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A bunch of Euro and third world countries are about to adopt this pact in a few days.  Here's what it includes:
  • (1) Migration is an international human right
  • (2) Criticism of migration can be criminally prosecuted
  • (3) All migrants are now entitled to the benefits of the Welfare State
  • (4) Chain migration is an international human right
  • (5) Deportation of illegal immigrants is prohibited
  • (6) Mandates further social media censorship of migration criticism
This Compact is non-binding, even on the parties to it.  However, it will inevitably grow to become a peremptory norm of customary international law; so even if you aren't a party to this Compact, progressive countries and international orgs can try enforcing this Compact's principles and obligations against you via the UN/ICJ.

Source: https://www.un.org/pga/72/wp-content/uploads/sites/51/2018/07/migration.pdf

(1) This Global Compact makes migration an international human right.

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We acknowledge our shared responsibilities to one another as Member States of the United Nations to address each other’s needs and concerns over migration, and an overarching obligation to respect, protect and fulfil the human rights of all migrants, regardless of their
migration status, while promoting the security and prosperity of all our communities.

On one hand, this establishes an international obligation to "respect, protect, and fulfil the human rights of all migrants, regardless of their
migration status."  Ergo, migration is an entitlement expressly protected by international law, as well as the domestic law of parties to this Compact, and the status of a person's migration cannot be taken into account. 

On the other hand, migration can be limited on the basis of "promoting the security and prosperity of all our communities."  That is, the security and prosperity of the host nations.  Sounds somewhat reasonable, right?  Unfortunately, this Compact recognizes that migration "is a source of prosperity."  That is, national prosperity cannot be the basis for limiting migration because migration = prosperity.  See Paragraph 8, part of the Compact's Preamble's Guiding Principles:

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Migration has been part of the human experience throughout history, and we recognize that it is a source of prosperity, innovation and sustainable development in our globalized world, and that these positive impacts can be optimized by improving migration governance.

How about national security as a basis for limiting migration? Nope!  "[E]nsuring security for States" means "facilitating safe and regular cross-border movements of people." 

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We commit to manage our national borders in a coordinated manner, promoting bilateral and regional cooperation, ensuring security for States, communities and migrants, and facilitating safe and regular cross-border movements of people while preventing irregular migration. We further commit to implement border management policies that respect national sovereignty, the rule of law, obligations under international law, human rights of all migrants, regardless of their migration status, and are non-discriminatory, gender-responsive and child-sensitive.


This objective mentions "while preventing irregular migration" and "respecting national security," but this is pretty clearly deceitful.  Based off the protections for irregular migrants required from host nations, this Compact is ensuring the expansion of illegal immigration.  The UN may be using "irregular migration" in this context to specifically target non-voluntary trafficking/smuggling of persons rather than illegal immigration. 

Similarly, this Compact massively reduces national sovereignty by imposing international requirements on migration, border control, welfare policy, and citizenship.

(2) Criticism of migration can be criminally prosecuted

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We commit to eliminate all forms of discrimination, condemn and counter expressions, acts and manifestations of racism, racial discrimination, violence, xenophobia and related intolerance against all migrants in conformity with international human rights law.

To this extent, parties to this Compact will:

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Enact, implement or maintain legislation that penalizes hate crimes and aggravated hate crimes targeting migrants, and train law enforcement and other public officials to identify, prevent and respond to such crimes and other acts of violence that target migrants, as well as to provide medical, legal and psychosocial assistance for victims.

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Establish mechanisms to prevent, detect and respond to racial, ethnic and religious profiling of migrants by public authorities, as well as systematic instances of intolerance, xenophobia, racism and all other multiple and intersecting forms of discrimination in partnership with National Human Rights Institutions, including by tracking and publishing trends analyses, and ensuring access to effective complaint and redress mechanisms

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Human rights: The Global Compact is based on international human rights law and upholds the principles of non-regression and non-discrimination. By implementing the Global Compact, we ensure effective respect, protection and fulfilment of the human rights of all migrants, regardless of their migration status, across all stages of the migration cycle. We also reaffirm the commitment to eliminate all forms of discrimination, including racism, xenophobia and intolerance against migrants and their families.

Based off the preceding quote (specifically, "We also reaffirm the commitment to eliminate all forms of . . . intolerance against migrants"), it should be readily apparent that anti-migration expression will be, effectively, illegal.

That is, if I live in a country that is a party to the Compact and I share on social media this video:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4XhLiiu0is" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4XhLiiu0is</a> 

As an example of alleged refugees being opportunistic, economic migrants; then, that would likely constitute "intolerance against migrants and their families" regardless of whether it is intended as a specific example or a generalization.   Naturally, intolerance = discrimination = a hate crime = my future prosecution.

(3) All migrants are now entitled to the benefits of the Welfare State

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We commit to ensure that all migrants, regardless of their migration status, can exercise their human rights through safe access to basic services. We further commit to strengthen migrant-inclusive service delivery systems, notwithstanding that nationals and regular migrants may be entitled to more comprehensive service provision, while ensuring that any differential treatment must be based on law, proportionate, pursue a legitimate aim, in accordance with international human rights law.

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Establish and strengthen holistic and easily accessible service points at local level, that are migrant inclusive, offer relevant information on basic services in a gender- and disability-responsive as well as child-sensitive manner, and facilitate safe access thereto

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Incorporate the health needs of migrants in national and local health care policies and plans, such as by strengthening capacities for service provision, facilitating affordable and non-discriminatory access, reducing communication barriers, and training health care providers on culturally-sensitive service delivery, in order to promote physical and mental health of migrants and communities overall

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Provide inclusive and equitable quality education to migrant children and youth, as well as facilitate access to lifelong learning opportunities , including by strengthening the capacities of education systems and by facilitating non-discriminatory access to early childhood development, formal schooling, non-formal education programmes for children for whom the formal system is inaccessible, on-the-job and vocational training, technical education, and language training, as well as by fostering partnerships with all stakeholders that can support this endeavour

This equally extends to illegal and undocumented immigrants, referred to in this Compact as "irregular migrants:"

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Ensure that cooperation between service providers and immigration authorities does not exacerbate vulnerabilities of irregular migrants by compromising their safe access to basic services or unlawfully infringing upon the human rights to privacy, liberty and security of person at places of basic service delivery.

(4) Chain migration is an international human right

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We commit to adapt options and pathways for regular migration in a manner that . . . upholds the right to family life

So, what is this right to family life?

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Facilitate access to procedures for family reunification for migrants at all skills levels through appropriate measures that promote the realization of the right to family life and the best interests of the child, including by reviewing and revising applicable requirements, such as on income, language proficiency, length of stay, work authorization, and access to social security and services

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Develop national short, medium and long term policy goals regarding the inclusion of migrants in societies, including on labour market integration, family reunification, education, non-discrimination and health

(5) Deportation of illegal immigrants is prohibited

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We commit to respond to the needs of migrants who face situations of vulnerability, which may arise from the circumstances in which they travel or the conditions they face in countries of origin, transit and destination, by assisting them and protecting their human rights, in accordance with our obligations under international law.

That is,

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Apply measures that address the particular vulnerabilities of women, men, girls and boys, regardless of their migration status, that have become or are at risk of becoming victims of trafficking in persons and other forms of exploitation by facilitating access to justice and safe reporting without fear of detention, deportation or penalty, focusing on prevention, identification, appropriate protection and assistance, and addressing specific forms of abuse and exploitation

Trafficking and Smuggling are virtually synonymous:

Quote
while recognizing that smuggled migrants might also become victims of trafficking in persons, therefore requiring appropriate protection and assistance

You are a "victim" of trafficking or smuggling if you pay to be illegally brought into the US.  In such cases, host nations must:

Quote
Provide migrants that have become victims of trafficking in persons with protection and assistance, such as measures for physical, psychological and social recovery, as well as measures that permit them to remain in the country of destination, temporarily or permanently

To this extent, a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants is expressly mandated:

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Build on existing practices to facilitate access for migrants in an irregular status to an individual assessment that may lead to regular status, on a case by case basis and with clear and transparent criteria, especially in cases where children, youth and families are involved, as an option to reduce vulnerabilities, as well as for States to ascertain better knowledge of the resident population

(6) Mandates further social media censorship of migration criticism

This stems from eliminating discrimination and follows in the steps of the EU. 

Quote
We commit to eliminate all forms of discrimination, condemn and counter expressions, acts and manifestations of racism, racial discrimination, violence, xenophobia and related intolerance against all migrants in conformity with international human rights law. We further commit to promote an open and evidence-based public discourse on migration and migrants in partnership with all parts of society, that generates a more realistic, humane and constructive perception in this regard. We also commit to protect freedom of expression in accordance with international law, recognizing that an open and free debate contributes to a comprehensive understanding of all aspects of migration.

To this end, parties to the Compact agree to a "Whole-of-Society Approach"

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Whole-of-society approach: The Global Compact promotes broad multi-stakeholder partnerships to address migration in all its dimensions by including migrants, diasporas, local communities, civil society, academia, the private sector, parliamentarians, trade unions, National Human Rights Institutions, the media and other relevant stakeholders in migration governance.

Meaning, the media's reporting will be controlled through either self-censorship or cutting of public funding:

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Promote independent, objective and quality reporting of media outlets, including internet-based information, including by sensitizing and educating media professionals on migration-related issues and terminology, investing in ethical reporting standards and advertising, and stopping allocation of public funding or material support to media outlets that systematically promote intolerance, xenophobia, racism and other forms of discrimination towards migrants, in full respect for the freedom of the media


The UN's deceitful stance is blatantly obvious in the above quote given its message compared to its last phrase ("in full respect for the freedom of the media.") They are clearly unconcerned with freedom of the media.


That's all that I decided to pull from this bat-shit insane treaty. The US pulled out of this Compact a year ago; and over the last several weeks, Western countries have been abandoning ship.  This list of countries that have pulled out currently includes: the USA, Australia, Austria, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Israel, Poland, Slovakia and Switzerland. 

Also,

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The Belgian coalition government suffered a severe setback Monday after its biggest member party said it would oppose the country’s participation in the pact. In neighboring Germany, Chancellor Angela Merkel’s successors as party leader have also clashed over the pact as they head into a key vote on the conservative party’s future this weekend.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/12/04/why-so-many-nations-are-suddenly-following-trump-out-un-migration-pact/?utm_term=.7b24bfba2147

Meanwhile, the EU's migration commissioner is blatantly lying about the substantive implications of the Compact

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The European Union’s migration commissioner is calling on member countries that have turned against a U.N.-backed migration pact to reconsider their opposition.

EU Migration Commissioner Dimitris Avramopoulos was quoted Monday as telling German daily Die Welt that he doesn’t understand opposition to the pact, which he said forces nothing on anyone. He urged countries rejecting the accord to rethink their opposition in the coming days and join up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/eu-migration-chief-urges-opponents-of-un-pact-to-reconsider/2018/12/03/6b4d6c80-f6d3-11e8-8642-c9718a256cbd_story.html?utm_term=.71f324b83136

Lastly, there's a pretty amusing irony to this Compact.  Its formal name is the "Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration" and it is naturally designed to promote as much, but the Compact's Guiding Principles recognize that "[t]he majority of migrants around the world today travel, live and work in a safe, orderly and regular manner."

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If the UN wants these refugees so bad, they can rehouse them near where the UN officials live and they can feel free to give up 75% of their paycheck to help pay for their living expenses.


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So the Thought Police's tactic isn't imprisonment it's flooding your country with non-contributors until the country itself falls apart.  :geithner:

You can't have bad thoughts about keeping illegal immigrants out if your country doesn't function  :smug:
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And guess what, the whole thing was written up by a kikess and is getting pushed by the countries that want their people to emigrate away (and send back welfare bux).
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It's purestrain globohomo: unchecked immigration from the third world and draconian "hate speech" laws so the plebs will be forced into silence as it happens.

In a perfect world, the authors of this compact would be strung up to throngs of cheering crowds...in Minecraft

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Thank God the US, Hungary, Italy, the Czech Republic, and Australia to name a few aren't going to sign it.

Btw, everyone should check out the UN building if they go to New York.  I myself made a mockery of the whole joint by sneaking weed in (And got high in the bathroom) and wearing my MAGA hat.


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Re: Intergovernmental Conference on the Global Compact for Migration, 10-11 Dec
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At this point, are they pushing for the masses to revolt against the aristocracy and established bureaucracy, again? What's their end game here with this shit?

Thank God the US, Hungary, Italy, the Czech Republic, and Australia to name a few aren't going to sign it.

Btw, everyone should check out the UN building if they go to New York.  I myself made a mockery of the whole joint by sneaking weed in (And got high in the bathroom) and wearing my MAGA hat.

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Re: Intergovernmental Conference on the Global Compact for Migration, 10-11 Dec
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Thank God the US, Hungary, Italy, the Czech Republic, and Australia to name a few aren't going to sign it.

Neither, of course, is Israel, which will come as a great shock, I'm sure.

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Re: Intergovernmental Conference on the Global Compact for Migration, 10-11 Dec
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2018, 12:43:07 AM »
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A bunch of Euro and third world countries are about to adopt this pact in a few days.  Here's what it includes:
  • (1) Migration is an international human right
  • (2) Criticism of migration can be criminally prosecuted
  • (3) All migrants are now entitled to the benefits of the Welfare State
  • (4) Chain migration is an international human right
  • (5) Deportation of illegal immigrants is prohibited
  • (6) Mandates further social media censorship of migration criticism
This Compact is non-binding, even on the parties to it.  However, it will inevitably grow to become a peremptory norm of customary international law; so even if you aren't a party to this Compact, progressive countries and international orgs can try enforcing this Compact's principles and obligations against you via the UN/ICJ.

Source: https://www.un.org/pga/72/wp-content/uploads/sites/51/2018/07/migration.pdf

(1) This Global Compact makes migration an international human right.

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We acknowledge our shared responsibilities to one another as Member States of the United Nations to address each other’s needs and concerns over migration, and an overarching obligation to respect, protect and fulfil the human rights of all migrants, regardless of their
migration status, while promoting the security and prosperity of all our communities.

On one hand, this establishes an international obligation to "respect, protect, and fulfil the human rights of all migrants, regardless of their
migration status."  Ergo, migration is an entitlement expressly protected by international law, as well as the domestic law of parties to this Compact, and the status of a person's migration cannot be taken into account. 

On the other hand, migration can be limited on the basis of "promoting the security and prosperity of all our communities."  That is, the security and prosperity of the host nations.  Sounds somewhat reasonable, right?  Unfortunately, this Compact recognizes that migration "is a source of prosperity."  That is, national prosperity cannot be the basis for limiting migration because migration = prosperity.  See Paragraph 8, part of the Compact's Preamble's Guiding Principles:

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Migration has been part of the human experience throughout history, and we recognize that it is a source of prosperity, innovation and sustainable development in our globalized world, and that these positive impacts can be optimized by improving migration governance.

How about national security as a basis for limiting migration? Nope!  "[E]nsuring security for States" means "facilitating safe and regular cross-border movements of people." 

Quote
We commit to manage our national borders in a coordinated manner, promoting bilateral and regional cooperation, ensuring security for States, communities and migrants, and facilitating safe and regular cross-border movements of people while preventing irregular migration. We further commit to implement border management policies that respect national sovereignty, the rule of law, obligations under international law, human rights of all migrants, regardless of their migration status, and are non-discriminatory, gender-responsive and child-sensitive.


This objective mentions "while preventing irregular migration" and "respecting national security," but this is pretty clearly deceitful.  Based off the protections for irregular migrants required from host nations, this Compact is ensuring the expansion of illegal immigration.  The UN may be using "irregular migration" in this context to specifically target non-voluntary trafficking/smuggling of persons rather than illegal immigration. 

Similarly, this Compact massively reduces national sovereignty by imposing international requirements on migration, border control, welfare policy, and citizenship.

(2) Criticism of migration can be criminally prosecuted

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We commit to eliminate all forms of discrimination, condemn and counter expressions, acts and manifestations of racism, racial discrimination, violence, xenophobia and related intolerance against all migrants in conformity with international human rights law.

To this extent, parties to this Compact will:

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Enact, implement or maintain legislation that penalizes hate crimes and aggravated hate crimes targeting migrants, and train law enforcement and other public officials to identify, prevent and respond to such crimes and other acts of violence that target migrants, as well as to provide medical, legal and psychosocial assistance for victims.

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Establish mechanisms to prevent, detect and respond to racial, ethnic and religious profiling of migrants by public authorities, as well as systematic instances of intolerance, xenophobia, racism and all other multiple and intersecting forms of discrimination in partnership with National Human Rights Institutions, including by tracking and publishing trends analyses, and ensuring access to effective complaint and redress mechanisms

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Human rights: The Global Compact is based on international human rights law and upholds the principles of non-regression and non-discrimination. By implementing the Global Compact, we ensure effective respect, protection and fulfilment of the human rights of all migrants, regardless of their migration status, across all stages of the migration cycle. We also reaffirm the commitment to eliminate all forms of discrimination, including racism, xenophobia and intolerance against migrants and their families.

Based off the preceding quote (specifically, "We also reaffirm the commitment to eliminate all forms of . . . intolerance against migrants"), it should be readily apparent that anti-migration expression will be, effectively, illegal.

That is, if I live in a country that is a party to the Compact and I share on social media this video:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4XhLiiu0is" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4XhLiiu0is</a> 

As an example of alleged refugees being opportunistic, economic migrants; then, that would likely constitute "intolerance against migrants and their families" regardless of whether it is intended as a specific example or a generalization.   Naturally, intolerance = discrimination = a hate crime = my future prosecution.

(3) All migrants are now entitled to the benefits of the Welfare State

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We commit to ensure that all migrants, regardless of their migration status, can exercise their human rights through safe access to basic services. We further commit to strengthen migrant-inclusive service delivery systems, notwithstanding that nationals and regular migrants may be entitled to more comprehensive service provision, while ensuring that any differential treatment must be based on law, proportionate, pursue a legitimate aim, in accordance with international human rights law.

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Establish and strengthen holistic and easily accessible service points at local level, that are migrant inclusive, offer relevant information on basic services in a gender- and disability-responsive as well as child-sensitive manner, and facilitate safe access thereto

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Incorporate the health needs of migrants in national and local health care policies and plans, such as by strengthening capacities for service provision, facilitating affordable and non-discriminatory access, reducing communication barriers, and training health care providers on culturally-sensitive service delivery, in order to promote physical and mental health of migrants and communities overall

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Provide inclusive and equitable quality education to migrant children and youth, as well as facilitate access to lifelong learning opportunities , including by strengthening the capacities of education systems and by facilitating non-discriminatory access to early childhood development, formal schooling, non-formal education programmes for children for whom the formal system is inaccessible, on-the-job and vocational training, technical education, and language training, as well as by fostering partnerships with all stakeholders that can support this endeavour

This equally extends to illegal and undocumented immigrants, referred to in this Compact as "irregular migrants:"

Quote
Ensure that cooperation between service providers and immigration authorities does not exacerbate vulnerabilities of irregular migrants by compromising their safe access to basic services or unlawfully infringing upon the human rights to privacy, liberty and security of person at places of basic service delivery.

(4) Chain migration is an international human right

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We commit to adapt options and pathways for regular migration in a manner that . . . upholds the right to family life

So, what is this right to family life?

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Facilitate access to procedures for family reunification for migrants at all skills levels through appropriate measures that promote the realization of the right to family life and the best interests of the child, including by reviewing and revising applicable requirements, such as on income, language proficiency, length of stay, work authorization, and access to social security and services

Quote
Develop national short, medium and long term policy goals regarding the inclusion of migrants in societies, including on labour market integration, family reunification, education, non-discrimination and health

(5) Deportation of illegal immigrants is prohibited

Quote
We commit to respond to the needs of migrants who face situations of vulnerability, which may arise from the circumstances in which they travel or the conditions they face in countries of origin, transit and destination, by assisting them and protecting their human rights, in accordance with our obligations under international law.

That is,

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Apply measures that address the particular vulnerabilities of women, men, girls and boys, regardless of their migration status, that have become or are at risk of becoming victims of trafficking in persons and other forms of exploitation by facilitating access to justice and safe reporting without fear of detention, deportation or penalty, focusing on prevention, identification, appropriate protection and assistance, and addressing specific forms of abuse and exploitation

Trafficking and Smuggling are virtually synonymous:

Quote
while recognizing that smuggled migrants might also become victims of trafficking in persons, therefore requiring appropriate protection and assistance

You are a "victim" of trafficking or smuggling if you pay to be illegally brought into the US.  In such cases, host nations must:

Quote
Provide migrants that have become victims of trafficking in persons with protection and assistance, such as measures for physical, psychological and social recovery, as well as measures that permit them to remain in the country of destination, temporarily or permanently

To this extent, a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants is expressly mandated:

Quote
Build on existing practices to facilitate access for migrants in an irregular status to an individual assessment that may lead to regular status, on a case by case basis and with clear and transparent criteria, especially in cases where children, youth and families are involved, as an option to reduce vulnerabilities, as well as for States to ascertain better knowledge of the resident population

(6) Mandates further social media censorship of migration criticism

This stems from eliminating discrimination and follows in the steps of the EU. 

Quote
We commit to eliminate all forms of discrimination, condemn and counter expressions, acts and manifestations of racism, racial discrimination, violence, xenophobia and related intolerance against all migrants in conformity with international human rights law. We further commit to promote an open and evidence-based public discourse on migration and migrants in partnership with all parts of society, that generates a more realistic, humane and constructive perception in this regard. We also commit to protect freedom of expression in accordance with international law, recognizing that an open and free debate contributes to a comprehensive understanding of all aspects of migration.

To this end, parties to the Compact agree to a "Whole-of-Society Approach"

Quote
Whole-of-society approach: The Global Compact promotes broad multi-stakeholder partnerships to address migration in all its dimensions by including migrants, diasporas, local communities, civil society, academia, the private sector, parliamentarians, trade unions, National Human Rights Institutions, the media and other relevant stakeholders in migration governance.

Meaning, the media's reporting will be controlled through either self-censorship or cutting of public funding:

Quote
Promote independent, objective and quality reporting of media outlets, including internet-based information, including by sensitizing and educating media professionals on migration-related issues and terminology, investing in ethical reporting standards and advertising, and stopping allocation of public funding or material support to media outlets that systematically promote intolerance, xenophobia, racism and other forms of discrimination towards migrants, in full respect for the freedom of the media


The UN's deceitful stance is blatantly obvious in the above quote given its message compared to its last phrase ("in full respect for the freedom of the media.") They are clearly unconcerned with freedom of the media.


That's all that I decided to pull from this bat-shit insane treaty. The US pulled out of this Compact a year ago; and over the last several weeks, Western countries have been abandoning ship.  This list of countries that have pulled out currently includes: the USA, Australia, Austria, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Israel, Poland, Slovakia and Switzerland. 

Also,

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The Belgian coalition government suffered a severe setback Monday after its biggest member party said it would oppose the country’s participation in the pact. In neighboring Germany, Chancellor Angela Merkel’s successors as party leader have also clashed over the pact as they head into a key vote on the conservative party’s future this weekend.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/12/04/why-so-many-nations-are-suddenly-following-trump-out-un-migration-pact/?utm_term=.7b24bfba2147

Meanwhile, the EU's migration commissioner is blatantly lying about the substantive implications of the Compact

Quote
The European Union’s migration commissioner is calling on member countries that have turned against a U.N.-backed migration pact to reconsider their opposition.

EU Migration Commissioner Dimitris Avramopoulos was quoted Monday as telling German daily Die Welt that he doesn’t understand opposition to the pact, which he said forces nothing on anyone. He urged countries rejecting the accord to rethink their opposition in the coming days and join up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/eu-migration-chief-urges-opponents-of-un-pact-to-reconsider/2018/12/03/6b4d6c80-f6d3-11e8-8642-c9718a256cbd_story.html?utm_term=.71f324b83136

Lastly, there's a pretty amusing irony to this Compact.  Its formal name is the "Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration" and it is naturally designed to promote as much, but the Compact's Guiding Principles recognize that "[t]he majority of migrants around the world today travel, live and work in a safe, orderly and regular manner."



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Re: Intergovernmental Conference on the Global Compact for Migration, 10-11 Dec
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2018, 12:50:27 AM »
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Thank God the US, Hungary, Italy, the Czech Republic, and Australia to name a few aren't going to sign it.

Neither, of course, is Israel, which will come as a great shock, I'm sure.

Not to worry, our progressive jewish friends that make up a suspiciously large percent of the media will no doubt be writing articles and making videos lambasting Israel for being a backwards, racist regime just like those other fascist white countries.

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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2018, 12:51:59 AM »
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Re: Intergovernmental Conference on the Global Compact for Migration, 10-11 Dec
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2018, 12:56:56 AM »
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Thank God the US, Hungary, Italy, the Czech Republic, and Australia to name a few aren't going to sign it.

Btw, everyone should check out the UN building if they go to New York.  I myself made a mockery of the whole joint by sneaking weed in (And got high in the bathroom) and wearing my MAGA hat.

You really showed them.

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Re: Intergovernmental Conference on the Global Compact for Migration, 10-11 Dec
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2018, 03:51:10 AM »
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Thanks for making an effort post on this.  I saw how nuts it was after seeing a news article where a Hungarian MEPs had said it seemed like other MEPs didn't do any work because anyone who'd actually read this thing must find it insane.  I tracked down the text and, as you say, some parts sound sensible enough, but others head into utter insanity.  One piece of craziness I add which elaborates on what you say about migrants having welfare entitlements is that the document puts out the idea that welfare entitlements are portable between nations.  Here's the full text of that goal:

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Establish mechanisms for the portability of social security entitlements and earned benefits

38. We commit to assist migrant workers at all skills levels to have access to social protection in countries of destination and profit from the portability of applicable social security entitlements and earned benefits in their countries of origin or when they decide to take up work in another country. To realize this commitment, we will draw from the following actions:
a) Establish or maintain non-discriminatory national social protection systems, including social protection floors for nationals and migrants, in line with the ILO Recommendation 202 on Social Protection Floors
b) Conclude reciprocal bilateral, regional or multilateral social security agreements on the portability of earned benefits for migrant workers at all skills levels, which refer to applicable social protection floors in the respective States, applicable social security entitlements and provisions, such as pensions, healthcare or other earned benefits, or integrate such provisions into other relevant agreements, such as those on long-term and temporary labour migration
c) Integrate provisions on the portability of entitlements and earned benefits into national social security frameworks, designate focal points in countries of origin, transit and destination that facilitate portability requests from migrants, address the difficulties women and older persons can face in accessing social protection, and establish dedicated instruments, such as migrant welfare funds in countries of origin that support migrant workers and their families.

Yeah there are qualifiers in here, but the very notion is utopian nonsense.  The reason why people tolerate welfare to the extent they do is in large part because it's going to people who have close ties to the country and share with me a certain context and way of life.  That this is the case is demonstrated by how much more scorn and alarm is heaped on welfare received by recent migrants as opposed to locals - and as it is in most developed countries now, while migrants can get some benefits, there are many hoops they have to jump through first and often they will never get the full entitlements of a local. 

Perceived excessive welfare going to citizens is itself a perpetual burning fire of ill-sentiment in a population; excessive welfare going to migrants is pouring gasoline on that fire; giving portable entitlements allowing people to claim welfare in whichever country they happen to be in at the time without any more of a requirement is igniting a fusion reaction of resentment burning hotter than the sun.

The idea does give rise to some amusing ideas of waging economic warfare by giving undesirables entitlements which will only practically be enlivened on leaving (not realistic but conceivable), at least.

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Re: Intergovernmental Conference on the Global Compact for Migration, 10-11 Dec
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2018, 03:59:29 AM »
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What the fuckk?
I've only seen that in datasheets and laws.
Not too many other places are like that.
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Re: Intergovernmental Conference on the Global Compact for Migration, 10-11 Dec
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2018, 04:07:24 AM »
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I CUT ALL OF THIS OUT.
I am sorry.
I wanted to give you a +1.
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Re: Intergovernmental Conference on the Global Compact for Migration, 10-11 Dec
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2018, 05:04:43 AM »
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Thanks for making an effort post on this.  I saw how nuts it was after seeing a news article where a Hungarian MEPs had said it seemed like other MEPs didn't do any work because anyone who'd actually read this thing must find it insane.  I tracked down the text and, as you say, some parts sound sensible enough, but others head into utter insanity.  One piece of craziness I add which elaborates on what you say about migrants having welfare entitlements is that the document puts out the idea that welfare entitlements are portable between nations.  Here's the full text of that goal:

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Establish mechanisms for the portability of social security entitlements and earned benefits

38. We commit to assist migrant workers at all skills levels to have access to social protection in countries of destination and profit from the portability of applicable social security entitlements and earned benefits in their countries of origin or when they decide to take up work in another country. To realize this commitment, we will draw from the following actions:
a) Establish or maintain non-discriminatory national social protection systems, including social protection floors for nationals and migrants, in line with the ILO Recommendation 202 on Social Protection Floors
b) Conclude reciprocal bilateral, regional or multilateral social security agreements on the portability of earned benefits for migrant workers at all skills levels, which refer to applicable social protection floors in the respective States, applicable social security entitlements and provisions, such as pensions, healthcare or other earned benefits, or integrate such provisions into other relevant agreements, such as those on long-term and temporary labour migration
c) Integrate provisions on the portability of entitlements and earned benefits into national social security frameworks, designate focal points in countries of origin, transit and destination that facilitate portability requests from migrants, address the difficulties women and older persons can face in accessing social protection, and establish dedicated instruments, such as migrant welfare funds in countries of origin that support migrant workers and their families.

Yeah there are qualifiers in here, but the very notion is utopian nonsense.  The reason why people tolerate welfare to the extent they do is in large part because it's going to people who have close ties to the country and share with me a certain context and way of life.  That this is the case is demonstrated by how much more scorn and alarm is heaped on welfare received by recent migrants as opposed to locals - and as it is in most developed countries now, while migrants can get some benefits, there are many hoops they have to jump through first and often they will never get the full entitlements of a local. 

Perceived excessive welfare going to citizens is itself a perpetual burning fire of ill-sentiment in a population; excessive welfare going to migrants is pouring gasoline on that fire; giving portable entitlements allowing people to claim welfare in whichever country they happen to be in at the time without any more of a requirement is igniting a fusion reaction of resentment burning hotter than the sun.

The idea does give rise to some amusing ideas of waging economic warfare by giving undesirables entitlements which will only practically be enlivened on leaving (not realistic but conceivable), at least.

They tried to push this through in my country despite overwhelming opposition by the public (85% to 15% disapproval rating at the most extreme). The leaders were of course lifelong politicians and civil servants who are looking forward to cushy EU diplomat/official jobs with 10k salaries + expenses per month. They are literally trying to sell their country's independence for comfortable lifelong jobs in the most massive bureaucracy on the planet. The government almost fell thanks to this bullshit and at the moment the talks have stalled. Nobody knows what the fuck is going on. The parliament doesn't want to touch it, the government can't because the conservative party is blocking it, the technocrat president threw a fit and refused to go and sign it in December. So we still don't know for sure what will happen with this big pile of garbage.
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Re: Intergovernmental Conference on the Global Compact for Migration, 10-11 Dec
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2018, 06:53:53 AM »
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I hope there is a war to prevent this.
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Re: Intergovernmental Conference on the Global Compact for Migration, 10-11 Dec
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2018, 08:01:33 AM »
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The leaders were of course lifelong politicians and civil servants who are looking forward to cushy EU diplomat/official jobs with 10k salaries + expenses per month. They are literally trying to sell their country's independence for comfortable lifelong jobs in the most massive bureaucracy on the planet.

This is exactly what's turning Finland to shit as well.

Bring on the guillotines - or, as in our history, firing squads and concentration camps. Seemed to work fine on commies back in 1918.

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Re: Intergovernmental Conference on the Global Compact for Migration, 10-11 Dec
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2018, 02:41:04 PM »
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Just read this. It will take a while, but it's worth it.

http://hipcrime.blogspot.com/2016/01/the-fates-of-nations-biological-theory.html

The full book is excellent if you can find a copy and it strangely predictive...

In short, humans, like other animals have an optimal breeding strategy for their niche
Poor people shit out lots of kids because they are cheap and eat rice and sticks
Rich shit out less, because iPhones are fucking expensive and what kind of parent wouldn't let their child have the latest and greatest?
There is limited 'space' in the rich niche.
Oppression is not of the poor from the rich, but of the rich from the poor as they scramble to compete for 'rich' niche opportunity. Due to the above, the poor will never decrease in number, but only increase. Therefore, it's not the poor who feel pressure from the rich, but the rich who feel pressure from the poor due to more mouths to feed, and a desire to maintain the luxury way of life.


And now I'm bored of writing, go read the lot. This migration stuff doesn't help anyone, it's essentially saying 'everyone must be in poverty', a race to the bottom.


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Re: Intergovernmental Conference on the Global Compact for Migration, 10-11 Dec
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2018, 03:17:00 PM »
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Thanks for making an effort post on this.  I saw how nuts it was after seeing a news article where a Hungarian MEPs had said it seemed like other MEPs didn't do any work because anyone who'd actually read this thing must find it insane.  I tracked down the text and, as you say, some parts sound sensible enough, but others head into utter insanity.  One piece of craziness I add which elaborates on what you say about migrants having welfare entitlements is that the document puts out the idea that welfare entitlements are portable between nations.  Here's the full text of that goal:

Quote
Establish mechanisms for the portability of social security entitlements and earned benefits

38. We commit to assist migrant workers at all skills levels to have access to social protection in countries of destination and profit from the portability of applicable social security entitlements and earned benefits in their countries of origin or when they decide to take up work in another country. To realize this commitment, we will draw from the following actions:
a) Establish or maintain non-discriminatory national social protection systems, including social protection floors for nationals and migrants, in line with the ILO Recommendation 202 on Social Protection Floors
b) Conclude reciprocal bilateral, regional or multilateral social security agreements on the portability of earned benefits for migrant workers at all skills levels, which refer to applicable social protection floors in the respective States, applicable social security entitlements and provisions, such as pensions, healthcare or other earned benefits, or integrate such provisions into other relevant agreements, such as those on long-term and temporary labour migration
c) Integrate provisions on the portability of entitlements and earned benefits into national social security frameworks, designate focal points in countries of origin, transit and destination that facilitate portability requests from migrants, address the difficulties women and older persons can face in accessing social protection, and establish dedicated instruments, such as migrant welfare funds in countries of origin that support migrant workers and their families.

Yeah there are qualifiers in here, but the very notion is utopian nonsense.  The reason why people tolerate welfare to the extent they do is in large part because it's going to people who have close ties to the country and share with me a certain context and way of life.  That this is the case is demonstrated by how much more scorn and alarm is heaped on welfare received by recent migrants as opposed to locals - and as it is in most developed countries now, while migrants can get some benefits, there are many hoops they have to jump through first and often they will never get the full entitlements of a local. 

Perceived excessive welfare going to citizens is itself a perpetual burning fire of ill-sentiment in a population; excessive welfare going to migrants is pouring gasoline on that fire; giving portable entitlements allowing people to claim welfare in whichever country they happen to be in at the time without any more of a requirement is igniting a fusion reaction of resentment burning hotter than the sun.

The idea does give rise to some amusing ideas of waging economic warfare by giving undesirables entitlements which will only practically be enlivened on leaving (not realistic but conceivable), at least.

They tried to push this through in my country despite overwhelming opposition by the public (85% to 15% disapproval rating at the most extreme). The leaders were of course lifelong politicians and civil servants who are looking forward to cushy EU diplomat/official jobs with 10k salaries + expenses per month. They are literally trying to sell their country's independence for comfortable lifelong jobs in the most massive bureaucracy on the planet. The government almost fell thanks to this bullshit and at the moment the talks have stalled. Nobody knows what the fuck is going on. The parliament doesn't want to touch it, the government can't because the conservative party is blocking it, the technocrat president threw a fit and refused to go and sign it in December. So we still don't know for sure what will happen with this big pile of garbage.

This presents 2 two issues to me. 

First, a basic flaw of democracy is unaccountability during the elected officials' term(s).  They are only accountable after the expiration of their term -- if they have something more cushy lined up, then why would they care about re-electability? 

Second, the process for how a treaty comes into force in virtually every nation is this: the executive (or their representative, usually the nation's Ambassador to the UN or Foreign Secretary) signs the treaty, then the nation's legislature passes the treaty (i.e. ratification, accession, etc.), and then the documents are deposited with an international depository.  Globalists have effectively changed this to the point where the mere signature by an executive is sufficient to bind a nation to international obligations, completely eroding basic national sovereignty and the democratic process. 

This became especially prevalent in the US under Obama.  Specifically, the JCPOA (Iran Deal) and the Paris Agreement.  The US Constitution gives the President the exclusive power to negotiate and conclude treaties; however, it also requires that treaties be ratified by 2/3rds of the Senate before they can have any legal force.  To get around this requirement, the Obama White House began making "political commitments," claiming that these commitments did not constitute treaties; ergo, they did not require approval by the US Senate. 

The Paris Agreement was one such political commitment made under the guise of the 1992 United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) because Obama wasn't going to receive Senate approval for a new climate treaty.  In reality, the Paris Agreement is obviously a new treaty obligating the US to international environmental and economic standards while also financially obligating it to make massive, annual monetary payments.

The JCPOA (Iran Deal) was another political commitment, but more confusing because there was no existing framework (such as the Paris Agreement was based off the UNFCCC) and because its own language expressly states it is a treaty.  Rather, the JCPOA is just an international agreement that Obama unilaterally obliged the US to follow.  Congress tried to circumvent Obama's actions through the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act of 2015 by giving itself the right to review any agreement (i.e. even those deemed not treaties) reached with Iran, but failed to block the JCPOA. 

The point of all this being that globalists simply do not care whether a nation has ratified or acceded to an international treaty (thereby giving the nation an international obligation).  If your nation's executive signs the treaty (which has zero legal importance, both domestically and internationally), globalists will enforce the treaty against you as if your nation is legally a party to it. 

On that note, its worth pointing out how much noise has been raised that the Global Compact on Migration is non-binding

Guess what else is non-binding?  The JCPOA and Paris Agreement.  But you probably don't know that because the leftists, international community, and media treat them as if they are. 

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Re: Intergovernmental Conference on the Global Compact for Migration, 10-11 Dec
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2018, 04:05:42 PM »
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 :smalljewrub: : just sign it, goy! it's non-binding.


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