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1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex
« on: April 16, 2017, 10:40:29 PM »
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1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex. He blames Grindr

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Over the past five months, Matthew Herrick says that 1,100 men have showed up at his home and workplace expecting to have sex with him. Herrick is suing Grindr, the popular dating app for gay and bisexual men, because of it.

According to the complaint, Herrick, 32, is the victim of an elaborate revenge scheme that's playing out on Grindr's platform. An ex-boyfriend of Herrick's, who he says he met on Grindr, has allegedly been creating fake accounts since October 2016. The accounts have Herrick's photos and personal details, including some falsehoods like a claim that that he's HIV positive.

The ex allegedly invites men to Herrick's apartment and the restaurant where he works. Sometimes as many as 16 strangers each day will show up looking for Herrick. In some instances, they are told not to be dissuaded if Herrick is resistant at first, "as part of an agreed upon rape fantasy or role play."

The case raises important questions in the social media age about impersonation, stalking and harassment.

"What are Grindr's legal responsibilities," asks Aaron Mackey, a Frank Stanton legal fellow at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "And what are its corporate and ethical responsibilities to its users when it learns that its platform is being abused in this way?"

Mackey said the answers have big implications.

As with many complaints against tech platforms, Section 230 of the 1996 Communications Decency Act is at play in the Grindr case. It's a unique legal protection that gives a broad layer of immunity to online companies from being held liable for user-generated content. Companies are supposed to act in good faith to protect users.

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In 2015, Grindr used the CDA to prevail in another case. It was found not liable in a suit filed by a man who was arrested for a sexual encounter with a minor he met on the app.

But in Herrick's case, attorneys Carrie Goldberg and Tor Ekeland are relying on different laws. They're alleging product liability, fraud and deceptive business practices, according to an amended complaint filed on March 31.

"Much of our work is about finding the cracks and holes in [Section] 230," said Goldberg, who is known for taking on sexual privacy and revenge porn cases. "Companies don't deserve special protections when their product is dangerous and [Section] 230 doesn't give them protection in such cases."

Originally filed in a New York state court in January, the case was moved to federal court at Grindr's request in February.

According to the complaint, there have been more than 100 reports flagging the fake profiles in Grindr's app, resulting in only generic replies from Grindr ("Thank you for your report.").

Grindr's terms of service state that impersonation accounts aren't permitted, but it's unclear whether Grindr is capable of cracking down on the accounts. A March email from Grindr's counsel said the company cannot search for photographs, according to the complaint. "Grindr claims it cannot control who uses its product and that it lacks the basic software capabilities used by its competitors and the social media industry," it reads.

According to Matthew Zeiler, founder of image recognition startup Clarifai, there are multiple ways for companies to identify specific images on their platforms, and third party providers can help implement these capabilities.

Processes known as image hashing or visual search can detect near duplicate images from being posted on their platforms.

In a statement, Grindr said it's "committed to creating a safe environment through a system of digital and human screening tools, while also encouraging users to report suspicious and threatening activities. While we are constantly improving upon this process, it is important to remember that Grindr is an open platform. Grindr cooperates with law enforcement on a regular basis and does not condone abusive or violent behavior."

Grindr and its attorneys declined to comment further, citing the active litigation.

Last week, Facebook (FB, Tech30) announced new measures to combat the spread of "revenge porn" on its platform. It said it would apply photo-matching to ensure intimate, non-consensual images that have been reported aren't able to be re-uploaded through Facebook's properties, including Messenger and Instagram.

The original complaint against Grindr said that hookup app Scruff, which Herrick's ex was also allegedly using to create fake profiles, was able to remove profiles and ban IP addresses.

CNNTech contacted the ex-boyfriend for comment. He denied setting up fake accounts but declined to comment further.

Neville Johnson of Johnson & Johnson, LLP told CNNTech that there needs to be a law that criminalizes impersonation and protects victims online.

"Legislation has not kept up with the advancement of technology," he said. "[Companies] can identify and stop this kind of stuff -- they just don't want to take on the obligation."

Attorney David Gingras, who frequently defends companies from lawsuits under Section 230, said these types of cases will likely increase.

"There is currently a war between online speech providers and people who are unhappy with that speech. It just seems like it is getting busier. People do the worst things online and it sucks -- but that's not the issue. The issue is who to blame for it."

A lot of cases never make it to court, according to one source who told CNNTech that companies end up striking deals to take down posts, in order to avoid drawn-out legal fees.

Goldberg doesn't plan to back down; she's already planning her next move: pushing Google and Apple to remove Grindr from their app store

"If a court won't hold Grindr responsible for having a dangerous product ... we'd need to examine the liability of the 'sellers' that are making available a dangerous product," she told CNNTech. "This lawsuit puts them on notice that a dangerous product, one purportedly not controllable by its manufacturer, is being downloaded from their marketplaces."

Goldberg likened it to a car battery exploding in a person's face.

"If the manufacturer and seller both know the battery could explode, there's a duty to inform users of the risk," she said. "Not to mention a duty to evaluate whether the product is so dangerous it should be removed from the market altogether."

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Re: 1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2017, 10:51:13 PM »
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This forum, like all iterations before it was started by a small group of people, many of whom have been posting together on various spinoffs going on 15 years now.

Dog's plans for the forum have been extensively discussed with 3 of the other 4 fagmins, via group PM, over a period of months.

The only ones "subverting" the forum here are the swole cru/wn/alt rightards who, by their own admission, want to change this forum from what it was, was intended to be, and what the former and current owners want it to be.

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Re: 1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2017, 11:06:50 PM »
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Boy, neat shouldn't have showed his face on Tim Pool's broadcast!
Get rid of the notion that an eleven year old cannot be stronger than you, I had a kid of similar age do this to be when I was 16 and your size. I'm pretty sure he was stronger than me, this kid is almost certainly stronger than you.

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Re: 1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2017, 12:05:49 AM »
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"Much of our work is about finding the cracks and holes "
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Re: 1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2017, 12:20:40 AM »
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All those hours spent on grindr looking for a single guy to come over, and this guy gets a thousand without even trying  :myecred:

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Re: 1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2017, 12:23:37 AM »
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Gay behavior is totally normal, totally respectable and just like the rest of us.

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Re: 1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2017, 03:51:55 AM »
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Gay behavior is totally normal, totally respectable and just like the rest of us.


-can find sex 24/7 worldwide
-no women's dating bullshit (dating, paying the restaurant bill for weeks but she still won't put out, she regrets fucking you= rape)
-no women's divorce bullshit (she accuses you of molesting the kids, you end up paying her alimony for the rest of your life, your own son calls her new bf Tyrone dad, your exwife takes black cocks in the house you paid for while you move back with your parents)
 

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Re: 1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2017, 04:14:45 AM »
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Gay behavior is totally normal, totally respectable and just like the rest of us.


-can find sex 24/7 worldwide
-no women's dating bullshit (dating, paying the restaurant bill for weeks but she still won't put out, she regrets fucking you= rape)
-no women's divorce bullshit (she accuses you of molesting the kids, you end up paying her alimony for the rest of your life, your own son calls her new bf Tyrone dad, your exwife takes black cocks in the house you paid for while you move back with your parents)
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Re: 1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2017, 07:14:51 AM »
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Gay behavior is totally normal, totally respectable and just like the rest of us.

All they want to do is get married and adopt children.

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Re: 1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2017, 10:36:28 AM »
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Gay behavior is totally normal, totally respectable and just like the rest of us.


-can find sex 24/7 worldwide
-no women's dating bullshit (dating, paying the restaurant bill for weeks but she still won't put out, she regrets fucking you= rape)
-no women's divorce bullshit (she accuses you of molesting the kids, you end up paying her alimony for the rest of your life, your own son calls her new bf Tyrone dad, your exwife takes black cocks in the house you paid for while you move back with your parents)

Someone either reads too much /r9k/, or this is a depressing first-hand account.

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Re: 1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2017, 11:02:27 AM »
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1,100 gay men showed up at his home for sex.

1,099 turned right around on account of his shameful lawn.

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Re: 1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2017, 11:07:22 AM »
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You mean cruising for anonymous sex using online aps isn't a great way to meet normal well adjusted people well color me shocked
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Re: 1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2017, 12:13:51 PM »
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You mean cruising for anonymous sex using online aps isn't a great way to meet normal well adjusted people well color me shocked
I have difficulty imagining gay guys having trouble meeting people irl. Or at least enough to use a dating app  :jesse:
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Re: 1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2017, 02:34:20 PM »
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I have difficulty imagining gay guys having trouble meeting people irl. Or at least enough to use a dating app  :jesse:

I'm guessing Grindr is popular with dudes on the down low or just someone looking to up their partner count without having to go out and meet people. It seems to me to be a lot like Tinder, where people are just looking for a no hassle hook up.

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Re: 1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2017, 02:45:31 PM »
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"Much of our work is about finding the cracks and holes"

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Re: 1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2017, 03:21:37 PM »
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Now thats what I call a hairy situation!
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Re: 1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2017, 11:50:09 PM »
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You mean cruising for anonymous sex using online aps isn't a great way to meet normal well adjusted people well color me shocked

"Cruising for anonymous sex using online apps isn't a great way to meet normal well adjusted people" already describes gays. These are just modern, high tech queers on the go.

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Re: 1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2017, 12:13:51 AM »
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You mean cruising for anonymous sex using online aps isn't a great way to meet normal well adjusted people well color me shocked
I have difficulty imagining gay guys having trouble meeting people irl. Or at least enough to use a dating app  :jesse:

It's not about having trouble meeting people irl. It's about having a specific fetish for sex with strangers. I don't even mean like you met someone at a bar, chatted over drinks and fucked. I mean, anonymous random sex with absolute strangers. This is a thing among lots of gay dudes.
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Re: 1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2017, 06:40:52 AM »
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You mean cruising for anonymous sex using online aps isn't a great way to meet normal well adjusted people well color me shocked
I have difficulty imagining gay guys having trouble meeting people irl. Or at least enough to use a dating app  :jesse:

It's not about having trouble meeting people irl. It's about having a specific fetish for sex with strangers. I don't even mean like you met someone at a bar, chatted over drinks and fucked. I mean, anonymous random sex with absolute strangers. This is a thing among lots of gay dudes.
Probably because it's so easy.
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Re: 1,100 strangers showed up at his home for sex
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2017, 11:18:48 AM »
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You mean cruising for anonymous sex using online aps isn't a great way to meet normal well adjusted people well color me shocked
I have difficulty imagining gay guys having trouble meeting people irl. Or at least enough to use a dating app  :jesse:

It's not about having trouble meeting people irl. It's about having a specific fetish for sex with strangers. I don't even mean like you met someone at a bar, chatted over drinks and fucked. I mean, anonymous random sex with absolute strangers. This is a thing among lots of gay dudes.
Probably because it's so easy.

I think it goes deeper than that. My guess is it has roots in sexual abuse, like most unhealthy and compulsive forms of sexually acting out.
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