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Re: Dynamite Entertainment goes full shitlib pozzes up Vampirella & others
« Reply #1050 on: August 17, 2018, 04:28:30 PM »
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DC really doesn't do whimsy but when it does stuff like Batman brave and the Bold it's top notch(brave and the Bold also has the only likable version of Aquaman and also contains a Space Ghost and batman Teamup).

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Re: Dynamite Entertainment goes full shitlib pozzes up Vampirella & others
« Reply #1051 on: August 17, 2018, 06:53:35 PM »
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Good news everybody!  DC Comics is relaunching its Vertigo imprint (Sandman, Preacher, et al) with several brand news comics

The optimist in me wonders if this is DC's way of quarantining the poz so that when Vertigo fails they can say "Well, we tried!" and move on.

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Re: Dynamite Entertainment goes full shitlib pozzes up Vampirella & others
« Reply #1052 on: August 19, 2018, 12:20:10 AM »
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Those are all parodies, right? I seriously can't tell anymore. :stare:

Nope, these are from the actual comics that were mentioned previously in the thread that Vertigo was putting out.

It's my understanding that Vertigo (and Batgirl) is what DC is using to contain the majority of the SJW wokeness.


Yeah DC seems to be decent at doing that in comparison to Marvel.  Wildstorm is in turn the exact opposite.  That’s where characters like Mr. Majestic, aka a Superman from a warlike species with little desire to hold back against bad guys, and The Authority, a team who cares nothing about collateral damage and tend to be pretty fascist like in punishing bad guys.

The Authority are childish authoritarians with woke worldviews.  This is most obvious in Brubaker's run, where it's apparent how much they hate the common man.  This depiction followed them fighting an evil cartoon of the establishment in Millar's run, and made obvious that despite how they might have looked good in comparison there, if given power the only way they could be viewed as an improvement would be because they have magic technology and literal magic to hand and because they'd been set up against cardboard cutouts. 

They do fight some '40s era heroes who can be viewed as right-wing, but they're absolute caricatures of the worst types of such people, which I took as being Brubaker saying 'Yeah, I had to make them like this for the Authority to be even vaguely sympathetic'.  Majestic is vaguely fascist but sympathetic, as he is more benevolently paternal and protective than controlling.  WildCATs (at least in their 3.0 incarnation) are kind of in-between, in that they maybe lean left but try to work within legitimate current power structures in a way that involves the average person.  They're the adults to the Authority's tantrum-throwing children.

I'd say 'if they were done today it'd be unreadable', but Warren Ellis' Wild Storm has been great so far and has run on more feelings of general paranoia and distrust of government power structures, despite a bunch of random sexuality/race/gender swaps which early on boded ill.  He seems to have ditched a lot of the political and satirical elements of the Authority, which I'm happy with, as I think it marries up better with the core of the Wildstorm U.  I'm fine with a comic leaning left implicitly if it doesn't catastrophically tilt left explicitly.

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Re: Dynamite Entertainment goes full shitlib pozzes up Vampirella & others
« Reply #1053 on: August 19, 2018, 01:08:38 AM »
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Those are cringe as fuck. Is the soy brigade lapping it up? Probably not because I remember reading that most comic book sales are down..

The only demographic that goes for woke garbage is "people employed in human resources".

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Re: Dynamite Entertainment goes full shitlib pozzes up Vampirella & others
« Reply #1054 on: August 19, 2018, 04:03:35 AM »
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Those are cringe as fuck. Is the soy brigade lapping it up? Probably not because I remember reading that most comic book sales are down..

The only demographic that goes for woke garbage is "people employed in human resources".

I work in government in a country where there's been a staff freeze restricting our numbers to 2006 - 2007 levels.  Government bloat is a real thing, but in some areas this is really screwing things up.  Whenever the issue comes up for discussion I say we could easily create enough new positions to attract people if the entire diversity bureaucracy was fired overnight (we have whole teams of people dedicated to 'diversity' lol).

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Re: Dynamite Entertainment goes full shitlib pozzes up Vampirella & others
« Reply #1055 on: August 24, 2018, 10:16:27 AM »
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In a hilarious turn of events, the guy who is drawing Zoe Quinn's comic book for DC tweeted pictures of his butthole to Star Wars youtuber Ethan Van Sciver.

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Re: Dynamite Entertainment goes full shitlib pozzes up Vampirella & others
« Reply #1056 on: August 24, 2018, 01:04:32 PM »
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In a hilarious turn of events, the guy who is drawing Zoe Quinn's comic book for DC tweeted pictures of his butthole to Star Wars youtuber Ethan Van Sciver.

Is this porn? I hope it's not porn.
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Re: Dynamite Entertainment goes full shitlib pozzes up Vampirella & others
« Reply #1057 on: September 02, 2018, 12:51:36 PM »
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Dave Sim has jumped aboard Comicsgate as the co-writer of Cyberfrog.




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Re: Dynamite Entertainment goes full shitlib pozzes up Vampirella & others
« Reply #1058 on: September 02, 2018, 01:54:52 PM »
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Hopefully he's bringing Mind Games rather than whatever that ending was.


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Re: Dynamite Entertainment goes full shitlib pozzes up Vampirella & others
« Reply #1060 on: September 14, 2018, 12:57:45 PM »
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Well I didn't think it was possible but DC's vertigo revival made Fatizen look like a magnum opus.

Everything in vertigo is just turning out that bad. They are the worst of the worst, after school specials are less heavy handed than these stories. Not only that they try to be edgy and rebellious while also being respectful and following the rules of political correctness. it doesn't fucking work, you can't have a character be a Societal Outsider while also being the most popular person ever who everyone likes. Everything is written with heavy doses of cognitive dissonance. Basically it's whatever the main character says at the moment and whatever they say is the right thing to do and all the supporting characters just do it.

All that the main character seems to do is dictate orders, there's absolutely zero character build up or any sort of arc. There's also no chemstry between the main character and any of the others, it's like the entire supporting cast are a bunch of drones.


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Re: Dynamite Entertainment goes full shitlib pozzes up Vampirella & others
« Reply #1061 on: September 14, 2018, 01:20:38 PM »
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Well I didn't think it was possible but DC's vertigo revival made Fatizen look like a magnum opus.

Everything in vertigo is just turning out that bad. They are the worst of the worst, after school specials are less heavy handed than these stories. Not only that they try to be edgy and rebellious while also being respectful and following the rules of political correctness. it doesn't fucking work, you can't have a character be a Societal Outsider while also being the most popular person ever who everyone likes. Everything is written with heavy doses of cognitive dissonance. Basically it's whatever the main character says at the moment and whatever they say is the right thing to do and all the supporting characters just do it.

All that the main character seems to do is dictate orders, there's absolutely zero character build up or any sort of arc. There's also no chemstry between the main character and any of the others, it's like the entire supporting cast are a bunch of drones.
Sounds like they were written by children.
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Re: Dynamite Entertainment goes full shitlib pozzes up Vampirella & others
« Reply #1062 on: September 15, 2018, 11:43:10 AM »
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Well I didn't think it was possible but DC's vertigo revival made Fatizen look like a magnum opus.

Everything in vertigo is just turning out that bad. They are the worst of the worst, after school specials are less heavy handed than these stories. Not only that they try to be edgy and rebellious while also being respectful and following the rules of political correctness. it doesn't fucking work, you can't have a character be a Societal Outsider while also being the most popular person ever who everyone likes. Everything is written with heavy doses of cognitive dissonance. Basically it's whatever the main character says at the moment and whatever they say is the right thing to do and all the supporting characters just do it.

All that the main character seems to do is dictate orders, there's absolutely zero character build up or any sort of arc. There's also no chemstry between the main character and any of the others, it's like the entire supporting cast are a bunch of drones.
Sounds like they were written by children.
And the real kicker is that kids wouldn't even want to read these.


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« Reply #1063 on: September 16, 2018, 12:43:07 PM »
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Chelsea Cain is a stupid, retarded bitch.  Check this shit out:

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This week ended on a bad note for fans of Chelsea Cain’s writing. Two years after the novelist’s first Marvel superhero comic, Mockingbird, was canceled after just eight issues, Cain was all set to finally publish her second Marvel comic, The Vision, later this year. First announced in July at San Diego Comic-Con, The Vision was set to be a six-issue miniseries focusing on the titular synthetic superhero and his relationship with his young robot daughter Viv. But on Thursday morning, Marvel’s weekly mailer to Diamond Comics Distributors announced that the series had been canceled and would not be re-solicited.

“I was offered the gig in July of 2016,” Cain says. “At that point, Mockingbird had been (stealth) canceled after issue #3, but I had been asked not to make that public until the eighth issue had been published. They were allowing us to finish out the arc.  I was asked to tell a Vision story that focused on Vision and his teenage daughter, Viv, who, at the time, had just been introduced into the Marvel Universe. I pitched the idea of my husband co-writing it with me. Marc is a writer, and we once co-wrote an illustrated book called Does This Cape Make Me Look Fat? Pop Psychology for Superheroes. Also, we have a teenage daughter. So Marc brings a unique authority to the subject matter.” 

Cain continues, “So by the time Mockingbird ended publicly and Twitter exploded, Marc and I were already working on The Vision. We spent months outlining and negotiating contracts and researching. We submitted an outline for the whole first arc. By September of 2017 — one year ago — we submitted the script for #1. By December we had an artist attached, the amazing Aud Koch, and editorial feedback, and we were off to the races. We’ve been working solidly for the last six months. The first three issues are inked. The first issue is colored. They all have amazing cover art. The series was announced in July. And officially solicited about a month ago. They put it in Previews. They advertised it. Why go through all of that, just to pull the plug?”

A little context: Viv first appeared in the Vision mini-series that came out in 2015-16.  The last issue came out in October 2016.  Chelsea was asked to write a follow-up in July of 2016.  In other words, Viv appeared in exactly 8 comic books between her first appearance and the time Chelsea was asked to write about Viv and the Vision's relationship.  Chelsea then spent over a year "researching" before delivering the script for the first issue.  To repeat: CHELSEA SPENT OVER A YEAR RESEARCHING A CHARACTER WHO APPEARED IN EIGHT FUCKING ISSUES OF A SINGLE BOOK, TOTAL.

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Cain says she and Mohan were drawing inspiration from their own relationships with their daughter for The Vision, describing the series as “a father-daughter story” about “the efforts of an emotionally-stunted man to reach out and connect with his ‘woke’ teenage daughter.”

“If that isn’t a metaphor for the comic book business,” she says, “I don’t know what is.”

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Chelsea then proceeds to burn all her bridges by trashing Marvel.


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“The comic book industry is made up of freelancers. I think a lot of readers don’t understand the extent of that reality,” Cain says. “Certainly any comic book by Marvel or DC, those are the work of freelancers: Colorists, inkers, pencilers, letterers, cover artists, and writers. The editors work for the company. The freelancers don’t. Maybe some of them have exclusive contracts, which means that they get a little bit more money per page, and absolutely no benefits or protections, plus they don’t get to work for anyone else — but basically, every comic you pick up has been made by someone without health insurance. But these freelancers are still expected to behave like employees. They are told what to say and when to say it… I’ve said it before, but this whole industry is a class-action lawsuit waiting to happen. It’s astonishing.”

This left Cain with few institutional protections when she was targeted by the anti-Mockingbird harassment campaign. She says, “Marvel put me through a lot with Mockingbird. I faced that with zero institutional protections. All along, I tried to be a part of positive change from the inside — silent change, because I literally was told I couldn’t breathe a word of the project. ‘Hold tight,’ they kept saying. ‘Hold tight. It breaks my heart. Because I think it sends a terrible message. And I love this brand. And I love these guys. And I love comics.”

“The most shocking part of it is that the people who work in it, who support these institutional norms, they’re the best people you’d ever want to meet. They love comics,” Cain says. “And the freelancers? They’re held hostage by the work. When Marvel asks you to let something go, to toe the line, the implication is clear. DC and Marvel dominate this industry. Freelancers don’t want to make enemies of institutions, because freelancers depend on the next job that comes along.”

The limitations of freelance labor aren’t the only obstacle for a comic like The Vision. Female creators are still in short supply at Marvel and DC, where superhero comics are still dominated by men and few stories are told from a female perspective. Cain actually has another comic coming out later this month, Man-Eaters, that tackles this issue head-on (it is also published by Image Comics, and is thus owned by its creators). Illustrated by Cain’s old Mockingbird collaborator Kate Niemczyk, Man-Eaters doesn’t deal with superheroes at all, but rather a world where teenage girls’ menstruation starts turning them into murderous monsters. As Cain told EW back in July, it was partially born out of Cain’s frustration at the lack of comics that could appeal to female fans like her daughter.

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Re: Dynamite Entertainment goes full shitlib pozzes up Vampirella & others
« Reply #1064 on: September 16, 2018, 02:33:38 PM »
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She hates everything about comics and what they represent, but she's a "comic fan." Right.
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« Reply #1065 on: September 16, 2018, 03:35:47 PM »
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She hates everything about comics and what they represent, but she's a "comic fan." Right.

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It's because they don't love comics.

Not the medium, not the art, not the characters, not the history, not the fans, nothing about it makes them happy.

They only like the idea of being comic gatekeepers and excluding those from the fandom/industry that don't pass their personal moral purity checks and punishing the wrong-thinkers.

They didn't get into the industry to produce anything and attract fans, they joined up to specifically exclude and chastise those who don't deserve to have any hobby to call their own because they're on the wrong side of history and must suffer for it. They don't like cake, but they love holding a slice of cake in front of a person they dislike while saying "See this? Well, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT!" and tossing it on the ground to spite the "Nazi".

It's why titles that sell like shit are seen as such a positive thing, it means the comics fans are getting exactly what they deserve for being immoral..... strife and misery! That is their goal, not happy fans, unhappy fans.

If they woke up one morning and they were the only comic fan left, they'd orgasm as to them it'd mean they were the only one worthy of the honor, and that the title "fan" had finally been cleansed of all it's shame, not stand in mute shock that they'd destroyed the whole institution.

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« Reply #1066 on: September 16, 2018, 05:55:01 PM »
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Not the medium, not the art, not the characters, not the history, not the fans, nothing about it makes them happy.

They only like the idea of being gatekeepers and excluding those from the fandom/industry that don't pass their personal moral purity checks and punishing the wrong-thinkers.

They didn't get into the industry to produce anything and attract fans, they joined up to specifically exclude and chastise those who don't deserve to have any hobby to call their own because they're on the wrong side of history and must suffer for it. They don't like cake, but they love holding a slice of cake in front of a person they dislike while saying "See this? Well, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT!" and tossing it on the ground to spite the "Nazi".

It's why titles that sell like shit are seen as such a positive thing, it means the comics fans are getting exactly what they deserve for being immoral..... strife and misery! That is their goal, not happy fans, unhappy fans.

If they woke up one morning and they were the only comic fan left, they'd orgasm as to them it'd mean they were the only one worthy of the honor, and that the title "fan" had finally been cleansed of all it's shame, not stand in mute shock that they'd destroyed the whole institution.
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Re: Dynamite Entertainment goes full shitlib pozzes up Vampirella & others
« Reply #1067 on: September 16, 2018, 09:23:26 PM »
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I really truly hate Mayonnaise. I always order sandwiches without it, and there have only been a couple times in my life where I took a bite out of a sandwich with mayo in it on accident. And in those instances I felt physically ill for hours afterwards. I know I'm not allergic to it and have eaten its constituent ingredients throughout my life, it's just some weird psychosomatic response.

Basically what I'm saying is that I'm a huge fan of Mayonnaise and I love it so much that I need to get into the Mayonnaise industry so that I can change mayo into something that people like me can relate to. If you have a problem with that, you're just a piece of shit bigot that needs to get educated.

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« Reply #1068 on: September 17, 2018, 09:02:58 AM »
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She hates everything about comics and what they represent, but she's a "comic fan." Right.

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It's because they don't love comics.

Not the medium, not the art, not the characters, not the history, not the fans, nothing about it makes them happy.

They only like the idea of being comic gatekeepers and excluding those from the fandom/industry that don't pass their personal moral purity checks and punishing the wrong-thinkers.

They didn't get into the industry to produce anything and attract fans, they joined up to specifically exclude and chastise those who don't deserve to have any hobby to call their own because they're on the wrong side of history and must suffer for it. They don't like cake, but they love holding a slice of cake in front of a person they dislike while saying "See this? Well, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT!" and tossing it on the ground to spite the "Nazi".

It's why titles that sell like shit are seen as such a positive thing, it means the comics fans are getting exactly what they deserve for being immoral..... strife and misery! That is their goal, not happy fans, unhappy fans.

If they woke up one morning and they were the only comic fan left, they'd orgasm as to them it'd mean they were the only one worthy of the honor, and that the title "fan" had finally been cleansed of all it's shame, not stand in mute shock that they'd destroyed the whole institution.

That quote explains almost every single liberal action since the 1920s.  They don't actually care about anything they take over and don't actually care about improving it or making it better, it is and always will be about lording it over those on the wrong side of history as something that they cannot have and will never have.  CS Lewis absolutely nailed what living under liberal tyranny would be like and given the above, it's going to be flatly horrifying in a way that will make every other tyrannical government seem sane.  Moral busy bodies doing things for our own good will, if left unchecked, cause a genocide the likes of which have never been seen because their ideological justifications will convince them of their absolute moral superiority.  If we lose, they will extinguish our entire bloodline, I am absolutely 100% convinced of this now.

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Re: Dynamite Entertainment goes full shitlib pozzes up Vampirella & others
« Reply #1069 on: September 17, 2018, 10:19:19 AM »
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I really truly hate Mayonnaise. I always order sandwiches without it, and there have only been a couple times in my life where I took a bite out of a sandwich with mayo in it on accident. And in those instances I felt physically ill for hours afterwards. I know I'm not allergic to it and have eaten its constituent ingredients throughout my life, it's just some weird psychosomatic response.

Basically what I'm saying is that I'm a huge fan of Mayonnaise and I love it so much that I need to get into the Mayonnaise industry so that I can change mayo into something that people like me can relate to. If you have a problem with that, you're just a piece of shit bigot that needs to get educated.

Agreed. Also the kind of people who like mayo disgust me, which is why more people like me are needed in the Mayonnaise industry. I think we have a lot to learn from condiments of color.
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