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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #75 on: December 17, 2017, 10:23:29 AM »
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As with everything liberals do, it's rooted in insecurity.

Libs are pro abortion not because of some fetishization of women's rights but because they want to be able to ensure freedom from responsibility of raising a child.

Libs are pro drugs not becasue of prisons loaded with "non violent felons" and "miracle plant that cures all diseases," they want to get fucked up and do it for cheap

Libs are pro net neutrality not for all these retarded reasons, but out of fear that they will crack down on their lifestyle of stealing content that they will never, ever mention that they do. The root of it is cracking down on piracy of any kind or the ability to monitor those who steal content.

Thisi s the same shit as all those retards who argue about "privacy" on the internet and targeted advertising, they are afraid that they will be called out for all the degenerate and illegal porn they collect.

Did anyone get a variation that extortion spam recently where someone claims to have recorded a view of the receiver watching porn and says they'll release it to the viewer's hacked social media within 24 hours unless they get $300 of bitcoins? If you look up in one of those bitcoin trackers you'll see hundreds of thousands of people actually paid the ransom. Now I have no fucking clue how bitcoin works but apparently all these tech savy people legitimately thought the spam was real and paid the ransom, because they most likely do watch degenerate or illegal pornography. These are the people who are scared about net neturality repeal

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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #76 on: December 17, 2017, 10:27:21 AM »
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This is retarded. netflix isn't an ISP. fuck we get complaints about the pricing of our interior design services like this ALL THE TIME from idiots comparing us to lowes/home depot. there's a term for this argument the owner uses but i can't recall it
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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #77 on: December 17, 2017, 10:40:04 AM »
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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #78 on: December 17, 2017, 02:09:39 PM »
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Rocket - those tweets you posted lay out the arguments for the Open Internet/Bright Lines.

The regulations that just got overturned deal with more than that. That's why this Net Neutrality stuff is a clusterfuck of misinformation. There's three or four different important things being discussed and they're all getting called "net neutrality".

I've read up on some of this stuff but it's slow going.

Forcing small ISPs to register as Title II Common Carrier entities mostly is a massive burden on them that keeps them out of markets dominated by major telcos and ISPs. Ditching that requirement should be a net benefit for commerce.

Buying bandwidth to become an ISP in the first place is a bureaucratic nightmare. There's so many weird ins and outs to how telecommunication businesses are regulated in the united states you pretty much need a full time lawyer and regulatory expert on your staff to navigate it all. There's further complications with when a smaller ISP wants to piggyback on lines laid out by one of the incumbent telecoms.

Wireless ISPs have an easier time getting started, or they did about 15 years ago when the spectrum wasn't torn to shit by unlicensed trash routers and things. Most of the country is rural or not well-served as far as high speed internet goes so these WISPs are an important way to get internet out to rural America (everywhere that isn't the coasts).







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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #79 on: December 17, 2017, 02:12:46 PM »
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Honestly the whole thing is retarded because 10 years ago both liberals and libertarians supported net neutrality (the concept) because it is a pro-capitalism, pro-startup concept. It was about as un-controversial as it could get, basically the whole internet agreed that big ISPs were, generally, assholes that couldn't be trusted and had to get smacked down by the feds when they acted in ways counter to a neutral internet.

Then Obama passes a thing that (attempts) to make it official government policy and all of a sudden it becomes a hyper-politicized issue. The amount of people who don't understand the issue at all and just say "Oh well it's an Obama thing that tech companies support too, I'm against it!" tells you all you need to know about how pants-on-head retarded discussion has become.

edit: ^^ I agree that stripping title II and re-imposing Open Internet/Bright Lines as policy would have been a win-win but it seems that due to the politicization of this issue and the relative stupidity of people on all sides I guess we now just have to strip everything because "Obama supported net neutrality" ergo any policy whatsoever that attempts to enforce a neutral internet is therefore evil.
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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #80 on: December 17, 2017, 02:17:01 PM »
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Here's an argument:

Deep packet inspection is already what AT&T does to their GigaPower customers to serve them personalized ads unless you cough up extra money per month to opt out. It's beatable with a VPN.




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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #81 on: December 17, 2017, 05:28:30 PM »
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Honestly the whole thing is retarded because 10 years ago both liberals and libertarians supported net neutrality (the concept) because it is a pro-capitalism, pro-startup concept. It was about as un-controversial as it could get, basically the whole internet agreed that big ISPs were, generally, assholes that couldn't be trusted and had to get smacked down by the feds when they acted in ways counter to a neutral internet.

Then Obama passes a thing that (attempts) to make it official government policy and all of a sudden it becomes a hyper-politicized issue. The amount of people who don't understand the issue at all and just say "Oh well it's an Obama thing that tech companies support too, I'm against it!" tells you all you need to know about how pants-on-head retarded discussion has become.

edit: ^^ I agree that stripping title II and re-imposing Open Internet/Bright Lines as policy would have been a win-win but it seems that due to the politicization of this issue and the relative stupidity of people on all sides I guess we now just have to strip everything because "Obama supported net neutrality" and ergo any policy whatsoever that attempts to enforce a neutral internet is therefore evil.


The set up with the new legislation is gonna be enforcement of those standards agreed upon in 2005 without the burden of Title II.. so what’s the issue?

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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #82 on: December 17, 2017, 07:42:43 PM »
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What's the burden? What will removing this burden improve?

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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #83 on: December 17, 2017, 08:07:24 PM »
+1
Honestly the whole thing is retarded because 10 years ago both liberals and libertarians supported net neutrality (the concept) because it is a pro-capitalism, pro-startup concept. It was about as un-controversial as it could get, basically the whole internet agreed that big ISPs were, generally, assholes that couldn't be trusted and had to get smacked down by the feds when they acted in ways counter to a neutral internet.

Then Obama passes a thing that (attempts) to make it official government policy and all of a sudden it becomes a hyper-politicized issue. The amount of people who don't understand the issue at all and just say "Oh well it's an Obama thing that tech companies support too, I'm against it!" tells you all you need to know about how pants-on-head retarded discussion has become.

edit: ^^ I agree that stripping title II and re-imposing Open Internet/Bright Lines as policy would have been a win-win but it seems that due to the politicization of this issue and the relative stupidity of people on all sides I guess we now just have to strip everything because "Obama supported net neutrality" and ergo any policy whatsoever that attempts to enforce a neutral internet is therefore evil.


The set up with the new legislation is gonna be enforcement of those standards agreed upon in 2005 without the burden of Title II.. so what’s the issue?
I haven't read the legislation itself but the commitment to "not block or throttle legal content" I presume means "if you have paid for an all-inclusive internet plan." As I said I'm happy to be proven wrong but my expectation is that very soon we will have lower cost internet plans that have throttling and blocking built in *as part of the commitment by the ISP to the consumer of the plan* which would not violate the FTCs commitment, and will be embraced as "the free market doing what it does well." The result will be that competitors to companies who are included in these plans will have an uphill battle to penetrate market share, since they rely upon network effects and will have many people that are off the grid because they are not on an "all inclusive" plan.

Basically, it boils down to a very specific scenario that is a litmus test: if Facebook were to create a US ISP that was similar to Internet.org (which they run overseas, and is evil in my view) that allowed free access to Facebook properties, but blocked the rest of the Internet, would the FTC intervene under the new regime? I suspect not, because consumers had no expectation of neutral service.
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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #84 on: December 17, 2017, 08:48:36 PM »
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https://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2017/db1122/DOC-347927A1.pdf

sec. 117
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    Restoring FTC [Federal Trade Commission] jurisdiction over ISPs will enable the FTC to apply its extensive privacy and data security expertise to provide the uniform online privacy protections that consumers expect and deserve.651


Pg. 83

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        Many of the largest ISPs (Comcast, AT&T, Verizon, Cox, Frontier, etc.) have committed in this proceeding not to block or throttle legal content.507 These commitments can be enforced by the FTC under Section 5, protecting consumers without imposing public-utility regulation on ISPs.508


p. 82
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    The FTC’s unfair-and-deceptive-practices authority “prohibits companies from selling consumers one product or service but providing them something different,” which makes voluntary commitments enforceable.502 The FTC also requires the “disclos[ur]e [of] material information if not disclosing it would mislead the consumer,” so if an ISP “failed to disclose blocking, throttling, or other practices that would matter to a reasonable consumer, the FTC’s deception authority would apply.”503

Sec 144, p.85
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        Section 1 of the Sherman Act bars contracts, combinations, or conspiracies in restraint of trade, making anticompetitive arrangements illegal. If ISPs reached agreements to unfairly block, throttle, or discriminate against Internet conduct or applications, these agreements would be per seillegal under the antitrust laws.518


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    If an ISP that also sells video services degrades the speed or quality of competing “Over the Top” video services (such as Netflix),526 that conduct could be challenged as anticompetitive foreclosure.


No prohibition against returning to the previous set-up if this one proves detrimental:
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    176.We also reject AT&T’s assertion that the Commission should conditionally forbear from all Title II regulations as a preventive measure to address the contingency that a future Commission might seek to reinstate the Title II Order.647 Although AT&T explains that “conditional forbearance would provide an extra level of insurance against the contingency that a future, politically motivated Commission might try to reinstate a ‘common carrier’ classification [2015 Net Neutrality Regulations],”648 we see no need to address the complicated question of prophylactic forbearance and find such extraordinary measures [are] unnecessary.

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    Should the hypothetical harms that proponents of Title II imagine eventually come to pass, application of the antitrust laws would address those harms.

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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #85 on: December 18, 2017, 12:55:59 AM »
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As with everything liberals do, it's rooted in insecurity.

Libs are pro abortion not because of some fetishization of women's rights but because they want to be able to ensure freedom from responsibility of raising a child.

Libs are pro drugs not becasue of prisons loaded with "non violent felons" and "miracle plant that cures all diseases," they want to get fucked up and do it for cheap

Libs are pro net neutrality not for all these retarded reasons, but out of fear that they will crack down on their lifestyle of stealing content that they will never, ever mention that they do. The root of it is cracking down on piracy of any kind or the ability to monitor those who steal content.

Thisi s the same shit as all those retards who argue about "privacy" on the internet and targeted advertising, they are afraid that they will be called out for all the degenerate and illegal porn they collect.

Did anyone get a variation that extortion spam recently where someone claims to have recorded a view of the receiver watching porn and says they'll release it to the viewer's hacked social media within 24 hours unless they get $300 of bitcoins? If you look up in one of those bitcoin trackers you'll see hundreds of thousands of people actually paid the ransom. Now I have no fucking clue how bitcoin works but apparently all these tech savy people legitimately thought the spam was real and paid the ransom, because they most likely do watch degenerate or illegal pornography. These are the people who are scared about net neturality repeal


On the other hand we're all posting on a niggerdeath forum, and we'll be the type of folks to pay the heaviest price either way.

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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #86 on: December 18, 2017, 12:42:11 PM »
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I'm not about to hide behind political/legislative argument smoke-and-mirrors, as if I have any remorse what so ever when it comes to pirating movies and TV shows made by pedophiles, GRIDS patients, child abusers and public masturbators, thus LITERALLY STEALING shekels directly from the coin purses of Hollykikes and hollier-than-thou, liberal half-faggots.

Go ahead and pay some beta incel to strap on his wrist braces and type up an angry email with the Comcast logo that'll get sent to some throwaway to be ignored, forever.

In the end, I had no idea! Check my router's DHCP leases. None of those IPs are assigned to any of my computers. Must have been some filthy, gat slingin nigger who got hold of my WiFi password and did all dem downloadin.

Only way I'm gettin hauled off to pokey is if the FCC raids Pay Less to subpoena the kike apologist in charge and sift through 50 pages of niggerdeath shitpostings.
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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #87 on: December 18, 2017, 01:06:35 PM »
+5
yo with all this fearmongering has anyone stopped and asked: will ANY consumer pay for $70 a month facebook only internet

no? they wouldn't?

then it's non issue
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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #88 on: December 18, 2017, 06:00:06 PM »
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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #89 on: December 18, 2017, 06:07:21 PM »
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yo with all this fearmongering has anyone stopped and asked: will ANY consumer pay for $70 a month facebook only internet

no? they wouldn't?

then it's non issue

yes it's called a cell phone data plan

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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #90 on: December 23, 2017, 01:51:43 PM »
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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #91 on: December 24, 2017, 01:50:10 AM »
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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #92 on: December 24, 2017, 02:03:57 AM »
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Libs are pro net neutrality not for all these retarded reasons, but out of fear that they will crack down on their lifestyle of stealing content that they will never, ever mention that they do. The root of it is cracking down on piracy of any kind or the ability to monitor those who steal content.

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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #93 on: December 24, 2017, 10:45:01 AM »
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I'm not about to hide behind political/legislative argument smoke-and-mirrors, as if I have any remorse what so ever when it comes to pirating movies and TV shows made by pedophiles, GRIDS patients, child abusers and public masturbators, thus LITERALLY STEALING shekels directly from the coin purses of Hollykikes and hollier-than-thou, liberal half-faggots.

Go ahead and pay some beta incel to strap on his wrist braces and type up an angry email with the Comcast logo that'll get sent to some throwaway to be ignored, forever.

In the end, I had no idea! Check my router's DHCP leases. None of those IPs are assigned to any of my computers. Must have been some filthy, gat slingin nigger who got hold of my WiFi password and did all dem downloadin.

Only way I'm gettin hauled off to pokey is if the FCC raids Pay Less to subpoena the kike apologist in charge and sift through 50 pages of niggerdeath shitpostings.

>Not knowing how to guard your IP

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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #94 on: September 11, 2018, 04:23:17 PM »
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Many shitlibs and cuckservatards alike are still adamant that politically correct governments must impose net neutrality. What exactly does net neutrality means? Jon Gabriel explains; it means bureauweenie control of the Internet.

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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #95 on: September 11, 2018, 05:23:43 PM »
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California state legislatures just passed their own net neutrality bill. It's on Gov Moonbeam's desk now.

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Re: FCC Internet "Net Neutrality" Faggotry
« Reply #96 on: September 11, 2018, 05:51:31 PM »
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Remember when the same Liberals who are currently doing everything in their power to censor the internet said that we needed net neutrality to keep the internet open and free?