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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #375 on: June 19, 2018, 10:19:49 PM »
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As noted in this thread over the past month, the tyrannical Euroweenies running the European Union may soon use copyright (which in itself is basically a skeleton that is very rarely if ever put to use) as a pretext to strangle free speech on the Internet and ban memes. PJW has more.

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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #376 on: June 21, 2018, 03:50:37 PM »
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About a week after saying he would not let Aquarius dock, Matteo Salvin, Italy's new interior minister and head of the far-right League party, barred two more ships - the Lifeline and the Seefuch - from entering the country's ports.

Salvini accused the two rescue missions, both of which are run by German organisations, of "being complicit in the illegal immigration business".
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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #377 on: June 21, 2018, 06:03:17 PM »
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And those migrants that just got rejected by Italy are going to Spain instead just in time after a so convenient no-confidence vote that put some scumbag banker socialist in power, these fucks don't waste their time, also an FU to the EU, good luck trying to ban the internet for your corporate butt buddies.

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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #378 on: June 21, 2018, 09:46:31 PM »
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When I traveled to Madrid, there was a giant "REFUGEES WELCOME" banner in front of the government office there.  They're pozzed as fuck but ultimately the migrants don't stick around because Spain is practically a third world country and thus offers third world level of gibs.  They're going to be percolating into Britain or Germany as soon as they can.

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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #379 on: June 22, 2018, 09:12:57 AM »
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Since the early 70's, the western Europe economy has nearly tripled but the average income, purchasing power as well as real disposable income has not only stagnated but has in many cases decreased.

The New Population hardly ever strikes anymore despite seeing nothing of the benefits of , again, an almost tripling economy since '77.

When we follow the money we see that the money has flowed to corporations and bloated  governments.

The willingness to strike withing the western workforce is decreasing substantially each year while economies, governments and corporations grow, and we systematically fail to benefit a single penny.

We are at the dawn of a brand new man who is apparently fine with a salary that has stagnated because in a modern western ethnically diverse professional culture there is no united solidarity support for standing up for employees interests, a new hivemind is whispering different things in our ear.


Kalergi wrote the plan to mix the races so that the European identity would go extinct.

The Rothschild banker family adopted and funded the plan the plan, George Soros plays a part here as well.

The UN is executing the plan, they cal lit replacement immigration.

Victor Orban of Hungary is one of the few leaders to address this huge deceit by the elite and together with Iceland were the first to drive the Rothschild bankers out of their countries.

It is imperative that we do the same, or we will continue to go down a path where all future wars, like past wars, will be banker-wars.

Jews never forget a perceived sleight and I can only wonder what they have in store for us.

The trend that is clearly visible in western Europe is that a more ethnic diverse workforce is far less likely to strike, tipping the power balance far in the favor of the very employees lobbying for more political policy influence in the Eu.

EU sees loyalty to a nation state as a tremendous problem in desperate need of fixing and these new people have 0 loyalty to their new EU countries, they even get to keep their original nations passport, and identity, so they are here for the money exclusively.

The very people monetizing on the consequences of an ethnically diverse workforce are the ones lobbying the EU for mass immigration, which in turn is forbidding us to notice the consequences of this ethnic diversity.

We are all the same but there is more profit to make when we become less the same.

Large numbers of foreign workers foster a new culture on the work-floor where striking is impossible, the inability to unite with these people  and to rise to a certain cause is manifest when considering the fact where these people come from, under what conditions they worked, they will look at you like you are mad because they are in a new context and do not understand your history: for them its all better then it was, that good enough, no need to make wrinkles in the water.

Politicians here play the trick all the time when confronting the indigenous people with more cutbacks on government services while raising taxes and increasing debt: they point to countries where it is worse, neglecting that people don't pay back breaking sums of tax to their governments there.

Race to the bottom where the lowest common denominator among the diverse masses becomes the latest sub par new standard.

Automatizing and Internationalization under the EU have given the elites a better way of milking their cattle dry.

In China industrial cities of millions of people are kept running, all shift continue, not because of supply and demand, but to stave off a revolution, a practical plan based on the saying "Idle hands are the devils playground".

People being put to fake work for a basic income seems preferable to me over basic income.

Money is essentially a materialization of time and energy (I get 10 euros per hour, not to eat out of my nose, but to exert a certain amount of energy / labor), by decoupling these things you essentially make money as worthless as overprinting.

People need to work for it otherwise you can not do anything with it, based on our collective trust in worth of currency.

The belief in the basic income does not seem economic, but sees it as a kind of idealistic post-religious redemption, the latter is subjective to me :)

We run the increasing risk of turning most of humanity obsolete because of automation.

People without purpose or goals have no meaning in their lives, it is hard to overstate how unhealthy that is, but like robots will be implemented to do whatever they can do, only because they can, never thinking whether we should, or regarding long term consequences.

It is certain that people will keep finding new ways to give their lives meaning, even, or especially when that starts meaning smashing robots.



Dark forces lurk behind the scenes pulling the strings for profit maximization at the expense of social cohesion and disposable income that goes up with a rising economy.

This is essentially what the EU was created for and is the reason employers with enough capital have full access to influence while the employees and voters have none, pay to play, the buying of influence leads to a policy creation that is favorable of mass immigration because they know it will lead to the lowering of the biggest hurdles for these companies: Salary.

Achmed might never work but he is good for credit creation for banks, the unemployed masses can be controlled through welfare and re-distributing wealth, the capitalist thirst for more consumers is replenished, a crisis delayed because all our pensions and hedge-funds are tied into consumer-spending and we are not having kids and are getting older.

I believe in the necessity of a balance of power between employees and employers, when only profit counts, and the worker has no power or protection many of us are going back to the Europe in the olden days of peasants and aristocrats.

What we are left with is a moldable, flexible compliant worker unable to form a collective fist because of different backgrounds, destroying the concept of the western blue collar worker is crucial, too expensive.

People are easily manipulated through emotion, not fact, 1 crying baby and all the carefullest formulated coherent well reasoned arguments go out the window.

The push for mass immigration is so cynical.

We already know what Mexicans do to a country: Mexico.

We already know what Moroccans do to a country: Morocco.

Taxpayers pay their government to protect their people, not turn their people into all people.

The western taxpayer is in no way responsible for the citizens of non western countries.

So why invite them over, the enthusiasm with which politicians greet these people is the same enthusiasm with which they loathe the western traditions.

The real problem is that white people hate white people.

The migrants are  wielded as an instrumnet by subversive organizations, a deliberate use of enforced and disproportionate mass immigration, especially from non-European countries, in order to bring in a Pan European single state dictatorship and destroy the indigenous pink/white nationalities, and therefore resistance, of Europe.

It is our civilization that will facilitate the end our civilization.

They talk a mean game about nuance, but don't nuance nuance itself.

It is important to notice that generalization is not necessarily worse than nuance.

A mayor of a town that is being vandalized by 800 soccer-fans has a decision to make, sent in the cops to bust the hooligans, or lose his town to destruction, he has to risk generalizing because among the  soccer-fans are bound to be innocents who will get hurt.

The Dynamo Open Air Festival here made a similar generalizing call in the 90's.

Hardcore was banned because it attracted too many troublemakers that spoiled the entire party.

If only we could apply similar logic to Islam.

Again, the brilliance is two-fold: The very racial differences and their consequences on a western society are punishable by personal/career destruction when dared to notice/reported publicly or in a semi-organized fashion, but these very differences and their consequences are exploited by the same people who will call you an inhumane racist monsters for noticing them.

In other words, the machinations wielded to create the economic consequences and corporate benefits of introducing ethnic diversity and other racial differences wielded by a cynical un-elected elite to divide and exploit and efficiently drain the new western workforce, is the same racial consequence you and I are forbidden to even notice.

Effectively shutting down dissent of the net payers while securing the positions of the beneficiaries, all while securing the longevity of the system.

Monetizing on the differences while telling us we are the same.

Lessons are learned more intrinsically when accomanied with some real physical pain.

Before Hitler, Germany had 32 political parties, the political cultural climate around Berlin 1932 was considered a grotesque comedy, Hitler merely needed to articulate what was happening in the minds of the German people and put a stop to selfish individualism.

It is important to notice that not only was Hitler democratically chosen by the people, the Eu's elemental structure was to remove democracy from Europe by implementing itself.

On the latest ballots in Holland we had 28 political parties.

Aspiring politicians get elected by running focus group testing on what the swing voters want, and then basing their campaign on that, the problem is that this works, it will get you elected, but you are not you anymore, you're a sham by then, a reflection of endless inconsistent unresponsive needs.

People benefit from vision but  wind up with the accumulation of their own nonsense.

Never give people what they want, it is not good for them, give them what they need.

Consumerism gives one a temporary notion of purpose and meaning, it quickly strokes the Ego longing for more while delaying the existential crisis of building an identity based on stuff.

The effects of exogenic influx are increasingly paternalistic governments dealing with the increasing infantilization of the diminishing western population.

Millennials brand themselves to find identity in products in an exchanging dynamic pace so rapidly that it is turning them into such ultimate marketing puppets that even the madmen in the 60's hovering over their cooling gin-vomit were never delirious enough to come up with this.

Freud's marketing cousin invented happiness as a social construct much like Trotski invented racism, both don't exist, but when people start believing that they do, they can be wielded to control people, and naturally a road to power for the ones who controls them.

Suffering is not something to be avoided, happiness is sold to you much  like the product that promises you to absolve you from it.

Both don't work and both are deeply rooted in lies.

One hundred and Twenty-Three billion dollars have disappeared from the EU in 2011 and, although clearly published, no one in Brussels knows in what darkness these taxpayers of the European taxpayer have fled.

Eurostat, the statistical office of the 27 EU countries, has measured the feeling that citizens have for the European institutions has reported a further € 285 billion of our money is going into unfeasible projects: wasted money.

The EU and other globalists like women in positions of "power", these women wield no actual power, they are puppets, stringed along in part by their own desires to matter, they have no leadership abilities nor do they have to, they are instead selected for being compliant.

Possibly because they lack independant thought they are sycophants with a thirst for prestige.

This is what Orwell meant when he said women were the worst Nazi's.

Most Nazi's were not true believers at all, but the system benefited them more then not.

Intolerance is to act, to resist, which is power.

tolerance means to do nothing, which is weakness.

This is why historically intolerance beats tolerance, because tolerance is not a deed, it a the endless allowance of deeds being done to you.

And to make matters worse, the EU Commissioner for internal affairs Cecilia Malmström who promised to publish a report on this in early 2013 said that this would not happen, because the disappearance of the money is not transparent enough, in other words that ultimately nobody in Brussels knows exactly what happened to the 120 billion or where this money that went to the 28 EU countries, among other things, and where it was spent.

€ 120 billion that means about 25% of the total budget that the EU spends on 'support'

Mother nature is not a communist.

These reports have seized to come out of the EU since, not because the fraude has stpped.


Now in Brussels the P.R. machine has shifted into fifth gear.

PR, Hapines and psychonaalyseis are constraints in the interset of social order.

Putting the cult in culture, the tendency to control man and his desires in lying the emphasis in mans internal conflict is a trick: mans internal conflict is critical, the sickness is the hive-mind in the system, the ghost in the machine steering us, telling the non conforming individual of his new ails, it is no testament of health to be adapted to a thoroughly diseased culture.

The empahsis is on controlling man more then freeing him.

Creating new sicknesses and therapies while "Curing" him from his suffering instead of listening to the truths in that suffering, "happiness" is the lie of a power-mad analytic psycho jew who will dangle it in front of you like an elusive carrot, racing with you in front of you, disappearing the moment you go do something else.

The irony is that you will feel a lot better the moment you stop chasing happiness.

Togetherness, connecting ability to cite only a few words that pushed down your throat by the EU, algorithms giving them the words we long to hear, creating false leadership, mirroring ourselves.

The word solidarity, with which Brussels tries to explain these most new costly measures, has been completely devalued as every EU citizen begins to feel the consequences of this disastrous megalomaniac project in his own way.

People are starting to notice that the fear spread by the EU over "hate groups" is a mere tool that projects and camouflages its own tyrannical ambitions.

The lobby circuit that focuses on the European Union (Commission and Parliament) is particularly extensive.

In Brussels, it is estimated that more than two thousand trade associations, 1850 non-governmental organizations, 850 commercial companies, 350 regional governments and 430 specialized (most British / American) law firms are active.

In addition, a large number of consultancy firms is active in Brussels. Many hundreds of organizations also advocate their case in the lobby circuit.

Investigations underway. Except "investigate these days means "buy time", sabotage, undermine, white wash"

Engineering consent among the populace in an empty husk of a sham of a democracy construed by tyrants gets harder to do when identity politics starts creating near insulated data and contained  information bubbles, if everyone is dialing in their own channels, a unifying message that gets broadcast will remain unwatched.

The brutal trick played with well-meaning people in the West who support unlimited mass immigration and open borders is that they themselves are the unconscious victims of the worst kind of terrible and undesirable racist doctrine against them.

In a glorious mess of ignorance and zombie-like virtue signalling, they will gladly help and protest on behalf of these elements that want to see them destroyed.

That is how effective cognitive dissonance and propaganda has become and it is an example of how ultra progressiveness has degenerated into ultra-regressive.

Whoever wins is right and the Nazi's lost so they are wrong, but being underdogs in the west for 70+ years has forced us into the role of initiative, consequently putting the jew in a responsive position.

A lazy goy makes a lazy jew, like a lazy criminal makes for lazy cops.

Being in power long makes a collective dull, lazy, fat, sloppy, complacent, it's situational awareness drops and less likely to see new creative threats appear or how they operate.

Then the mouse outgrows the cat and the last shall be the first once more around the circle.

Globalist Elitists do everything for money but have no loyalty, they are unexposed and therefore all the more vulnerable to the dirt that they create, weakening them and killing their underdeveloped immune systems when they run out of our money to throw at us.

But perhaps this is wishful thinking at it's best.

Thank you for reading.

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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #380 on: June 22, 2018, 09:17:34 AM »
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5/10, you forgot to work in SCALE

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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #381 on: June 22, 2018, 09:46:02 AM »
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When I get home I’ll have my text to speech writer read that novel to me.
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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #382 on: June 22, 2018, 09:01:51 PM »
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i scanned it and all i got was he wants a return to the good old days of the '70s in the uk where strikes used to cause blackouts all the time and millions of man hours were lost

in australia there was something sillier a couple of decades back where miners at a remote worksite struck because they only had three flavours of ice cream in the mess

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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #383 on: June 23, 2018, 06:06:58 AM »
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"i scanned it and all i got was he wants a return to the good old days of the '70s in the uk where strikes used to cause blackouts all the time and millions of man hours were lost

in australia there was something sillier a couple of decades back where miners at a remote worksite struck because they only had three flavours of ice cream in the mess"

Sure, but what if at a later time they would only have two flavors ?

That's what I thought.

In all seriousness, you didn't read the manual for this post because this is exactly the conclusion you'd end up with if you didn't read the whole thing out loud to yourself in a badly mimicked voice of Kathleen Turner.

Try again.

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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #384 on: June 23, 2018, 07:31:11 AM »
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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #385 on: June 24, 2018, 10:57:36 PM »
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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #386 on: June 25, 2018, 12:23:21 AM »
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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #387 on: June 25, 2018, 12:49:00 AM »
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https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/06/body-of-raped-dog-found-inside-greek-refugee-camp/

Don’t even click on the link, the URL sums it up

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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #388 on: June 25, 2018, 03:27:50 AM »
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Wonderful addition to the European continent, can't wait to share my tax roubles with them

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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #389 on: June 25, 2018, 07:33:54 AM »
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"And why do you think you deserve refugee status?"

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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #390 on: June 26, 2018, 09:53:02 AM »
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The New Population hardly ever strikes anymore despite seeing nothing of the benefits of , again, an almost tripling economy since '77.



Most of your shit is retarded, but I'd like to comment on this.

My grandfather lived out in a tiny village on the coast, had his fishing boat and rifle and vegetable garden and woodstove and had no mortgage because he built his house himself on a piece of land his father owned. He had no electricity until the late 1960s and relied on a battery operated radio in the living room to get his information. If someone wanted him to work under unreasonable terms he could tell them to go fly the fuck and get by until something more reasonable came by.

Most people today have a mortgage or rent. All their food comes from a grocery store. They are connected to a centralized gird for power, information and home heating. If someone wants them to work under unreasonable conditions they can maybe hold out a month, two tops before their life is totally fucked.

You want to go live in a small house on land you own today with no mortgage and a woodstove and a big vegetable garden you're a weirdo and get turned into a social pariah, and no one wants to date you or hang out with you.

Corporate and government entities have successfully convinced us that there is no alternative to our current way of life and anyone who tries anything different is mentally ill. Advertising specifically tells you that you are weak and stupid and doing things yourself is too much hassle. They tell you need to go in debt to the phone company to get a new phone with new doodad every year and people do it. They've successfully snuffed out the flame of individualism with the ability to binge watch TV shows and get Afgan food at three in the morning. We are the ones driving the power imbalance and wealth inequity by behaving like by passive beasts of the pasture and allowing them to farm us for wealth and power. Then we look to the very ones we are giving power to fix it. What possible motivation do the people who have benefited most from the current system have to fix it? All you have to do is walk away and go live in a rural community, but we're so deluded into thinking the cosmopolitan western lifestyle of 2018 is the only option that no one walks away from it, they look down on anyone who does as a retard, and as a result the more independent rural lifestyle is dying. Even in rural areas, people have become opiate addled wards of the state and corporate entities.

I'm not saying you know, we need to give up all modern conveniences and live and die by the laws of nature, but there has to be a happy medium somewhere. It's at the point were people are willingly becoming debt slaves for iPhones and then asking the government to fix it because you need your iPhone to live.

So you say people today don't strike, well of course they don't. They're too afraid to give up their iPhones and nights out. Most people today think it's unfathomable to live without the internet. How fucked up is that? Just 30 years ago society functioned just fine without it, but now it's so indispensable that people actually argue that internet access should be a basic human right? I'm saying that as someone who uses the internet quite a lot. We've become way too reliant on the corporate and government tits and it's turned us all into fat lazy babies.
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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #391 on: June 26, 2018, 10:55:44 AM »
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The New Population hardly ever strikes anymore despite seeing nothing of the benefits of , again, an almost tripling economy since '77.



Most of your shit is retarded, but I'd like to comment on this.

My grandfather lived out in a tiny village on the coast, had his fishing boat and rifle and vegetable garden and woodstove and had no mortgage because he built his house himself on a piece of land his father owned. He had no electricity until the late 1960s and relied on a battery operated radio in the living room to get his information. If someone wanted him to work under unreasonable terms he could tell them to go fly the fuck and get by until something more reasonable came by.

Most people today have a mortgage or rent. All their food comes from a grocery store. They are connected to a centralized gird for power, information and home heating. If someone wants them to work under unreasonable conditions they can maybe hold out a month, two tops before their life is totally fucked.

You want to go live in a small house on land you own today with no mortgage and a woodstove and a big vegetable garden you're a weirdo and get turned into a social pariah, and no one wants to date you or hang out with you.

Corporate and government entities have successfully convinced us that there is no alternative to our current way of life and anyone who tries anything different is mentally ill. Advertising specifically tells you that you are weak and stupid and doing things yourself is too much hassle. They tell you need to go in debt to the phone company to get a new phone with new doodad every year and people do it. They've successfully snuffed out the flame of individualism with the ability to binge watch TV shows and get Afgan food at three in the morning. We are the ones driving the power imbalance and wealth inequity by behaving like by passive beasts of the pasture and allowing them to farm us for wealth and power. Then we look to the very ones we are giving power to fix it. What possible motivation do the people who have benefited most from the current system have to fix it? All you have to do is walk away and go live in a rural community, but we're so deluded into thinking we the cosmopolitan western lifestyle of 2018 that no one walks away from it, they look down on anyone who does as a retard, and as a result the more independent rural lifestyle is dying. Even in rural areas, people have become opiate addled wards of the state and corporate entities.

I'm not saying you know, we need to give up all modern conveniences and live and die by the laws of nature, but there has to be a happy medium somewhere. It's at the point were people are willingly becoming debt slaves for iPhones and then asking the government to fix it because you need your iPhone to live.

So you say people today don't strike, well of course they don't. They're too afraid to give up their iPhones and nights out. Most people today think it's unfathomable to live without the internet. How fucked up is that? Just 30 years ago society functioned just fine without it, but now it's so indispensable that people actually argue that internet access should be a basic human right? I'm saying that as someone who uses the internet quite a lot. We've become way too reliant on the corporate and government tits and it's turned us all into fat lazy babies.

My modern day version of this is paying $40 a month for internet and using a decommissioned smartphone to mooch off WiFi in order to communicate on the go. "Lemme find a place with free WiFi" could have easily been the modern equivalent of "Lemme find a payphone." Sometimes I almost wish cell phone service costed several thousand dollars a month or you had to be disabled to have it, just so it would be taboo to actually pay for something so unnecessary yet so enforced by mainstream norms.

The food version of this is not putting anything in your mouth that (generally speaking) came in a package or has a logo.

When you factor in free media from BitTorrent and roms/emulators for gaming, this is an unfathomably luxurious/frivolous lifestyle, for even a billionare by our grandfather's standards, yet in the year of the ingrate, 2018, this is a life of poverty and suffering, because "UGHHHHH, I have to download it?!"
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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #392 on: June 26, 2018, 11:03:24 AM »
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not to mention all of the studies that show virtually everyone carries five digits of credit card debt and that most households couldn't come up with a spare $1000 in a month to cover something unexpected

too many people live hand-to-mouth, go into debt to pay for shit they don't need and can't afford, and end up so deep underwater that everything costs them 20% more than it should once you factor in the interest they're paying

of course, making sacrifices/roughing it/being self-reliant is hard, and how can the delicate flowers of america possibly be expected to do something uncomfortable?
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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #393 on: June 26, 2018, 11:15:50 AM »
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The New Population hardly ever strikes anymore despite seeing nothing of the benefits of , again, an almost tripling economy since '77.



Most of your shit is retarded, but I'd like to comment on this.

My grandfather lived out in a tiny village on the coast, had his fishing boat and rifle and vegetable garden and woodstove and had no mortgage because he built his house himself on a piece of land his father owned. He had no electricity until the late 1960s and relied on a battery operated radio in the living room to get his information. If someone wanted him to work under unreasonable terms he could tell them to go fly the fuck and get by until something more reasonable came by.

Most people today have a mortgage or rent. All their food comes from a grocery store. They are connected to a centralized gird for power, information and home heating. If someone wants them to work under unreasonable conditions they can maybe hold out a month, two tops before their life is totally fucked.

You want to go live in a small house on land you own today with no mortgage and a woodstove and a big vegetable garden you're a weirdo and get turned into a social pariah, and no one wants to date you or hang out with you.

Corporate and government entities have successfully convinced us that there is no alternative to our current way of life and anyone who tries anything different is mentally ill. Advertising specifically tells you that you are weak and stupid and doing things yourself is too much hassle. They tell you need to go in debt to the phone company to get a new phone with new doodad every year and people do it. They've successfully snuffed out the flame of individualism with the ability to binge watch TV shows and get Afgan food at three in the morning. We are the ones driving the power imbalance and wealth inequity by behaving like by passive beasts of the pasture and allowing them to farm us for wealth and power. Then we look to the very ones we are giving power to fix it. What possible motivation do the people who have benefited most from the current system have to fix it? All you have to do is walk away and go live in a rural community, but we're so deluded into thinking we the cosmopolitan western lifestyle of 2018 that no one walks away from it, they look down on anyone who does as a retard, and as a result the more independent rural lifestyle is dying. Even in rural areas, people have become opiate addled wards of the state and corporate entities.

I'm not saying you know, we need to give up all modern conveniences and live and die by the laws of nature, but there has to be a happy medium somewhere. It's at the point were people are willingly becoming debt slaves for iPhones and then asking the government to fix it because you need your iPhone to live.

So you say people today don't strike, well of course they don't. They're too afraid to give up their iPhones and nights out. Most people today think it's unfathomable to live without the internet. How fucked up is that? Just 30 years ago society functioned just fine without it, but now it's so indispensable that people actually argue that internet access should be a basic human right? I'm saying that as someone who uses the internet quite a lot. We've become way too reliant on the corporate and government tits and it's turned us all into fat lazy babies.

My modern day version of this is paying $40 a month for internet and using a decommissioned smartphone to mooch off WiFi in order to communicate on the go. "Lemme find a place with free WiFi" could have easily been the modern equivalent of "Lemme find a payphone." Sometimes I almost wish cell phone service costed several thousand dollars a month or you had to be disabled to have it, just so it would be taboo to actually pay for something so unnecessary yet so enforced by mainstream norms.

When you factor in free media from BitTorrent and roms/emulators for gaming, this is an unfathomably luxurious/frivolous lifestyle, for even a billionare by our grandfather's standards, yet in the year of the ingrate, 2018, this is a life of poverty and suffering, because "UGHHHHH, I have to download it?!"

I buy virtually everything I can used. Society creates such excess wealth that there's generally always a glut of used stuff in perfectly fine condition for a fraction of the cost of buying it new, and it allows me to live pretty high on the hog without any debt besides my mortgage and I have a decent nest egg. But like most things that are perfectly reasonable and save you money in the long run, it's looked down upon almost as if some mysterious force is compelling people to buy everything new. I've been using "last year's phone" and off-lease refurbished computers for a decade.

We bought a stove on Kijiji last year for $200. It works perfectly fine. They baby boomer guy who sold it told me they got a new stainless steel fridge so now they had to upgrade all their kitchen appliances to stainless steel. People like that are totally mental.
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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #394 on: June 26, 2018, 11:31:33 AM »
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I buy virtually everything I can used. Society creates such excess wealth that there's generally always a glut of used stuff in perfectly fine condition for a fraction of the cost of buying it new, and it allows me to live pretty high on the hog without any debt besides my mortgage and I have a decent nest egg. But like most things that are perfectly reasonable and save you money in the long run, it's looked down upon almost as if some mysterious force is compelling people to buy everything new. I've been using "last year's phone" and off-lease refurbished computers for a decade.

We bought a stove on Kijiji last year for $200. It works perfectly fine. They baby boomer guy who sold it told me they got a new stainless steel fridge so now they had to upgrade all their kitchen appliances to stainless steel. People like that are totally mental.

Yep, this is how I get by with a family. I'd be fucked if it weren't for bubble wrap kids and their 21 gallon drum of hand sanitizer parents who are convinced their babies will literally get cancer and die if they come in contact with a 2nd hand car seat or stroller. So there I am to buy it for pennies on the dollar, take it home, rip off the disgusting/vomit covered fabric that devalued it by another $80 and replace it with a $45 replacement fabric package I bought online.

And thank god for the rising cost of summer camp! Fuck knows, if summer camp was even remotely affordable, I'd have to pony up the money for that instead of coordinating communal summer activities with other parents via Facebook, for free.

Here's to higher education taking the same route and eventually devaluing itself down to nothing so I can let the kids spend their college funds on shit that's actually worthwhile.
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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #395 on: June 26, 2018, 12:14:53 PM »
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I don't like the people at the top but you won't see me sympathizing too much with the people who can't muster up the will power to not upgrade their toys yearly without going into debt. We don't all need to live off the grid but just lol at people who can't dial back the hedonism for even a second.

And just now it occurs to me what a wonderfully funny paradox it is that people are going into debt to keep up appearances at the same time people are becoming more disconnected. I wonder how many goons won't talk to their neighbors but really care what other people think about their gizmos and kitchen appliances.
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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #396 on: June 26, 2018, 07:37:19 PM »
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...but really care what other people think about their gizmos and kitchen appliances.

But if I don't have Google Home connected to my stainless steel appliances, redditors will laugh at me!
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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #397 on: June 27, 2018, 11:37:58 AM »
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"Most of your shit is retarded, but I'd like to comment on this.

My grandfather lived out in a tiny village on the coast, had his fishing boat and rifle and vegetable garden and woodstove and had no mortgage because he built his house himself on a piece of land his father owned. He had no electricity until the late 1960s and relied on a battery operated radio in the living room to get his information. If someone wanted him to work under unreasonable terms he could tell them to go fly the fuck and get by until something more reasonable came by.

Most people today have a mortgage or rent. All their food comes from a grocery store. They are connected to a centralized gird for power, information and home heating. If someone wants them to work under unreasonable conditions they can maybe hold out a month, two tops before their life is totally fucked.

You want to go live in a small house on land you own today with no mortgage and a woodstove and a big vegetable garden you're a weirdo and get turned into a social pariah, and no one wants to date you or hang out with you.

Corporate and government entities have successfully convinced us that there is no alternative to our current way of life and anyone who tries anything different is mentally ill. Advertising specifically tells you that you are weak and stupid and doing things yourself is too much hassle. They tell you need to go in debt to the phone company to get a new phone with new doodad every year and people do it. They've successfully snuffed out the flame of individualism with the ability to binge watch TV shows and get Afgan food at three in the morning. We are the ones driving the power imbalance and wealth inequity by behaving like by passive beasts of the pasture and allowing them to farm us for wealth and power. Then we look to the very ones we are giving power to fix it. What possible motivation do the people who have benefited most from the current system have to fix it? All you have to do is walk away and go live in a rural community, but we're so deluded into thinking the cosmopolitan western lifestyle of 2018 is the only option that no one walks away from it, they look down on anyone who does as a retard, and as a result the more independent rural lifestyle is dying. Even in rural areas, people have become opiate addled wards of the state and corporate entities.

I'm not saying you know, we need to give up all modern conveniences and live and die by the laws of nature, but there has to be a happy medium somewhere. It's at the point were people are willingly becoming debt slaves for iPhones and then asking the government to fix it because you need your iPhone to live.

So you say people today don't strike, well of course they don't. They're too afraid to give up their iPhones and nights out. Most people today think it's unfathomable to live without the internet. How fucked up is that? Just 30 years ago society functioned just fine without it, but now it's so indispensable that people actually argue that internet access should be a basic human right? I'm saying that as someone who uses the internet quite a lot. We've become way too reliant on the corporate and government tits and it's turned us all into fat lazy babies."

I think this is a well reasoned post, the more rules you have in society the less people think for themselves,  and I agree people need to take personal responsibility over their lives.

The problem in socialist countries like The Netherlands and Belgium is that people get so conditioned by a high tax socials state taking care of them from the cradle to the grave, that a sudden shift away from that conditioning is like putting generations of sheltered animals in the wild all of a sudden, that is not going to end well.

It should at least be accompanied with lower taxes so that almost 50% of your paycheck isn't gone before you get it each month so it allows for some room for savings.

My problem is insane rising taxes, rising state debt, immense cutbacks on gov services for decades, and unelectable officials calling all the major shot concerning money and people (monetary, immigration) in an undemocratic EU.

We are beginning to see that you need a certain type of demographics and level of homogeneity for socialism to work.

My point about an ethnically diverse workforce was more about destroying the concept of the blue collar worker, a well respected worker, now viewed as a hurdle to overcome.

Older guys at ASML (chip-machine maker here) notice that the foreign workers do not participate in rallies, meetings ,strikes, they speak of a new culture on the work-floor because of this where it is every man for himself.

I bring that into connection with the EU because the EU allows large corporations to lobby pro immigration, while giving employees 0 influence on the creation of policy.

The biggest hurdle for large corporations being salary, a diverse workforce costs the employer less, because the new workforce is more tame, docile, won't stand up for its rights, if even aware of said rights.

So in a way the EU is monetizing on the direct results of differences in race while noticing differences in race is made a bannable offense for us.

They say we are one, but profit from diversity.

We have Euro's complaining about Americanization, and Americans complaining about Europanization, both have a point because we are globalizing. 

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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #398 on: June 27, 2018, 11:56:06 AM »
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We have Euro's complaining about Americanization, and Americans complaining about Europanization, both have a point because we are globalizing.

No, us Americans have nothing to gain from Europanization. We can get along just fine as long as the increase in materials cost is met with extreme stubbornness in regards to the value of US dollars + decrease in taxes.

I have never met or worked with a global equity firm that's ever wanted anything but complete detachment from their European counterparts.

Trump's trade war will speak for this. The market was due for a correction, but here we are still chugging along in a massive economic boom with record growth.
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Re: Why don't we have an EU thread
« Reply #399 on: June 27, 2018, 03:39:40 PM »
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The problem in socialist countries like The Netherlands and Belgium is that people get so conditioned by a high tax socials state taking care of them from the cradle to the grave, that a sudden shift away from that conditioning is like putting generations of sheltered animals in the wild all of a sudden, that is not going to end well.



This is a fair point. I'm originally from an extremely isolated town so I'm just a generation or two removed from people who had to learn to be self-sufficient or die. I do not know what it is to live in a country where people have been dependent on the state to the degree they are in Europe for generations. Like, I'm a nerdy guy, but I grew up in a society where you cut wood for your allowance and everyone learned to fish and use guns and tools and ride ATVs when they are children. It's dying though man. There are less than 70 people left back home and I don't think any of them are under 60, and the only store closed 20 years ago. Young people don't want to live in an isolated town with a long dirt road, no municipal government and only satellite internet. I worry that way of life will be totally dead in 30 or 40 years time and then there's no going back, and all we will have left is this which someone posted in another thread:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzA_kBOMIj0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzA_kBOMIj0</a>

I read about the exact same problem everywhere from West Virginia to Japan. Young people leaving rural areas to live in the cities and the rural areas are rapidly dying off.
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