * [Radio Aryan](www.radioaryan.com) - RadioAryan.com
> * [Radio Derb](http://www.vdare.com/radios) - John Derbyshire's podcast
> * [Radio Free Columbia](https://soundcloud.com/radiofreecolumbia) - ???
> * [Radio Free Northwest](http://northwestfront.org/media/radio-free-northwest/) - NorthwestFront.org
> * [Radio Stormer](http://www.dailystormer.com/section/radio/) - DailyStomer.com
> * [Radix Podcast](http://www.radixjournal.com/podcasts/) - RadixJournal.com
> * [Rebel Yell]( https://archive.org/details/@musonius_rufus) - Southron Nationalism
> * [Red Dawn](https://soundcloud.com/gregory-ritter-594331905) - ???
> * [Red Ice Radio](https://redice.tv/red-ice-radio) - RedIce.tv
> * [Red Ice Radio 3-Fourteen](https://redice.tv/radio-3fourteen) - RedIce.tv
> * [Ride The Lightning](https://soundcloud.com/unitedright) - ???
> * [Right On Radio](https://www.righton.net/radio/) - RightOn.net
> * [Rome is Burning](http://romeisburning.show/) - Media & entertainment review
> * [Sedition Cast](https://soundcloud.com/sheev-667779711) - ???
> * [Sunshine Shitposting](https://radio.therightstuff.biz/category/shows/floridacast/) - Florida
> * [The Convict Report](https://soundcloud.com/the-dingoes) - Australia
> * [The Daily Shoah](https://radio.therightstuff.biz/category/shows/the-daily-shoah/)
> * [The Fatherland](https://radio.therightstuff.biz/tag/thefatherland/) - Fatherhood & men's issues
> * [The Pressure Project](http://www.thepressureproject.com/pressure-to-power-podcast/) - ThePressureProject.com
> * [The Waifview](https://soundcloud.com/thewaifview) - Motherhood & women's issues
> * [The War Room](https://soundcloud.com/vandal-void/the-war-room-episode-1-haight-and-manning) - Veterans/Military
> * [The Weekly Narrative](https://soundcloud.com/theweeklynarrative) - News & current-affairs
> * [The Young Hwytes](https://radio.therightstuff.biz/tag/theyounghwytes/) - Youth issues
> * [This Hour Has 88 Minutes](https://soundcloud.com/slvg2) - Canada
> * [Traditional Right Podcast](https://www.traditionalright.com/category/podcast/) - TraditionalRight.com
> * [Vandal Void Radio](http://www.vandalvoid.com/#!podcasts/cx0f) - VandalVoid.com
> * [Weimerica Weekly](http://www.socialmatter.net/category/weimerica-weekly/) - SocialMatter.net
> * [White Hot Takes](https://soundcloud.com/whitehottakes) - Political commentary
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Re: The Alt Right Dumping Ground
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2016, 10:38:25 PM »
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The shoah can be sort of off putting with the extreme language and jokes but I find there is often really good discussion.  Especially from the person on that podcast named Mike Enoch.  He definitely brings interesting perspectives.  Shoah is great because they handle politics plus cultural and meta political issues.  Fash the nation is often very good.  Weekly Narrative is just ok...

I guess most of the alt-right podcasts are directly from the right stuff.  Is there any other good podcasts out there?

If you find the language of the goys on TDS off putting then I hesitate to suggest him, but Chris Cantwell's show Radical Agenda went from being kind of a faggy ancap/libertarian/anti-police show to full fash a year or so ago and it can be entertaining at times. Cantwell is more of a really pissed off ranter though, so keep that in mind - I introduced a couple of friends to TRS Radio via Fash the Nation because they were starving for right-wing political analysis but I haven't shown them any Cantwell yet because it can be really angry next-level kinda shit.

TDS talk about helicopter rides half-jokingly because we're not there yet. Chris Cantwell is livid that we're not flying helis round the clock right this minute in a "can you believe this fucking shit?" kind of way. That kind of vibe.

Red Ice Radio puts a lot of stuff on Youtube too, and they're usually pretty good.

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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2016, 10:40:07 PM »
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Weimerica Weekly is a good podcast.  I like 28 Sherman/Son of Brock Landers but he tends to turn into Helen Lovejoy occasionally.  So some of his podcasts will be a be a little eyerolling at times.

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Re: The Alt Right Dumping Ground
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2016, 11:14:53 PM »
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Can I ask you guys a serious, non trolling question?

Do you seriously like fascism as a form of government and want a national socialist government in America?

I'm trying to understand because I can't tell if it's just Fuck You Liberal Dad edginess to provoke the left or if you are sincere.
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Re: The Alt Right Dumping Ground
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2016, 11:44:45 PM »
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I don't know what I am. By that, I mean I don't know what political label best applies to what I believe. Most far right ideologies have either been turned into checklists of cartoonish evil post-WWII or are tied to stuff I fundamentally disagree with (or both).

Modern definitions of Fascism and National Socialism both include total state control and subordination of the individual tied to imperialist aggression. I don't support those things, but then again there have been Fascist movements that kind of contradicted those positions - early Italian Fascism was one of those volatile political things that was both anti-left and anti-right and then it was far right and then it wasn't and then it was etc. etc. When Mussolini got rescued by the Nazis and reestablished his own government in northern Italy he blamed a lot of the country's failures on conservatives IIRC. The Falangists in Spain allied themselves with Catholic monarchists. So it gets weird.

Ramzpaul has a good recent video talking about National Socialism versus the National Socialist German Workers Party versus Neo-Nazism. I'm not a Neo-Nazi, because they're almost always dummies trying to play the role of the caricature created in the wake of WWII. I'm not a "Nazi" because even though I'm of German ancestry I wasn't born in Germany and this isn't the 1930's. It doesn't make sense to ape Hitler's NSDAP here and now for a huge number of reasons.

I'm an ethnic nationalist. I'm anti-globalist. I'm "counter-semitic". I'm against crony capitalism. I think every race of people should be entitled to self-determination, and whites deserve homeland(s) just as much as everyone else. We don't necessarily have to get violent domestically, and I'm against nation building interventionist wars. One of our chief problems is forced demographic change that is being done to undermine the fabric of our society - Hart–Celler in '65 was a dagger to our nation's heart and it was done deliberately. A recent episode of The Daily Shoah had a good discussion about multiculturalism and forced diversity being a kind of corporate union-busting scheme that the left bought into because they realized it could give them permanent voting blocs.

I don't want to 888 too much.
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Re: The Alt Right Dumping Ground
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2016, 11:48:45 PM »
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I'm not a fascist despite the name but I wholeheartedly support any group which will crack some radical lefty skulls.

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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2016, 11:56:46 PM »
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I'm not a fascist despite the name but I wholeheartedly support any group which will crack some radical lefty skulls.

Also this.

And if the U.S. were still >80% huwhite the way we were in the 1980s I'd probably be more of a MUH CONSTITUTION type. But our magic piece of paper and our magic dirt won't save us if America is majority Toltec in 25 years, because the squat Indios of the future won't give a fuck about any of our national heritage.

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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2016, 12:00:56 AM »
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Daily Shoah is fucking top notch, I just found them this week and have been chewing through episodes at work. They're funny dudes but super articulate when they wanna be, it's some of the best and most honest political talk I've heard in a while. They had a recent interview with some gawker fag and it was great on both ends.
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Re: The Alt Right Dumping Ground
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2016, 12:02:56 AM »
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Can I ask you guys a serious, non trolling question?

Do you seriously like fascism as a form of government and want a national socialist government in America?

I'm trying to understand because I can't tell if it's just Fuck You Liberal Dad edginess to provoke the left or if you are sincere.

Absolutely not, on both accounts. All I want is sensible immigration laws and respect for the first and second amendments. Unfortunately, these get conflated with "scientific racism" and & literal nazism in 2016.

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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2016, 12:53:55 AM »
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Can I ask you guys a serious, non trolling question?

Do you seriously like fascism as a form of government and want a national socialist government in America?

I'm trying to understand because I can't tell if it's just Fuck You Liberal Dad edginess to provoke the left or if you are sincere.

I think libertarism is an unworkable government system. But I back libertarian or libertarian-leaning candidates because I believe we need to be a little more in that direction.

Fascism isn't a good form of government, but I think we need a little bit more of "No, we aren't  going to create extra bureaucracy and clog our legal system up just because you want to wear a dress and pretend you are woman and not a faggot."

Its more of a re-correction to bring us back to center.

I'm not a fascist despite the name but I wholeheartedly support any group which will crack some radical lefty skulls.

Also this.

And if the U.S. were still >80% huwhite the way we were in the 1980s I'd probably be more of a MUH CONSTITUTION type. But our magic piece of paper and our magic dirt won't save us if America is majority Toltec in 25 years, because the squat Indios of the future won't give a fuck about any of our national heritage.

also this.
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« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2016, 03:13:08 AM »
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I'm not a Neo-Nazi, because they're almost always dummies trying to play the role of the caricature created in the wake of WWII. It doesn't make sense to ape Hitler's NSDAP here and now for a huge number of reasons.

I'm an ethnic nationalist. I'm anti-globalist. I'm "counter-semitic". I'm against crony capitalism. I think every race of people should be entitled to self-determination, and whites deserve homeland(s) just as much as everyone else

P. much sums up my feelings on the subject too.

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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2016, 06:37:23 AM »
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I'm an ethnic nationalist. I'm anti-globalist. I'm "counter-semitic". I'm against crony capitalism. I think every race of people should be entitled to self-determination, and whites deserve homeland(s) just as much as everyone else. We don't necessarily have to get violent domestically, and I'm against nation building interventionist wars. One of our chief problems is forced demographic change that is being done to undermine the fabric of our society - Hart–Celler in '65 was a dagger to our nation's heart and it was done deliberately.

I think this is probably what could be described as "common ground" among most of alt-right and even some disillusioned leftists such as myself.
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« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2016, 07:00:00 AM »
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I appreciate the honest responses.

I agree with a lot of those basic points myself, but I find myself edging more away from the alt right because it seems to embrace the nazi and literal fascist WN fringe. Wouldn't the alt right do better in gaining mainstream support on things like nationalism, free speech, and enforcement of existing immigration and crime laws if they dropped the nazi 1488 jew trappings?

It reminds me a lot of the Tea Party, where the born again Christian fringe was setting the agenda and becoming more prominent, except this time it's neo Nazi WN types.

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« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2016, 07:05:43 AM »
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I see it more as embracing the stereotypes it has been given by the left than real 1488 gas the kikes.

Just thinking that white people should have a role in society alone makes a segment of the population think you are LITERALLY HITLER.  Unfortunately that segment is pretty influential in modern society.  The left has taken over political discourse and if it is to be taken back, it won't be done by straitjacketed rules.  First you have to say that the current mentality is destructive and that can be messy.  Trump has exposed a lot of truths that we know but the media and Democrats have pretended was not a thing.  Once the left has lost power, we can rebuild it to something more constructive.

The left has no scruples and you don't win by having a political discussion through byzantine rules.  You win by being more ruthless than them until the left has to retreat.  The alt right trolls have done more damage to the left in the past couple years than any MUH PRINCIPLES conservative has done in decades.

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« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2016, 07:26:28 AM »
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I appreciate the honest responses.

I agree with a lot of those basic points myself, but I find myself edging more away from the alt right because it seems to embrace the nazi and literal fascist WN fringe. Wouldn't the alt right do better in gaining mainstream support on things like nationalism, free speech, and enforcement of existing immigration and crime laws if they dropped the nazi 1488 jew trappings?

It reminds me a lot of the Tea Party, where the born again Christian fringe was setting the agenda and becoming more prominent, except this time it's neo Nazi WN types.

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I think it's mostly restricted to the internet; and of course our media culture amplifies everything out of proportion on the right, regardless. For instance, I don't think I've seen literal nazi enthusiasts at Trump rallies.

On the subject of fascism/authoritarianism; I definitely believe that the West is experiencing the last decades of democracy as we know it. The sad part is how this is intentional by the elites, because I simply don't see how democracy is sustainable in a balkanized and sectarian society like the EU or any given Middle Eastern country. Social cohesion is prerequisite for democracy, and this multiculturalism fetish by the left that places no incentive on assimilation (and even despises it) whatsoever is a blueprint for societal disaster not seen in the West since WWII.

To make things short, authoritarianism is definitely on the horizon. The question is, which kind of authoritarianism is it going to be? A neofascist backlash to the scenario described above, or a multinational government like the EU with absurd amounts of executive power? Both options suck, but if I had to choose, it would reluctantly be the former.
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Re: The Alt Right Dumping Ground
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2016, 07:35:10 AM »
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I see it more as embracing the stereotypes it has been given by the left than real 1488 gas the kikes.

Just thinking that white people should have a role in society alone makes a segment of the population think you are LITERALLY HITLER.  Unfortunately that segment is pretty influential in modern society.  The left has taken over political discourse and if it is to be taken back, it won't be done by straitjacketed rules.  First you have to say that the current mentality is destructive and that can be messy.  Trump has exposed a lot of truths that we know but the media and Democrats have pretended was not a thing.  Once the left has lost power, we can rebuild it to something more constructive.

The left has no scruples and you don't win by having a political discussion through byzantine rules.  You win by being more ruthless than them until the left has to retreat.  The alt right trolls have done more damage to the left in the past couple years than any MUH PRINCIPLES conservative has done in decades.

I agree with this. Unironic Neo-Nazi autists may have joined the movement, and thanks to their unstoppable ability to :kermit888: all day long, it seems like they've taken over. In reality though, I think that people are starting to finally tire of being called racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. At this point what you're seeing is a lot of sensible folks going "Oh, I'm a bigot fascist Nazi? Yep, guess I am 1488 race war now, I suppose," while still living their lives as patriotic, moral Americans.


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Re: The Alt Right Dumping Ground
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2016, 08:03:13 AM »
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Can I ask you guys a serious, non trolling question?

Do you seriously like fascism as a form of government and want a national socialist government in America?

I'm trying to understand because I can't tell if it's just Fuck You Liberal Dad edginess to provoke the left or if you are sincere.

No not at all.  I dislike fascism quite a lot.  The problem I have is that I don't trust governments, corporations, or non-governmental organizations.  I generally think that large organizations are prone to corruption, greed, and looking out for the interests of only the owners.  MPC may have a lot of autism, but with regards to SCALE, they are absolutely 100% on point.  Does this mean I am a libertarian?  No, not anymore. 

I have gone Alt Right because it's essentially the only group willing to fight for cultural and national preservation.  Everyone else is either hung up on a one world government situation or globalist corporatism.  Additionally, I'm also a racial realist in the sense that I don't think we should ignore general stats about race and that I think people tend to gravitate towards people who share similar characteristics to themselves.  Dating websites prove over and over that people tend to mostly stick to their own culture and race when dating or marrying.  I don't think this is a coincidence at all.

Though I may seem like it at times, I'm definitely not a 14/88 gas the kikes kind of person.  I just think Jews have a serious issue in the West when it comes to cultural marxism or open borders. 

I honestly don't know what I want at this point beyond the fact that I am completely tired of being called a racist or sexist for merely existing and that I am genuinely concerned for the future for my kids. 

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Re: The Alt Right Dumping Ground
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2016, 09:47:10 AM »
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I don't think we should ignore general stats about race and that I think people tend to gravitate towards people who share similar characteristics to themselves.  Dating websites prove over and over that people tend to mostly stick to their own culture and race when dating or marrying.  I don't think this is a coincidence at all.

This is the one area where I call the stats racist. Silky hair, a fine ass and big ol titties is universal attraction. Your a faggot if all that arrives at your door in a tan package and you don't dive into the box, dick first.

I'll concede black women, but... Dominican, Brazilian and Puerto Ricans are upper echelon. If we can get more dune coons to ditch the burka, who knows? Maybe we'll come to find that Mia Khalifa isn't such a rare treasure burred in the sand. There are a lot of Tila Tequila dinks whores out there and other hot Asians.

We need a study that's all A++ woulds from all around the world, not hit or miss statistics. I wanna know how likely someone is to say "would not" on a clear "would" who happens to be another ethnicity. I need international would/would not analysis that's air tight, goddammit. I'm willing to do my part by analyzing the test cases.
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