The Alt Right Dumping Ground

[post regret]

[St. Pfeifengesicht]

I agree with a lot of those basic points myself, but I find myself edging more away from the alt right because it seems to embrace the nazi and literal fascist WN fringe. Wouldn't the alt right do better in gaining mainstream support on things like nationalism, free speech, and enforcement of existing immigration and crime laws if they dropped the nazi 1488 jew trappings?

The alt right trolls have done more damage to the left in the past couple years than any MUH PRINCIPLES conservative has done in decades.

We're absolutely not going to purge the extremists. That's a bullet train to irrelevance and a grand way to lose all influence and strength to push the Overton Window. The National Review Neocon types and the Democrats are already encouraging entryism into the Alt-Right and they're the same ones always offering helpful advice that would neuter genuine political opposition. Why do you think HRC specifically mentioned Dole and McCain and Romey and everybody else the GOP have been running for years in her speech to lament that the old Republican party was so much nicer and better? It's because they were cuckservative losers.

I use the Nazi and 1488 trappings on here and Twitter both because they're funny and because they're an exaggeration of my beliefs. Remember that article Milo wrote where he framed a lot of this as irony? It isn't. It's exaggeration. There's a huge difference. If they put it up to a vote to start executing Communists via one-way helicopter rides I'd vote yes in a heartbeat. Am I a literal Nazi SS Stormtrooper? Nein. No.

[Ghostse]

I use the Nazi and 1488 trappings on here and Twitter both because they're funny and because they're an exaggeration of my beliefs. Remember that article Milo wrote where he framed a lot of this as irony? It isn't. It's exaggeration. There's a huge difference. If they put it up to a vote to start executing Communists via one-way helicopter rides I'd vote yes in a heartbeat. Am I a literal Nazi SS Stormtrooper? Nein. No.

I see it more as embracing the stereotypes it has been given by the left than real 1488 gas the kikes.

Pretty much these. The lefts and SJWs are used to calling the opposition rayciss to force them to back down. So you embrace the label and then exaggerate it, and they actually have to start using logics and facts.
 

[food desert]

I long for the day of the rope.

[Mad at the Internet]

I long for the day of the rope.

 

You and me both, brother.

[Whig Historian]

We need a study that's all A++ woulds from all around the world, not hit or miss statistics. I wanna know how likely someone is to say "would not" on a clear "would" who happens to be another ethnicity. I need international would/would not analysis that's air tight, goddammit. I'm willing to do my part by analyzing the test cases.

I think there are two factors at work here. One is that men are way more open to relationships with women from other ethnicities than women are. The other is that "would/would not" is different from "want to date and maybe marry," because relationships between people from different cultures are going to face additional hurdles and people are leery of that.

[J Dog]

We need a study that's all A++ woulds from all around the world, not hit or miss statistics. I wanna know how likely someone is to say "would not" on a clear "would" who happens to be another ethnicity. I need international would/would not analysis that's air tight, goddammit. I'm willing to do my part by analyzing the test cases.

So the "no reasonable wouldn't" standard.

A few months back I went through all my African-American "woulds" and learned that all of them, without exception, were at most half-black.   Along with blacks, curry Indians and Jap broads are two other groups that I don't think are producing perfect 10s. 

[St. Pfeifengesicht]

Riding though the hood with my Smith & Wesson
The screams intensify while the Black Lives Lessen

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdvKBfjS8Rg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdvKBfjS8Rg</a>

Impeach a nigger
Expose the Jew
Deport the spics and the Muslims too
Teach the traitors
Ignore the fags
Save our lands from Jewish grasps

[Death Camp for Cutie]

Wasn't the Francoist post-Falange movement a fairly ideal form of fascism that worked to purge communist ideology of which the end game was reforming into a structured democracy? Isn't Franco now thought of more as a hero of Spain rather than on a hitler/Mussolini

[Bill Wilkins]

I agree with a lot of those basic points myself, but I find myself edging more away from the alt right because it seems to embrace the nazi and literal fascist WN fringe. Wouldn't the alt right do better in gaining mainstream support on things like nationalism, free speech, and enforcement of existing immigration and crime laws if they dropped the nazi 1488 jew trappings?

The alt right trolls have done more damage to the left in the past couple years than any MUH PRINCIPLES conservative has done in decades.

We're absolutely not going to purge the extremists. That's a bullet train to irrelevance and a grand way to lose all influence and strength to push the Overton Window. The National Review Neocon types and the Democrats are already encouraging entryism into the Alt-Right and they're the same ones always offering helpful advice that would neuter genuine political opposition. Why do you think HRC specifically mentioned Dole and McCain and Romey and everybody else the GOP have been running for years in her speech to lament that the old Republican party was so much nicer and better? It's because they were cuckservative losers.

That is the same reason why Obama "praised" Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney, and John McCain in his press conference after Trump attacked Khan. Leftists like him know that these type of globalist neocons are out of touch losers holding on to a dying creed (hence why they want them as opposition). Obama's smug narcissism renders him unable to understand that positively mentioning the #NeverTrump assholes only galvanizes more support for Trump. I don't care about this "alt right" label at all. In fact, wasting time disputing labels ascribed to you by lefties only gives them their desired edge over you.

Also, I agree wholeheartedly in refusing to go out of my way to condemn the "alt right extremists". Sorry lefties, but you fucked that one up. You didn't just fuck it up, you made it a project. You have consistently labeled anyone not down with your language policing, open borders-outsourcing ideology a racist, nazi, bigot, etc. for the last twenty years. Remember how you were viciously calling open border outsourcers like McCain, Romney, and the Bush family racists and nazis not even ten years ago? And now you have the audacity to claim that Trump is any different? You have demonstrated time and again your claims that any and all opposition to you are racists and nazis, no matter the issue or argument. We have seen what happens to anyone trying to reasonably meet you half way on any issue involving immigration, race, "bigotry", etc. and the way you deceptively backstab and destroy them. It's simply over.

The next famous individual that Al Sharpton demands an apology tour of for talking honestly about crime statistics or high profile shootings simply needs to publicly tell him to go fuck himself. Sharpton's power—and by extension, the left—relies on humiliating his victims. People like him have never given a shit about facts to begin with.

Broadly speaking, this "alt right" in my view can be summed up as a nationalist struggle against globalism, with a dose of being politically incorrect. Thats all it is.

[blasting_asshole]

Sharpton has gone full circle and is actively creating and encouraging racism.

He will not take an open/shut case of racist police brutality. He doesn't want everyone to agree "yes, this is police brutality and something needs to be done to stop it." That doesn't keep the victim wheel turning. It needs to be a strawman case of a thugly dindu getting rightfully gunned down, so people can oppose him and the BLM crew.

Not only does he have no intention of stopping racism, he want to keep it alive and well so the kike machine will forever provide fried chicken sheckles.

[nerdball]

Sharpton has gone full circle and is actively creating and encouraging racism.

He will not take an open/shut case of racist police brutality. He doesn't want everyone to agree "yes, this is police brutality and something needs to be done to stop it." That doesn't keep the victim wheel turning. It needs to be a strawman case of a thugly dindu getting rightfully gunned down, so people can oppose him and the BLM crew.

Not only does he have no intention of stopping racism, he want to keep it alive and well so the kike machine will forever provide fried chicken sheckles.

I have nothing to add, I just love that smiley.

[Affirmative Action Hero]

Wasn't the Francoist post-Falange movement a fairly ideal form of fascism that worked to purge communist ideology of which the end game was reforming into a structured democracy? Isn't Franco now thought of more as a hero of Spain rather than on a hitler/Mussolini

Nah, the country got cucked fast, socialists took over in less than 10 years after his death, fucked up the economy hard and has tried to get rid of any reference to him. Nowadays Spaniards are dirt poor and whine about being cheated by the politicians they voted for while the rapefugee locusts pass by to greener pastures, proof why spics can't have democracy and are better off with fascism unlike the anglo states that embrace individualism more and have had a more stable history of government.

[Dem Wypipo]

Spain is utterly fucked.  Over 50% of the youf is unemployed, economic growth is at or near zero, and the mayor of Madrid hung a giant "RAPEFUGEES WELCOME" banner to spite the conservative government.  Only twist is that the North African rapists want nothing to do with Spain since they have little gibs to hand out.  If migrants do come to Spain it is so they can make a beeline to France or the UK.

From my time in Spain a few months ago I can tell you it's as if Franco never existed.

[Hollywood Shabat Goy Yaro]

One of the biggest impetuses for me calling myself alt right is the nonstop Magic Constitution fetishism the tea party and the modern cuckservative movement are so obsessed with.  Repeating magic words from the Constitution isn't a spell from D&D that stop your enemies in their tracks and does nothing to win elections and push right wing policy forward.

Also on the day of the rope I'd get such a hate boner seeing the horrified faces of prominent cuckservatives as their families are pulled from their homes and shot like the traitorous rats they are. 

[LawnGnome]

One of the biggest impetuses for me calling myself alt right is the nonstop Magic Constitution fetishism the tea party and the modern cuckservative movement are so obsessed with.  Repeating magic words from the Constitution isn't a spell from D&D that stop your enemies in their tracks and does nothing to win elections and push right wing policy forward.

Also on the day of the rope I'd get such a hate boner seeing the horrified faces of prominent cuckservatives as their families are pulled from their homes and shot like the traitorous rats they are.

Nah, shoot the cuckservatives, deport the families to central Africa. Same effect, more fun.

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0]

I agree with a lot of those basic points myself, but I find myself edging more away from the alt right because it seems to embrace the nazi and literal fascist WN fringe. Wouldn't the alt right do better in gaining mainstream support on things like nationalism, free speech, and enforcement of existing immigration and crime laws if they dropped the nazi 1488 jew trappings?

The alt right trolls have done more damage to the left in the past couple years than any MUH PRINCIPLES conservative has done in decades.

We're absolutely not going to purge the extremists. That's a bullet train to irrelevance and a grand way to lose all influence and strength to push the Overton Window. The National Review Neocon types and the Democrats are already encouraging entryism into the Alt-Right and they're the same ones always offering helpful advice that would neuter genuine political opposition. Why do you think HRC specifically mentioned Dole and McCain and Romey and everybody else the GOP have been running for years in her speech to lament that the old Republican party was so much nicer and better? It's because they were cuckservative losers.

I use the Nazi and 1488 trappings on here and Twitter both because they're funny and because they're an exaggeration of my beliefs. Remember that article Milo wrote where he framed a lot of this as irony? It isn't. It's exaggeration. There's a huge difference. If they put it up to a vote to start executing Communists via one-way helicopter rides I'd vote yes in a heartbeat. Am I a literal Nazi SS Stormtrooper? Nein. No.

But do you really think the mainstream people who you could sway from the grip of the SJW are ever going to come around to Nazism? Isn't it more likely to consign the alt right to irrelevance if the "kill Jews/blacks Hitler did nothing wrong" planks are so firmly ensconced in your platform?

If ideological purity is the goal and keeping the lame normies out is desirable, how is the alt right really different from neo Nazis or other WN treehouse fringe groups?

To me, when "the day of the rope" is something you talk about even jokingly, you're gonna push anyone slightly interested in issues of free speech and anti globalism back to the left. "Well maybe Hillary is right, I guess nationalists really are evil Nazis, I'm just gonna support open borders."

[J Dog]

But do you really think the mainstream people who you could sway from the grip of the SJW are ever going to come around to Nazism? Isn't it more likely to consign the alt right to irrelevance if the "kill Jews/blacks Hitler did nothing wrong" planks are so firmly ensconced in your platform?

Do you really think human nature has so fundamentally changed that the sway of Nazism could never appeal to the modern man?

I sincerely believe ideology is tied to the necessities of human existence.  Things like civil rights, multiculturalism and snowflake identities have only taken hold because we live in a time of unlimited resources and no existential threats.  Take away people's safety, security and comfort, and things will change.  Quickly.  Its easy to poo-poo the holocaust today because we don't live under the conditions in which it occurred.  But I think if push came to shove, most people, even kikesuckers like you, would rather live in a strong, aggressive and morally grey country that protects its interests than a country like modern Germany, which constantly victimizes its citizens to defend the interests of outsiders. 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v4.0]

But do you really think the mainstream people who you could sway from the grip of the SJW are ever going to come around to Nazism? Isn't it more likely to consign the alt right to irrelevance if the "kill Jews/blacks Hitler did nothing wrong" planks are so firmly ensconced in your platform?

Do you really think human nature has so fundamentally changed that the sway of Nazism could never appeal to the modern man?

I sincerely believe ideology is tied to the necessities of human existence.  Things like civil rights, multiculturalism and snowflake identities have only taken hold because we live in a time of unlimited resources and no existential threats.  Take away people's safety, security and comfort, and things will change.  Quickly.  Its easy to poo-poo the holocaust today because we don't live under the conditions in which it occurred.  But I think if push came to shove, most people, even kikesuckers like you, would rather live in a strong, aggressive and morally grey country that protects its interests than a country like modern Germany, which constantly victimizes its citizens to defend the interests of outsiders.

I think there is a middle ground between being a doormat of a nation and fascism. So you would prefer to live in an authoritarian dictatorship with one party, speech and censorship laws, and secret police?

You also say civil rights are bad. So you really believe it should be the law to keep people as an underclass or give them less rights? 

[nerdball]

What the alt-right is doing, whether by design or not, is to use extremist rhetoric to push the conversation back towards the right, just as the left has done to push the country in a more socialist direction. In essence, using Alinsky's rules against the people who have wielded them to the country's detriment for the past umpteen decades.

The reason it's uncomfortable is largely because no one is used to hearing a full-throated defense of America anymore. People who have tried have been painted "Birchers, "inbred rednecks," "illiterate," and so on for at least forty years now. Combine that with the slide of the GOP into "No True Scotsman: The Political Party" as they try to determine who's a real conservative, and you haven't had anyone speak up for the people of this country in a long-ass time.

[J Dog]

I think there is a middle ground between being a doormat of a nation and fascism. So you would prefer to live in an authoritarian dictatorship with one party, speech and censorship laws, and secret police?

I don't see it as that big a leap between what we have now and what you're describing.  Personally, I lean more libertarian than authoritarian and would love to depower large portions of the federal government and pass strict corruption and conflict of interest laws with harsh penalties, thereby removing the incentive people like Hillary Clinton have for seeking political power.  But if the choice is between an authoritarian government that represents my interests and the one that represents the interests of muslims, Mexican and criminal scum, I'm choosing the former.

You also say civil rights are bad. So you really believe it should be the law to keep people as an underclass or give them less rights?

I didn't say they were bad, per se, but I think a lot of the excesses (gay marriage, a child's right to SRS, racial equity instead of equality, the wage gap, abortion, etc, etc) are the result of people having no economic incentive to oppose them.  If things go south economically, people are going to close ranks and a lot of things we think are important today are going to be thrown right out the fucking window.

[[SWOLE]Grode Jar]

What the alt-right is doing, whether by design or not, is to use extremist rhetoric to push the conversation back towards the right, just as the left has done to push the country in a more socialist direction. In essence, using I love cock more than I love cock more than I love cock more than Alinsky does does does's rules against the people who have wielded them to the country's detriment for the past umpteen decades.

The reason it's uncomfortable is largely because no one is used to hearing a full-throated defense of America anymore. People who have tried have been painted "Birchers, "inbred rednecks," "illiterate," and so on for at least forty years now. Combine that with the slide of the GOP into "No True Scotsman: The Political Party" as they try to determine who's a real conservative, and you haven't had anyone speak up for the people of this country in a long-ass time.

That is the most perfect description of the GOP that I have ever seen.  It became a constant stream of "You're a RINO!  No, YOU'RE A RINO!  NO YOU ARE!  NO U!  REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!" ad infinitum all the while the liberals were manipulating them and using their discord to push through terrible regulations and laws.

[St. Pfeifengesicht]

But do you really think the mainstream people who you could sway from the grip of the SJW are ever going to come around to Nazism? Isn't it more likely to consign the alt right to irrelevance if the "kill Jews/blacks Hitler did nothing wrong" planks are so firmly ensconced in your platform?

If ideological purity is the goal and keeping the lame normies out is desirable, how is the alt right really different from neo Nazis or other WN treehouse fringe groups?

To me, when "the day of the rope" is something you talk about even jokingly, you're gonna push anyone slightly interested in issues of free speech and anti globalism back to the left. "Well maybe Hillary is right, I guess nationalists really are evil Nazis, I'm just gonna support open borders."

Here's the hangup you're having. When people start considering themselves Alt-Right it's not because one of us stomped up to them and did this



People are going Alt-Right because we're telling them that it's perfectly fine and normal to actually believe what they see and hear. We make offensive jokes which certainly can be off-putting to normies, but we're also happy to provide sourced statistics and other hatefact resources. The GAS THE KIKES, RACE WAR NOW stuff might make it hard to approach us objectively and yet every Trayvon and Big Mike nets us new people because we're (on the whole) young, charming, funny, and up front about a lot of uncomfortable things. We're that "open and honest conversation about race" the left keeps disingenuously asking for and boy do they hate it.

[St. Pfeifengesicht]

Here's an example inspired by our own dear forums. Let's say you're a basic bitch evangelical. Maybe you believe there are differences between the races, maybe not. But you probably love Jewish people, as most well-meaning middle American Protestants do. One of SS's new guys posted this in the college SJW thread and it's absolutely true:

Evangelical Christians are the most philosemitic group on the entire planet and Jews fucking hate them.

Now if you're Luther N. McMethodist, Jr. and you see that quote it's easy to just say "Well, now, I don't believe that at all! After all, we're a Judeo-Christian nation!". On it's own it's as easy to dismiss as a 14/88 shitpost. But let's say some goy follows it up with these:





That's Gallup and Pew, not Stormfront and /pol/. What's the takeaway? What seeds are planted?

Jews do not believe the same thing you do. As a matter of fact, Jews' beliefs are the opposite of yours on moral issues. Jews are more likely than Atheists to think abortion and queers are A-OK. Not only do Jews not believe the same things you do, they hate you even though you worship them. Jews in that second poll preferred Muslims to evangelical Christians, for fuck's sake.

I saw somebody on /pol/ IIRC point out that the red pill is an easy to understand pop culture reference for what is going on thanks to the Matrix, but what we do is more like planting seeds and waiting for mighty hate oaks to grow.

[As a white male I]

 Not only do Jews not believe the same things you do, they hate you even though you worship them. Jews in that second poll preferred Muslims to evangelical Christians, for fuck's sake.

Holy fucking shit.